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i said this was the question, did you say stephen twist, which is the the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered i'm funeral about was afraid of robert f. kennedy junior. well, apparently everyone in the political establishment and mainstream media very much like donald trump. he says, what do you think liberal pious, he's be damned, or k junior is fear,
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because he's fearless the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal, the media analyst and in north florida we have tom longo. he is publisher of the gold goats and guns blog and newsletter. alright gentlemen cross that bridge and in fact that means it can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, i know it's got to go to you in new york um, a little high probably on my part of my introduction there. um, uh, i'm not endorsing a robert f kennedy junior, but very much like be to 2016 but presidential campaign, which i was gonna skip this way. you know, it's a little, it's domestic politics. and then there was a guy named donald trump and then there was a guy named bernie sanders. well, bernie sanders blamed, berg and crashed. trump is the width is but robert f kennedy is changing the way
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this campaign is being looked at a much to disagree and of the establishment and the media thoughts. hi, this week my wife and i went to see about we kennedy junior at a event here which volleyball t uh when he was dis invited to the center for ethical culture because he of course, but were not i became an anti semite. bobby can the juniors and that you somebody because he dare to suggest that there might be, believe it or not, they demographic or genetic component to different diseases like oh, i don't know, tay sachs and then a sickle cell anyway, make a long story short. he had to redeem himself. he was uninvited, at the center of the go, called your were robert oppenheimer with the school texting. you know, she was moved a gentleman cuz it was a, a, it was one stock needs. coachella needs uh, firing line people from f, and here's the best part. every demographic, i've seen a little babbage years chip, easy. these old young black white gave you straight. she has done what,
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what trump has done. i am writing his name in no matter what. and one more be i don't want to speak too much. my dream, my crazy dream is vice president is tucker carlson. to drive people from the white glove. there's going to drive people from the right. bobby drives people from the left. we disintegrate this left, right. this, this ridiculous illusion of the left right paradigm because ronald reagan, they left a mike punch was into a carry leg. and you gentlemen, knowing what you know will be also viable candidates because it's about connecting . so here the greatest thing, and that's why gavin newsome is going to be set up jos on his way out as evidence this week. by, by 100, please. so the world, it is a change. it, it seems like, why don't you read tom's blog? think about the fair enough yet, and i advise everybody to know it's very interesting. one of the things that really
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sticks out is that, but um, is more popular among republican best interest in the democratic voters. okay. this is a really interesting thing. yes. and also talk you said in your, in your recent blog and i'm paraphrasing, i go down because i don't want to take it out of context. robert f kennedy junior is more of a threat than trump explain yourself. oh, because i really do think that it when they want to pull the plug on trump, they can legally and i and it's not because trump should be in the legal trouble or that he did anything wrong. but this is just the way they, they operate and more over i think that the kennedy is safer than trump. kennedy doesn't re, or people like trump does like the trump rings out. they are rational in a lot of people. and it's for this reason that even though i'm, you know, i don't have a hard time believing that joe biden got 81000000 boats. i can also make an
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argument that, you know, donald trump is so divisive that every body just came off. the sidelines is that, you know, want to get rid of this guy. and because i believe the gas light in, or they, or however you want to put it like it. so for that reason you gotta think, ok, kennedy is not, he's not that guy. and so he's reasonably acceptable to republicans because he's talking about, you know, it's, it's, it's, the one is as final point it, he's the guy who can reach the center better than from can. because trump polls fairly with the center of soccer much she just does. and it's, that's the reality of it. so, you know, in some ways, i think they can be trump in this day, depending on how things play out. because if they can now, now, so typically if i'm the democrats, what i'm doing, but i'm able at and i go, all right, how do we, how do we deal with bobby kennedy? we get rid of him and we leave trump in the game to run against gavin bruce. and because that is the perfect set up for them to steal the auction again.
