tv Interview RT August 27, 2023 1:30pm-2:01pm EDT
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the assistance of the keys on these $25.00 must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia to day and split the ortiz full back, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services for the question, did you say to stephen twist, which is the, [000:00:00;00] the hello investigator. thank you so very much for making time to sit with us today.
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we're there for a moment. thanks for having me. of course, as you know, the 15th annual break summit just wrapped up here in johannesburg. um, how is it being seen by boat, south africa and russia? um, well it's, it's a big event. obviously, of course, um it will be more better uh, visible from some distance. um but so, so i'm, i'm sort of cautious to employees some big awards right now like it is a historic event um, but the minutes personal already use them in describing their results. but anyway, it's, it's a big achievement. i think that it is a very important for the development of the brakes and multiple are worlds in general. and i am proud to be part of the time proud to be part of the group that participates in based on the russian side of the bridge has left my portfolio with my responsibility. but nevertheless, and um,
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i would like to use this opportunity to congratulate our south african partners and friends because they do that and the substance will be assessed perhaps later on. i'm not certain whether i can foretell that to the works. history will be divided into a preacher. hands were pure with them after japan has worked periods, but certainly it is a very important event. uh and uh they, they, they did well. they coped uh very well with it. it was very well organized to on the sub central side. it is very important obviously. yes. and on the 3rd day and finally day, a big announcement was made. we're 6 countries now will be enjoying a full membership of the block. what is your take on that? well, i think that it is very telling, especially in the circumstances when uh, uh,
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were western non partners. i was deployed so many efforts to know to to diminish the significance under attendance of this an assignment until they try to lou or more countries to, to their side. and then to the, basically they will act according to the logic that was announced by president george bush or junior, i think some 20 years ago when she said that it's either your with us or your against us. and so that was at that time in connection with the international cooperation and fighting terrorism. but later on of the sound there was some was spread to other areas of international relations interest state relations. and the
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more and more the 1st of all security areas. but then other fields uh, where were covered by that approach. and the, to the extent that i think because i know it is, it is very difficult to me in neutral state, your name and on the line state. because there is less than the lesson breathing space for such countries and of the situation around the korean shows that um, so under such a pressure and under such circumstances it is very telling that many countries choose to drawing breaks a yes, 6 congress where of the me that those members, but i know the number of other, uh, uh, this is sort of announced. they are a desire their will to join bricks to become
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a part of bricks in one way or another. so. ready their list of candidates didn't become shorter. right? and again, uh, but it smelt to just, uh, uh, the old vist advantages and benefits for almost everything. with bricks, countries from being a bricks member. but also i think that of the, this western policy of either your, with us or against us has played a negative role for the west themselves for the westerners. and it does that. there's also certainly one of the sectors which is important diplomatically. yes, and what makes you think the brick block is so attractive to most importantly, the global files. and because you are the ambassador to south africa, the continent because a lot of countries express they'd grievances against the western counterparts. saying that they no longer want to be told what to do. so what makes the bricks
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attractive? fullest? so some advantages are, are pretty old this i think and to be do that and we respect each other. we treat each other as equals. we respect the sober and telling them us and sober and decisions that take breaks members and them as proof of that the decisions are taken by consensus within brooks. there are no 9 genius for and it was like a consensus minus one minus the one. so as we are different, our interests are different, but we thrive in douglas diversity and we english each other. we don't want to march up to, you know, what you, that is a per you somewhere across the ocean. and you know, there is no such and such
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a discipline and then we're gonna try to impose on each other while we're on interest and you know, try to impose some common values and so on and so forth. we, we agree we negotiate. if there are differences and uh we come to, to, to, to toy agreement. and, you know, throughout the week we have been, especially in the past 3 days, we have been interviewing a lot of political analysis and, and politicians from across the continent. and they all had one thing to say that they believed with this 6 additional countries. bricks may have brokered piece, in a case, you change it to a political places. what is your thought on that? um, well i, i, you know, it's, it's good to, to assess the brakes expansion and relationship with the rest of the world world uh,
