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the hello investigated. thank you so very much for making time to sit with us today. we're different on thanks for having me. of course, as you know, the 15th annual break summit just wrapped up here in johannesburg. um, how is it being seen by boat, south africa and russia? um, well it's, it's a big event. obviously of course, um it will be more better uh, visible from some distance. um, but so, so i'm, i'm sort of cautious to employees and some big awards. right. now like it is a historic event, but to minutes personal, already using them in describing their results. but anyway, it's a big achievement. i think that it is a very important for the development of the brakes and multiple our worlds in general. and i am proud to be part of the time proud to be part of the group

that participates in based on the russian side of the bridge has left my portfolio with my responsibility. but nevertheless, and um, i would like to use this opportunity to congratulate our salsa for community partners and friends because they do that. and uh, the substance will be assessed perhaps later on. i'm not certain whether i can foretell that to the works. history will be divided into a pre defined this more could be written after just kind of book periods. but the certainly it is a very important event. uh and uh they, they, they did well. they coped uh very well was it? it was very well organized. on the sub central side, it is a very important obviously. yes. and on the 3rd day and finally day, a big announcement was made. we're 6 countries now will be enjoying a full membership of the block. what is your pick on that?

well, i think that it is the retailing, especially in the circumstances when uh uh, our western non partners uh, deployed so many efforts to know to to diminish the significance of the attendance . oh, they sent us on that uh until they try to do more countries to, to their side. and then to the basically they will act according to the logic that was announced by president george bush or jr. i think some 20 years ago when she said that it's either you're with us or you're against us. and so that was at that time in connection with the international corporation and fighting

terrorism. but later on the sound there was some was brads to other areas of international relations interest state relations. and more than more the 1st of all security areas, but then other fields uh where were covered by that approach. and the, to the extent that i think because i know it is uh, it is very difficult to name and neutral state to remain on the line state because there is less than the less breathing space for such countries and of the situation around. the korean shows that um, so under such a pressure and under such circumstances it is a bit refilling that many countries choose to join bricks. a yes, 6 congress where i mean that those members, but i know the number of other, uh,

uh, this is sort of announced. they are a desire their will to join bricks to become part of bricks in a one way or another. so. ready their list of candidates didn't become shorter, right? and again, with, it's not to just uh, the old vis advantages and benefits from calculating with bricks, countries from being a bricks member. but also i think that of the, this western policy of either your, with us or against us, displayed a negative for all for the west themselves for the westerners. and it does that. there's also certainly one of the sectors which is important diplomatically. yes, and what makes you think the brick block is so attractive to most importantly, the global files. and because you are the ambassador to south africa, the continent, because a lot of countries express,

they'd grievances against the western counterpart, saying that they no longer want to be told what to do. so what makes the breaks attractive? fuller? so some advantages are, are pretty old this i think, and to be do that and we respect each other. we treat each other as equals. we respect the sober and telling them us and sober and decisions that take breaks members and them as proof of that on decisions as they can. why consensus within brooks there are no 9 genius for and it was like a consensus minus one minus the one. so as we are different, our interests are different, but we thrive in lease diversity and we english each other. we don't want to march to, you know, it you, that is

a pretty you somewhere across the ocean. and you know, there is no such and such a discipline and then we will try to impose on each other uh, our own interest and you know, try to impose some common values and so on and so forth. we, we agree uh we negotiate if, if there are differences and we come to, to, to, to toy agreement. and, you know, throughout the week we have been, especially in the past 3 days. we have been interviewing a lot of political analysis and, and politicians from across the continent. and they all had one thing to say that they believed with the 6 additional countries. brooks may have brokered piece, in a case to change it to a political places. what is your thought on that? well, i, i, you know, it's,

it's good to assess the brakes expansion and relationship with the rest of the world world uh, through the slams of that everybody would benefit from it. because otherwise we have to accept that who will inevitably use the mentality of. ready who, you know, from a sting point of view, that is a threat from the standpoint of view of the uh, 0 sum game. and this is not the case this month. the case. uh, hopefully everyone will benefit from the book suspension, especially those will participate on the to become members who are brooks partners . uh and um, in particular, in the area of security. uh, i think there over this advantages of customer rating with the brakes as no political strings, no conditions are attached to uh, military corporation,

military technical corporation, within bricks, but otherwise, uh it we, oh no, no way we should uh, assess it from the standpoint of your that if somebody gains them, we are losing um and uh well this has the mentality. all those a whole seat of a threat to basically and it does not. the threat breaks is, as my indian colleague said, bricks is not the entry westbrooks as normal west. so there is no threat to, i'm only around to just for everyone. and uh, with this summit being hosted by south south africa. how does that suggest in the relationship between russia and south africa? what both our countries touched very no such drifting for substitute the brakes uh, entity as a group of states, it is very informal,

