[000:00:00;00] the, the, the hello, welcome to wells, a part in this new foreign policy concept signed into law the spring. russia for the 1st time officially defined itself as a distinct country civilization, but its own set of values and its own articulated vision of the world. and the

relation of different nations. what does it mean for the waiting most co positions itself on the international stage, and perhaps even more important to me, how it goes about building its own life here at home. i'll discuss it. i'm now and join bar on the pretty bulk one of russia's most, to renounce colors of the east, and a senior searcher with the peoples friendship, university of russia. expressing bye, thank you so much for your time. i'm happy to talk and answer your questions. and let's start with the concepts i mentioned pick up our which has given rise to many discussions and russia about what a civilization is and how it is different from a country that section. and then we have our just so we're working primarily with english speaking audiences. someone had a lot of trouble coming up with a good english word for some of with me, the problem because it can mean unique, unique, distinct, and exceptional. and what have you. so sufficient, what does that you go? another option?

what's your understanding of this idea from up with the civilization self sufficiency? no is rooted within a particular characteristics who are totally into the control of the cultural and intellectual leads of the country. yeah, i thought certainly was which then and it kind of ripple effect of propagation across the rest of the book relation. when the city a new media position is less involved in higher cultural endeavors, include education management, etc, that with them. but in this regard rusher would like to be self sufficient, and i think it has a good chance of achieving this goal. so you have this top down idea of a self sufficient civilization. however, russian lives have changed dramatically over the past few centuries. will the countries easiest in craddick self sufficiency? how's the theory remain the same? then you might to use just say, if something was established to cold, say at the end of the must go roost area to cuba and as soon as 10 such

a major top down revolution the roll, the whole, i'm pretty little to see. oh, cool, cool, cool. what was the dates of a great tried to accomplish, let up, you know, as old habits come back to those patterns just called disappear, new, or put in a style. let me explain one aspect of this concept. would that mean? what would you, if you mobile patient needs go to opposite types of deletes and with the coy cobra and sold a diary below? no, no, could i and these cheap of cut, but you need best example of a corporate slate is the british or they charge shipping the products you nearly take a lead time when you look at these people united by a shared educational background where i am strong but somewhat psycho past, so logical use them. so don't think the generalized version of eating college and you still couldn't care less about the countries people that they work to benefit each other to protect their own privilege, to be able to guess all those white masters. let's just look at houses. what masters tweeted for english sailors. i was going forward. a best example of

a society was sold into relates, which is the opposite type. is china because it a couple things to consist in ism of slot back in the times of pizza. the great, what tools could solar to relate was beginning to form in our country. so let's make these clear. for all viewers, we're talking about officials who genuinely care about the people's interest. yes, however, in the heat, it may sounds just that these are please shoulders and legend states most do not see themselves as much different from the rest. and so there is the ritual, as well as a bureaucratic aspect, of course, move default to the great rush as a lead included top clergy, but you definitely so think on yourself and most definitely it was an example of a solid area that is just a little unclear as the anglo saxons, and especially that americans been raised in the spirit of calvinism or puritanism, which essentially broken the christian tradition by the way, divides people into the chosen ones and the rest were not chosen. and yet it's not just that they're not chosen to turn to use is rep probate 1st,

which means forever allen, a godforsaken, those who have new hope and whose only purpose in life is to serve the elect, couldn't certainly, but that's not what we have here. what circling back to some, a business to a self sufficiency, american concept of exceptionalism also includes this idea of being unique. how was russian some, a business different from american exceptionalism? yeah, doing what you guys think russia any wrong use that something in common in this regard at least partially expresses. this tree includes a successful attempt at creating an expanding spiritual, continue using via video to city, as opposed to the empire as built by the anglo saxons, the french, and so on. she's on what, which meant, colonizing overseas territories, fox, who, the contiguous empire, e, which means communication, but then it's bold as easy as the border did not insight

