tv Cross Talk RT August 31, 2023 11:00pm-11:31pm EDT
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cisco museum spaces themselves a relic of the past. this is one of the best museums in the world that haven't touched in saint petersburg to help proceeds the director here and i bet he has met the the hello and welcome to crossed out. were all things are considered? i'm peter a little most afraid of robert f. kennedy junior. well, apparently everyone in the political establishment and mainstream media very much like donald trump. he says, what do you think? liberal pious, he's be damned, or k junior is fear because he's fearless the
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to discuss these issues and more and joined by my guess. lionel in new york, he is a legal media analyst and in north florida we have tom longo. he is publisher of the gold goats and guns blog and newsletter. alright gentlemen, cross that bridge and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right. i know it's good to go to you in new york um a little high probably on my part of my introduction there. um, uh, i'm not endorsing robert f kennedy junior, but very much like be to 2016 but presidential campaign, which i was gonna skip this way. you know, to look it's domestic politics. and then there was a guy named donald trump, and then there was a guy named bernie sanders about bernie sanders blamed and burned and crashed. trumpets the width is but robert f. kennedy is changing the way this campaign is being looked at a much to disagree and of the establishment and the media thoughts. hi, this week my wife and i went to see about the kennedy junior at
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a event here which volleyball tea uh when he was dis invited to the center for ethical culture because he of course, over and i became an anti semite. bobby can the juniors and that you somebody because he dare to suggest that there might be, believe it or not, they demographic or do you have the component to different diseases like oh, i don't know. tell you jackson and a sickle cell anyway. long story short. he had to redeem himself. he was uninvited, at the center of the go, called your were robert oppenheimer with the school. that's the, you know, she was moved a gentleman cuz it was a, a, it was one stock needs coach. allow me, uh, firing line. people from air in here, the best part, every demographic. i've seen a little babbage years chip, easy. these old young black white gave you straight. she has done what, what trump has done. i am writing his name in no matter what and one more be. i
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don't want to speak too much. my dream, my crazy dream is vice president is tucker carlson to drive people from the lines. going to drive people from the right. bobby drives people from the left, we disintegrate this left, right. this, this ridiculous illusion of the left right paradigm because ronald reagan, they left a mike punch was into a carry leg. and you gentlemen, knowing what you know will be also a viable candidates because it's about connecting. so here the greatest thing and that's why gavin newsome is going to be set up jos on his way out as evidence this week, by, by 100 please. so the world, it is a change, it, it seems like why don't you read tom's blog? think about the fair enough yet, and i advise everybody to know it's very interesting. one of the things that really sticks out is that, but um, is more popular among republican best interest in the democratic voters. okay. this
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is a really interesting thing. yes. and also talk you said in your, in your recent blog and i'm paraphrasing, i go down because i don't want to take it out of context. robert kennedy junior is more of a threat than trump explain yourself. oh, because i really do think that when they want to pull the plug on trump, they can legally and i, and it's not because trump should be in the legal trouble or the he's that did anything wrong. but this is just the way they, they operate and more over i think that the kennedy is safer than trump. kennedy doesn't re, or people like trump does like the trump brings out the a rational in a lot of people. and it's for this reason that even though i'm, you know, i don't have a hard time believing that joe biden got 81000000 boats. i can also make an argument that, you know, donald trump is so divisive that every body just came off the sidelines and said, you know, want to get rid of this guy. and because i believe the gas light in,
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or they, or however you want to put it like it. so for that reason you gotta think, ok, kennedy is not, he's not that guy. and so he's reasonably acceptable to republicans because he's talking about, you know, it's, it's, it's, the one is as final point it, he's the guy who can reach the center better than from can. because trump polls fairly with the center of soccer much she just does. and it's, that's the reality of it. so, you know, in some ways, i think they can be trump in this day, depending on how things play out. because if they can now now, so just really, if i'm the democrats on doing that, but on my you will have my go. all right, how do we, how do we deal with bobby kennedy? we get rid of him and we leave trump in the game to run against gavin bruce. and because that is the perfect set up for them to steal the auction again. well, you know what, it's the authenticity element here, line line. i don't know if you saw bobby's interview you on the breaking points
