when you cuz they were made to the drawers, the hello and welcome to was a part in this new foreign policy concept signed into law the spring. russia for the 1st time officially defined itself as a distinct country civilization, but its own set of values and its own articulated vision of the world and the relations different nations. what does it mean for the way moscow positions itself on the international stage? and perhaps even more important to me, how it goes about building its own life here at home. i'll discuss it. i'm now

enjoying bar on the pretty bulk one a fresh as most of the nouns colors of the east as a senior searcher with the peoples friendship, university of russia. by st. bye, thank you so much for your time. when happy to talk and answer your questions. and let's start with the concepts i mentioned pick up our which has given rise to many discussions and russia about what a civilization is. sort of how it is different from a country that section only if i just so we're working primarily with english speaking audiences. some of i had a lot of trouble coming up with a good english word for some of with me. but finally, because it's kind of means unique, unique, distinct, exceptional, and what have you. so sufficient? what does that you go in other option? what's your understanding of this idea from up with the civilization self sufficiency is rooted within the particular character for stakes. who's totally

keen to look for the cultural and intellectual leads of the country. yeah, i thought certainly was which then it kind of a ripple effect of propagation across the rest of the population. in the shooting, you mean your position is less than bolt and higher. cultural endeavors include education management, etc, to go with them. but in this regard rusher would like to be self sufficient, and i think it has a good chance of achieving this goal. so you have this top down idea of a self sufficient civilization. however, russian lives have changed dramatically over the past few centuries. will the countries either some craddick self sufficiency, how's the theory remain the same? then you might to use just see if something goes established to cold, say at the end of the must go roost area to cuba. and as soon as 10 such a major top down revolution, the role of a hold on people to see who coke, what was the beats of a great try to accomplish, let up you, those old habits come back story. those patterns just called disappear. the new

style. let me explain one aspect of this concept. you could, i mean, what would you have? so yeah, we just need to go to the opposite types of deletes and with the coy cobra and sold a diary below to move the could i and if people got but you know, the best example of a corporate slate is the british or they charge shipping the products you nearly take a lead time for you to complete these people united by a shared educational background where i am strong, but someone, psycho pathological use themselves think a generalized version of eating college. and you still couldn't care less about the countries people that they worked to benefit each other to protect their own privilege, to be able to guess all those white masters. let's just look at how those what masters treated for english sailors going forward. a best example of a society was sold into relates, which is the opposite type, is china, is it a couple things to consider soon as most slipped back in the times of pizza, the great tools consulted the relates was beginning to form an countries. so let's

make these clear for all viewers, we're talking about officials who genuinely care about the people's interest. yes, however, in the heat, it may sounds just that these officials losing light in states most do not see themselves as much different from the rest. so there is the ritual, as well as a bureaucratic aspect, of course, move before the to the great rushes. the leads include a top clergy, but you're definitely so think on yourself. and most definitely, it was an example of a solid area that is a little in the color of the anglo saxons. and especially that americans have been raised in the spirit of calvinism or puritanism, which essentially broke and lives across the introduction bookshelf. but while they divided people into the chosen ones and the rest were not chosen, and yet it's not just that they're not chosen to turn they use is rep probate 1st. which means forever alienated godforsaken. those who have new hope and whose only purpose in life is to serve the elect. good, certainly, but that's not what we have here. what circling back to some, a business to

a self sufficiency. american concept of exceptionalism also includes this idea of being unique to how is russian some, a business different from american exceptionalism. yeah. doing what you guys think russia and iran, you said something in common in those regards. these, at least partially. expressions is tre, includes a successful attempt at creating and expanding spears, and continue using via video to city, as opposed to the empire as built by the anglo saxons, the french, and so on. she's on what, which meant, colonizing overseas territories, fox, who, the contiguous empire, e, which means communication, but then it's bold as easy a border did not inside a desire to subjugate and crush concord people's nicole assuming they reach, although sadly such instances also took place, but it was nowhere near the scale, evidently in the envelope sykes, some of the spanish portuguese and pause. and so that was that well,

