glenn caldwell for the consummation of the global of florida. whether the west is going to listen is going to be the 2nd, you know when you're going to see the 1st. sorry, yes. tell me. sorry. c g 3, o. correct? doing this almost yes. and who is hosting it easy is it is, it was all result in be able to have a piece guess what the icpc method is going to come up with you? well, you know, security, security matters, have been very key part of the discussion here. and, and speaking of the, you mentioned that, you know, the west is going to start tearing apart african countries over just 2 countries being chosen to insert the block and potentially more in the future. however, how do you see the benefit of breaks and ask a combination in stabilizing piece and, and development on the continent? yeah, i, i think when i read the declaration, how special that about how it,

people almost recognizes the political systems. it's a, the big slide. it didn't pass judgment on china system one brush system. i see the word democracy features where, you know, that probably comes from south africa and india, and brazil. i don't only think it's in peace and security and where it was decisive . i can develop on the future. um very open portland. i have to push it about one. we're waiting for the day when the 11 bricks come to small from january, lot 5, any more of us getting used to this very slowly level? um, how do they collectively respond to african meeks of some of those. how do ethic organize itself collectively to put joints needs on the table? because the great, this for you that i here is that while you and i and allies in the right is now

a multi left tool. and a you small to that to point to the will probably the biggest. so it is the 2nd world war in the formation of the united nation. so i just want to give you some statistics when nato was form to attempt. when do you need more forms? it was 6. when the u. n. will form the only 46 carpenters in the world. there's not 196 members. right? um, how does it go organize itself to speak with one voice? because my great this for you is, you and i analyzing a monkey left for organization. yet for the just said, he's the bought him today for you here and okay, very good. informed one. so this, this tension between engaging africa multilaterally. what comes this also pursue their own interest, and it's not just china and russia. india does the same result. us the same and it's up to bring this things to a correct and i, and i think

a president run the post. i made a point to that where he says that this is a formation of friendship and respect for each of our country's interest. so with, with, with the block members pursuing their own specific and respective interest. i don't think it would be that big of a problem. do you think so? no, no, no, i don't think so. what i tell you what was fascinating when the journalist skipped austin president, she often making the announcement about helping so difficult to edit a crisis. right. so how old is that advocate? the chinese seemed a very important message sought after the main was listen, we will help with the crowds with the equipment and with the energy supplies back. it is for you to solve your problem that i've been what the chinese was saying, does that we're not only the funding the energy stabilizer with the closest correct

gift console and stability over your system. because because of the rush of china and even india and brazil don't mess around, is the unity of the pop, the unity of the space. and that was a very important message to solve, the cost of only what you know, what, what have being countries like rest like india and for sale, we do have control of the political structures. do you think that knowledge can be transferred? now that you know, south africa is already a part of the bridge, and now you have 6 other countries that have joined the club with, you know, some of them being somewhat and stable. do you thing. now the not as can be transferred to help bring stability to the political setup. so it's not only that i would go further and said, this is not for the time for advocate the show too much, bright, correct? cool. too busy. go to moscow. go to daddy's, go to brazilian. even saw the ethical scene as a model of governance in africa. need some serious systems to help

stabilize it. because like i'm saying, the position is all over to. they've been, the agency is going to lose the election next year and some of them even sort of somebody will pull out of a brooks. i don't think it's going to happen. yes. um, but i think i think that the items will put you on a teaser as an advocate should grab the i'll put you even from russia, correct? even from russia. ok. well professor landsberg, thank you so very much for being here. i think you've given us a wealth of analysis on all of the additions to the new rates as we caught it. now there's 11, as we mentioned. thank you so very much have it for you over to the bottom. i don't have a problem uh appear to go up to it. okay, fantastic. we will have plenty more to speaks. there will be plenty more to talk about supervisor, chris landsberg, chair of african diplomacy, and for a policy at the university of johannesburg.