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a few months ago and it was just sent in a bomb and nation. i was a typical m s m d c. i thought never let him answer a question. okay, never let him answer a question. okay. and then it's on bill mar, which was kind of, he's always kind of bizarre, but he's a real intellectual, bobby kennedy. here's a very interesting things to say. now again, i want to practice as you know, and not that i agree all the time, but there's a person that makes me sit and watch the entire thing, which is very rare in our media environment line. that's an open, but much much splits disabused ourselves of feeling that we always have to say. you know, not that i agree with them because you have a lot of people. we're talking about vaccines and let, let me just say something before i get to it. if i had to advise bobby, a couple of things are 1st lose the vaccine narrative. you said you've spoken, move on, give me a narrow to give a, give me a world view of talking about other things. show me the bread. go to what, really a, a hits people, number 2, there's an, there's an intellectual part of them,
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which is nice, but america is on intellectual. we want to feel something we want to connect. tell me something that's important. number 3, as far as from goes, i love trump, the way i used to like the ramones, it was a weird acquired taste. you wouldn't want to play it at a wedding. i appreciate what they did in the scheme of things, but are they going to be taught 40 trump? we have developed an allergy to him. the trump of 2016, it's over is vaudeville bell bottoms. disco is no styled you for his own good for the rest of us. plus she will be don't you think gentlemen, he will be far more effective as the m and of greed as the the graham and the, the kingmaker. he would be with one tweak. i'm going to say this, there's no power in being the president. there is no, that's not if you want to change things. if you want to make my favorite movie and is the murmur ratios of starlings, how they move and this has make i,
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how do they do this? that's what he does. and believe me, gavin gross and me do say which i'm going to steal repeatedly by. when police down gavin is their last chance, it's the hail mary, and by the way, it's going to be gretchen whitmore as his number 2 because already there they are. oh yeah. they are staring. and one more thing, the big money. dams who basically came in the, the shadow government folks who contaminated this democratic party are now realizing folks, this is not, you know, a general mutilation and puberty. bob blockers where and i have a, they've come from, you know, stop, they've lost control. it's very interesting. it sounds good, says the, i guess everybody knows i'm not conservative, i'm very open about it but, but it's, there's so many is so many people that i did want to listen to bobby kennedy and it's like, and i, i recognize his politics. it's the politics of his,
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his father and an uncle. okay. i mean, and it's not that i agree with that, but i recognize that i don't recognize the left right now. it's for me, it's just babble. i have no idea what they're talking about. but i know it's not good for me. i know that pretty sure. and i think that's what bobby kennedy does. people they can understand what he's talking about without being threatened without being a feel like they're being talked down to. i think i think people do like uh, having intelligent conversation. i think that's it. that demonstrates how popular podcasts are now because there's a long form. you can really go out and do a deep dive. and every time i listen to him, talk about something, not about vaccines or anything else. but like he made a, he could completely made the sean hannity of full on his own program. and it's not a hard to do a need for a pro can to the audience and they were cheering for bobby, not for the dispute penalty. that is the hannity which sound display every single night monday through friday. right. i mean, there's a couple of things here. i,
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i think this is the thing and kennedy strategy and what she elucidated on the joe rogan podcast. right. was very clear. i, i my, my, my partner in crime over go dressing, honest, extra wife said dude, you must listen to a watch. the whole thing, the stage to the end. you have to listen to the whole thing. like i know you don't have time on that. you're over scheduled, i know you don't want to do it. i did it. and i got done with it most out on the porch, my wife while she was doing a pottery and we listen to the whole thing together. and we got to the last 20 minutes where he laid out his strategy. and i'm like, he's running the 2016 trump playbook except he's not using twitter. he's going to use twitter. but he's, you things belong for media of podcast in order to break through what? well, i know talked about not getting my name is nbc, so they can interrupt them and they can, they can run their script just like don't let them talk in front of congress. and so debbie wasserman shelves could sit there and cram span and all i mean,
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this is the, this is the play, right? this is the path of mine that we all go through and how scripted, all the stuff is. and clearly, the, we live in the golden age of podcasts and because people want something better and they want better discourse and they're demanding better discourse. and if they're gonna shut us up in our homes and tell our kids that the only the only value they have that society is consuming as little food as possible, playing video games and watching porn hub brand. these kids are going to listen to on off a lot of pod cast as their media. they're not going to listen to the cnn. cnbc is. and so kennedy knows that he can break through that. so i agree with you while vinyl. yeah, i mean the vaccine stuff is important. get rid of the cum trails do like this is the stuff that like drives me, not absolutely all, but focus on pollution. not climate change. your at the bottom of the book as a buyer mental bone advisor outstanding and he's doing is talking about the one thing that environmentalist never talked about. actually,