a desire to subjugate and crush concord people's nicole as to meaning you did each, although sadly such instances also took place, but it was nowhere near the scale evident in the envelope sykes and spanish portuguese and pause. and so that was that well, but not much for moving you to response. if you put 2 guys of what even though it was that the results of byzantine influence, because the eastern roman empire operated on the same principles, thinking that repression was counter productive. that it was easier to assimilate and use subjects on negotiated compromise with them to go to an extent. yes most let's go though. one might argue that with the follow up with these on time in par, to here is emerged. but most of the 2nd there was the ultimate and bar she has to do is go to the oldest bureaucratic systems of governments from the greeks. where else could they get them going to send the sultan's greek subjects 7th cold in by the last? what the many observers have remarked upon russia's uniqueness over this century's

skilful carpet. it seems to me that many russians viewed as a sign of inferiority or deficiency chips, famous lines to russia, cannot be known by the mind, no measured by the common measure. you know, how you can only believe in russia are often quoted with the beat of his smoke. well, with a beat of condescension or self deprecation lashing fox, i, and so why do you think is that can with us as are you? do i think it has to do with the negative side of the russian traditions of government? really new people who make russia in all seriousness. and this may have and you can be serious about milk or you can be sincere, are most likely, but still without the concept. yes, small current concept that 2 different things, most likely. there are people who would like to contribute to the development of the lens to explain what about the field that they are not allowed to, but then it if given a chance that would stop motion, i chose to so 90 percent unit, i was able to be doing productive,

uninspiring work. you cause it. so i think this is a clash between passions of old solidarity solutions. are they inherited from the design to an empire in australia and even from china? i chose to present to you. it's just the kind of corporate top players superimposed and paused by piece of the grades and then paused by catherine the 2nd. just use the so the, when the empress grants are those freedoms to the nobility, she created a corporate elite for funding for products. even if there was also the post solve your period to. and we were happy to embrace that mentality in the last lives that was the latest stage, those a one to this and braced it. but the majority of people were simply confused. if you have listed many different incidences under russia, there's a fundamental principle in psychology which says that you cannot be fully mature and grow as a person. if you don't accept yourself as a whole, without judging yourself too much about who can sing clear the stage,

know where we can begin to accept our sales and our past and bring it in. i was still just responding to the west reaction, so they're turning away from us now. well then we'll turn away from them through a certain extent. we are responding to the west reaction. yup. at the same time, we haven't yet decided which parts of the history to choose as a point of reference to put in which the sun prefer the soviet union to others prefer the russian empire of summer than thinking about russia before each of the great new me the results good. let's face things needs to be harmonized. they should be an understanding of the common thread. we're still could we buy new and i believe that's what fluctuations in the approaches to building the leads and the methods of the leads education and upbringing. is it with all the main site to those issues and should be looked into what you've written. that's what defines it . civilization as opposed to country is not just formulating but leaving its values in the flesh and uses them to establish the civilizations unique way of life and

broad. a world view here. based on these approach, what's less ation size in the world with the internet oaks used to 3 or 4 main civilizations at the unfortunately follows from my theory. the far eastern civilization has trying that it's cool, but also includes korea vietnam, especially moles vietnam in japan. yeah. and maybe something else that you use and we have the south asian satellite station centered around india currently includes in the ball. and so a lanka ship and used to include most of indo china. it's the shape of sourcing because you're still sell to a certain extent and indonesia. what do you want me to spend? we have the middle eastern civilization, of which there are 2 versions of the bigot pulse includes the arabic world and jewish culture, which is quite similar to them. but it consists of just one that's nice, that's a human. they're organized in similar ways though. any wrong either. okay, and lastly, we have the western civilization if i could, if it was, but which also includes us, but as at least 3 different versions used by me and what, what did anybody on top?