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well, you know what, it's the authenticity of them in here line like, i don't know if you saw bobby's interview you on the breaking points a few months ago and it was just sent in a bomb and nation. and it was a typical m s. m b c, i got never let him answer the question. okay, never let him answer a question. okay. and then he is on bill mar, which was kind of, he's always kind of bizarre, but he's a real intellectual, bobby kennedy. here's a very interesting things to say. now again, i want to practice as you know, not that i agree all the time, but there's a person that makes me sit and watch the entire thing, which is very rare in our media environment. blind doesn't open, but much, much splits disabused ourselves of feeling that we always have to say. you know, not that i agree with them because you have an idea, but we're talking about vaccines and let, let me just say something before i get to it. if i had to advise bobby
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a couple of things at 1st, lose the vaccine narrative. you said you've spoken, move on, give me a narrow to give him, give me a worldview, talking about other things. show me the bread, go to what really a, a hits people. number 2, there's an, there's an intellectual part of them, which is nice, but america is on intellectual. we want to feel something we want to connect. tell me something that's important. number 3, as far as from goes, i love trump, the way i used to like the ramones, it was a weird acquired taste. you wouldn't want to play it at a wedding. i appreciate what they did in the scheme of things, but are they going to be taught 40 trump? we have developed an allergy to him. the trauma of 2016, it's over is vaudeville, bell, bottoms. disco. it's most styled you for his own good for the rest of us plus she will be don't you think gentlemen, who will be far more effective as e m a knows grees as the the grandmother of the kingmaker. he wouldn't be with one tweak. i'm going to say this, there's no power in being the president. there is no,
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that's not if you want to change things. if you want to make my favorite movie is the murmur races of starlings, how they move, and this has make i how do they do? and is that what he does? and believe me, gavin gross images a, which i'm going to steal repeatedly by when police down gavin is their last chance . it's the hail mary. and by the way it's going to be gretchen whitmore as his number 2 because already there they are. oh yeah. they are scaring and one more thing. the big money dams who basically came in the, the shuttle government folks who contaminated this democratic party are now realizing folks, this is not, you know, a general mutilation and puberty. bob blockers, where in the hell they, they've come from, no stop. they've lost control. it's very interesting. it's all good. this the, the, everybody knows i'm a conservative, i'm very open to body parts, but there's, there's so many is so many people that i did want to listen to bobby kennedy. and
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it's like, and i, i recognize his politics, which the politics of is his father and an uncle. okay. i mean, and it's not that i agree with the, but i recognize that i don't recognize the left right now. it's for me, it's as babble. i have no idea what they're talking about, but i know it's not good for me. i know that for sure. and i think that's what bobby kennedy does. people, they can understand what he's talking about without being threatened, without being a feel like if they're being talked down to. i think i think people do like uh, having intelligent conversation. i think that's it. that demonstrates how popular podcasts are now, because there's a long form you can really go out and do a deep dive. and every time i listen to him, talk about something, not about vaccines or anything else. but like maybe he could completely made the sean hannity a full on his own program. and now are a good that are doing the pro, pro canada, the audience. and they were cheering for bobby,
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not for the stupidity that the hannity of wood stone display every single night, monday through friday. right. i mean, there's a couple of things here. i, i like this is the thing and kennedy strategy and what she elucidated on the rug and podcast. right. was very clear. i, i my, my, my partner in crime over gold rush and i'm just extra wife said, dude, you must listen to a watch. the whole thing in the state of the end, you have to listen to the whole thing. like i know you don't have time on that you're over scheduled. i know you don't want to do it. i did it. now i got done with it most out on the porch, my wife. well, she was doing a pottery and we listen to the whole thing together. and we got to the last 20 minutes where he laid out his strategy. and i'm like, he's running the 2016 trunk playbook except he's not using twitter. he's going to use twitter, but he's you think belong for media of podcast in order to break through what? well, i know talked about not, you know, get them on m. s. nbc,
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so they can interrupt them and they can, they can run their script just like don't let them talk in front of congress. and so that'd be awesome. and shelves could sit there and brand this dance. and all, i mean this is the, this is the play, right? this is the pantomime that we all go through and how scripted all the stuff is. and clearly the, we live in the golden age of pod casting because people want something better. and they block better discourse and they're demanding better discourse. and if they're gonna shut us up in our homes and tell our kids that the only, uh, the, the only value they have, society is consuming as a little food as possible, playing video games and watching porn hub brand. these kids are going to listen to on off a lot of pod cast as their media. they're not going to listen to the cnn. cnbc is. and so kennedy knows that he can break through that. so i agree with you while vinyl. yeah, i mean the vaccine stuff is important. get rid of the cum trails do like this is the stuff that like drives me. not absolutely all, but focus on pollution. not climate change. your advisor, fire mental books is