now i will have the kids now i will have a scratch to tell senior research your fellow at the university of south africa gave as his take on the expansion of the brick block. today's announcement is a huge boost for breaks, as well as the global self. so it is a nice mix of nations and i think it's a big a positive news today. saudi arabia has been the late come and i think that seems to be a boost of egypt has always been in the planning to join breaks. i c. c o. p a has also been incorporated. and of course, as in tina, which is a huge play in left in america, so it is quite a good balance. and a new kind of layer within breaks the world is still a, this contest ation among large file with particularly in the big fights with the facts of the un security council. and that is always been historic. but i think

with breaks it does give a kind of more broad, a base so that nations can find a way to look at the big issues which is about trade, which is about job creation, which is about climate change. organizations. as mentioned earlier at the breaks, a lions as well as african countries are seeking to move away from the dollars global hedge and many and also did change their colonial past. however, not all wish the states are ready to abandon their interest on the african continent. so quickly as the french president emanuel, my client, sought to get himself an invite to the international event in johannesburg, but was turned out our teeth contributor bio mass then build a to the details. there's no s in bricks, but that doesn't stop french president emanuel calls from wanting to get one back in june as he tried to score france an invite to this month's annual brick summit

alongside around 70 other countries conveying to the meeting in south africa. frank said that it just wanted to talk super innocent, but birch leaders weren't impressed. the knock home made the 1st move, claiming that he just wanted to talk. we're thinking out loud, but it's obvious the decision that only the relevant countries can take about the possibility of continuing this dialogue. why not to the brick summit or, and then the other form it is the french president's invited maxim. okay, yes, that's why i forgot to do this quite up using a no, no invitation has been issued in that regard. maybe my call to just try crossing the summit like some kind of a jealous x going to their x is wedding reception. but why didn't even bother asking for an invite anyway, what caught, not close by. you can say that brooks is the girl next door to whom the west

couldn't even be bother giving a 2nd glass not that long ago. it's time to the time out to the breaks slopes in rising states into neat categories betrays of west and centric world view. the now ups goes more than it illuminates all the rushes present to meet treatment video of cold at the, at the center of world politics. this disparate quartets signally failed to rival the groove of 8 industrial countries as a form to economic discussion. but now the breakfast thrown up and turned into a real look. are the kind that has just now overtaken? did you 7 in g, d, p adjusted for purchasing power parity. $56.00 trillion dollars for breakfast compared to $52.00 trillion dollars for the g 7. that's according to the international monetary fund. if any western leader was going to have the audacity to try getting into a summit, led by countries that they're constantly bullying normally, china and russia,

it makes total sense that it would be knock home. the french president has a unique talent for speaking out of both sides of his mouth pretty much at the same time. whenever there's a choice back home. that's washington every single time when it comes to actions, even when it's to francis and europe's economic detriment. but the mere fact that he asked for a bricks invite allows maxwell to lay claim to open mindedness. so you can say that, hey, he tried to reach out, but that his hand was just pushed away, which is like bad mouth thing, a girl. and then telling everyone that she woke up with you, anyone with half a brain would think that the best thing to do now would probably be to go away and maybe start proving yourself through your actions before asking for another chance . the good news for my call is that there is no better time for a non alignment, particularly since going all in with the western camps. us lab agenda really hasn't

worked out too well for the average french citizen suffering from the seemingly endless cost of living prices. it's really the only argument that he needs to give uncle sam on the permission slip, but he apparently figures he needs from them. or else france, if they figured they were really independent, would not be in this mass in the 1st place. being an invalid admirer or former french president shall have the good who yanked france out of the nato command and kicked the americans out of the country in order to guarantee independence post world war 2 mccain this the opportunity to do pretty much the same thing. and francis own best economic interest when they don't take to fight with russia over ukraine by loading up the country with weapons and neo nazi trainers. and now the bricks, despite having started off as an economic alliance, there's no rallied around russia in support of a whole new multi polar world view. thanks in large part to being spewed by the isolationist and putative treatment of russia by washington and its vassals over ukraine. if not cool is really serious about impressing the brakes,