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pollution. the thing that everybody agrees about. no. which really exactly which is nonsense to write a ball flip, right. the bible, they always do the status against each other and play the fallacy in 2 steps needs us and does this synthesis march broad minus towards for him to solitary doesn't. that's what they always do. like this is the dumb british and my 6 stuff, and it just bothers me to know when we break through that we move on. i finally got to many people away by the way, that table. but aside from that, i don't need for it pretty well. we have uh, a couple of things. straight distress took it from head. oh, sorry, no, like i said i you sound like you're apart, your pads, you can't energy. somebody does a cold. we're just kidding. 2 things. and they, they lapse my load, your browser, the lot that the are they on the lot that of the, are with the, with radios they, they even thought that lincoln was unprofessional, because he actually took pictures. but let me throw something and i agree with you . what we got, i think the 3 of us secretly believe we would never say on the campaign trail
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because people can't handle it because people are children. just like if we had a restaurant, everything that we liked to eat, we wouldn't put out there. we want to go for what's popular to i agree with this g o engineering not now, you know, flatter not now, not ever, but a couple of things but, but the whole that, that line on a couple of things hold up. i, we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard breakdown, continue our discussion on the candidacy of robert f. kennedy junior. stay with r t. the nations may be able to turn the atrocities and other times the united states of
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america is different. wherever people longed to be free, they will find a friend in the united states, the, to be a, the automated i, the very, very easy sort of citizens to draw the look at the in service of each skid 18 color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them onto the help of of us the western economic interest. people inside it didn't that he did to everybody, the democrats, the new training portal, acted sol suite the st. louis of however, you can see the final goal of the steamer of allusions to ensure that there are no
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independent players in the world anymore. the munos. so they just don't have to shape house because after kids and engagement equals the trails, when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look for common ground the the welcome back to the ground stuff were all things are considered. i'm peter. although this is the home editions remind you for discussing the candidacy of robert f. kennedy junior. the
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eyes go back to the do you want to do? i mentioned a few points before we went to our hard break it. yeah. garb allow said, i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i mean, i'm a conspiracy analyst, but i gotta tell you this much. and you can disagree all you want. but if we can put bobby kennedy on the couch and say, bobby, i think we know the people responsible for your father and your uncle, or whether or not the, the named actors in this particular passion play, you know, and, and i know what number to your own family, including josh was bag school was pulled up to this, this uh, this where he kind of a hostage video where he is. he is crashing him. bobby kennedy to the point where he said, you know what, i'm 70 years old. i'm going to go out and i'm going to make a mark and let me also say something. the people that i could destroy, the people who destroy my family. i took away my father and i was a kid for the people who are pushing joe by. and so what a beautiful way for me to leave my mark and my legacy to buy up and to get and believe it or not, this is for you dad. don't think there isn't
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a part of him that says i'm going to get because he has been against. remember he took this battle on it gets big pharma knowing, knowing where they were like she loves this stuff. and what a way to bring the entire left right paradigm down and don't think that doesn't wake in his subconscious. and that's his good spirit, though tauriel as i'm going to be today, at least any open line or has such an interesting observation. yeah, i thought about this you, why is he doing this? he's on 70 years old. he's extremely well off. i mean, there's no more royal name in american politics than kennedy. i mean, he's made the shade and is it pretty good shape, jo. okay. i mean, why the hell should do it? i think a lot of this game is the explanation. what do you think? well, i would say this, it's also, it's also goes back to the one of my favorite articles that ever read in my life, which is the whole gary north top layer, a big thing, which is that a man's life can be laid out as a 3 layer cake when you're young, man, and you look for yourself when you, when you become a middle, a very family,
