and continence, what were they doing at the time? so that 1st they enticed 2nd, should billy in every possible way important? i remember perfectly well how then us president george bush said, gosh, really was a very good guy. i simply grinned at the time. i went to the white house, then how's the head of the administration and said, well we'll wait and see about that time has shown just what a good guy he is. he's just crazy and very dangerous. and the us methodically guided the situation into a conflict on russia's borders, nurtured in every possible way. a group of people who at the time we're pursuing this course, said by soft gosh, really immediately before the conflict, he will come to several american delegations, including i believe one with condo is a rice. in all likelihood, he was told,

don't worry, there's been a change of leadership in russia and in a lot of other factors too. and nothing will happen to you for doing this. and then he rushed to execute this provocation at full speed. so the us did not just add fuel to the fire or try to put a puzzle together. they directly led the situation to this clash. by the way, they then began to try to dig themselves out and portray a bad situation in a good light. i remember a conversation i had with the same george bush just a few days after the conflict began. i don't know where he was at the time either in america or the olympic games. but the fact is, he called me and said, keep in mind, we have military specialists in georgia and they may get hurt. and i said it's, it's your problem. if you've left them there, you have nothing to blame us for you. that was the conversation literally almost

just a few days after the conflict began. therefore, the united states provoked this conflict. they try to cement these kinds of conflicts in all areas where they believe it can bear fruit. in this case, the goal was to contain the development of rush them and thus complete one of their geo political tasks. john kerry actually hoss loiseau blows up next time. we'll be back in depth on the 30 minutes. with that, i just need the

on june 8th, 1967, an over active war was committed against the united states. the combined air and sea attack against the naval ship us us liberty killed. $34.00 sailors wounded another $171.00 and severely damaged the ship. at the time the ship was in international waters, north of egypt sign i peninsula. but the aggressor was not egypt. it was not the soviet union for any other country, was difficult relations with the united states. it was israel. i'm john kerry, onto welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 2 these really attack on the us s liberty on june 8th, 1967 remains one of the most controversial and confusing military acts of the 2nd half of the 20th century. the attack happened in the midst of the 1967,

a war between israel and its arid neighbors, in which the united states was formerly neutral, is really military leaders said that they would protect the country's coast at all costs. and the pentagon ordered the liberty to keep a safe distance by june 8th, the ship was nowhere near israel. on the morning of the attack is really jets over flew the ship several times. liberty crew members later said that these really planes came so close to the ship that they rattled the deck. the israelis later said that the planes were hunting for egyptian submarines, but it would have been impossible for them not to see that the ship was american and was flying the american flag for the following erroneous reports at 11 24 am that his ship was showing the coast of a lot of these reading military ordered a strike on the liberty they did this, knowing that the liberty had only for 50 caliber machine guns on it's deck and best could not have shelby coast to at 1 41 pm and is rarely ship reported the liberty

in the area, but as an unknown vessel. and these rarely ship reported further that the liberty was travelling at a speed that would indicate that it was an attack ship is really forces were understanding orders to fire on any unknown vessel in the area. and they assumed that the liberty was fleeing after selling a lot, each just before 2 o'clock pm. and is really mirage pilot reported back that he was in visual contact with the liberty. he reported that it was a military vessel with a smokestack and a mast. another pilot said that the ship was a destroyer, and both pilots said disingenuously that the liberty was not flying a flag. at 1 57 pm is really military headquarters gave the pilots permission to attack which they did using 30 millimeter canons and rockets is rarely torpedo boats approached at 2 35 pm fired missiles and strafe the craft with machine guns. the torpedo attack severely damaged the superstructure of the hall and killed an

additional $25.00 men, including most of the ships intelligent section. the machine gun fire was directed at 1st responders and sailors who were preparing life rafts. the israeli military claims that it did not establish the liberties nationality until 3 20 pm when it is rarely surveillance, helicopter saw an american flag flying on the deck, and at 4 pm, 2 hours after the attack began. israel informed the american embassy and telling me that he had had mistakenly attacked us navy ship. the secretary of state dean rusk, bill wasn't buying, is rarely protestations. he issued a statement saying, quote, at the time of the attack, the us liberty was flying. the american flag and its identification was clearly indicated in large white letters and numerals on its whole experience demonstrates that both the flag and the identification number of the vessel were readily visible from the air. accordingly,