there's the mainland european version globally, even a piece key will tend the intercooler, anglo saxon version, we go so close for more than a century. they have not consider themselves europeans to be able to peace and their right. even though they do only when it's huge, that goes yes. on the americans comp, really consider themselves to be your opinions. and then there is cause you, can you originally even our version these the also adults version of course, the annotated and pro slow. nobody on police tells you to at the same time, was if you look at our resources for so we're similar to china because chinese once huge countries, even though surrounded by country is influenced by its culture. she said, i think what we thought it was, we are a huge country surrounded by people that used to until recently or still share our faith was the in the for example, georgians, the bulgarians, romanians,

the greeks serves etc. no. then it's noticeable. see at this patterns of how these people see themselves. so what's the value is they have keep a patriot being in spite of frequent betrayals by the lead switch happens both here and there. there's still this feeling of kinship. so am i get you this right? so it's really kind of a hybrid civilization that can boost, adaptable, ended comment, died and also creates something unique. it's difficult, i'd say not really hybrid like europeans. we are a version of it's hard time. we sped up our development. it's sort of the website, but mostly because the most of the time we have been to the referral version for me, it's not hard to see why really frustrated, cold, less means doesn't have a large population. also plus product is lower nationwide. and so we don't have that much to offer to the leads so that they can develop various forms of culture and with this but still when we decided to how to go it, it's in earnest. good. just look at the results. we can easily consider mathematics and music to be the highest achievements of european culture, although many will disagree with me. here. e. o, scott,

both the russian mathematical school in russian music are truly extraordinary, where a 2nd to none is here. according to what i mean yet, but we have to take a very short break right now, but we'll be back in just a few moments sentient, the american voters are rarely interested in for policy during election cycles. said the issue between maybe the exception this time around, particularly among t o p voters much of the republican base as our w brain policy. they see it as bindings for the the,

the, the, the the welcome back to was a part with the day putting bulk one of process, most renowned colors of the east and the senior research or when the people's friendship university of russia. underneath there was mr. perry bulk, in the 1st part of the program,

we discussed the diversity of civilization. so you read it, almost all of them emerge during the so called actual age. where were you able to use a term coined by coal, jasper's whom you admire that of if a premium, we're talking about a period of 2500 years ago, you would take 2 full centuries. i'm curious to know what's in your opinion, makes to me ro, an axial age. and could we be currently living through one foot bureau? it's no more what i think makes it an actual age is the crisis of what i would call by battery. and as a ship, i should put aside this is my usage of the term, or you could mean something different from a child that also is called the buyer and is specifically see by them. there are too many different professions to many people. and some of the greater wealth due to natural growth will stop in the old forms of social organization or some sort of it, which has to be mostly based on family ties were no longer effective. postpone them

really close enough people no longer perceived each other naturally as legitimate human beings. what do you mind? don't, don't get pulled up. so maybe what do you do is nonsense which appear on the. i'm not going to allow my daughter to marry your son if i think that your work is nonsensical, eat the rest from different cultures, or rather, to free civilizational, but quite advanced societies. i was with this plus the options to came up with different solutions for cementing the cultural integrity. queued with quinn totally enhanced, but it's a mostly talking about the acknowledgment of the value of each of those mines scales and so on. without that to cut even share it religions probably took me to do that. so it came to pass that in the west. what cemented society i was thinking together to mean to we shouldn't push up to something that the greeks called logos . and then it's a little ratio reason to uh, what i was getting to it was up sedation, 1st homes for a very complex and symbolic rachel's really about the widow. but the website is

that it's been a while, but so you choose, we certainly leaned into a very acute powers of observation, much of the e. you've got a piece, an important european. and then the european elite is the thinking man. in the middle east, it was still contained together is also important to what you buy from the mess has more than the contents of your thinking, which is the role of the person who expresses the judgment through it. the whole story which goes away to the source of us all law who the middle east and gold company, not all the gold of the jews as someone whose judgment feasel deal within the form of revelations is absolute authority and cannot be challenged. the purely european structure manages without such a golden that'll go to thinking like, and the rest of those works. this brings me a right to my next question, was that you claim that an advantage or a unique feature of russia is subordinates by his sense of spiritual community for the state of inactive thinking. together to this is an even hard a concept to express in english. really,

