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avoid co is up next on was a pos and will be back with them the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to wells a part in this new foreign policy concept signed into law the spring. russia for the 1st time officially defined itself as a distinct country civilization. but its own set of values and its own articulated
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vision of the world and the relation of different nations. what does it mean for the waiting most co positions itself on the international stage? and perhaps even more important to me, how it goes about building its own life here at home. i'll discuss it. i'm now and join bar on the pretty book, one of process, most of the announce colors of the east and a senior searcher with the peoples friendship, university of russia. expressing bye, thank you so much for your time. i'm happy to talk and answer your questions. and let's start with the concepts i mentioned pick up on which has given rise to many discussions and russia about what the civilization is and how it is different from a country at that section. and then we're just, so we're working primarily with english speaking audiences. someone had a lot of trouble coming up with a good english word for some of brittany, the problem because it can mean unique, unique, distinct, exceptional,
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and what have you. so sufficient? what does that you go? another option? what's your understanding of this idea from up with the civilization self sufficiency? no is rooted within that particular characteristics. were totally ancient to the cultural and intellectual leads of the country. i thought certainly was which then and it kind of ripple effect of propagation across the rest of the book relation when the city new media pollution is less than volts and higher cultural endeavors include education management, etc, with them. but in this regard rusher would like to be self sufficient, and i think it has a good chance of achieving this goal. so you have this top down idea of a self sufficient civilization. however, russian lives have changed dramatically over the past few centuries. will the countries either some craddick self sufficiency, how's the theory remain the same? you might to use just say, if something goes established and to cold, say at the end of the must go roost area, took a cube and as soon as a 10 such
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a major top down revolution the roll, the whole, i'm pretty little to see. oh, cool. cool, cool. what was the dates of a great tried to accomplish, let up, you know, as old habits come back to those patterns just called disappear, lenient who put in a style that may explain one aspect of this concept. you can even with the if you model patient needs go to opposite types of leads and with the coy corporate and sold a diary below. no, no, could i? and these people cut but human, the best example of a corporate slate is the british, or they charge shipping the products you nearly take a lead time community company. these are people united by a shared educational background while i am strong. but someone psychopaths the logical of houston, so don't think the generalized version of eating college, and you still couldn't care less about the countries people that they worked to benefit each other to protect their own privilege and to be able to guess all those white masters. let's just look at how those what masters treated for english
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sailors. i was going forward. a best example of a society was sold into relates, which is the opposite type. is china because it a couple things to consider. it is most slow back in the times of pizza, the great work adults could solar the relief was beginning to form in our country. so let's make these clear. for all viewers, we're talking about officials who genuinely care about the people's interest. yes, however, in the heat may sounds just that these are please shows, vision light in states. most do not see themselves as much different from the rest . so there is the ritual, as well as a bureaucratic aspect. of course, before pizza, the great we see rushes of leads included top clergy, but you definitely so think on yourself and most definitely it was an example of a solid area. let me just a little in the rest of the anglo saxons and especially that americans have been raised in the spirit of calvinism or puritanism, which essentially had broken the christian tradition workshop. by the way, they divide people into the chosen ones and the rest were not chosen. and it's not
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just that they're not chosen to turn to use as rep probate 1st. which means forever allen, a godforsaken, those who have new hope and whose only purpose in life is to serve the elect, couldn't certainly, but that's not what we have here. what circling back to some, a business to a self sufficiency, american concept of exceptionalism also includes this idea of being unique. so how was russian some, a business different from american exceptionalism? yeah, do my eyes think russia and iran? you said something in common in those regards. at least partially expressions. this tree includes a successful attempt at creating and expanding spears and continue using via video city as opposed to the empire as built by the anglo saxons, the french and so on. she's on what, which meant colonizing overseas territories. fox, who contiguous employer e, which means communication, but then it's bold is easier. the border did not insight
