us newest personality tucker carlson. he's popular adhd exploded since fox gave him the boot. we'll talk a calls and says he wants to interfere with the russian president vladimir putin and all these editor in chief margarita simone young things. it's a great idea. she's optimistic that at some point such an interview could potentially take the vice. the news went to the top of the

hello and welcome across stop. were all things are considered on people about american voters are rarely interested in foreign policy during election cycles. but said the issue between maybe the exception this time round, particularly among g o p voters, much of the republican base, a sour them ukraine policy. they see it as biden's war. the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send you what are we in budapest, he's a pod cast or the goggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and in lisbon week rustic, like morris is host of the redacted news broadcasts, and a former fox news anchor. quite gentleman cross stock needs and the fact that needs to get jumped anytime you want. and i always appreciated. right, george in budapest,

it was very interesting how over the last few weeks out of the ukraine policies played out in the us presidential election. but having said that, a foreign minister lobrado said on the last new cycle, which i think is quite interesting said, we know what we're fighting for. what is the bike administration fighting for? the very good question. as far as one can tell, is fighting for the right to keep the wall going. in definitely is doing good business for us is the manufacturers, and it's getting russians. honest. lindsey graham same is the best money i ever spend, you know the reference of dying. so i am back to live the only strategic objectives of it. is it possible to do some on the case? so by them, i mean when it comes to the republicans august, they that they're all the, the neo cons. and there is donald trump and trump himself. however, as always,

has been ambiguous. so mean he's not quite sure. does he want to be the tough guy who's going to, you know, stand out the boat and bring this waterman and photos they want to be the piece? make a will finally. uh, you know, be, deliver what everyone obviously wants. so he's playing it both ways and this happened during his presidency with me. and when you tried to sit on 2 stools, trying to use a full in between the a, you know, cleaning. it's very interesting looking at the main stream media coverage of the conflict in ukraine and it's, it's about 99.9 percent in one direction. but at the same time, you have a lot of people and if you look in alternative media and the pod cast and whatnot is almost the reverse, there's in an enormous amount of skepticism in this skepticism is only getting more intense as people actually learn more about the context of the conflict, your thoughts? i, i agree with you. i think that there's been an awakening when we were covering at

the beginning of the war and drawing attention to this is not just started in february. this goes back many, many years. there's a lot of context here. let's talk about victoria newland. let's talk about all of the pieces under the obama administration that were put in place to get us to this point. the expansion of nato, and people would say, no, no, you can't talk about that. we were banned and blocked in censored and taken off youtube and now being there. so we, we, you know, you know how it goes, right? so you've, you've been expand now. i think there's this awakening, this unfolding. and even just among, i know anecdotes right, really don't fly, but even like among friends who are sort of, wow, maybe had you know, ukrainian flags flying or, or, or pulled up in their, their, their twitter bios. you've seen a removal of that. you've seen flags removed just even going around portugal to parts of europe where you had all of the flags and subway stops and, and billboards. and everything had been removed. and i think there's a growing awareness, and i think it's starting to trickle into the main stream,

and i'm encouraged by that. it's a i like when people become educated. yeah, yeah, but it's sometimes it's really hard to get it out there. it doesn't charge. i mean, we, you, we could all be very skeptical here and take a step back. okay. so the bite and administration is for the war, overwhelmingly, the trump is against bite. and so support trump, you see what i mean, how it kind of plays that, that plays into that because it's clayton is mentioned, you know, the more you're educated about this, the more questions that are, that are brought up. but then there's also a political wedge issue i'm against base because he's for it is i think there is part of that as well. george? yes. uh without question. and uh, and i think that's the problem. there's originally but with chrome and, and his acolytes is that they're constantly attacking by them. but it's not clear always what are they attacking bite and bull because some of them are attacking buying but not doing, you know, do i have the ukraine?