there is every reason to believe that the us as liberty was identified, or at least her nationality determined by as rarely aircraft. approximately one hour before the attack, the subsequent attack by the torpedo boats substantially after the vessel was or should have been identified by his really military forces manifests the same reckless disregard for human life and quote. today we are happy to be joined by a survivor of these really attack on the us as liberty field tourney was a young u. s. navy petty officer assigned to the liberty that day. he also is the author of the book. what i saw that day is real as june 8th, 1967 holocaust of us service men aboard the us, us liberty and its aftermath feel. thank you so much for being with us. well, thank you. i appreciate it. glad to be here. take us back to that awful day. we know that many in the crew had just completed the chemical drill. when is really planes began over flying the ship. tell us about what happened before the attack

began. well yeah, it's a interest to you. you'd bring up the drill allowance and the damage control. and i was heavily involved in that drill. i was in a impregnated suit to protect from chemicals in a biological chemical nuclear warfare. supposedly it was supposed to keep you safe, but who knows? that's what to tell you anyway, but yeah, it was, it was so hot outside, pretending i was forcing down the ship new drill. i thought, you know, uh, i'm gonna pass out of shoes to is, is excruciating heat, a beautiful, beautiful day. flag volume, fly, always fly. they secured from general corps and i stowed by gear and went up to what up to the forward gun out. because the sound

part bones were working. and i was ordered by john scott, my division officer to get that phone work and as soon as possible. and so i had a, uh, i seem and that's the person who takes care of, uh, uh, communication, internal communications on the ship davis go lac was assigned to come up and do that. and we were looking over at the bank. you know, it is about, i don't know, 1212 and a half miles away. you can see the black smoke and everything like that. the bombs dropping a weird thing was. let us not us. really. i mean, it was just an unbelievable hood. they were doing what you could see and i left the gun mouth. there was

a government there tops and the sco lacked i just walk down to the starboard ladder, which about working area. and all hell broke loose. the replace coming out as from stem to stern from ports to starboard from starboard to port. it was a instant taylor's instantaneous attack. we couldn't tell who was attacking us. every man on deck was either was either hit or dead at to if i wouldn't have got down that ladder when i did and went to my work space. i wouldn't be here right now . so it was uh it was something that we never expected because we had been identified by israel hours and hours and hours before the attack, as american and friendly. we were always in international waters. we had no idea who was attacking us till later. but the aircraft were black and there were no

marketing around the aircraft. they're mist, ms. steer arised us. doing the attacking. so uh, i can go through a lot of other things, but john, go ahead please. and then these close is really overflights. begin. was there any doubt in your mind that these really pilots knew that the liberty was an american ship? no, john, we didn't have any idea who was attacking us until about 2530 minutes or so at the initial air attack. then we saw this torpedo boats and we recognize the star david on the torpedo boats and we said, oh boy, great, they're, they're coming to help us are coming to help us because that we had stars a david all over that ship inside the ship because we what it is will to be the victor in that war across our, our ally and we knew there they were there to protect us. we thought, no,

they were set there to say to send kill every man aboard the ship. and it was a, it was a nightmare. our government left us out there alone. in fact, they set us up. our own government set us up then, and now they put a lid on this atrocity, this act of war in war crimes, on an innocent crew to it. but the government ordered them do is to spy, be around the most sophisticated spicy up in the world at that time. the most sophisticated. so that means a lot. and they took out every tuning, intent on that ship. in a matter of seconds, we were left up as best as we had no, no way to defend ourselves over the gun now as for blown to bits of dropping they palm on us to burn us up. bridget was on fire. it was hell on earth. i can

guarantee that there's something i wouldn't wish of my worst enemy, john. i just wouldn't do it. the attacking torpedo boats the river surface cracked the retreat. talk feet of boats with barred. approximately 5 torpedoes, at least by maybe 6. but the account 5 who knows why they didn't have to, to repeat those on each boat. i don't know, it's not, it really doesn't make any difference. at this time, they attacked the american ship with surface aircraft. and the low between it we, we only had about a few minutes low between the air attack and then the torpedo attack, they would use machine guns, a machine gun to the side of the ship. uh, over and over and over again. uh it was it was something that uh, it was something that history is covered up. the navy is covered up because they