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a desire to subjugate and crush conference people's nicole as to meaning you did each of those. sadly, such instances also took place, but it was nowhere near the scale evident in the envelope sykes, some of the spanish portuguese and pause. so that was that well, but not much for moving you to response. if you put 2 guys of what even though it was that the results of byzantine influence, because the eastern roman empire operated on the same principles, thinking that repression was counter productive. that it was easier to assimilate and use subjects on negotiated compromise with them to go to an extent. yes most let's go though. one might argue that with the follow up with these on time in par, to here is emerged. but most of the 2nd there was the ultimate and bar she has to do is go to the oldest bureaucratic systems of governments from the greeks. where else could they get them going to send the sultan's greek subject 7 cold in by the last? what the many observers have remarked upon russia's uniqueness over this century's
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skilful carpet. it seems to me that many russians use as a sign of inferiority or deficiency chips. famous lines to russia cannot be known by the mind, no measured by the common measure. you know, how you can only believe in russia are often quoted with the beat of his smoke. well, with a beat of condescension or self deprecation lashing fox, i, and so why do you think is that general with us as are you do? i think it has to do with the negative side of the russian traditions of government . really new people who make russia in all seriousness. and this may have and you can be serious about milk or you can be sincere, are most likely, but still without the concept. yes, small current concept that 2 different things, most likely. there are people who would like to contribute to the development of the lens to explain what the feel that they're not allowed to. but if given the chance they would stop smoking,
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it's difficult because they need it cuz they want to be doing productive, uninspiring work. you cause it so i think this is a clash between passions of old solidarity traditions. are they in irritated from the design to an empire in the city and even from china? i chose to present to you, it's just the kind of corporate top players superimposed and paused by piece of the crate. and then paused by catherine the 2nd. just use the so the, when the empress grants are those freedoms to the nobility, she created a corporate elite for funding components. even if there was also the post solve your period to. and we were happy to embrace that mentality and it says life is that was the latest stage. those are the ones that it's embrace to it. but the majority of people who are simply confused, if you have listed many different incidences under russia, there's a fundamental principle in psychology which says that you cannot be fully mature for them to grow as a person. if you don't accept yourself as a whole, without judging yourself too much about who can sing clear the stage,
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know where we can begin to accept our selves in a past. and i was still just responding to the rest reaction. so they're turning away from us. now, well then we'll turn away from them through a certain extent. we are responding to the west reaction. you know, at the same time, we haven't yet decided which parts of a history to choose as a point of reference to put in which the sun prefer the soviet union to others prefer the russian empire of summer than thinking about russia before each of the great new me, the book is all schools, these things need to be harmonized, they should be an understanding of the common thread. we're still could we buy new and i believe that's what fluctuations in the approaches to building the leads and the methods of the leads education and upbringing, engine with all the main sectors, shields, and should be looked into what you've written. that's what defines it. civilization as opposed to country is not just formulating but leaving its values in the flesh and use of them to stay police the civilizations unique way of life and broad
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a world view here based on these approach, like what's less ation size in the world with the internet oaks used to 3 or 4 main civilizations. the unfortunately follows from my theory, the far eastern civilization has china. it's cool, but also includes korea vietnam, especially most vietnam in japan, and maybe something else that you use. and we have the south asian satellite station centered around india, currently includes. and the balance for atlanta and used to include most of indo, china is the cheapest option because you're still sell to a certain extent and indonesia. what do you want me to spend? we have the middle eastern civilization of which there are 2 versions of the bigot pulse includes the arabic world and jewish culture, which is quite similar to them. but it consists of just one that's nice website is human. they're organized in similar ways though, and you're on your case. and lastly, we have the western civilization if i could, if it was, but which also includes us,
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but as at least 3 different versions used by me and what, what did anybody on top? there's the mainland european version globally, even a piece key will tend the intercooler, anglo saxon version of the socials for more than a century. they have not consider themselves europeans to be the peace and the right. even though they do only when it's huge. that goes yes, but the americans comp really consider themselves to be europeans. and then there is us, you can you originally even our version these the also adults version of course, the annotated and pretty much loan already on for chris jones from eat to at the same time was if you look at our resources for so we're similar to china, because chinese one huge country even though surrounded by countries influenced by its culture. she said, i think what we thought it was, we are a huge country surrounded by people that used to until recently or still share our faith was in the for example, georgians. the bulgarians, the romanians, the greeks, serves etc. no,