and and drum says what it wouldn't have happened if i were president because i was so top and you know, built in with the dad to do anything with me and, and so, so the difficulty however, is, i mean i, i agree with the weights and is that there is, the public perception of ukraine is very different from the perception of the foreign policy making. you lead the policy making your lead is absolutely gone home and supporting the ukraine. but because i think you've greenville, when they just want to go on bleeding, russia. 7 however, the public, as you know, as, as not being is who is the best thing about the all the polls show that there's knowing susie as a board doesn't, you know, no way do you see any demonstrations against russia? um, it's just costing a lot of money and i think that point is saving into people's consciousness to say we're spending all this money on the landscape. how come, you know, we go ahead and then you know, there's no money, but this is no money for health care. and then what date with dental care,

whatever. but does it promptly infinite amounts of money? but uh, as soon as gets, the question is, how do we get to some kind of democratic accountability. so let's get to the public view. oh, well, we'll do back, we'll get to that with the war powers act images. pay the past the some of the 2nd half of the program. i claim that i get george gave us a wonderful segue into the self destruction of mike pens by tucker carlson, which is very interesting is because, you know, as i said in my introduction, you know, but much of the republican base is souring on this here. but not the leads, and this is one of the things that george and i have talked about a lot over ever since the complex started this iteration of meaning and february of last year. is that now we're seeing the real start difference between well the establishment and everybody else? well, it was interesting to watch tuckers is this the ration of a lot of these candidates over the past few days and you really, you're absolutely right about it. there's this dichotomy between the people in the

audience and the sort of automaton sewer up on stage mike pen speaking, we're good, we're the perfect perfect robot, right? the neoconservative robot. and i think one interesting narrative emerged when you watched all of those interviews. it was this idea of we can walk and chew gum at the same time. and so they're having this very narrow debate right now. biden is too slow to get, gets into ukraine. we would do it more quickly, and that's literally the spider. yeah, that's the spectrum, you know, and, and so there is no daylight at all between democrats and republicans, but you have this audience sitting there saying, wait a minute. why are we sending billions of dollars into this vacuum cleaner? that's ukraine. why are we doing this? when our bridges are collapsing in the united states, when we have a fit, no crisis pouring across our borders, when people can't afford their rent and they're working harder for less money is

the us dollar continues to be the value. so it's amazing to watch this disconnected, but georgia definitely right. there is an absolute thirst for continuing the military industrial complex in the united states and just follow the money. and all of those mansions that pop up around washington dc. they're all fueled by the military industrial complex and defense contractor. so the money is just pouring into washington dc. and then of course, you'll have this you a full hearing next week. and the military industrial complex will make even more money once the, that disclosure project comes out, they'll make trillions instead of billions of, you know, judge, it was interesting. the who they've, nikki haley, me see, might not have been obliterated. but she certainly learned her lesson from mike pence. ok meeting, she does, doesn't really say anything subsystem she never has before. why should we expect it now? but the what the, the, the, the tucker interviews showed in least if you, if you're interested in the topic of the,

there are red lines there people have certain limits and they don't like being lied to. okay? so it's for democracy. uh, okay, so then why are their elections going on in ukraine? okay. well, it's about transparency. why can't you have an audit of all the money that's going? they're excited people, you know, people don't like to be treated as it is. if they're children. yeah. then the question, and it's was very striking that the in the 2016 when the trump um, what is this array to, is full of his or republican opponents. he did it by a very clear, unambiguous messages and we will like to about the rock. thank you. absolutely. it was a con job that and as you went further, you said that they knew it was on the job. those people who, you know, the depths of thousands of americans are on them because they lied to the american

public. and everyone assumed, well, this is the end of trauma. you know, you know, he, he gals survivors and he's the republican voters. do the deal. yeah. you're absolutely right. we will lied to. and this was in south carolina. you know, where you're the home of all the veterans. yeah. so you're actually right. the people want, you know, the truth still. and the, and they told that everything that they've been told about ukraine about zalinski has been lies. and, and that is, that isn't any build, and that's also explains dr. carson's notice reputation. i mean, he's standing among the republicans, it is extraordinary. and topic also has been the one person on the main stream media who has been absolutely outspoken on the, the subject of the ukraine. yeah. because he's not afraid. he's not afraid. everybody else has put into a posture being afraid of going to i find a bobby kennedy junior, this position on this very interesting to so you have

