looking at the background associates or any other factors that is most of the subset of health, so anxious and suffering from terrorism, just a 1011 as little surely these late. so i think somebody leave you a tool that east of got the thing you put a going to do it should only be and you would know, suppose interest or something. what if i didn't, i guess the feeling that the stella showed me the way and when libya cease to exist, she just became as like, whole me, lou on the really good enough me that onto for the another. so which millions of illegal might run so close up with the sport as low as the thing is, i don't know if there's a much more monica this. i need to just say to the bill to says that you know, like you realize that's the worst jesus to do them and they so you said good about what pro mama conducting e for answers a vivid in the products. that's that they've given you some of the some, but usually nobody to godaddy but my god, the way the french with an extra list of old saying that this model opposition took

a duffy for there are no, these are equal to draw us to give us a you from ali e the drawing from the your opinions about the condition if you did to you to use 10 that you, those code is they need to see the real reason the, the to still offer the key mean edit for a little bit was just was up at the ethics, the best way to get started from corporate takes name is west louis. it's easy to go school continue and that's sort of the added value that has taken away from definitely been constant as to the knows that i'll just use the samples of the rooms. has nobody to us know, but i'm listening to us and russian. so this union, so when you make it seem it did quite the opposite to a try and said value, what the 2 zip to contribute things to health care and education. and that's the reason why i leave the new book you in the pharmacy who's molly? we need a new model, we screenshots enough or so that will work with them using

a most no uh because of the and this just drops to what we've done. so i haven't looked deep into that. and even just to assist you a month in a certain, the shots of the society sees that the system of relationships with the looks of us to issues that only that the rulers of the country. we have built a new beach and satisfied with, or at least most of my lease is up at the minimum of the i, there's like, but i've got tons of them, is that the system doesn't help to solve the problems of the entire population. substituting. let's get through it so should then we come through loud to those researchers. will just come with an upward. so i don't think there's an intervention which has to go us as they won't do any good to anyone who was particular this stuff. and the thoughts of eco us as for means of forming and for so so now with that sort of sheets in the intrusion of the i wouldn't wish such a scenario around that that the central leasing. sure. did you separate guns? it's going to be devastating for thousands of thousands of people,

the service to levels dental procedures of the, the president of friends, it was ready to talk to the president puts in, but also have multiple posts that double and you some of the present assignment. but it's e, do you think who is going to go to moscow or be sent to them and the, to the brisk summit that for you isn't that i see. i see them do things when special dialogue could have been official rushing me a to him, which you will see the deals with the track of statements of who's going to do lots of relationship over the trash can use it. the drums into this over the phone is interested in video each year in doing something, then how much you, elementary decencies into this over the next article which is requires to convey this interest suggests the issue that you're using diplomatic channels. which of these dates are meeting a conversation or anything else? i'm not sure. so the shifts. so it is open the search to 0 to completion of

what's in those. and when showing readiness to return the russians, it is a pleasure use the less the busiest days to publicly use cause i'm so slow, but we're continuing along the shifting. you might use it the good news about them because they have to stop by and essentially utility category to business or statements. while you, if you're seeing this publicly, really. but then you are a huge link to the audience that is listening. you bring you up with a key stigma loop, a so low stuff over to things. it's unclear what signals they're trying to convey with such state energy as the present the fence, the new on the what you to know to, to have to speak about. this was the presence comprising, the said once again, the 1st name of the process, a new offensive. so what you to, to the speech of assessment excellence can also meet the teacher of the brain. and then from that you said, you know, that, that is ready to continue supplying hello arrange themselves on this because they want us to just get to the safe side 0. but it's not a problem says he's worthy of us. that it was told to russian presidents about the

end of the conflict. it's going to fix that. but i think it's a little bit of fits of issue the goal is so what do you think of such a contradictory your statements or gus? no. so they tell me your thoughts, i've already touched this on this subject to and i think that's the business anybody wants to contribute to finding ways of settling this situation. so most of your solution come up and it's usually done using relevant diplomatic channels will give us an income at the gym. but i get the value of what you would use instead of making a loud loud spaces. and specifically, search vendor is providing less plan. you're going to the long range missiles, is that too expensive and you probably use against the targets and drugs just based with a little bit of knowing what is going on, you know, but the suggestion, like you're now with the of the probably need to remind the international community