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you start living through a family and then once your families round, you now have to leave a legacy behind who. how do you want to be? remember? who do you want to do? do you want? i forgot what, what, you know, at the end of the day, who shows up to your funeral. right. so this is what's driving men like trump. this is what's driving them like kennedy. it's what's driving a lot of just like driving me, i don't know about you guys because it drives me every day. right. so like at the end of the day, i'd like my daughters know the ground. this is my, this is my next phase of my life. right, and this is important, like so, why is he doing it? it's the same argument as to why jerome powell is that still at the federal reserve man's were the $100000000.00. going back to private equity during the 0 bound interest rate, daniel the martino. but back to this point all the time could be a multi billionaire. at this point, if money was, was what was motivating. it's not what's motivating. what's motivating this, fixing the fiscal balance sheet of the united states and using the hammer of the federal reserve to get it done. shameless plug for all my,
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all my work over the last few years. but it's the same thing with bobby kennedy and the say i'm and so again, again, i watched i looked at kennedy and he's like canada in the rock. right. but at the same time, he's also picking up and putting down, talking points that the the dnc has no answer to. i never actually put them in a really big bind when we start getting into the primary season with gavin bruce. them i get, this is not fun. what are they going to do is come all the harris and how they got a spirit of habit existence and all of this up when you was thinking about this this morning. i had to do a pops out for my for my next grade, right. before i came on this morning and i, i kept saying that my, the, this over and over and i'm like, i have all these things that the democrats have to deal with, likes, they've got to get rid of bite and they've got to get rid of, they got a sideline harris, they've got to get past the g o p, a stablish that they've got all these different factors. and none of the results with bobby kennedy and the right and the race. it just doesn't the,
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everybody and steve, like once we get to the primary season, then what are they going to do? just to bring the vote count. what are the, you know, what do you do? there's, this is a really interesting moment in time. and again, i'm not, i'm not on board with them. dorsey? anybody get 2016 peter like you was checked out, mike button for trump and then he started like doing weird stuff like touching the 3rd rail of politics at the time which was is real and going and just being trump, i'm like, this is great. i've got people are like, or i have to say that this guy that the 2nd cap, nato, and things like that. and now and now kennedy is doing that as well. so, i mean, this is all very, very important. and he knows he don't want to say 100. don't forget that you, you mentioned about the 3rd layer. i'm going to say just a shameless plug in a month from yesterday. i turn 65. yeah. so i'm walking around and i'm left to is a lot. i'm telling everybody's listening to me more of the things. i never forget
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it very quickly. they did a study between young people and old people and young people with really good at doing like you to walk them all mental stuff. very good. older folks were much better at telling the difference between this picture and that picture of what's different, what's missing, what's changed. and they attributed that to judgment. the ability to weigh 2 seemingly similar situations, but seeing the difference and being able to say this is different plus, we've been around where we've been through history. i remember we know you can state l b, j nixon, watergate, vietnam. so this is kind of familiar and what i'm seeing right now, there was a paradigm shift. everything's changing, including the way the news is delivered, which in many respects is its own religion, is a fox news. and others is the control demolition interesting joys of words of what was a platform. it's done. it's finished. look what happened was sign our i keep bringing up tucker. i'm not the biggest fan, but that was
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a pivotal moment. people are looking for new sources. joe rogan, is the most important person in media today. joe rogan, not, not sean hannity. that's like real or being r. levine is like, what are you talking about? bobby kennedy knows exactly what he's doing and there's something about him, and i'll tell you what i saw. you don't get a rustle. she says, well, i'm not in a tea bag. sure. i just wanted vaccines to be safe. anybody got a problem with that? and people say, you know what? i just thought about that. that's right, that's why do you want your child to die in finland for what again? oh my god, i never thought about that. we are a group of, of, of, of the country of lemmings. we started flying that ukrainian fly. i couldn't find it on a map. i'm calling in the ukraine. why does that donald, we, we didn't even know the landscape from a hole on the ground. and people have really thought about this nurse a wait a minute. and guess what? if he goes after a band and democrats gaze the gay, contented, who were so upset with his t part of it, they don't know what to do. black folks,
