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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to was a part in this new foreign policy concept signed into law the spring. russia for the 1st time officially defined itself as a distinct country civilization, but its own set of values and its own articulated vision of the world and the relations between nations. what does it mean from the way moscow positions itself on the international stage? and perhaps even more important me how it goes about building its own life. here at home, i'll discuss it. i'm now enjoying bar on the pretty bulk one of fresh us most to renounce colors of the east as a senior searcher with the people's friendship. university of russia. by st. bye.

thank you so much for your time when happy to talk and answer your questions. and let's start with the concepts i mentioned pick up of which has given rise to many discussions and russia about what a civilization is and how it is different from a country that section only just so we're working primarily with english speaking audiences from i've had a lot of trouble coming up with a good english word for some of with me because it's coming unique. me this thing, justin, exceptional. and what have you wouldn't have self sufficient. what does that you go in other option? what's your understanding of this idea from up with the civilization self sufficiency is rooted within the particular characteristics. we're totally in to look for the cultural and intellectual leads of the country. but yeah, i thought certainly was which then it kind of a ripple effect of propagation across the rest of the population. the shooting, you mean your position is less than bolt and higher. cultural endeavors include

education management, etc, to go with them. but in this regard rusher would like to be self sufficient, and i think that has a good chance of achieving this goal. so you have this top down idea of a self sufficient civilization. however, russian lives have changed dramatically over the past few centuries. will the countries either some craddick self sufficiency, how's the theory remain the same? then you might to use just say that something was established to cold, say at the end of the most coolest period tool cookie booth. and as soon as 10 such a major top down revolution, the roll, the whole, i'm pretty little to see who go, what was the beach of a great try to accomplish, let up you, those old habits come back story. those patterns just called disappear. the new or put in a style. let me explain one aspect of this concept. you could, i mean, what would you have? so yeah, we just need to go to the opposite types of deletes and with the coy cobra and sold

a diary below to move. bill clinton is cheap of that. but if you and the best example of a quote for it to lead is the british or they just shoot me an e mail. if you need to delete them for you to complete these people, united by a shared educational background where i am strong but somewhat psycho pathological use themselves think a generalized version of eating college or couldn't care less about the countries people that they work to benefit each other, to protect their own privilege, to be able to address all those white masters. let's just look at how those, what so sweet, adversely for english sailors. those can afford a best example of what society was sold and the relates, which is the opposite type, is china because it a couple things to consider. and as most slipped back in the times of pizza, the great tools consulted the relates was beginning to form and our country. so let's make these clear. for all viewers, we're talking about officials who genuinely care about the people's interest. yes, however, in the heat, it may sounds just that these officials bears and light and states most do not see themselves as much different from the rest. so there is the ritual, as well as

a bureaucratic aspect of course, move before the to the great with the rush is a lead included top clergy, but you're definitely so useful. and most definitely it was an example of a solid aerial. it is a little in a trailer as the anglo saxons and especially that americans. yes, within the raised, in the spirit of calvinism or puritanism, which essentially broken the christian tradition worksheet. but while they divide people into the chosen ones and the rest were not chosen, and yet it's not just that they're not chosen to turn they use is rep probate 1st. which means forever alienated godforsaken. those who have no hope and whose only purpose in life is to serve the elect. good, certainly, but that's not what we have here. what circling back to some, a business to a self sufficiency, american concept of exceptionalism also includes this idea of being unique. so how is russian some, a business different from american exceptionalism?