about themselves, that's a good listener, but usually it's to demonstrate how they're good. there's no other action for them . so there's a lot of places me this way to spend the log in. you know, i can only be guessing here right here on this, the previous one is to micro and used to be the guarantor, a lease on the advanced agreements. spend a little bit concerned with them. but i'm just about the, the stuff that i'm so busy numbers, the cartridge and despite those means agreements have been impressive. 5 by the un security council. they just needed it. so when some time to go along with the ship, us it, it. so it, it's this the same as it was for a long so it probably wasn't liaison video send it. the reason we have the cat is still on the 1st of the much not, i'm not saying it's not as focused on that. so if somebody needs to get the most

quickly, how would you characterize the kind of level of relationships percent must go in pretoria? the was, it was sent to collections to get upset with us this year at the end of the, for 2 visits for tourism. the rest of the duration 1st time in june. that's you know, just that that's. and the 2nd time was when president drummond also came to russia the picture and the very beneficial and trustful negotiations

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. okay, we've just been there listening there to the russian foreign minister sort a lot for of us. he conducts a question, answer session on date 3. the final day of the at brick summit in johannesburg, just to go through briefly some of the main points over the past 45 minutes or so. when i did at lee into a lot of things. but he did start at by the big news today from this summit that the amount of bricks members is to more than double from its $5.00 to $11.00 starting from the 1st of january next year, siding arabia, ron egypt. if you origin tina the united ar everett's saying that that's a very exciting time ahead and there's going to be so much talked about that going forward as to even more at members this year joining the club the grouping. and

by the way, he did saying that in a funny little moment he said that it's likely to have the same name, people who are talking about what kind of acronyms we might have that might change breaks. but he says at no one from the new countries that want to enter have at sort at to change that. okay, let's just listen back the story going for off. he's just talking again on that. and then i'll recap a little bit more on what's being said of the 2 months that i'd say, you know, the demonstration pseudo to keep up with you where somebody puts it the flu. but the other one happens and the nature of the q, a village that you've done that the, there were attempts to delaying jump a russia for know engineering,

which is the cool video shows up and looks good on the website. and the very quickly even introduce each, the leading, the less than a percentage of special a good majority says that they have no evidence to prove this point. the fact that the restroom for flag just lying in this confusion is primarily points to the fact then the rim's deluxe to this because you lose which you need the people in this country house in niger don't use it. it still does this include some books, didn't give them this evening, so they're every day alive. and you're going to accept the blessing was in the initial is up with the facts of the west country. it was one of the most reliable allies of the united states and use be known to be cetera. so for several weeks you a back case that i put them it has it is a user that a priority to the fire, the,

the west or button depot. sawgrass failed. so they did not know dennis as old, but the, this much sums as far as i said, that as the today, when you still remember means you subordinate to them, you are able to tell you what the cells a did not see much of the sawgrass. and for that, so this across the trace channels, it was the western practice and the cooling, as i've already said, there was a base plan, includes it in colonial era methods or m as in memory of how we joined out sources of provides colonialism. so this is an oregon factor that has to be taken into consideration inside your head, just african leaders and peoples and nations are see him. this is a deep root, you have no idea for them. we need to move to who is who more digit quality interest packaged, have a balance of interest to refrain from imposing anything on anyone. and to me, i'm sure is that wait on that piece and then follow the you're in charge. the way,

let us know in the typical 8, so here in the united patients but is based on the silver quality, your information sort of large and small to you, somebody else to live with as much as well. so, but as groups that used to sit and politically ones that want to make sure it's suitable, that it complies with this vision with some it's symbols with i have to when was establishing to the patients and that will be a chance for this to materialize. i think you just have the rough up there by the russian foreign minister. and as i've seen a few moments ago, he'd be done by expanding on the exciting times that had as bricks. more than doubled its membership from 5 to 11 members. but just a brief, a go through some of the other main points that story. gail a for off made there. not question and answer session in johannesburg, popped up at the un security console. 6 of 8 members he pointed out were

essentially at fault in the us, come on russia. i am indeed all the countries cannot accept that looking for it to reform as has been spoken to by for many months before asking for that to be expedited, saying the west has replaced common sense with a desire to defeat russia in coming about. and also said that to offer a cab because of course, this is the focus today of the breaks talk. and it has been for the last 3 days talking about how offer can, can use it's at resort laden and assets to develop into the power house that it needs to be on the global arena. saying that africa, this saw friend, right to choose its partners is ignored by the west. we also heard some stories there about the the green deal. same. we've seen little at some questions. our