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asians, people who've been left left out of the equation and here in new york where we are being we're, if you can make it to the dentist, the funk of, of, of pot smoke. we're being deluged with this with this wave of humanity. and nobody can figure out who they are, why they're here, where they're going, or, or who is in charge. believe me now is the time at one last name. joe biden is as old as mick jagger. thank you very much. these a why we say that was trending on twitter yesterday. why mr. account? when, when turtle neck was, was i have this stroke on, which was i hate to make part of next, but then again, he's so while i don't care, you know, aside, i couldn't tell. i mean, the people say, well, look at him, i said, but the domain is right in the data particularly bright. this is a who is be in your mind, who is the b r f k junior voter. and he's at this point,
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the person who understands that the, by the ministration has been an absolute mess in a way that is that they understand that this is not what happened to trump like this is, this is bad. these people are insane and they've pushed us and they push the united states itself to kind of breaking point. and they don't want to vote for trumpet, because trump for years that so who was body kennedy's co work? everyone else? every normal person in america who is like something is not right is not right here . there's something rotten in the state of denmark, or in the case of washington dc. the, it's the people who, you know, congress has what a 7 percent approval rating. the media has a 12 percent of bro. busy anything or whatever it is, it's don't mean everybody sees it. we know that they know that we know that they know that we see it, it's all here. it's all staring as in the past, and the question is going to be, are they going to allow us to have
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a voice or not when they've already told us that we don't have a voice? like it's. yeah, it's, this is what this has been the last the last 7 years. can they beat us down to the point where they say we don't have a voice? i don't, i don't what out of the house? very often. gus, i'm most days. i'm barely fit for human consumption, but when i do go out, i go out in a hand with my, my, my millennial board in friends on wednesday nights and sometimes on fridays and saturdays. and i talked to them and i get this general fatal. the state holiday that they have in a way that is actually splendidly different than even my generation. and the question now is whether or not they even care and where the well this, you know, they will, they come out for, for anybody. i don't know the line. no, it is it's, it's a seems to, to me that there is a very strong awareness that something is very, very wrong. and here is that is the ultimate inside. or, i mean, bobby, it's a more political history than probably any person on
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a live on the planet. if you think about it, okay. and then it's very much like a trump and pitch. i know the system cuz i was part of it. bobby has been able to play the same thing. he knows a lot about politics. you really have to it. it does validate. they certainly knows a lot about. let me think. gibson is 6 skin. i mean trump scott fix getting bobby's got bicker vinyl. we don't. couple of things here are years ago i, i me that i'm like to politics per se, but i think one of the greatest politicians ever was reagan. he was about bad. he couldn't say it a bad way. and he said, well, you know, we loved him now, but he was a genius is that he would ask, are you better know or better off now than you were 4 years ago? i would change different. this would be bobby kennedy. do you one for more years or this? and that's it. if you $14.00, do you want 4 more years of those got going to be my gosh, at trump is that the one time he said? gimme a just, how bad can i be? i would have to lose. yes. yes. and what do you do then?
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i was going back to what you said. right? yeah. like you brought up a one last thing is like, you know, brought up the word authenticity right. or, or peter did earlier. this is very important. back in 2016, i wrote one of my early as articles about the authenticity gap between clinton and trump. trump may be fake and boyish and all of this stuff, but at least, but he, but compared to twins, who i mean he might as well be the dalai lama life. you know, in that is it. and that's what's out there on the stage. trump, one of the auction, what you said, you should be in jail like it's, that's the alternate, something that i saw was and i think you're going to probably agree with, even though we may not agree with politics. but bernie sanders is burned. he said, you're so you're not kidding. but i saw in brooklyn on a very cold afternoon, a bunch of young people crying. they loved him and when he basically was hose. in fact, if he goes i'm, i will go to these young people and say, are you going to let them do that again to you? you are hose by your, by hillary clinton. now you can do one of 2 things because he does come across
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never he's 70 years. oh, that's right. i know i have, i had to jump in here. we're really bumping up against us. i'm living here. i want to take my guess in new york at north florida and want to think that'd be worse for watching us either r t c and next time. remember prospect most the time i'm or acceptance and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. you do not watch my new show search like why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else work of it. please do have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't want marshall stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time,
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