are you doing what you guys think russia and iran you said something in common in those regards? at least partially. expressions is tree includes a successful attempt at creating and expanding spears and continue using via video affiliate as opposed to the empire as built by the anglo saxons, the french, and so on. she's on what, which meant colonizing overseas territories, fox, who, the contiguous empire, e, which made communication, but then it's bold as easy a border did not insight a desire to subjugate and crush, conquered peoples. nicole stimulated, living, although sadly such instances also took place, but it was nowhere near the scale, evidently in the envelope sykes and spanish, portuguese and pause. and so that was that well, but not much for moving you to response. if you put 2 guys of what even though it was that the results of the byzantine influence, because the eastern roman empire operated on the same principles,

thinking that repression was counter productive. that it was easier to assimilate and use subjects on negotiated compromise with them to go to an extent. yes, most of us go though. one might argue that with the follow up with these on time in par, to here is emerged. but the most of the 2nd there was the ultimate and bar she has to do is go to the oldest bureaucratic systems of governments from the greeks. where else could they get them going to send the sultan's greek subjects and cold in by the last? what the many observers have remarked upon russia's uniqueness over this century's skilful carpet. it seems to me that many russians use as a sign of inferiority or deficiency flour. chips, famous lines to russia, cannot be known by the mind, no measures by the common measure. you know, how you can only believe in russia are often quoted with a bit of his smoke, with a beat of condescension or self deprecation lashing fox,

i. and so why do you think is that can with us who as are you do i think it has to do with the negative side of russian traditions of government probably knew people who mock russia in all seriousness. and this may have, and you can be serious about mccrae, you can be sincere. are most likely, but still without the concept. yes. small create concept that 2 different things. most likely. there are people who would like to contribute to the development of the lens to explain what feel that they're not allowed to. but it, if given the chance they would stop smoking a bit of control. so somebody doesn't need it cuz they want to be doing productive, uninspiring work. you cut of it. so i think this is a clash between passions of old solidarity solutions they inherited from the byzantine empire. and actually even from china, i chose to present to you, it's just the kind of corporate top layer superimposed and paused by beats of the grades and in pods like catherine the 2nd. can you just use the when the empress

grants are those freedoms to the nobility? she created a corporate elite for funding products, even though it was also the post, solve your period to where and we're happy to embrace that mentality and today of life is that was the later stage. that was a once it is embrace to it. but the majority of people who are simply confused, if you have listed many different incidences under russia, there is a fundamental principle in psychology which says that you cannot be fully mature but then grow as a person. if you don't accept yourself as a whole, without judging yourself too much, because same quarter of the stage now where we can begin to accept our sales and our past b, i was still just responding to the west reaction. so they're turning away from us now. well then we'll turn away from them through a certain extent. we are responding to the west reaction. you know, at the same time, we haven't yet decided which parts about history to choose as a point of reference to pretty much the sun prefer the soviet union to others, prefer the russian empire of summer. we've been thinking about russia before pizza . the great new me,

even though the physical skills these things need to be harmonized, there should be an understanding of the common thread. we're still calling by new and i believe that's what locations in the approaches to building the leads and the methods of the lead. subjugation and upbringing engine with all the main sectors, shields, and should be looked into what you've written. that's what defines that civilization as it pasted country is not just formulating but leaving its values in the flesh and uses them to establish the civilizations unique way of life. and broad, a world view based on these approach about what's legislation says in the world with internet, it's used to 3 or 4 main civilizations, unfortunately follows from my theory. the far eastern civilization has china. it's cool, but also includes korea vietnam, especially most vietnam in japan, and maybe something else that you use. and we have the south asian satellite

station centered around india currently includes in the ball. and so a lanka, and used to include most of indo china, it's the cheapest option because you're still sell to a certain extent and indonesia. what do you want me to spend? we have the middle eastern civilization of which there are 2 versions of the bigot pulse includes the arabic world and jewish culture, which is quite similar to the let. the consists of just one. that's nice, that's a human. they're organized in similar ways though, anywhere on either. okay, and lastly, we have the western civilization. it was but which also includes us but as at least 3 different versions used by me and what, what did anybody on top? there's the mainland european version globally, even a piece key will tend the insular anglo saxon version, we go sexual for more than a century. they have not consider themselves europeans to be able to peace and the right, even though they do only when it's huge. that goes yes. on the but the americans comp really consider themselves to be your opinions. and then there is us,