maybe you could explain it in more acceptable terms. and most importantly, what does it give us? the bill i recently read a colleagues article where he's argues that the word subordinate was coined in the russian translation of his level file out of scope. originally written in french. that's sort of, i don't know what the original french word was. maybe come on your team, you definitely know community. i don't know for sure. i forget. still 30 see the civilizational solution worked out in russia, which we can call subordinate with a face is, in my opinion as follows, gentlemen, i'm with a couple of thoughts on those thinking. cool. we see leads, that understands you develops and supports the ideas of a civilization, right. but usually it's mostly done. it typically is, i'd say other people are involved as well. actually a logically and emotionally completed so many of whom are incapable of independence, thoughts move, you coupling your special but who can relate to the values reflect invest,

thinking, coupled as i'd say that mostly in your what? 3. so in the traditional version, the russian civilization before the modem era, there that kind of gives me this phenomenon was represented by the literature out in the position i am a sudden yesterday that is regular joint practice, encouraged and motivated people to perceive each other as kindred beings for the next couple weeks, but am very interested in young's deb psychology ask which in essence studies the collective unconscious, what religion calls god the source of energy. and just for some reason why it's a ball going through a, i mean, i think that in this respect, i assume that russia means more towards the collective, unconscious photo connectivity the way and besides, i know in these, every individual so was invested in the big collective psyche of the west, on the other hand, is more individualistic. it is a bit of for us to paraphrase nature,

god is constantly being eliminated. so the collective aspect is removed. we'll do well if we can only agreeing pulse from the belief. if we talk about the essence of godes cox, it is definitely not, i'm conscious of bucks more useful, but it is super conscious that the can use the 3 of those and not to the screen. so i might have to write or trans personal to something that's bigger than human nature was bigger than the individual postpone core. if i'd like to share my personal opinion and see what you think for the customer, i believe that any ideology, any civilization that changes in humans or the consciousness is due to the process . because the human mind simply comp handle this massive burden in uh, got a tiny script, the human mind is incapable of existing, incomplete disregard of that on a washer. and minister this name is access. i was not able to access the but this was an attribute of the soviet project. well,

my question is about the western civilization, but it was kaiser you see the rejects these aspects of lots and i wouldn't be able to go through a transformation without crashing and with the soviet union scenario you had to move in yet? no, i don't think so. difficult, i would even say definitely not the it's of cousin for this crash because the limits of all even from the demographic standpoint is the child pray, philosophy, as well as other tense adults are natural, biology and impede essential rep production will lead to elimination. the love shape more generally. these trend dualism towards individual isn't that most of will always go into turn. what used to be a society can re sheets into groups of light charges that repel each other just when you move, just know that there will be no society basically. and i guess these benefits some malicious center,

malicious corporate delete that wants to control everyone else. that's what i think it basically, it's about consciously turning people into some unconsciousness which can be easily controlled. yes. those who want to do so, and there are definitely such people around are consistently story consciously built in the system. once he says you want us made this very interesting point. the western civilizations definition of progress differs greatly from the way all the civilizations understand it. could you elaborate more than that, please? what was happening? well, the western civilization is diverse, which did we spend almost 2 centuries ago. hazelton made fun of the idea of incident progress, both quantitative and qualitative. for some reason, especially in the american way of thinking, there must be more of everything or everything should be, must produced. when asked why the advocates of such values usually find themselves nonplussed, goes on who would have thought of another very until the progress of sales represented by the us to solve the problem is a good variance. it's not a complete one,

which was not helping out nourishing the upper parts of the population. the most developed the most talented, the most persistent, one, mcgruther in pulling up the lower parts are new space and the use associates colossal results in that. so either way, but the best way would be to combine the 2 approaches progress the way it is seen by the indian civilization or chinese or a pro agents are less ation is not expressed as vividly. and it's doubtful that they can be directly translated. sorry for jump in in the testing of those cultures and civilizations, you mentioned also have this very explicit idea of balance and understanding the too much of an a thing is it has a burden too much of and if it is not good as it can be, a distraction from things that are more important and valuable. yeah, of course. so any over development is dangerous. there's an old chinese tory story about a man who invented something that, you know, colon aircraft to what this the showed his invention to the emperor and the emperor