wanted this all dead to blame the attack on the air of states mass or in particularly because they, they wanted rid of him. they wanted rid of him bad, and if it took to the 294 american souls to go to the bottom of the ocean and blame it on somebody else, that's what they wanted. but by the grace of god, he kept his upload. we were just as servants that day, but you know, i could, uh, i can say a lot more about faith, but he's given us the fact that they to carry on for the last 56 years. because rather we're not gonna allow these people. i'm the current president of the slippery veterans association, is my 4th go around it being the president, and i'm very proud of that. we will not give up. we will not band, we will not break this country may is too much of out to us. you know, the world would have been a much different place, john. this would have taken place like they had planned. they recall the theater

craft to come help us from us as us, as saratoga and the assess america. they re called and left us out there alone. we didn't see any help for 17 hours. field tourney, we are enjoying this conversation, but we have to take a short break. stay right there. we're speaking with us us liberty survivors, field tourney. after the break, we'll ask how he and his colleagues were rescued hours after the attack. stay with us. 2 2 2 2 the, to take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real live indians.

fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills. and is it just because it shows you fractured images, present it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground, can i didn't even him dunbar foolish for that still and with whom i used to be the grand the fees for the night ended. it was pretty damn adequately fell in the front of the status and most recently stuff which is set up with the

american voters are rarely interested in for policy during election cycles. but a said the issue between maybe the exception this time around, particularly among the g o p voters, much of the republican base us our w brain policy. they see it is vice for the welcome back to the visitors. i'm john 3 of 2. we're speaking with phil tourney, a survivor of these really attack on the u. s. navy ship u. s. s. liberty. phil, thanks again for being with us. absolutely. it took hours after the attack for these rallies to finally admit what they had done, and then they offered rescue assistance which was declined. i can only imagine the fury that you and your fellow sailors were experiencing. what happened once the attack was over? how are you rescued, and how is the ship finally towed to port?

well, the attack was over at approximately 2 hours or maybe a little over, but within that span, but the attack did in net then they said troop carroll are carrying helicopters to come finishes up. they had marines ready to board. i ship and then there was a message that came down from who i don't know that the they admitted they made a mistake. there was so sorry, and johnson accepted that and then the lid went on, but it was uh it was uh, 17 hours before they come help us. they left us out there hoping with the site that day we, we were never towed anywhere. we, we went on our own power these railing, government made a formal apology and finally paid a few $1000000.00 to the families of the dead and

a few 1000000 more to the wounded. was that enough? what was the reaction to the apology and to the payments? what else do you think these really should have done? well, the reaction to the payment. okay, there was some men aboard there. they've got a fair amount of money, 800200000. i don't know why most of us got $200.00 or $250.00. we were ordered. we were ordered by admiral issac kid. so never speak of this again. we've ended up in prison or worse, that was in the board of inquiry. they concluded that the attack was mc mistaken identity, that's nothing could be farther from the truth. that was not a mistaken identity. it was cold blooded, premeditated murder on our ship, and our crew that wanted to solve that. yeah, we were scared. i didn't, i didn't say anything about the u. s. s. liberty for oh, uh,

15 years i got divorced my 1st wife and she was the, every married. and there was an article in the rocky mountain news. i read it about to you assess, liberty that was written by a friend of mine. master chiefs stand white and ever says up moment. i've been, i spent every day, every hour, doing something for us as liberty that i can to that mode our ship based die in vain as a did these young guys 182021 years old. uh and uh oh my god. and they, they just slaughtered and never blown to bits blown to pieces. something you can't even hardly describe it as a insane. why do you think there's been such an institutional effort to move past the u. s. s. liberty? most americans have no memory of it. most americans don't even know it happened. why don't we talk about it? why don't we commemorate the anniversary of the attack?