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then it's noticeable. see at this patterns of how these people see themselves. so what's the value is they have keep a patriot being in spite of frequent betrayals by the lead switch happens both here and there. there's still this feeling of kinship, so am i get out of this, right. so it's really kind of a hybrid civilization that can boost, adaptable and accommodate tight and also create something unique. it's a difficult move, i'd say not really hybrid like europeans. we are a version of it's hard time. we sped up our development. it's sort of the website. but mostly because the most of the time we have been the peripheral version. sonya, it's not hard to see why really frustrated, cold enough means she doesn't have a large population. also plus product is lower nationwide. and so we don't have that much to offer to the leads so that they can develop various forms of culture. and we've had this but still when we decided to how to go it, it's in earnest. let's just look at the results. we can easily consider mathematics and music to be the highest achievements of european culture,
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although many will disagree with me. here. e. o scott, both the russian mathematical school in russian music are truly extraordinary, where 2nd to none is here. according to what i mean yet, but we have to take a very short break right now, but we'll be back in just a few moments, suspension the hi. i'm rick sanchez, and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously . why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else . welcome to please do the have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do, don't want myself to stay main street because i'm probably going to make you comfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again,
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you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you the american voters are rarely interested in the world policy during election cycles. but of said, the issue, the queen may be the exception this time round, particularly among the g o p voters, much of the republican base us our w frame policy. they see it is by the welcome back to was a part with on the day put in bulk one of process, most renowned colors of the east, and the senior research, or when they people's friendship, university or freshman village. mr. perry bulk in the 1st part of the program, will discuss the diversity of civilization. so you read it. almost all of them emerge during the so called actual age where very easy to use
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a term coined by called jasper's whom you admire. if the premiums were talking about the period of 2500 years ago, you would take 2 full centuries. i'm curious to know what's in your opinion, makes an era an axial age. could we be currently living through one foot bureau? it's no more what i think makes it an actual age, is the crisis of what i would call by battery. and as should i should put aside this is my usage of the term. or you could mean something different from what's all that also is called up by or, and is arouse specifically. but then there were too many different professions to many people. and some of the greater wealth due to natural growth will stop in the old forms of social organization or so. but it sort of it, which has to be mostly based on family ties were no longer effective. postpone them really cool and the people no longer perceived each other naturally as legitimate human beings. what do you mind?
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don't we don't get pulled up. so maybe what do you do is nonsense much of your own dock. i'm not going to allow my daughter to marry your son if i think that your work is nonsensical, eat the, the address from different cultures, or rather, to free civilizational, but quite advanced societies. as with the flush, the options for came up with different solutions for cementing the cultural integrity. cheated with quin, totally enhanced, but it's mostly talking about the acknowledgment of the value of each other's minds, scales and so on. but out about to cut even share and religions plug it into the community. and so it came to pass that in the west. what cemented society it was thinking together to mean to we shouldn't push up to something that the greeks called logos. and then it's a little ratio reason. so oh, but i was getting to, it was opposite ation 1st homes through a very complex and symbolic rachel's really about the widow, but the face of speech. good, well, so you should be saying this lee indians have very acute powers of observation much
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and the e, you've got a piece, an important you're being a member of the european elite is a thinking man. in the middle east, it will still keep getting together is also important to us what you buy from the mess as mold on the contents of your thinking, which is the role of the person who expresses the judgment through it. the whole story which goes away to the source with us all law, the middle east, and gold company, all the gold of the jews. as someone whose judgment feasel deal with in the form of revelations is absolute authority and cannot be challenged. the purely european structure manages without such a golden that'll go to thinking like and the rest of those works. this brings me a right to my next question, rush that you claim that an advantage or a unique feature of russia is subordinates with his sense of spiritual community. but the state of inactive thinking together to this isn't even hard a concept to express in english. you could explain it in more acceptable terms, and most importantly, what does it give us? the bill i recently read