you can you originally even our version these the also adults version, of course they entertain them pretty much loan already on police deals from each to at the same time was if you look at our resources for so we're similar to china because chinese once huge countries, even though surrounded by countries be influenced by its culture. she said, i think it was too late. we are a huge country surrounded by people that used to until recently or still share our faith was in the, for example, georgians, the bulgarians, romanians, the greeks, the serbs, etc. you know, then it's noticeable. see at this patterns of how these people see themselves. so what's the value is they have keep a patriot being in spite of frequent betrayals by the lead switch happens both here and there. there's still this feeling of kinship. so am i getting this right? that's where it kind of a hybrid civilization that can boost, adaptable and accommodate tight, and also creates something unique. it's difficult more i'd say not really hybrid like europeans. we are

a version. it's hard time. we sped up our development to try to see what so, but mostly because the most of the time we have been the referral version. sonya, it's not hard to see why in the frustrated, cold left. mean, she doesn't have a large population. also plus product is lower mutual more so we don't have that much to offer to the leads so that they can develop various forms of culture with ya. dish. but still when we decided to how to go it, it's in earnest. good. just look at the results really easily, which i consider mathematics and music to be the highest achievements of european culture, although many will disagree with me. here. e. o scott, both the russian mathematical school and russian music are truly extraordinary. where a 2nd to none. here, according to what i mean yet, but we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just

a few moments extension the the, the welcome back to was a part with on the day putting bulk one of process, most renowned colors of the east and the senior research, or when the people's friendship, university, or freshman village, mr. perry bulk. in the 1st part of the program,

we discussed the diversity of civilization. so you read it. almost all of them emerge during the so called actual age where be able to use a term coined by called jasper's whom you admire that of if the premiums were talking about the period allows up 2500 to years ago. you would take 2 full centuries. i'm curious to know what's in your opinion, makes a me run an axial age. could we be currently living through one foot? we would only know more. what i think makes it an actual age is the crisis of what i would call by battery and is, should by trip to the side, this is my usage of the term. or you could mean something different from a child that also is called up by or, and is specifically see by them. there were too many different professions to many people. and some of the greater wealth due to natural growth will stop in the old forms of social organization, or some sort of which used to be mostly based on family ties were no longer

effective. postpone them with a girl and the people no longer perceived each other naturally as legitimate human beings. what do you mind? don't we'll do. we'll get pulled up. so maybe what do you do is nonsense, one of which appear on the. i'm not going to allow my daughter to marry your son if i think that your work is nonsensical. eat the last from different cultures, or rather, to free civilizational, but quite advanced societies. as with this, plus the option still came up with different solutions for cementing the cultural integrity to what's going totally useful. but it's mostly talking about the acknowledgment of the value of each of those mines scales and so on. without that to cut even share and religions probably took me to that. and so it came to pass that in the west. what cemented society it was thinking together community we shouldn't push up to something that the greeks called logos. and then it's a little ratio. reason, so oh, what i was getting to it was opposite ation 1st homes through

a very complex and symbolic rituals. what about the widow but the face of speech? good, well, so you should be saying this lee indians have very acute powers of observation. much in the e, you've got a piece, an important european and member of the european elite is the thinking man. in the middle east as was still contained together, is also important to us. what you buy from the mess is more than the content of your thinking, which is the role of the person who expresses the judgment through it. the more store which goes away to the source with us all law, me, lisa, and gold. all the gold of the jews, as someone who's judgment, jesus, even in the form of revelations, is absolute authority and cannot be challenged. the purely european structure manages without such a golden. that'll go to thinking like and the rest of those works. this brings me a right to my next question was that you claim that an advantage or a unique feature of russia is subordinates by his sense of spiritual community. but the state of inactive thinking together to this isn't even hard