then maybe he should 1st start acting more in line with the independence to which he constantly pays lip service. we are now joined by south african m p. the line name, because mccain mckeever, chair, person of the select committees on public enterprises and communications that i thank you so very much for making time to be here on. i good afternoon and thank you for having me. absolutely. you know, i want to start this conversation by asking you something i found deeply incredible about you. you were a young boy. wouldn't mind della was freed and you were the was saluting him on his welcome rally when he was coming home. please tell me what, what this moment means for you. for south africa. it, it is the whole country of nelson mandela. what does this moment mean? it was really a very defining moment and foment, of excitement and joy,

a moment due for the patient and the moment of reckoning. where in where things were now crossing the rubicon and taking away the chains of cover nearly 10 of updates and embracing the new drawing, the new dispensation of freedom and demo, trust me. it was really, it's very difficult to really express what sense of feelings at that time. so being very welcomed him in to also him. we've had read the heart of the edition, inspired by those who came before us. because we all spiritual imports. you know, we take to him from those who came before us. so to be given that prime support of actually end up facing with him directly as we stepped out of date, it was really and then went over that, you know, i, i thought this would be a special place for you to tell us. so south africa is the house and is also the 1st african country to join the brakes block. and now,

because of south africa's push, there are 2 other continental states that joined the black. i'm being a mazda 6 what, what is your take on that? well, it's a beautiful inquiry into goods as far as i'm concerned. we have the last one. we have the last country in the continent to actually get it on the independence and freedom. but we're the 1st country to join the px. yeah. what a wonderful question for that correct. so i'm saying therefore that too, we have quite excited that even though we are the last 4 and in so far as the demo crossing of the guys concerned. but we are the fest for in terms of being member state for the big community. and this has given us a lot of the privileged position as well as i am lucky to include that in the, in the accident that we have had with the last year. uh, but as the, in the, as well as china, you just put us on a very advantage position,

but not only to sort of self glorify ourselves, but to champion the policy perspective for the entire continent, the aspirations in the interest of, of the go up for these on the table when we engage with a brief congress. absolutely. you know, speaking of policies that you has recently started limiting, enforce from africa for various declared reasons. does this provide an opportunity to boost economic relations between the brick members states? you see the dynamics that are happening in the international admin, giving us a sense of acting in unison and in collective we still 1st and foremost on our own as african all these policy injections. if i'm a call it that way that are destructive against us, must take us back to the thing, but to say we need to reorganize also have an applicant so that we spend up and actually come up with

a qualitative approach. and so far as policy approach on trade and international relations. so this is that, and then we'll put 22 to say, let's know, begin to change our full costs into the breaks countries and stopped company tantalizing on this moment. and this is one moment indeed of africa. we need to take it up, especially that i know he started called colonial accommodations in terms of our friendship and experience with the bricks. countries site is going to be easier for us to make business with them. we have history, friendship relationships, and who can capitalize on, but it will take us, you know, to the top of the mountain. absolutely. and you know, one of the key or doing this on the break for the break. some, it was also a common breaks currency. as we, i've already seen, the 5 nations have surpassed the g 7, g, d p, just trading amongst themselves on the local currencies. how do you see that play out for the continent? and what do you see that the relationship between the brakes and ask because the

relationship between of forgot and brakes is going to change the color mix dynamics of the continent for the benefit of the majority of our toiling muscles. remember that the brakes nation on their own, they account for almost more than one pair of the wealth population. so for africa, which is good people, amounting to one from a full deal. if we're to trade with china, which is good $1.00. if you don't people, an india with 1.3 as well as russia with almost half of the don't people that tells you that's just us alone. as of the got in the big some of the, the, we can actually account for the global g d p to more than one page of, of what you're comfortable in the, in the international. absolutely. and what are they mean avenues for economic and political cooperation within bricks as well as integration between its members.