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a colleagues. article literacy is argues that the word subordinate was coined in the russian translation of his level fly logical. originally written in french, that's split up. i don't know what the original french word was. i'm just not going to be coming your team. you're definitely not community. i don't know for sure. i forget to do you see the civilizational solution worked out in russia, which we can call subordinates, but that is, in my opinion as follows. the admin because the couple of thoughts on those thinking, cool, we see leads that understands you develops and supports the ideas of this civilized nation, right? but usually it's mostly done. the civil is i'd say, other people are involved as well. would you actually logically and emotionally completed so many of whom are incapable of independence, thoughts move, you coupling your special but who can relate to the values reflects invest, thinking about those. i'd say that mostly in you. what 3 saw in the traditional version of the russian civilization before the modem era. there thought kind of
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this phenomenon was represented by the liturgy who i don't know the position i am. so can you say that in the regular joint practice encouraged and motivated people to perceive each other as kindred beings, skolnik subley. but am very interested in young's dep psychology which in essence studies the collective unconscious. what religion calls god the rest of it. i think it was just for some reason why it's a ball going through a, i mean, i think that in this respect, some of that russia means more towards the collective, unconscious photo connectivity, the weight, and it sounds like an organization. so in every individual. so was invested in the big collective psyche. postpone in the west, on the other hand, is more individualistic, it is a bit of 5 to paraphrase nature, god is constantly being eliminated. so the collective aspect is removed your bu, well, i can know late reading parts from the polluting and would talk about the essence
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of gold cock. it is definitely not, i'm conscious of bucks more useful, but it is super conscious and they can use the 3 of those. and that's the difference. but if i might have to write or trans personal thought, something that's bigger than human nature was bigger than the individual postpone. but if i'd like to share my personal opinion and see what you think when it comes to what i believe the any ideology, any civilization that changes and humans, or their consciousness is due to both of them. because the human mind simply comp handle this massive burden and uh, got a choice script. the human mind isn't capable of existing, incomplete disregard of that on a watch a minute or the same is that say, so i was not able to access the but this wasn't actually butte of the soviet project. well, my question is about the western civilization was kaiser you said rejects these
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aspects of it. yeah. so that's what i wouldn't be able to do through a transformation without crashing and with the soviet union scenario. the moon. yep . no, i don't think so. it's called the i would even say definitely not if it's correct and if it does crash, but it isn't that it's a little even from the demographic standpoint. as a child pre philosophy, as well as other attempts to alter natural biology and impede essentially rep production will lead to elimination the luxury of more generally. these trend dualism towards individual isn't. that was the will always go into turn. what used to be a society given sheets into groups of like charges that repel each other just when you moved. you know, let's hear that there will be no societies and i guess place benefits some malicious center, malicious corporate delete that wants to control everyone else react. that's what i think. basically, it's about consciously turning people into some unconsciousness,
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which can be easily controlled to your guess those who want to do so. and there are definitely such people around are consistently story consciously built in the system workspace as you want. it's made this very interesting point, a put another western civilizations definition of progress differs greatly from the way all the civilizations understand it. could you elaborate more than that please? what was happening? well, the western civilization, these diverse, which did wasted almost 2 centuries ago, hazelton made fun of the idea of incident progress. both quantitative and qualitative. for some reason, especially in the american way of thinking, there must be more of everything or everything should be, must produced. when asked why the advocates of such values usually find themselves nonplussed, goes on who the other very until the progress of state, also represented by the us to solve the problem is a good variance. it's not a complete one, which was not helping out so nourishing the upper parts of the population. the most