well, it's, it's a, it's a non piece of history, a non piece of naval history, a non piece of american history. hey, it was a mistake here. there's nothing to see here is a mistake. you know, the davy said it was mistaken identity. what's, what's there lying. but they were ordered by lpga to find that the attack was, was the mistaken identity. another act of war. uh, i don't blame the public for not knowing about it because it was never, we were on the front page one day and a 3rd or 4th the other day and then we were just completely gone. there were, there was nothing said about it just went away and if we, if we talked about it or got on our congressmen or senators, they would say it was a mistake, an identity. that's what the record says. and we've already done 10 separate investigations. they've never done any of the investigation. they're lying to us or

lie to the american people or anybody else. and once we get involved with throughout the whole bunch of liars, so that listen, they're, they're protecting israel and they're put, protecting a crooked government. are god, but they're just as crooked now as they were 56 years ago in this sense that there's many, many more doubt through history of what governments in the past, the power of people in those positions. we were nothing but cannon fodder aboard that ship. they didn't care about us, our government didn't care about us. they said us up to be murdered. think about that. a cup a country use for a know to defend them with your life. defended give your life and then our government wants to kill us and then have our best buddy says, we'll do the murdered their hand in hand. they have been offer,

so it's 1948, but i want to talk about 1967, june 8th. and what they've done to us then, and now they've forgotten about us. they've called us jew haters, nazis, anti semitic pigs. anything else you could do to downgrade just to make us feel terrible. we didn't kill everybody. they did all the kill and tell us where our of yours can learn more about the work that you do and tell us about your book. yeah, we want a memorial where we are doing it ourselves. we have to it our selves because the government won't happens. they will, as i'm telling you. it's uh, it's like, standing in front of a, uh, uh, 18 wheeler and getting run over every day. that's what they think of the crew with us as lever. yeah. my dad and john that the american legion here in america i has a bad does for life,

the bad as for life because one of our guys are 2 of them. then all of that and are in a gallo why did a booth at the national convention, they refused it, and the gland to our piece of our collision car fell on one woman and she said he assaulted her. they put him in jail, they put him in jail for one night, got out. i had to play to something to stay out of jail again. out of state. and they had him and they, they were just making it a spectacle, loved him, and us as liberty. so they hate us. even in the american legion, the higher ups there, they're all politicians, john, all of them. they don't care about the, the got the drugs out there, the people who do all the work when they get power. just like being a congressman or senator or president is their power and that's all they care about

the investigation. john was there. we never wasn't investigation, never the only investigation they had was a set up one, but by the board of inquiry adviser kid, i might add word boston, who was the chief judge advocate, a board to ship later in life, reported back and said, hey listen, we were ordered to do this, we knew it was a pretty bad attend attack, but we've lowered by johnson. i'm a military man and i do what they they tell me to do. and he told everybody, and i'll get you that documented if you'd like. but he said this was a set up deal and it was never mistaken. k at identity. everybody knew it except the american people. a feel. thank you so much for being with us. and thanks to our viewers, i like to close the shows with the quote that is up lifting or perhaps even thought

provoking. i like to quote philosophers and learned people from around the world. but today's quote, more appropriately comes from believe george ball, who is the us under secretary of state at the time of the us us liberty incidents. he said, quote, american leaders did not have the courage to punish israel for the bleeding murder of its citizens. the liberties, presence and function were well known to his really leaders. israel's leaders concluded that nothing they might do would have fendy americans to the point of reprisals if american leaders did not have the courage to punish israel for the bleeding murder of american citizens. it seemed clear that their american friends would let them get away with almost anything. i'm john kerry octave, thanks for watching the whistle blowers until next time. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the

on july, the 8th 1941 german troops ended in a stony of from the south soviet soldiers and civilians for the enemy courageously on the stony and soil go with thousands of casualties. fold out the federal home to us point 04. we are giving you 50 feeling it though i'm not sure if i see it over to the demon. that's the beauty we bought. the what is pushing that during the years following the safety of victory. a large number of monuments loveless and burial sites were rented to on of those who had fallen in the wall to get the bombing vs. just another. however, recently, many of them have either been demolished vandalized or completely neglected. we sold the us the on those who do this best to preserve once the left of the memory. so as to prevent, rewrite history and really make consciousness power for the one that

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