as you know so far there are no charters. so as you know, founding documents, especially there is no, no secretariat, which would be a regular feature of an international organization. um, but uh, brakes you plays a very important role. now, internally here in south africa. uh will, i will, will be in a better position to compare how works as treatments internally in russia and then south africa next year when the russian will assume presidency in the some of these group of what um, the south africans has proved that, uh, the tickets are really seriously um, you know, they respect the breeching ever. it gets future and desperate, including uh, all the comic sign and the, the really works very hard. uh, in order to to prepare the son that i'm going to show them as they say mor bang

from one from a buck. and it was very well prepared just and want one of the many key points that were discussed doing both the brakes investment for him and followed by the summit, is the need for both industrialization and scaling of emphasis structures. and as you very well know that south africa's struggles with power supply i, russian companies interested in coming to help south africa solve that problem. well, i know that, oh, there are russian companies that have. ready lived in need of tools and ingredients to all of a, to these this problem to solve this problem. and how they shuffle competence is they, they are, they are strong financially and the, uh the,

they have the needed technologies in different areas. so, um, uh, a software comes decides that they would like to use uh, the, these, these are russian companies in solving the problem of energy supply, energy generation, you know, they, they, they may just do it. and one of the many things that was emphasized by a south african businessman doing the brakes investment for him is that they are looking for investors and they need access to investors. how often do they come and approach the russian embassy? and how do you manage to connect them and, and solve their issues of the connectivity with potential investors that could come in invest in different sectors here? well, we're doing our best where we're trying as hard as we possibly can. there are very many people that come with different ideas to the embassy,

which i would like to point out also that there is a russian trade. the mission in journals work that this will stopped to well, they are whole professionals and they are all the economists. uh, so we try to find out um, what exactly can be attractive to to the russian business. because of course, the purpose of the businesses to make some money. but otherwise some business organizations will become something else. uh no, um. we try to find uh if, well, no, not old projects of course are um, developed to, to, to a certain degree. when we come over to speak about investors and uh, you know, like a 1st phase of implementing it. but um or we

tried to connect people. uh, we tried to identify exactly technologist competences that are needed in the lease for that particular case. that can be useful in the conditions, a specific conditions of self africa. and uh, we try to find uh such a company in the russia and still connect them. uh the, this is basically what we can do, what we can help. everything else is so far above our heads. and, you know, doing the summit, a lot of the, the heads of states that gave speeches, appreciated russians role in helping them with their independence. the south africa is one as well. how do, how is russia perceived in the south african society?

and do you find those perceptions to be positive as i definitely do? yes, uh, in uh, very many cases uh, just having presented themselves to people start talking about our common history. and uh, it is a really inspiring that so many people have it so, so, so up in their minds you know that uh they, they tell us about a different what the different stories episodes and their struggle against the foresight themselves for their parents. there are great parents now, great, great grandparents and so, um i think that this is the main feature how russia is identified. i'm seeing here is that this, that this is lisa association with the not so distant a history when they use a sar uh, shopped a lot,

wrote in different terms. uh, the, the colonization struggle on the african continent in general, but also helped assist of national liberation movements in the southern africa and the struggle against the prostate here and uh, people do remember that they are referred to, to this periods and mean, you know, about the names of the 67, so the soviet military counselors who are on the role of names in the morning of park here in pretoria and so on. so um, so that they, they remember uh, they think of russia as of continuing states of the ussr. um, and this is the right thing, this is the right weight because there is

a particular aspect of that as well. now, when they were uh, there is an event when people speak about our systems by the use of sorry, that struggle. sometimes there is. so, you know, why should popping from, from behind the scenes saying, but what's remember ukrainian was also helped to ukraine was part of the ussr. so, use self. africans should also be grateful to we do the premiums as they are, were part of these systems. and so on. now i have to explain that in the last years, there are, there was a campaign in ukraine and they completely renounced of their soviet fast their companions were this organization, the community is ation their association. so know that, that in fact, that the russians image here in south africa and what russia means,

the south african anyway, what was the, this is, this is, this is going on. what could share with making it all the rush of a different particular other. so the adults and the to cost quite some time and efforts and assistance to material assistance that was provided to the national, the directions and others will spark. perhaps it's all said that what was most an element not till the economic difficulties that use a source or right. so ukrainians renounced, but they were not being office that we did. and now, you know that they tried to sort of jump on the bandwagon and uh, this is simply moral. it's, it's, it's either you, your, you're still get past this glorious for it's the other page. of course, the story. the alternation was problematic. bust is glorious. you have to decide

