to the table summit for countries wanting to join a you, but not considered good enough to make it official with them you creating present environments. zalinski said that he wanted the you to go bang on trends and history is door as though he didn't have enough of his own problems. he had to just go start more for the you, which doesn't have enough problems of its own already. i guess zalinski said that you crane was willing to help fight the russian peacekeeping troops in transmission area. but we need a request for most of the various and journalists from your own. my don press also chimed in shortly. there after, after zalinski is remarks with a suggestion that most of us came up with ukraine to invade trends in history a and take the russian peacekeepers there to use as bargaining chips. it is a peaceful resolution is not possible, most of them i then consider where you create a military intervention and establish a joint defense treaty. if you play were to pretend to his mistress 1500 russian

soldiers that could become a valuable asset to your queen's prison or exchange program while neutralizing the russians threat in the region. 12 that sounds like a great slot for us don't are movie to buy these ukraine in moldova. crazy kids get stoned out into their minds and decide to go pick a fight with some russian troops and take them hostage. now hollywood might think that that's just to, i'm realistic, but washington sure, sounds interested. mold only is in that dangerous zone. maybe even more so than or i would say probably more so than the baltic country countries and in poland. hey, of sounds like they're going to need a lot of weapons. imagine that. how did surprise for washington know twice is too stupid or too reckless to be par, laid into a business opportunity for its military industrial complex tuesday above way. now where the incumbent leader has been announced as the winner of the presidential,

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several being major oil producers and members of opec. additionally, those bricks countries are increasing trade and national currencies and not the dollar. i mean, could that be a petrow you want in the future for now over to our chat with the russian ambassador to south africa and the sioux to you leo. gotcha was summed up the results of this historic bridgestone, the hello investigator. thank you so very much for making time to sit with us today. we're different on the thanks for having me. of course. as you know, the 15th annual break summit just wrapped up here in johannesburg. um, how is it being seen by boat, south africa and russia? um, well it's, it's a big event. obviously, of course, um it will be more better visible from some distance. but so, so i'm,

i'm sort of cautious to employ some big awards right now. like if there's a historic event, but to minutes, personal rated use of them in describing their results. but anyway, it's, it's a big achievement. i think that it is a very important for the development of the brakes and multiple are worlds in general. and i am proud to be part of the time proud to be part of the group that participates in based on the russian side of the bridge has left my portfolio with my responsibility. but nevertheless, and um, i would like to use this opportunity to congratulate our salsa for community partners and friends because they did it. and uh, the substance will be assessed perhaps later on. i'm not certain whether i can foretell that to the works. history will be divided into a pretty your hands were your with them after and your hands were periods with the

certainly it is a very important event. uh and uh they, they, they did well. they quote uh very well with it. it was very well organized uh, on the sub central side. there's a very important, obviously, yes. and on the 3rd day and finally day, a big announcement was made. we're 6 countries now will be enjoying a full membership of the block. um, what is your take on that? well, i think that it is the retailing especially in the circumstances when uh, uh, were western non partners uh the. ready had so many efforts to know to to diminish the significance of the attendance of this uh, summit uh until they try to lower more countries to, to their side. and then to the,

basically they will act according to the logic that was announced by president george bush or junior, i think some 20 years ago when she said that it's either you're with us or you're against us. and so that was at that time in connection with the international preparation and fighting terrorism. but later on the sound there was some was spread to other areas of international relations interest state relations . and more than more, the 1st of all security areas, but then other fields uh, where were covered by that approach. and the, to the extent that i think, cuz i know it is, it is very difficult to remain in neutral state to remain on the line state because there is less than the less breathing space for such countries

and of the situation around. the korean shows that, um, so under such a pressure and under such circumstances, disability billing that many countries choose to drawing breaks. and yes, 6 countries where i can meet those members. but i know the number of other, uh, uh, this is sort of announced. they are a desire their will to you in bricks to become a part of bricks in a one way or another. so. ready the list of candidates didn't become shorter, right? and again, it's not to just uh, the oldest advantages and benefits from contributing with bricks, countries from being a bricks member. but also i think that of the, this western policy of either your, with us or against us has played

a negative role for the west themselves for the westerners. and it does that. there's also certainly one of the sectors which is important diplomatically. yes, and what makes you think of the brick block is so attractive to most importantly, the global files. and because you are the ambassador to south africa, the continent, because a lot of countries express, they'd grievances against the western counterpart, saying that they no longer want to be told what to do. so what makes the bricks attractive? fuller? so some advantages are, are pretty old, this, i think, and it is that we respect each other. we treat each other as equals. we respect the sober and turn them us in silver and decisions to that. take uh, breaks uh, members and um,