a obviously he's not the frontrunner in the democratic primary because there isn't a democratic primary. but i mean, he is prominent within the party and in all to alternative media, he's very, very popular now, like in the main screen here, but it's very interesting in a bobby kennedy jr in from maybe not saying the same things, but both being skeptical, hosting skeptical and both being marginalized, uncensored and blocked by the mainstream media. and it's amazing to watch when they say something, what you're allowed, then to cover in the mainstream press or to have again, youtube censoring videos blocking uh, shutting down entire channels because of what bobby kennedy junior has to say. i don't agree with him on, on everything at all, but i think when you have a candidate who's willing and afraid to come out and say, you know, why are we doing this? i won't, he says i'm gonna shut down all the military bases around the world. do you ever think they're going to let him become president of the united states when he says,

but i'm going to dismantle the military industrial complex. i'm going to take and shut down these military bases i did with my wife and the how can i state are quite and how can you say that you're going to face the comment on? isn't that a comment on the, on the, the central patient of democracy in america, you just said they'll never allow him to do that? well, i, well, what happened to the democratic process? yeah, and i mean, that facade, i think we're now really seeing through this facade, that it's the money. it's the donors. all you need to do is go back seen these nuggets of bernie sanders. right when, when m. s. nbc produced theirs and whistle blowers and m. s. nbc came forward and admitted that they were told that they were not allowed to put bernie sanders on television right then even in their graphics that they had on their screen when they showed who's the court, the candidates running for president. right now, it was interesting to see in, you know, andrew yang and other people removed from the graphic and they had comma la harris on there who was pulling lower than bernie sanders. why?

so she's pulling lower your bernie sanders who's winning, but you can't have him on the show. you can't do the man. i have to go to a hard break here. we're going to jump in here. we're going to go have a hard break. and after that heart rate, we'll continue our discussion states. the some nations may be able to turn to atrocities in other countries. united states of america is different wherever people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states, the, to the other, the automated ideas, the volunteer, very, very easy to sort of city and teach all the look at me for the in service of each skid 18 color revolutions is one among several means to reach the

goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the helm of us. the western economic interest. people decided i didn't that he did whatever by the democrats, the nutrient portal acted. so no, the say little this of the by way, i mean he can see the final goal of these things and allusions to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. the, the the,

the, well, the magic ross stuff where all things are considered. i'm peters. well, this is a home addition to remind you were discussing some real news, the george in budapest here in the last new cycle. we had other senate rejects congressional powers over nato. article 5, and it was a vote of it losing $16.00 to $83.00. we entered the pro 1st part of the problem, talking about the democratic process. now we're talking about trashing the constitution. is it someone else's? another country is security needs trends. the security needs of the united states and for us, the constitution that exactly is a bit of a brass bull hasn't bade the prop a democratic uh,

observation that, you know, optical, 5 of the nose authentic treated does not trump the us cost to use the decisions about going to level of determined by congress and by the us present the town and by nature. but this is where, you know, the american, the political elite is of no, no, no, you know, we, we've gone, discuss that. we have to be binding on articles live is binding on it, but of course we were told many times the article vibe doesn't say that you automatically go for walks. but even when you look at the north atlantic treaty good makes clear that you're only other obligated to go to war in circumstances as long as your in conformity with 0 nations laws and the constitution. and so they accept even the north atlantic treaty,

except that every nation has to follow its own laws and its own constitution. but it is a measure of how small america has degenerated. because there was a time when there was senators who expressed discomfort with united states joining nato, the senators who are expressing discomforts over the expansion of major the was a debate. i mean, wasn't much of a debate, but the list of what's on the debates in the ninety's about expanding nato. now, i mean, other than rand, full and even he is been rather weak. but you know, other than rampal, there's no one who say pay where the hell is the america. you dragging of the americans into yeah, well it judge them on our podcast to discuss that great length with article one of the treaty is, which is never mentioned meeting. don't books always refer, resort to diplomatic means to resolve conflicts here with claims. what is there,