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developed the most talented, the most persistent one, mcgruther in pulling up the lower parts or no speech and the use a solid sheets, colossal results in that. so little boy, but the best way would be to combine the 2 approaches progress the way it is seen by the indian civilization or chinese or a pro agents are less ation is not expressed as vividly and it's doubtful that they can be directly translated. sorry for jump in in the testing of those cultures and civilizations, you mentioned also have this very explicit idea of balance and understanding the too much of an a thing is it has a burden too much of edison is not good because it's kind of a distraction from things that are more important and valuable, of course. so any over development is dangerous. there's an old chinese story story about a man who invented something that you know, coal in aircraft to what we showed his invention to the emperor roy and the emperor assigned to the man in order that is like the cushion. because the emperor are realized, who wouldn't be able to manage this? and mentioned that you wrote recently that, that suggesting of russia become
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a normal country as the 1st post soviet administer for relations. one state is as ridiculous a suggestion of bride. so talented persons become become an average. joe, who eats, sleeps and water is little about any raise of creation. are you so that if we take a look at china, which also defined as a worldly, historical civilization of upset. but one thing it has made great efforts is to help its people to me and people in other countries which have a decent quality of life. what the best for us? 3 that's perfectly across. i don't think the chinese culture piece, dignity against well, for these 2 things are all the seen is complimentary using it. it doesn't rusher really need to see wealth. that's something that contradicts its unique identity request. you know, i think the supposition is very harmful. the way that i can also close mom
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a lot of from dusty etzky me a leather was bull, it's a, he's not a vice cancer, but bigger is to look at that stall. so we must draw up on the soviet experience and raise the lower classes to a decent level of existence with task in which we usually use like decent material level of existence, new material, and the best plan for look further. impulse methods call recently found out, you know, as a reach us people, the very top, spend their money. how many of you have some issues with it? and it's all kinds of nonsense for sure. you don't do. not in those jolts you travel to put your fist if there's a trivial people that of course they should not be happening. it will condition those. they should be no deficit. of course the what was on which was for the other things done. yeah. maybe i am an a person in the initial just the think that people should be educated in such a way that they can at least ask themselves, have all the necessary things you choose. so i can send my child to kindergarten that i have the money to hire a babysitter,
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but with my wife and i can go on vacation here and there i'm getting shift. so do i really, really need anything else with those that are, should distinguish between standard of living and quality of life? even the standard of living is obviously determined by how much money you have with them. cuz choosing us for quality of life, it depends on how much time you have to spend at your own discretions. we want please where the and you go to a certain level of an increase in the standard of living for a new leads to an increase in the quality of life. and one of us the most time to provide that for everyone more or less than that except maybe 10 percent who are genetically incapable of productive work. who will always have that level because people are different and other so then we must explain to everyone that they can increase the standard of living. so does it cost? no gosh, the quality of life will either freeze or pour go down. so the richest people spend huge money on ties, you'll tend to like the key only in russia, but almost where you can expect to find remnants of the novel research mentality of
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the ninety's. but everywhere and it's absurd. yeah, we're almost out of time venture the, which i'd like to us. one last question along here many cultures were thought of that, how they claim to be civilized ation. if it doesn't make a distinction between doing and be independent and being is not the same as having a high quality of life. the reward is something else. but maybe i find that fascinating consult. i think it's one of those things like subordinates, me suction audit can be hard to explain to western person. that was what do you think is the difference between having a high quality of life and being the custom in the high quality of life. the reason for my definitions is evans unnecessary conditions. i most put emissions in terms of the number of hours available in the week, the worst of all taking, being which a which is because of the, for i would say to be conscious of your existence,
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my wife and paul take in the transcendent, it's just those things don't seem of if you're orthodox means one thing. if you're boldest, it means another. uh, if you're a stoic meeting or a know perhaps most, it's something else. but without said, you're essentially so monday in person, pushes federal and some bound to this world to start on. yes, it's just the 180 have some brain. you will feel however vaguely when we start such a mundane, existence is absolutely meaningless. absolutely distinguish. okay, so this reminds me of some because sure. suppose you kind of make sense that we have so many is only movies today. zombies, a people or human lie, creatures that woke and eat. they're not really touched with life. but anyway, this has been very interesting, but it's time to wrap it up. thank you so much for coming. thank you for the conversation. well, that's all we have time for. thank you for watching. i hope to see her again. and it was
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