excuse me about the green deal. we've seen little movement unfulfilling pledges made by the west. as soon as western partners do that, russia will, of course, do likewise. and on these are the, at situation they're very troubles situation for the last few weeks. following the, the over through saying that at the russian has not spoken to any representative of the country while in africa remarked of this a health wage and has been engaged in k all since at libya was invaded by nato in 2011. okay, let to offset cross to johannesburg is not indeed is where the 15th annual at brick summit in south africa is not into it's 3rd and final day. the major geo political offenders attracted presidents at prime ministers at dollars a like from all across the globe. and indeed, earlier on thursday,

the big news line, just the point i thought a merge is that the grouping is to more than double its membership. as mentioned nichol waco, our host is there at the brick cove at the bricks, s summit venue shipping. reacting to that with gas and all the other developments start the day. no. the hello are you non and very warm. welcome to all of our viewers from our studio here in johannesburg, south africa. earlier in the day breakfast leaders and politicians from around the world shared this version, their views of the blocks goals and global standing beats leader. congratulating the new members of the block stress, things that international friendship and respect for other countries. interest r, a catalyst for the world stability. the russian president has said that developed

countries act in their own self interest to maintain the status co and the so called roles based international order. let's take a listen to what president put in and other bricks leaders had to say who was left to the country. so the so called golden 1000000000 doing everything in order to preserve the previous uni paula, hold order. they are comfortable with it. in fact, it's the same colonialism in a new package. got golf the representation and voices of the developing countries in global governance should be increased. it's also important to uphold true multilateralism, but it's in reno ident to open a new cooperation agenda between brazil and africa. let's go back to our universal vocation and rebuild our historical ties with the developing countries that prosperity is always full when it is shared on the kids. the principal,

i believe that bricks can work together with others to help ensure progress and reforms, accounts of terrorism, food and health security, energy security and building resilience supply chains. and saw that we have with that to the use to describe friendship operations. and we call that, oh boy, do well born to is a purchase based on the understanding that our success, our prosperity, and what would be demands on this success, prosperity. and the well being of this that breaks group has finally announced it's long awaited expansion plans at the press conference. speculations has surrounded the topic for months as 23 states have applied to the blocks to become full members. south african president, rama pose,

that has publicly revealed the 6 countries that were enjoy the blog full membership starting january next year. let's listen to the list. as of 5 ricks con cheese, we have reached agreement on the guiding principles, standards, criteria and procedures of the bricks, expansion process. we have decided to invite the ident, teen republic. the outer up republic of egypt, the federal democratic republic of if your po, the is law, make republic of theatre on the kingdom of saudi arabia and the united arab emirates to become full members of briggs as the membership will take effect from the 1st of june. now what

a 2020 full russell president told us that the block of remains open to a constituent in this is of course as of the 23 countries. how deficiencies showed interest in joining blocks. and i must also say that the membership is taking place, having taken on the 1st of january 2024. i'm not sure if i'm reading too much into these announcements and the decisions that have been taken by the brakes nations. but what i'm getting caught me off those pensions awful pips last name. and also you must also remember that most, almost all of the old pick mean buzz had initially showed interest in joining the at the, at the, at the course point of applications. and this is goes to show just how powerful and strong the brakes is and how much it will become. you will see the president, literally, the silver no just in points. the most important for all of us,

among which try with single have the issues of the sacrament to the single currency . this is a difficult issue about so we will move forward in solving these problems. the 2nd one concerns the organization of the payment between our countries in economic field. i would like to congratulate on new members who will all be working together next year. i want to assure a colleagues that we will continue to expand the influence of breaks in the well historical times from the moment of nations, the old brig supply solutions, especially if each, as you've also heard the presents that i'm gonna post a thing that's a big nations and i would rate a to chuckle, view phones on a global financial system. and this of course, coming just at the best off season. awesome. and just rub a, he's a speech to the other dates way, who was talking about how the national developments been youth development bank. i had to read the pay to approve some important role as an alternative to either global financial institutions, those financial decisions i would assume and many other people would assume that he

was talking about to be live simply. i may have said he likes to office bang the group as also reach an agreement to also work on the guiding principles. the standards, criteria offer breaks. it will also be more important to take a look at those procedures that those guidelines and standards this we should meet as it now becomes a no longer $85.00 engine, timeliness dash. and as the nation deed is also had a few words to say, many said that we were too much difference so that we can forward your comment, you to the experience step or the less demonstrates the contrary. our diversity strengthens the fight for new international order that was accommodate, already estimate in terms of geography economy and put in politics in the 21st century. this world of transition, the bricks offers as a source of creative solutions for the challenges that we face. the relevance of