a concept to express in english. we might be able to explain it in more acceptable terms. and most importantly, what does it give us? the bill i recently read a colleagues article where it is argues that the word subordinates was coined in the russian translation of his level fi, logical pieces, originally written in french. that's sort of, i don't know what the original french word was. you know, i'm just not maybe coming your team, you're definitely not community. i don't know for sure. i forget to do you see, the civilizational solution worked out in russia, which we can call subordinate with a face is in my opinion as follows. jasmine, with a couple of thoughts on those thinking. cool. we see leaks that understands you develops and supports the ideas of a civilization. right. but usually it's mostly done. the civil is i'd say, other people are involved as well. actually a logically and emotionally completed so many of whom are incapable of independence, thoughts move, you coupling your special but who can relate to the values, reflect invest, thinking,

coupled as i'd say that mostly in your what 3. so in the traditional version of the russian civilization before the modem era, there thought kind of this phenomenon was represented by the liturgy who down in the position i am a sudden yesterday that is regular joint practice, encouraged and motivated people to perceive each other as kindred beings for the next level, but am very interested in young's dep psychology which in essence studies the collective unconscious. what religion calls god and the rest of it. i think it was just for some reason why it's a ball going through a, i mean, i think that in this respect, i assume that russia means more towards the collective, unconscious photo clinic achieving the weight and it sounds like an organization. so in every individual, so was invested in the big collective psyche of the west. on the other hand is more individualistic, it is a bit of 5 to paraphrase nature,

god is constantly being eliminated. so the collective aspect is removed. we'll do well if we can only agreeing parts from the believe. if we talk about the essence of gods cox, it is definitely not. i'm conscious of bucks more useful, but it is super conscious that the can use the 3 of those. and like i said, i was pretty so i might have to write or trans personal for something that's bigger than human nature was bigger than the individual postpone. or if i'd like to share my personal opinion and see what you think you think of someone, i believe that any ideology, any civilization that changes in humans or the consciousness is due to both of them . because the human mind simply comp handle this massive burden. in uh got it so i skipped the human mind is incapable of existing, incomplete, disregard of that on a watch a minute and this name is access. i was not able to access the,

but this was an attribute of the soviet project. well, my question is about the western civilization was kaiser. you see it rejects these aspects. so i'd like to know i wouldn't be able to go through a transformation without crashing and for the soviet union scenario you had to move in yet. no, i don't think so. difficult, i would even say definitely not the it's of cousin for this crash, but it is inevitable even from the demographic standpoint. he's a child pre philosophy as well as other attempts to alter natural biology and impede essential rep production will lead to elimination. the love shape more generally. these trend dualism towards individual isn't that what's the will always go into turn? what used to be a society given sheets into groups of like charges that repel each other just when you moved. you know, let's hear that there will be no societies but, and i guess based benefits some malicious center,

malicious corporate delete that wants to control everyone else. that's what i think it. basically, it's about consciously turning people into some unconsciousness which can be easily controlled. you guess those who want to do so and there are definitely such people around are consistently story consciously built in the system. once he says human, it's made this very interesting point. a put another western civilizations definition of progress, but it can differs greatly from the way all the civilizations understand it. could you elaborate more than that, please? what was happening? well, the western civilization these diverse, which did we spend almost 2 centuries ago. hazelton made fun of the idea of incident progress, both quantitative and qualitative. for some reason, especially in the american way of thinking that must be more of ever seeing or everything should be most produced. when asked why the advocates of such values usually find themselves nonplussed, goes on. who would have thought of that other very until the progress of sales are represented by the us to solve for phone is a good variance, if not,

a complete one, which was not helping out nourishing the upper parts of the population. the most developed the most talented, the most persistent one, mcgruther in pulling up the lower parts or no speech and the use a solid should colossal results in that. so either way, but the best way would be to combine the 2 approaches progress the way it is seen by the indian civilization or chinese or a pro agents are less ation is not expressed as vividly. and it's doubtful that it can be directly translated. sorry for jump in in the timing of those cultures and civilizations, you mentioned also have this very explicit idea of balance and understanding the too much of an a thing is it has a burden too much of and if it is not good because it's kind of a distraction from things that are more important and valuable. yeah, of course. so any over development is dangerous. there's an old chinese story story about a man who invented something that, you know, colon aircraft to what the fluid showed his invention to the emperor and the