but not much familiar with the responsibility to guys of what it wasn't even though it was that the results of the byzantine influence. because the eastern roman empire operated on the same principles, thinking that repression was counter productive, that it was easier to assimilate, new subjects on negotiated compromise with them. to an extent yes most let's go though. one might argue that with the follow up with these on time in par, to here is emerged, but the most at the 2nd there was the ultimate grandpa. she just took fluids more, although this bureaucratic systems of government from the greeks. where else could they get them going to send the sultan's greek subject 7th, cold in by the last? what the many observers have remarked upon russia's uniqueness over this century's skilful carpet. it seems to me that many russians use as a sign of inferiority or deficiency leticia suits. your famous lines to russia

cannot be known by the mind, no measures by the common measure. you know, how you can only believe in russia are often quoted with the beat of his smoke. well, with a beat of condescension or self deprecation lashing fox, i and why do you think is that channel with us as are you do? i think it has to do with the negative side of the russian traditions of government . will probably new people who make russia in all seriousness. this may have and you can be serious about mccrae, you can be sincere. are most likely, but still without concept. yes, small create concept that 2 different things, most likely. there are people who would like to contribute to the development of the lens to explain why, but feel that they are not allowed to but that if given the chance that would stop motion, i also need to present you because they want to be doing productive, uninspiring, work if you go to the i think this is a clash between persons of old solidarity emissions. are they inherited from the design to an empire in the ceiling and even from china,

i chose to present to you. it's just the kind of corporate top players superimposed and paused by piece of the crate and then paused by catherine the 2nd. just use the so the, the empress grants are those freedoms to the nobility. she created a corporate elite for funding components, even if there was also the post solve your period to. and we were happy to embrace that mentality and today is lies. that was the latest stage. those are the ones that is and braced it. but the majority of people were simply confused. if you have listed many different incidences under russia, there's a fundamental principle in psychology which says that you cannot be fully mature and grow as a person. if you don't accept yourself as a whole, without judging yourself too much about who can sing clear the stage, know where we can begin to accept our sales and a pause to bring yeah, i was still just responding to the west reaction, so they're turning away from us now, well then we'll turn away from them through a certain extent. we are responding to the west reaction. you know,

at the same time, we haven't yet decided which parts about history to choose as a point of reference to put in which the sun prefer the soviet union to others prefer the russian empire summit. rather than thinking about russia before, each of the great new media look is always good, which these things need to be harmonized. they should be an understanding of the common thread. we're still could we buy new and i believe that's what fluctuations in the approaches to building the leads and the methods of the leads education and upbringing is there with all the main sectors, shields, and should be looked into what you've written. that's what defines it. civilization as opposed to country is not just formulating but leaving its values in the flesh and use of them to establish the civilization so unique way of life and broad a world view here. based on these approach, what's less ation size in the world with internet oaks used to 3 or 4 main civilizations at the unfortunately follows from my theory,

the far eastern civilization has china. it's cool, but also includes korea vietnam, especially most vietnam in japan. yeah. and maybe something else that you use and we have the south asian satellite station centered around india currently includes in the ball. and so a lanka ship and used to include most of indo, china is the shape of selection because you're still sell to a certain extent and indonesia. what do you want me to tell you have the middle eastern civilization of which there are 2 versions of the big pulse includes the arabic world and jewish culture, which is quite similar to that consists of just one that's nice, that's a human. they're organized in similar ways though in the wrong e. okay. and lastly, we have the western civilization before but which also includes us but as at least 3 different versions used by me and what, what did anybody on top? there's the mainland european version globally, even a piece key will tend the insular anglo saxon version really, unless i close for more than a century,

they have not consider themselves europeans to be able to peace and their right. even though they do only when it's huge, that goes yes. on the americans comp, really consider themselves to be your opinions. and then there is us, you can you originally, even though our version is the orthodox version, of course, the annotated and published loan already on to chris jones, calling you to at the same time, we were to look at our resources for so we're similar to china because chinese one huge country, even though surrounded by country, is influenced by its culture. she said, i think it was too late. when not, we are a huge country surrounded by people that used to until recently or still share our faith was in the, for example, georgians, the bulgarians, romanians, the greeks serves etc. no. then it's noticeable. see at this patterns of how these people see themselves. so what's the value is they have keep a patriot being in spite of frequent betrayals by the lead switch happens both here and there. there's still this feeling of kinship. so am i get out of this, right?