what is the reason why i brought this up in? it's something a trend that i have been observing for a long time. you're in lisbon. you're in portugal. and uh, you know, we've seen how b e. u is subsumed itself to nato because, you know, we've breaks it, you know, the, the, the case a back door back into europe is really a european union. but when it's subsumed under nato, and if you use color, so it's just codified exactly the same thing. i got you, i found this article on anti war dot com. i mean, i didn't see it in the main street. i would have missed it completely if i hadn't gone to alternative media cleaning. well, you, i think you're hitting the, the nail on the head, which is what? well, george did to is what is happening to united states. you're literally, you're literally taking away american sovereignty and you're turning it over to this global on elected body. and it really gets you off the hook, we're seeing it at the world economic forum level. we're seeing at the world health

organization level. so that, you know, under a pandemic treaty, what happens? well, the united states government is irrelevant. it's this an elected body that gets to decide with the future of these countries. and i think this is, i know there's all this chatter and talk about this unit polar order versus a multi polar order. but i really think it is actually, this is the, this is the future, this is the debate right now. do we want to give up sovereignty to these large organizations that do not have the interest of the sovereign powers at heart and individual countries, whether it's in netherlands and having other farmers, you know, lots of their, you know, thousands of farms because of something that is drawn up in brussels or the united states pandemic policy is something that's drawn up by the world health organization. or why are we sending so many billions of dollars into this cauldron that's destroying the united states. but all of these questions are not being asked by people in washington dc. you're right, ran paul,

maybe the only one that was asking that question and then he's even bent over and allowed these things to pass. oh there's no, there's no audit of the amount of money we're sending there. yeah, i asked for it. well i guess i didn't get it. okay, i won't hold it up anymore. let's just push it through. so weak is a great way to describe it, and it's really, really troubling the sentence rejection. you know, this constitution over the, over this i, i'm really what i'm really worried about where we go from here. and how much will you see the, the united states senate just had to finally announce that we're no longer at warner rack. after 20 years we, we have to, literally, we even announce a war when did we actually actually put when did congress approval. war is the, it is the but the, with the recent vote in on go to george right now. they will, they will, they even refuse to a, from the constitution physics showing that they don't affirm the parameters and the

sovereignty, but can use that word of the come see if they refuse to do that. that's extraordinary . never happened and i'm not quite sure why quite strongly. i remember a few days ago, they also had a vote, and it was, i think, some congressmen who is a stipulate as a condition of more money for ukraine, that the by them is ration come to congress and explain each strategy. what is it trying to achieve? and if that doesn't come and explain what he's trying to achieve, then they'll be no more money. and that was, that goes also voted down. so you can, you, alexis politicians who presumably are elected in order to oversee the patropolis spending over the taxpayers money saying don't mamma we, we don't want to do that yet. you don't have to come to us. you don't have to explain how you are, how you're spending all money, and that's the same thing with the old not are we, we don't want to do it. we trust you, you know, all this money is, you know, 100000000000 do 100 bill and who knows how much money has been spent. yeah, it's all being spent perfectly appropriately. we use the tool,

they need an audit of donald from businesses in new york city. yes. that's the key . exactly. yeah, that's the most important stuff. right? yeah. the yeah. that, that, that, that's really important. but what you're doing with tax way is money. i, you just go ahead and keep doing what you're doing. you know, clinton, one of the things that i find really bothers and that we shouldn't be surprised is that we all august, remember the drumbeat to war and the rack and the same strategy is being used even though the new york said we lose our less of the watch do we want or less? we, you know, we won't be, we won't fall for this again. but they are because the be, you know, nato is phone is a supposed to be a defensive military organization so that you'd be talking about geo political positioning. and security, but they just plan to send to that into a, a, a crusade, a crusade of about of the west. you mounted joseph browse, you know, the garden and all of this year. it is,