emperor assigned to the man in order these execution. because the pro realized you wouldn't be able to manage this invention. uh, you wrote recently that, that suggesting of russia become a normal country as the 1st post soviet administer for relations. one state is as ridiculous as suggesting a bright, so talented person become, become an average. joe, who eats, sleeps, and water is little about any of the rays of creation are new. so that if we take a look at china, which also define as a worldly, historical civilization is upset. but one thing it has made great efforts is to help its people to me and people in other countries which have a decent quality of life. what the best for us 3 desktops, and of course i don't think the chinese culture piece, dignity against well, for these 2 things, are all the seen. is complimentary news in it. it does rusher. really need to see.

wealth is something that contradicts its unique identity list. you know, i think the supposition is very harmful, the way that i can also close mom a lot of from dusty etzky me a leather was full, it's a, it's not a vice cons. so, but bigger res, to look at that still. also, we must draw up on the soviet experience and raise the lower classes to a decent level of existence with task you, which usually a slight decent material level of existence, new material. and the best thing for look further is the best methods i recently found out of lead, you know, as a reach us people the very top to spend their money. how many of you have some issues but, and it's all kinds of nonsense for sure. you don't do not in those jolts, you travel to put your fist if there's a trivial people. and of course this should not be happening. it will condition those, they should be no deficit. of course, thought what was on which was for the other things that you may be. i am an a person in the initial cust. uh think that people should be educated in such a way that they can at least ask themselves,

have all the necessary things you choose. so i can send my child to kindergarten. i have the money to hire a babysitter. but with my wife and i can go on vacation here and there i'm getting shift. so do i really, really need anything else with those that are we should distinguish between the standard of living and quality of life. even the standard of living is obviously determined by how much money you have with them. cuz choosing us for quality of life, it depends on how much time you have to spend at your own discretions. we want please, what are the and you stick with them to a certain level of an increase and the standard of living you leads to an increase in the quality of life than one other student must time to provide that for everyone more or less sense except maybe 10 percent who are genetically incapable of productive work? who will always have that level because people are different now that so then we must explain to everyone that they can increase the standard of living. so does it cost? no gosh, the quality of life will either freeze or pour go down. so the richest people spend

huge money on ties. your tend to like the key. you're only in russia but the most to where you could expect to find remnants of the new will reach mentality over the ninety's, but everywhere and it's absurd. yeah, we're almost out of time ventures are which i'd like to us. one last question, among many cultures, who thought of that, how they claim to be civilized ation? if it doesn't make a distinction between doing and be independent and being, is not the same as having a high quality of life. the reward is something else, but maybe i find that fascinating consult. i think it's one of those things like subordinates, me so i can recall i didn't, can be hard to explain to west in person. that was, what do you think is the difference between having a high quality of life and being the custom in the high quality of life. the reason for my definitions is evans, a necessary conditions on those emotions in terms of the number of hours available

in the week. the worst of all taking being which a, which is because i, for, i would say to be conscious of your existence, my wife and paul take in the transcendent. and it's just those things don't seem of if you're also dogs. that means one thing. if you're boldest, that means another. uh, if you're a stoic meeting or a no flaps nice, it's something else. but without said, you're essentially so monday in person, we should start all some bound to this world photo. and yes, it's just the $180.00. have some brain you will feel, however vaguely when we start such a mundane, existence is absolutely meaningless. up. so i distinguish, i said, this reminds me of some because sure, kind of makes sense that we have so many is only movies today for zombies, a people or human like creatures that woke and eat. they're not really touch with life or stuff like that. anyway, this has been very interesting, but it's time to wrap it up so thank you so much for coming. thank you for the conversation. well,

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