that's weird, kind of a hybrid civilization that can boost adaptable, ended comment, died and also creates something unique. it's difficult more i'd say not really hybrid like europeans. we are a version of it's hard time. we sped up our development to try to see what so, but mostly because the most of the time we have been the referral version for me. it's not hard to see why really frustrated, cold. let me just doesn't have a large population. also plus product is lower mutual more so we don't have that much to offer to the leads so that they can develop various forms of culture with yeah, this but still when we decided to how to go it, it's in earnest. a good. just look at the results, we can easily consider mathematics and music to be the highest achievements of european culture, although many will disagree with me. here. e. o scott, both the russian mathematical school and russian music are truly extraordinary, where 2nd to none is here. according to what i mean yet, but we have to take a very short break right now, but we'll be back in just

a few moments extension. the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills. and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this? but can you see through their illusions, going underground? can some nations may be able to turn a blind eyes to atrocities?

another comes the united states of america is different. wherever people longed to be free, they will find a friend in the united states, the, to the automated body of the bolts. anybody very easy to sort of city and do all the look at what the in service of each skid 18 color revolutions is. one among set for me is to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the helm of us. the western economic interest people been cited as an that he did to everybody, the democrats, yes, we think portal active soul know the st. louis of to by what i mean. he gets the final goal of the same revolutions to ensure that there are no independent players

in the world anymore. the, the welcome back to was a part with on the day putting bulk one a process, most renowned colors of the east of the senior research, or when the people's friendship university of russia. underneath there was mr. perry bulk in the 1st part of the program. we discussed the diversity of civilization, so you read it. almost all of them emerge during the so called actual age where very easy to use a term coined by called jasper's whom you admire that of if the premiums were talking about the period allows up 2500 years ago. you would take 2 full centuries. i'm curious to know what's in your opinion, makes a me run an axial age. could we be currently living through one foot bureau?

it's no more what i think makes it an actual age is the crisis of what i would call by battery and as a ship i ship to this, and this is my usage of the term. or you could mean something different from a child that also is called up by ryan is a ross specifically. but then there were too many different professions to many people. and some of the greater wealth due to natural growth will still to the old phones of social organization or so. but it sort of which has to be mostly based on family ties were no longer effective. postpone them really cool and the people no longer perceived each other naturally as legitimate human beings. what do you mind? don't don't get pulled up. so maybe what do you do is nonsense which of your own dock? i'm not going to allow my daughter to marry your son if i think that your work is nonsensical, eat the restaurant, different cultures, or rather to pre civilizational, but quite advanced societies. this plus the options to came up with different

solutions for cementing the cultural integrity to with quinn. totally easy in store, but it's mostly talking about the acknowledgment of the value of each of those mines scales and so on. because uh, without that to cut even share it religions probably took me to yeah. and so it came to pass that in the west. what cemented society was thinking together to mean to we shouldn't push up to something that the greeks called logos. and then it's a little ratio reason to uh, what i was getting to it was up sedation, 1st homes for a very complex and symbolic rituals. what about the widow? but the website is that it's been a while, but so you choose, we certainly leaned into a very acute powers of observation, much in the e. you've got a piece, an important european. and then the european elite is the thinking man. in the middle east and west or k and together is also important for what you buy from the mess is more than the content of your thinking, which is the role of the person who expresses the judgment through it. the whole story which goes away to the source with us, all law, me least, and gold company,