the bricks is confirmed by the growing interest of other countries demonstrate to join our group. now that the bricks is going up to 37 percent of the world, u. d, p in terms of purchasing power and 46 percent in terms of the world population. that's why the react to bring it back to it's a pleasure to welcome in studio professor chris landsberg, tier of african diplomacy and foreign policy at the university of johannesburg, who is joining me to discuss all of the amazing thing that has m folded in the past . 2 days and more specifically to the professor. welcome to our tea. thank you very much for asking for help, and thank you for making time to be here. professor,

the much anticipated breaks expansion has finally been announced with the 6 new nations being added to the block. what are your thoughts on the countries admitted and how big of a deal is that for the economy? so so, so that's 1st 5 by saying that by the time the ministers meeting finished, it's clear that there was no agreement, right? so it was escalated to the heads of states. yes. it would have been that as last, the full bricks not to show any expansion. i think the, the of full countries in the me not region, middle east, north africa or egypt and the other 3. they speak for themselves. they come with serious. um, pick a moment and resource co monroe particularly um uh oil i guess and so. so i think they justify it. um and its calculated as to why they

would chose i should also point out a prime minister motive. it made a very important point separately. muscle only into enemies of america because those are the references. correct? because america is just so happened that some of them have the funds as with america. i mean, we don't even have to speak to them. i didn't present them up to us. i don't know all the debate when, but it was very important that at least 2 african countries a joint. i still think there's going to be a backlash against on africa and ask, why wouldn't they more african countries? but to answer your question, shopped, the bricks is now going from 5 to 11. so the bigger than the juice of what i know the lead us say we shouldn't compare. but it's a formidable player and it's of a mobile group of countries that is joy. do you think there would be a consequence for breaks? expanding it's right. i, i just finished typing

a piece for a column for tomorrow. and i actually in the, the last sentences over to the g 7. and, and what for me stood out to out these the 3 days, even since president she arrived for the summer is the, the, the, len, which the bricks was communicating to the west was we don't want a confrontation. what's correct, however, and something tells me that there's going to be me. so the actions from the west for medicaid just seem not to be able to get itself out of this court until intentional attitude that it is develop since the cold war starts of america in cold war mo. um, i think there will be consequences, but i can also tell you, one of the consequences will be to try and define jessica in particular. you're not

going to see all america. will some african countries, um and almost like a this is a decision. i think it will be consequences. fox is going to try and play a double game and very with the even try to attend correct the summer. yes, just this morning, president mccormick's a statement saying we're going to send more long, long things. marseilles said for ukraine, but i'm also forwarding to talk to president putin. uh, president buckle. make up your mind. which one easy? maybe you should say. can we put a hold on giving um some sort of the what and then we stopped to pay. um, i think the west um fee is the breaks because even though brooks ford focus on march on development of the south corporate sort of monkeys, other to the multi polar world has the right. absolutely. it is a wrong yes. and you know, for a very long time,

a applicant's has been publicly and in private, is expressing their grievances being that they don't have equity. and the decision that is being made and they are not included in, in all of these conversations that take place where decisions are be made and it's most impacting the content. it. and i know that a president rel, oppose a push for african countries to apply. and be, you know, a part of the plot, where do you, do you see that the applicant continent is a priority for breaks given that they now want to get away from their former color i'm, i'm going to give it to frank on. so the idea of pretty form of the united nations, for example. now there's been a fundamental breaks for both china and russia to, to secure the gold from embassy. the farm is all come that we expand. um,

do you insignificant? because quite frankly, they will also be like the boss to push me. i, i, i'm an analyst, right? i'm here to analyze since i've been ethical. so to the problem. everybody, particularly president law capital, reminding us of ethic is one point. 4000000000 people have to use as the case. 55. yeah. how do you get the 55 to speak is what? for example, i made a point you already. yes. the fact that only 2 african countries are now in the top of the ever comes wouldn't think about the effect, the president, my pause, i have to reach consensus with for other books leaders that will be backlash against a president on my point. so there's little doubt about that. the west is courting some of the others farther africa, most vote unity among itself. since just finally, i think you are right, the difficult loan portal for the consummation of the global of florida. whether

the west is going to listen is going to be able to sing and you know, when you're gonna see the 1st, sorry, s w, sorry, c, g 3, o. correct? okay, to is almost yes. and who's hosting it easy is it, is, it was all result in be able to have a piece guess what the i c c method is going to come up with you? well, you know, security, security matters have been very key part of the discussion here. and, and speaking of the, you mentioned that, you know, the west is going to start tearing apart african countries over just 2 countries being chosen to insert the block and potentially more in the future. however, how do you see the benefit of breaks and ask for combination and stabilizing piece and, and development on the continent? yeah, i, i think when i read the declaration, how special that about how it people most.