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through the slams of that everybody would benefit from it. because otherwise we have to accept that who will inevitably use the mentality of. ready who, you know, from a think point of view, that is a threat from the standpoint of you over the 0 sum game. and this is not the case list of the case. hopefully everyone will benefit from the brakes expansion or especially those who participate in the to become members who are brooks partners. uh and um, in particular, in the area of security. uh, i think there over this advantages of coverage and with the brakes as no political strings, no conditions are attached to uh, military cooperation, military technical cooperation, within bricks. but otherwise uh it we, we, oh no, no way we should uh,
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assess it from the standpoint of your that if somebody gains them, we are losing um and uh well this has the mentality. all those a whole seat of a threat to basically and it does not. the threat breaks is, as my indian colleagues said, brooks is not the entry westbrooks as normal west. so there is no threat to, i'm only around to just for everyone. and with the stomach being hosted by south south africa, how does that suggest in the relationship between russia and south africa? what both our countries, that's very no such drifting force on the brakes uh, entity as a group of states, it is very informal, as you know so far, there are no charters. so you know, founding documents, especially there is no, no secretariat, which would be
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a regular feature for an international organization. um, but uh, brakes you. ready as a very important tool internally here in south africa, uh will, i will, will be in a better position to compare how works this truth. it's internally in russia and then south africa next year when the russian will assume president seeing that some of these group to but um, south africans has proved that, uh, the tickets are really seriously. um, you know, they respect the breeching ever. it gets future and desperate including um, uh, all the comic sign and uh they really work through a re cards in order to, to prepare the summit done and to have them as they say mor bang from from a buck. and it was very well prepared. just and want one of the many
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key points that were discussed doing both the bricks, investment for him and followed by the summit, is the need for both industrialization and scaling of emphasis structures. and as you very well know that south africa's struggles with power supply i, russian companies interested in coming to help south africa solve that problem. well i know that of. ready russian companies that have all of the need of tools and ingredients to all of a, to these, this problem or to solve this problem. of the shuffle competence is they, they are, they are strong financially and the, uh the they have no need to technologist in different areas. so um, uh, if so separate comes,
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decides that they would like to use uh the, these, these are russian companies in solving the problem of, uh, energy supply, energy generation. you know, they, they, they may just do it. and one of the many things that was emphasized by a south african businessman doing the brakes investment for him is that they are looking for investors and they need access to investors. how often do they come and approach the russian embassy? and how do you manage to connect them and, and solve their issues of the connectivity with potential investors that could come in investing different sectors here. what we're doing our best, where we're trying as hard as we possibly can. there are very many people that come with different ideas to the embassy, but i would like to point out also that there is a russian trade the mission and journals work. but this will stopped to, well,
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they are whole professionals and they are old economists. uh. so we try to find out um, what exactly can be attractive to to the russian business? because of course, the purpose of the businesses to make some money. um, otherwise some business organizations will become something else. uh no, um we try to find uh if, well, no, not old projects of course are um, developed to, to, to a certain degree when we come over to speak about investors and uh, you know, like a 1st phase of implementing it. but um or we tried to connect people. uh, we tried to identify exactly technologist competences that are needed
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in the lease or that to particular case that can be useful if the conditions a specific conditions of south africa. and uh, we try to find uh such a company in the russia and still connect them the, this is basically what we can do, what we can help. everything else is so far above our heads. and, you know, doing the summit, a lot of the, the heads of states that gave speeches, appreciated russians role in helping them with their independence. a south africa is one as well. how do, how is russia perceived in the south african society? and do you find those perceptions to be positive? i definitely do. yes, uh, in very many cases of just having presented themselves to people start talking
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about our common history. and it is a really inspiring that so many people have it so, so, so up in their minds, you know that uh the, they tell us about a different, the different stories that results in their struggle against the foresight themselves for their parents. there are great parents, ridgemont the grandparents and then so um i think that this is the main feature how russia is identified. i'm seeing here that this date, this is lisa association with the not so distant a history when the ussr helped a lot wrote in different terms. uh, the, the colonization struggle on the african continent in general. but also helped