it security is really kind of an after thought here because, you know, the whole idea of security during the cold war in the sense is being the visibility of security for all we are no longer in that. we, we, you know, we, we got untethered from that, okay. and, and as long as we're untethered from that, we're going to be living at a time to be in tennis insecurity. you know, by the way, facing, is watching. and that's a great point. it's a question i've asked for years when people would say to me, well this is where you will hear the rhetoric from george w bush and, and all of them. and dick cheney and others, this is making a safer that by going into a rack, you know, tie a yellow ribbon around a tree and in america, and this is making us the safer. i mean, my brother was in baghdad. so during the gulf war, and i mean how, how we see for how was our security improved here in the united states by invading and destabilizing the middle east. like please explain that to me. i'd love to hear

how that works, how our american troops in syria stealing syrian oil, providing security for the united states, and then shipping it to a rack. how i was sending a hundreds of billions of dollars into ukraine, making people in iowa safer. please explain. i would love to hear how these freight is right now. could even go further. how is it actually helping ukraine? george? i mean, it needs a, you know, i've said on my program, you know, you, oh well, um we, they, us, it stay in a rack and i've always, it didn't, we help them and, you know, maybe we should stop helping these be boys. they as these a lead say, because the more a that is being sent to, to ukraine, the longer the more, the more people dine and the smaller you brain gets. if it's absolutely the, you know, in x or it will cause an effect, that the more money that pulls in the more native they get, the more a countries destroyed. i mean, what's happened, the ukraine, i mean, is just the risk of it. but what happens the syria?

i mean, it will not happen. have obama not going on with this brilliant idea to affect regime change? you know, i saw months ago before that, oh, got out the months ago, you know, look what has happened in the, in libya look, was having a 0 and then it goes in that same wonderful year in 2011. and they said, you know, they had the sali and human most goes, i haven't got that war in yemen has been guys up here the total devastation of the country of the country and certainly hasn't done anything for the united states. but it's just the distorted the many, you know, obviously go back to one of the george w bush's was, and this is really the legacy of nature. and even even going beyond what was, i mean, the impact that he's had in this been your old of divisiveness and you know, they, they, he's the area that's over well many countries easier, but you don't basically have had quite a peaceful life. it wasn't,

there wasn't many of the ethnic conflicts. the, the, the are terrible political been this with us now emerged in a country out in bulk area and romania molto. but all of that is effect the is an effect of a us and they do expansion. know, you know, the, george dave who are really good, literally a menu of failed of foreign policy, became changed the claim where we, where they have one minute left here. but the different, there's a big difference. this time you go to the, the u. s. is leading the collective west against a new killer power called brush it, it's been different. don't you think one minute? absolutely. it is. and i think you're, you're witnessing why they're continuing to push for, you know, saying well, no nuclear power, nuclear weapons that's off the table. so we're running up against this wall. okay, so then we're gonna play underneath that nuclear threshold. we're going to play our little game in our little garden, expanding nato, and all of these additional countries. and funneling as much money as we can to the expansion of nato. and we're saying we're out of weapons now. i'll continue,

we're out of weapons. so you know what, we need to ramp up on a war footing. you heard this in britain, you heard this last week and washington we need to go to a war footing. now. what does that mean while we're out of weapons now? so we need to expand within these parameters, more javelins, more patriot missiles, more jets, expansion expansion expansion. what happens in natal being a defensive organization? yeah, well it at the expense of health care and the education in the border security and all of that claim, it was wonderful having you on and what i think my guests in lisbon and in budapest and one's like our viewers are watching us. here are the see next time remember, prospect was the them assignment was beckett, the putting of a petition. you

a special purpose for the publish them onto this patient. the ethics, the name on zillow, both of my non payment of soap into my man. so i don't have to remember about the vehicle, so they almost have to do a squandering school. i'm absolutely no display on the go with you because always smoking and stuff. so go to the defense of those core. assign. yeah. boyfriend, you know, city test, at least from the moment they left sylvia and diminished, had dreamed of going back. and with a start of rushes, special operations there was renewed hope they'd see they native city again,

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