as approvals that decisions as they can by consensus within brooks, there are no 9 genius for him. it was like a consensus minus one minus the one. so as we are different, our interests are different, but we thrive in douglas diversity and we english each other. we don't want to march up to, you know, what you, that is a per you somewhere across the ocean. and you know, there is no such, you're such a discipline and then we don't try to impose on each other while we're on interest and you know, try to impose some common values and so on and so forth. we, we agree we negotiate. if there are differences and uh we come to, to, to, to toy agreement. and, you know, throughout the week we have been,

especially in the past 3 days, we have been interviewing a lot of political analysis and, and politicians from across the continent. and they all had one thing to say that they believed with this 6 additional countries. bricks may have brokered piece in a case, to change it to a political places. what is your thought on that? um, well i, i, you know, it's, it's good to assess the brakes expansion and relationship with the rest of the world world uh, through the slams of that everybody would benefit from it. because otherwise, we have to accept that it will inevitably use the mentality of those who view it from a sting point of view that it is a threat from the standpoint of view of the a 0 sum game. and this is not the case this month. the case,

hopefully everyone will benefit from the book suspension, especially those will participate on the to become members who are brooks partners or and in particular, and then they get rid of security. i think there are over this advantages of customer rating with the brakes as no political strings, no conditions are attached to military cut, the russian military technical cooperation within bricks. but otherwise, uh it we know what, who no way we should uh assess it from the standpoint of your that if somebody gains when we are losing. um and uh well this is the mentality of those. uh, my whole seat of a threat to basically and it is not a threat. breaks is my has my indian colleagues said brooks is not the entry westbrooks as normal west. so there is no threat them to only advantages for

everyone. and with that summit being hosted by south south africa, how does that suggest and the relationship between russia and south africa, what both our countries touched very no such direct importance due to the brakes uh, entity as a group of states, it is very informal, as you know so far there are no charters, so you know, founding documents, especially there is no, no secretariat, which would be a regular feature of an international organization. um, but uh, brakes you. ready as a very important role internally here in south africa. uh will, i would, will be in a better position to compare how works the street that's internally in russia and then south africa next year when the russian will assume president seeing the some

of these group to. but um, the south africans has proved that, uh, the tickets are really seriously. um, you know, they respect the breeching ever. it gets future and desperate including um, uh all the comic sign and um they really work through a re cards in order to to prepare the assignments on to have them. as they say mor bang from from a buck. and it was very well prepared just and want one of the many key points that were discussed doing both the bricks, investment for him and followed by the summit, is the need for both industrialization and scaling of emphasis structures. and as you very well know that south africa's struggles with power supply i, russian companies interested in coming to help south africa solve that problem.

well, i know that, oh, there are russian companies that have all of the need of tools and ingredients to all of a, to these this problem to solve this problem and how they shuffle competence is they, they are, they are strong financially and the, uh they, they have the needed technologies in different areas a so um, uh, a soft separate comes decides that they would like to use uh, the, these, these are russian companies in solving the problem of, uh, energy supply, energy generation. you know, they, they, they may just do it. and one of the many things that was emphasized by the south african businessman doing the brakes investment for him is that they are looking for investors and they need access to investors. how often do they come and

approach the russian embassy and how do you manage to connect them and solve their issues of the connectivity with potential investors that could come in, invest in different sectors here. what we're doing or best uh we're, we're trying as hard as we possibly can. but there are very many people that come with different ideas to the embassy. but i would like to point out also that there is a russian trade. the mission and your highness work, but this will step to, well, they are whole professionals and they are all the economists. uh, so we try to find out what exactly can be attractive to, to the russian business. because of course, the purpose of the businesses to make some money. um otherwise business

organizations will become something else. uh no, um. we try to find um if, well, no, not old projects, of course. are um developed to, to, to a certain degree. when we come over to speak about investors and uh, you know, like a 1st phase of implementing it. but um or we tried to connect people. i would try to identify exactly technologist or competence is that are needed in a lease or that to particular case that can be useful in the conditions or specific conditions of self africa. and uh, we try to find uh such a company in the russia and still connect them. uh the, this is basically what we can do, what we can help. everything else is so far above our heads. and, you know,

during the summit, a lot of the, the heads of states. thank you. speeches, appreciated russians role in helping them with their independence. the south africa is one as well. how do you, how is russia perceived in the south african society? and do you find those perceptions to be positive? i definitely do. yes, uh, in very many cases of my just having presented themselves to people start talking about our common history. and it is a really inspiring that so many people have it so, so, so up in their minds you know that uh they, they tell us about a different work, the different stories episodes and their struggle against the foresight themselves with their parents. there are great parents now, great,