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assist of national liberation. movements in the southern africa and the struggle against the prostate here and uh, people do remember that they refer to to, to this periods. and, uh mean you know about the names of the 67. so the soviet, um, military counselors. uh who are on the um wall of names in the morning and park here in pretoria. uh and so on. so um, so that the, that you remember what they think of russia is of us continuing states of the ussr . um, and this is the right thing, this is the right way because there is a particular aspect to that as well. now, when there were uh, there is an event when people speak about our systems by the use of soaring that
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struggle, sometimes there is. so, you know, why should popping from, from behind the scenes saying, but what's remember ukrainian was also helped to ukraine was part of the ussr. so, use self. africans should also be grateful to we do the premiums as they are, we're part of these systems. and so on. now i have to explain that in the last 2 years, there are, there was, contain in ukraine and they completely renounced of their soviet fast. their companions were this organization, the community is ation their reciprocation. so know that inbound and the russians image here in south africa and what so russia means the south african anyway, what was the, this is, this is, this is going on. what could share with picking you know, um russia
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a different particular other, so the adults and the cost quite some time them to the efforts and assistance of material assistance that was provided through the initial the directions and others will spark perhaps it all said that what was most an element, not till the economic difficulties that use a source or right. so ukrainians renounced, but they were not being office that we did. and now you know that they try to sort of jump on and off with them to watch them. and uh, this is simply moral. it's, it's, it's either your, your, your soviet bust as glorious for it's the other page of your story. the alternation most promising bust is glorious. you have to decide because you can look to be pick up from both sides and combined. we know leading up to the brick summit that the west was pressuring south africa in
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a lot of different ways in not posting the uh, the summit itself. and if president vladimir putin was to be present for a south africa to exercise is obligatory to the icy. see, can you elaborate on why the united states is just really pressuring countries like south africa, to, you know, create frictions between russia and not, not, and not have this relationship that is just organically foraging forward? well, uh, well i can guess, uh and uh, i will have to go back to what they've said already that uh their mentality works on, in terms of the 0 sum game. and uh, no,
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the improving relationship between some of their partners they see as a negatively as a threat to them. that which isn't of the case, at least with us in south africans because it does not. we are not the 1st style. we're not surfing, us, south africa is not a threat to the us. and flows are guys between our countries is not the threat to the us. but the, but the list, this is, you know, 11 of the, if there's also 11 this 0 sum mentality game is revealed, you know, while the summit was unfolding and, and progressing successfully that you, uh, the united states made the statement saying that it does not view brakes as a geo political rival. how much do you think we can trust the words of the american politician given that they've never delivered their promises to the global south? while i'm looked inclined to trust american politicians,
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but in this particular case, i can see the following, that it is a very characteristic and repetitive feature. when the western positions accuse fathers of doing exactly what they are doing themselves. so it should be seeing like a what vice versa, you know, more than 660 years have passed since the adoption of the declaration on the granting of independence to the cone you countries and people. but we see that western states are having a hard time letting that go, and that is so evident through the neo colonial policies that they impose on countries like south africa and across the continent as well as the global. so why
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are they having such a hard time letting go? and just as letting these countries have their full independence while it is because they like their, their quest, they like it for about 500 years. they have been the show established on maintaining this, this uh world border uh, rules based world order. according to the who was the bishop invented and imposed on others. which was primarily uh, the uh, redistribution of the world wills in their favor. and initially it was just, you know, physical displacement of some commodities gold uh, caught them. i don't know. what time were you taking the timber from uh,
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calling us and then that was the slave trade. them. there were other colonial practices to very well known and know you were we were in the era of some neil colonial practices. and if, if you will say that this is so evident, i think that now, although i think that it is even more evident if you look at it in the historic, right, right. retrospectively? uh, all these neo colonial practice breakfast as of the are still about the same moving uh, world product, redistributing it in favor of or the western countries and the or full or almost whole projects of that are no, no, no proposed in area of energy,
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of technological development and so on. now they have the least an element of, of these policies. and so no such things like energy transition, i think should be able to be able to very carefully by congress to whom they are addressed. well, ambassador, thank you so very much for making time. it's been a pleasure talking to you. the
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