not all the gold of the jews, as someone who's judgment, jesus, even in the form of revelations, cause absolute authority and cannot be challenged. the purely european structure manages without such a golden. that'll go to thinking like, and the rest of those works. this brings me a right to my next question, was that you claim that an advantage or a unique feature of russia is subordinates by his sense of spirit shell, community for the state of inactive thinking together to this isn't even hard a concept to express in english really, maybe you could explain it in more acceptable terms. and most importantly, what does it give us? a bill, i recently read a colleagues article where it is argues that the word subordinate was coined in the russian translation of his level file out of scope pieces. originally written in french textbooks, split up, i don't know what the original french word was. maybe come on your team, you definitely know community. i don't know for sure. i forget to see the

civilizational solution worked out in russia, which we can call subordinate with a free is, in my opinion as follows. gentlemen, with a couple of thoughts on those thinking. cool. we see leads, that understands you develops and supports the ideas of a civilization, right. but usually it's mostly done. it typically is, i'd say other people are involved as well. actually a logically and emotionally completed so many of whom are incapable of independence . thoughts move, you coupling your special but who can relate to the values? reflect, invest, thinking a couple of times. i'd say that mostly in your what 3. so in the traditional version, the russian civilization before the modem era, there thought kind of this phenomenon was represented by the liturgy who died in a position. and i saw them yesterday that in the regular joint practice, encouraged and motivated people to perceive each other as kindred beings for the next couple weeks. but am very interested in young's dep psychology which in

essence studies the collective unconscious. what religion calls god the source of energy wasn't just for some reason why it's a boat going through a. i mean, i think that in this respect, some of that some russia means more towards the collective, unconscious photo clinic achieving the weight. and it sounds like an organization, so in every individual, so was invested in the big collective psyche of the west. on the other hand, is more individualistic in use. a butterflies to paraphrase nature, god is constantly being illuminated. so the collective aspect is removed. we'll do well if we can only agree impulse from the below. if we talk about the essence of godes cox, it is definitely not. i'm conscious of bucks more useful, but it is super conscious that the printer specific. so it's not to i that i was pretty so i might have to write or trans personal for something that's bigger than human nature was bigger than the individual postpone. or if i'd like to share my

personal opinion and see what you think for the cost of what i believe the any ideology, any civilization that changes in humans or the consciousness is due to the question . because the human mind simply comp handle this massive burden. and uh, got a type of script, the human mind is incapable of existing in complete disregard of that. only watching me from this name is access. i was not able to access the, but this was an attribute of the soviet project. well, my question is about the western civilization, but it was kaiser you see the rejects these aspects of lots and, and we wouldn't be able to go through a transformation without crashing and avoid the soviet union scenario. you had to move on yet? no, i don't think so difficult. i would even say definitely not the it's of cousin for this crash. but even if it's a little, even from the demographic standpoint,

is the child pray, philosophy, as well as other tense adults are natural, biology and impede essential rep production will lead to elimination the love shape more. generally, these trend dualism towards individual isn't that most of will always go into turn . what used to be a society can re sheets into groups of light charges that repel each other just when you move, just know that there will be no society's please. and, and i guess these benefits some malicious centers, malicious corporate to lead that wants to control everyone else. that's what i think it. basically, it's about consciously turning people into some unconsciousness which can be easily controlled. yes. those who want to do so, and there are definitely such people around are consistently story consciously building the system. once he says you want us made this very interesting point, put another western civilizations definition of progress, but it could differs greatly from the way all the civilizations understand it.

could you elaborate more than that, please? what was happening? well, the western civilization is diverse, which did we spend almost 2 centuries ago. hazelton made fun of the idea of infinite progress, both quantitative and qualitative. for some reason, especially in the american way of thinking, there must be more of everything or everything should be, must produced. when asked why the advocates of such values usually find themselves nonplussed, goes on who would have thought of another very, until the progress of sales are represented by the us to solve. the problem is a good variance. it's not a complete one, which was not helping out nourishing the upper parts of the population. the most developed the most talented, the most persistent, one, mcgruther in pulling up the lower parts are new space and they use associated to colossal results in that. so either way, but the best way would be to combine the 2 approaches progress the way it is seen by the indian civilization or chinese or a pro agents are less ation is not expressed as vividly. and it's doubtful that