great grandparents and then so i, and i think that's the basis of the main feature. how russia is identified in seeing here is that this, that this is lisa association with the not so distant a history when they use a sar helped a lot wrote in different terms. uh, the, the colonization struggle on the african continent in general, but also helped assist with national liberation movements in the, in southern africa and the struggle against the part of it here. and people do remember that they refer to, to, to this periods. and uh mean you know about the names of the 67. so an associate of military counselors who are on the

i will look names in the morning and spark here in pretoria and so on. and so they, they remember what they think of russia is of continuing states of the ussr. and, and this is the right thing. this is the right way because there is a particular aspect of that as well. now, whenever uh, there is an event when people speak about assistance by the use of soaring that struggle. sometimes there is, uh, you know, i should hoping from from behind the scenes saying, but what the remember ukrainian was also helped to ukraine was part of the ussr. so, use self. africans should also be grateful to we do the premiums as they are, were part of these systems and so on. now i have to explain that

in the last years, as there are, there was a campaign in ukraine and they completely renounced of their soviet fast. the companions were this organization, the communion nation, their association. so now that inbound the russians image here in south africa and what so russia means the south african anyway, what was the, this is, this is, this is going on. what could share with picking you don't rush up the different particular other. so if you have debts and the to cost quite some time and efforts and assistance of material assistance that was provided to the national, the directions and others were spark. perhaps of that. what was most enrollment? not til the economic difficulties that use assessor. right. so uh,

ukrainians renounced, but they were not being office that we did. and now you know that they try to sort of jump on and off with them to watch them. and uh, this is simply moral, it's, it's, it's either your, your, your soviet bust as low risk for it's the other page of your story. the international pro, unless it must, is glorious. you have to decide because you can look the big pick up from both sides and combined. we know leading up to the brick summit, that the west was pressuring south africa in a lot of different ways in that hosting they, uh, the summit itself. and if president vladimir putin was to be present for a south africa to exercise is obligatory to the i c. c. can you elaborate on why the united states is just really pressuring countries like

south africa to, you know, to create functions between russia and not, not, and not have this relationship that is just organically foraging forward? well, uh, well i can guess. uh and uh, i will have to go back to work, settle ready. uh that, uh, their mentality uh, works uh on in terms of the 0 sum game. and uh, no, the improving relationship uh between some of their partners they see as a negatively as a threat to them. uh, which is more of the case, at least with us in south africans because it does not. uh, we are not for style where not threatening us, uh, south africa is not a threat to the us inflows or dies between our countries is not a threat to the us. but, but to this, this is, you know, 11 of the,

if there's also 11 this 0 sum of mentality, again, is, or the, you know, while the summit with unfolding and progressing successfully. the you uh, the united states made the statement saying that it does not view brakes as a geo political rival. how much do you think we can trust the words of american politician given that they've never delivered the problem, is this to the global south? well, i'm not inclined to trust american politicians, but in this particular case, i can see the following, that it is a very characteristic and repetitive feature. when the western positions accused others of doing exactly what they are doing themselves.

so uh it should be seeing like a what vice versa. no more than 660 years have passed since the adoption of the declaration on the granting of independence to the co and you countries and people. but we see that west and space are having a hard time letting that go, and in that is so evident through the neo colonial policies that they impose on countries like south africa and across the continent as well as the global. so why are they having such a hard time letting go? and just letting these countries have their full independence while it does because they like they're, they're pushed, they like it for about 500 years. they have been the show established on that maintaining this,

this uh world border uh, rules based world order. according to the who was the bishop invented. busy and imposed on others, which was primarily, uh, the, uh, re distribution of the world wills in their favor. and uh, initially it was just, you know, physical or displacement of some commodities. gold uh, caught them. i don't know. what time were you taking the timber from uh, calling us and then that was the slave trade. them, there were other colonial practices, very well known and know you were, we were in the era of some neo colonial practices. and if, if you will say that this is so evident, i think that now,

although i think that it is even more evident if you look at it in the historic, right, right. right. but it's respectively the uh, old lease, neo colonial practice breakfast. as of the are still about the same um moving uh world product were distributing it fever all for the western countries. and uh for almost whole projects of that are no, no, no proposed in the area of energy and technology cool development and so on. uh, they have the least an element of, uh, these policies and uh so such things like, uh, energy transition, uh, i think should be viewed very, very carefully by congress to whom they are addressed. well, ambassador, thank you so very much for making time. it's been

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