assigned to the man in order these execution. because you then pro realized you wouldn't be able to manage this invention if you wrote recently that, that suggesting of russia become a normal country. as the 1st post soviet administer for relations, one state is as ridiculous as suggesting a brightly talented person becoming becoming a bridge. do you eat, sleeps and water is little about any raise of creation. are you so that if we take a look at china, which also define as a worldly, historical civilization is upset. but one thing it has made great efforts is to help its people to me and people in other countries which have a decent quality of life. mean what the best for us 3 desktops and of course i don't think chinese culture piece, dignity against well, for these 2 things around the scene is complimentary. it doesn't rusher really need to see. well,

that's something that contradicts its unique identity list. you know, i think this opposition is very harmful, was that i can also close mom a lot of from dusty escape me a leather was bullets, he's not advice, cancer, but bigger is to look at that stall. so we must draw up on the soviet experience and raise the lower classes to a decent level of existence with task in which i'm usually a slight decent material level of existence, new material and invest. if i look further is the best methods i recently found out of lead, you know, as a reach us people, the very top, spend their money. i maybe have some issues but, and it's all kinds of nonsense for sure. you don't do not in those jolts you travel to put your fist if there's a trivial people that of course they should not be happening. it will conditions those they should be no deficit of course, thought was on, which was for the other things that you may be. i am an a person in the initial cust. uh think that people should be educated in such a way that they can at least ask themselves,

have all the necessary things you choose. so i can send my child to kindergarten. i have the money to hire a babysitter. but with my wife and i can go on vacation here and there i'm getting a shift. so do i really, really need anything else with those that are, should distinguish between the standard of living and quality of life. even the standard of living is obviously determined by how much money you have with them. cuz choosing us for quality of life, it depends on how much time do you have to spend at your own discretions. we will police where the and you stick with the, to a certain level of an increase in the standard of living for you. the leads to an increase in the quality of life from another student who must time to provide that for everyone more or less sense of control except maybe 10 percent who are genetically and capable of productive work. who will always have that level because people are different now the so then the must explain to everyone that they can increase the standard of living. so does it cost? no gosh, the quality of life will either freeze or pour go down. so the richest people spend

huge money on ties, your tend to like the key only in russia, but almost where you could expect to find remnants of the novel research mentality of the ninety's but everywhere. and it's absurd. yeah, we're almost out of time the country for which i'd like to us. one last question along many cultures. who thought of that, how they claim to be civilized ation. if it doesn't make a distinction between doing and be in the tip and being is not the same as having a high quality of life. the reward is something else. but maybe i find that fascinating. i thought, i think it's one of those things like subordinate me suction audit can be hard to explain to west in person. that was, what do you think is the difference between having a high quality of life and being the custom in the high quality of life. the reason for my definitions is evans and necessary conditions on those emotions. in terms of

the number of hours available in the week that the worst of all taking being which a which is because i trusted for i would say to be conscious of your existence, my wife and paul take in the transcendent, it's just those things you incentive if you're also dogs, that means one thing. if your brothers that means another. if you're a stoic meeting or a know perhaps most, it's something else. but without said, you're essentially so monday in person, we should start on some bound to this world to start on. yes, it's just the way to have some brain. you will feel, however, vaguely we start such a mundane. existence is absolutely meaningless. upside, but the sooner the better. this reminds me of some because sure. suppose you kind of make sense that we have so many is only movies today. for zombies, a people or human lie, creatures that woke and eat. they're not really touch with life. but anyway, this has been very interesting, but it's time to wrap it up. thank you. so much for coming. thank you for the conversation. well,

that's all we have time for. thank you for watching. i hope to see her again. and it was a part of the,

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