they can be directly translated. sorry for jump in in the testing of those cultures and civilizations, you mentioned also have this very explicit idea of balance it and understanding the too much of an a thing is it has a burden too much of anderson is not good because it's kind of a distraction from things that are more important and valuable. yeah, of course. so any over development is dangerous. there's an old chinese tory story about a man to invented something that you'd now cole, in aircraft, to what this the shoulders, invention to the umbrella and the emperor assigned to the man in order these execution. because you and pro realized you wouldn't be able to manage this. i mentioned um, if you wrote recently that, that suggesting of rush would become a normal country. as the 1st post soviet administer for relations, one state is as ridiculous a suggestion of bribes. the talented persons become, become an average. joe, who eats, sleeps and water is little about any of the rays of creation are new. so that if we

take a look at china, which also define as a worldly, historical civilization is upset. but one thing it has made great efforts is to help its people to me and people in other countries which have a decent quality of life, what the best for us 3 desktops. and of course, i don't think the chinese culture piece, dignity against, well, for these 2 things around the scene is complimentary. it doesn't rusher really need to see. well, that's something that contradicts its unique identity list. you know, i think this opposition is very harmful, was that i can also close mom a lot of from dusty escape me a lot of us bullets. he's not advice cancer, but bigger is to look at that stall. so we must draw up on the soviet experience and raise the lower classes to a decent level of existence with task in which we usually use like decent material level of existence, new material, and the best. if i look further impulse methods,

i recently found out, you know, as a reach us people the very top to spend their money maybe as an issue, but it's all kinds of nonsense for sure. you don't do. not in those jolts you travel to put your fist if there's a trivial people that of course they should not be happening. you're talking eastern goals, they should be no deficit of course, thought was on which was for the other things that you may be. i am an a person in the initial cust. uh, think that people should be educated in such a way that they can at least ask themselves, have all the necessary things you choose. so i can send my child to kindergarten that i have the money to hire a babysitter, but with my wife and i can go on vacation here and there i'm getting a shift. so do i really, really need anything else with those that are, should distinguish between the standard of living and quality of life? even the standard of living is obviously determined by how much money you have with them. cuz choosing us for quality of life, it depends on how much time do you have to spend at your own discretions. we will

police where the and you go to a certain level of an increase in the standard of living for you. the leads to an increase in the quality of life from another student, even less time to provide that for everyone more or less self contained, except maybe 10 percent who are genetically and capable of productive work. who will always have that level because people are different. now that so then we must explain to everyone that they can increase the standard of living. so does it cost? no, gosh, the quality of life will either freeze or pour go down. so the richest people spend huge money on ties, you'll tend to like the key only in russia, but the most to where you can expect to find remnants of the new will reach mentality of the ninety's but everywhere. and it's absurd. yeah, we're almost out of time venture the, which i'd like to us. one last question, among many cultures, who thought of that, how they claim to be civilized ation doesn't make a distinction between doing and be in good shape and being is not the same as

having a high quality of life. the reward is something else, but maybe i find that fascinating thought, i think it's one of those things like subordinate me suction audit can be hard to explain to west in person. that was, what do you think is the difference between having a high quality of life and being the custom in the high quality of life? the reason for my definitions is evans unnecessary conditions. i know you mentioned in terms of the number of hours available in the week, the worst of all taking being which is which is because i trusted for i would say to be conscious of your existence, my wife and paul take in the transcendent. and it's just, those things don't seem of if you're orthodox means one thing, if you're boldest, that means another. if you're a stoic meeting or a know perhaps most, it's something else. but without said, you're essentially so monday in person, we should start on some bound to this world to start on. yes,

it's just the 180 have some brain. you will feel however vaguely when we start such a mundane, existence is absolutely meaningless. absolutely distinguish. okay, so this reminds me of some because sure. suppose you kind of make sense that we have so many is only movies today for zombies, people or human like creatures that woke and eat. they're not really touched with life. but anyway, this has been very interesting, but it's time to wrap it up. thank you so much for coming. thank you for the conversation. well, that's all we have time for. thank you for watching. i hope to see her again. and it was a part of the

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