because you can look to be pick up from both sides and combined. we know leading up to the brick summit, that the west was pressuring south africa in a lot of different ways in not hosting they, uh, the summit itself. and if president vladimir putin was to be present for a south africa to exercise is obligatory to the i c. c. can you elaborate on why the united states is just really pressuring countries like south africa, to, you know, create frictions between russia and not, not, and not have this relationship that is just organically foraging forward? well, uh, well i can guess uh and uh, i will have to go back to was upset already that uh, their mentality uh,

works uh on in terms of the 0 sum game. and uh, no, the improving relationship uh, between some of their partners they see as a negatively as a threat to them. that which isn't of the case, at least with us in south africans because it does not. we are not the 1st style. we're not certain us, south africa is not the threat to the us. inflows are guys between our countries is not a threat to the us. but, but to this, this is, you know, 11 of the, if there's also 11 this 0 sum of mentality a game is, or the, you know, while the summit with unfolding and, and progressing successfully, the u. uh, the united states made the statement saying that it does not view brakes as a geo political rival. how much do you think we can trust the words of

american politician given that they've never delivered their promises to the global south? well, i'm look inclined to trust american politicians, but in this particular case, i can see the following, that it is a very characteristic and repetitive feature. when the western positions accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing themselves. so uh it should be seeing like a what vice versa, you know, more than 660 years have passed since the adoption of the declaration on the granting of independence to the cooling you countries and people. but we see that west in space are having a hard time letting that go. and that is so evident through the neo colonial

policies that they impose on countries like south africa and across the continent as well as the global. so why are they having such a hard time letting go? and just or letting these countries have their full independence while it is because they like their, their quest. they like it for about 500 years. they have been the show established on that maintaining this, this uh world border uh, rules based world order. according to the who was the bishop invented and imposed on others. which was primarily uh, the uh, great distribution of the world wills in their favor. and initially it was just, you know,

physical displacement of some commodities gold uh, caught them. i don't know. what time are you taking the timber from uh, calling us and then that was the slave trade. them, there were other colonial practice was very well known. and now you were, you are in the era of some neo colonial practices. and if, if you will say that this is so evident, things that now, although i think that it is even more evident if you look at it in which you're still recruiting retrospectively. uh, all these neo colonial practices breakfast as of the are still about the same um, moving uh, world product, redistributing it didn't favor all for the western countries and the,

the whole or almost whole projects of that are no, no, no proposed an area of energy, of technology equal development and so on. now they have the least an element of, of these policies. and so no such things like energy transition, i think should be able to be able to go over carefully by congress to whom they are addressed. well invested. thank you. so very much for making time, it's been

a pleasure talking to you, the solutions may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities. in other countries, the united states of america is different. wherever people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states, the, to the goals, anybody phase, the sort of the city encourage all the look at the in service of each skid 18 color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of us or the western economic

interest. simple decided i didn't that he did. so when i go by the democrats. yeah . can we change portal active so no 3 of us a little bit soft by what i mean. he can see the final goal of these things and allusions to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. the such a high quality of life to my destination is having the necessary conditions. the most part of you can start motion in terms of the number of hours available in a week. old contact can being pretty justly change, which is why i would say to be conscious of your existence. what about take is of transcend device or existence. it shows you all the adults and it means one thing, but it was not going to cut them with you, but is it mean to know that some way? so if you're a stomach or a new potomac, you need something else because at o, without that thing you are essentially a mundane person and shy,

pronounce that as well. so the on july the 8th 1941 german troops entered the stony of from the south. soviet soldiers and civilians full of the enemy courageously on the stony and soil go with thousands of casualties sold out the federal home to us want to but we are giving you $52.00. i get that. i'm not sure if i see it or what city of even that's the beauty we bought, the what is pushing it during the years following the soviet victory, a large number of monuments loveless and burial sites were rented to on of those who had fallen in the wall at the vs. just another. however, recently, many of them have either been demolished vandalized or completely neglected part of good enough that we sold the,

the of those who do the best because the ones who left to the memory so as to prevent rewrite history and re make consciousness compile for the why it's because the good for you to, to see if those are the i'm action or that seeing welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world. it's 2 years since the longest about war and us history ended with the cycle inside of escape of fleeing us troops from afghanistan . today, the us as involved in a warren your report, according to us and european officials in the new times. ukraine has too many soldiers in the wrong places, with hundreds of thousands dead under biden's political opponents. judging