because now it's, it's opened up a flat gate with the members as well as for breaks of the global south. yeah, we need to prioritize. firstly, we need to say 1st things. first, there's been a very big debate about the issue of the industrialization as well as investment in the infrastructure. that pet aspect is put security and i could catch up in particular the big family together with of the guy can actually be the pro, the food basket of the entire with. i believe that if we join hands from funds of culture as well of interest as much as i think is what a under supervision will take over in terms of what needs to happen. would basically be giving direction to the rest of the well with the coming to africa is one of the fixed limited benchmarks on what we're doing. and we are working with countries that pay attention to, to get everything the chinese do. they pay attention to, due to dental actions,

do the same. the indians do the same. we just have to be collected as an african when we embrace this domain because it is going to benefit and change the group as well as the complection of africa, which has suffered for so long and a bit to child colonization of the west. i think this is a moment where in we can free on save by working with those what our friends and what did you need available to embrace us basically rossfield china, prattville and india, dell thing it took just pulls on and they're not just paying lip service the at, for the giving of tons of those which show that they are committed to what they see . absolutely, and, you know, speaking on africa needing to part ways with colonial, a traditional partners that have colonized to africa. and how do you see that playing out now that more and more african countries would be joining the bridge, especially now 2 giants on the continent have joined a mind amongst the members,

ethiopia, as well as each affair to critical economies as well as geo political countries. the liberation of the african voice is very important. it's time for us to do what we want to do for us when it's time for us to say any conversation that talks about us must not happen without us in the table as it has been happening. and we have seen right here in the breaks when the formal conference of the breaks and that these no breaks dial where in many of the over 10 countries around the table. because the conversation has to be inc, will save us when we talking about our own state of being in our future. the coming in of it. you'll appeal, which is the political copy done of the continent, says a lot in terms of how we should be very distracted. you can know our approach, how we should this much in terms of how we do things the coming. you know,

it's funny how does one, sorry to interrupt you, we actually have argentine giving a press conference. let's listen to that role to play. we've seen these contacts, you ministers, governments from argentina, and the brakes going to we belong to the same countries that are from the emerging developing countries is the g 2 and the and we share share share conversations that we can bring pours to they facing the next assignment, things that be in india and then we go see it that the presidency of india and in future precedence ease of the g 20. and also they, one of in a nation are a great opportunity to to include our progress in the agenda of the gm's 20. so we need, that's

a stain and we'll develop, man that makes all the conditions equal to everybody. we, we cause you be the indians for maybe a bit of an all day, but let me tell development that we order him to achieve the conditions for these to happen means that we have to secure a different financial risk resources. we have to apply immediate actions to ended that and to and to n, all that practice is from there or about that are not really useful to us. and also we have to promoting investment and corporations scientific as well as taking a logical breaks because he has a very big financial way that the place a key role to be signed. these architecture, a global architecture, it to address,

they call knows that phrase, they investment and social welfare needs. and as friends and strong breaks through, the participation of different members will create another platform. so they're developing countries can drive argentina, has been a guess to the brakes savvy. today we are the 2nd country off, so nothing. i'm a guy to be part of freaks where this 2nd quantity speaks spanish from left in, i'm a guy who's part of the visa go to the breaks where the voice of a bill was sauce. i don't want to in my but the patient without saying that i'm very thankful for for these invitation and also for our wordpress in the city of them who

who has expressed the same hopes that we shared to the oppressive in china should being thank you so much thank you. my shows by stephen x and then see this a casino, the prime minister of the people's republic of talking to the dish. is miller and all the research on efficiencies? ladies and gentlemen, the a i type this is at least of my post are forward to use invitations. i see a person on a desk, but it just hold off because having enjoyed the affection and blessings up, they sit in monday and i do call and he's joining i was for the ration for

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