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a buyer. mental bone advisor outstanding and he's doing is talking about the one thing that environmentalist never talked about. asked me bullshit. the thing that everybody agrees about know which read take exactly, which is nonsense to write a ball slip, right? the bible, they always do the status against each other and play the strauss in 2 steps needs as it does this synthesis march broad minus towards brands of solitary knows. and that's what they always do, like this is this done, british and my 6 stop and it just bothers me to know when we break through that. we move on a jump in the way by the way, that table. but aside from that, i don't want to print pretty well. we have uh, a couple of things, but straight distress took it from head. oh, sorry, no like space. um i know you sound like your apart, your pads. buchanan mc somebody does a cold, were just kidding, 2 things. um they, they lapse my load, your browser, they like that the, are they on the left side of the, are with the, with the radios they,
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they even thought that lincoln was unprofessional, because he actually took pictures. but let me throw something and i agree with you . what we got. i think the 3 of us secretly believe we would never say on the campaign trail because people can't handle it because people are children. just like if we had a restaurant, everything that we liked to eat, we wouldn't put out there. we want to go for what's popular to why i agree with this g o engineering not now, you know, flatter not now, not ever, but a couple of things but, but the whole that, that line on a couple of things. hold up. i, we're going to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the candidacy of robert f. kennedy junior state with r t the the
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more expensive. and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do, do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to planes or do they have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations. choose your fax for you, go ahead. i changed and whatever you do. don't marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way the welcome back to the problem stuff were all things are considered. i and peter
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lavelle, this is the home editions remind you were discussing the candidacy of robert f. kennedy junior. the i just go back to the do you want to do mention a few points before we went to our hard break it? yeah. garb allow, said another conspiracy theorist. i mean, i'm a gets thursday analyst, but i got to tell you this much, and you can disagree all you want. but if we can put bobby kennedy on the couch and say, bobby, i think we know the people responsible for your father in your uncle, or whether or not the, the named actors in this particular passion play, you know, and, and i know what number to your own family, including josh was bag school was pulled up to this, this uh, this where he kind of a hostage video where he is. he is crashing him. bobby kennedy to the point where he said, you know what, i'm 70 years old. i'm going to go out and i'm going to make a mark and let me also say something. the people that i could destroy,
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the people who destroyed my family. i took away my father and i was a kid for the people who are pushing joe by. and so what a beautiful way for me to leave my mark and my legacy to buy up and to get and believe it or not, this is for you dad. don't think there isn't a part of him that said i'm going to get because he has been against. remember she took this battle on it gets big pharma knowing, knowing where they were like, she loves this stuff and what a way to bring the entire left, right? parent i am down and don't think that doesn't wake in his subconscious. and that's his good spirit, though. tauriel as i'm going to be today, at least any open line. well, i haven't had such an interesting observation. yeah, i thought about this you, why is he doing this, lisa? 70 years old. he's extremely well off. i mean, there's no more royal name in american politics. than kennedy, i mean he's made the shade and is it pretty good shape? yeah. well, okay. i mean, why the hell should do it? i think a lot of this game is the explanation. what do you think?
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well, i would say this is also, it also goes back to the one of my favorite articles that ever read in my life, which is the old very north top layer. a big thing, which is that a man's life can be laid out as a 3 layer cake when you're a young man and you look for yourself when you, when you become a middle, a very general family, you start living through a family. and then once your family's round, you now have to leave a legacy behind. how do you want to be? remember? who do you want to do? do you want everyone, what, what's going on at the end of the day, who shows up to your funeral? right. so this is what's driving men like trump, this is what's driving them like kennedy. it's what's driving a lot of just like driving me, i don't know about you guys, but the drives me every day. right? so like at the end of the day, i'd like my daughters know the ground, this is my, this is my next phase of my life, right? and this is important, like so why is he doing it? it's the same argument as to why jerome powell is that still at the federal reserve man's where the $100000000.00 should have went back to private equity during the 0 bound interest rates. daniel the martino. but back to this point all the time could
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be a multi billionaire. at this point, if money was, was what was motivating. it's not what's motivating. what's motivating this, fixing the fiscal balance sheet of the united states and using the hammer of the federal reserve to get it done. shameless plug for all my, all my work over the last few years. but it's the same thing with bobby kennedy and the state. and. and so again, again, i watched i looked at kennedy and he's like canada in the rock. right. but at the same time, he's also picking up and putting down, talking points that the the dnc has no answer to. i never actually put them in a really big bind when we start getting into the primary season with gavin bruce them, i guess this is not fun. what are they going to do is come all the harris and how they're going to spirit, good habit existence and all of this up when you was thinking about this this morning. i had to do a pops out for my for my news next week, right. before i came on this morning and i, i kept saying them, i did this over and over and i'm like, i have all these things that the democrats have to deal with bikes. they've got to
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get rid of bite and they've got to get rid of, they got a sideline harris, they've got to get past the g o. p, a stablish that they've got all these different factors. and none of the results with bobby kennedy and the right and the race. it just doesn't the, everybody in states like once we get to the primary season, then what are they going to do just to break the boat? how. what did you know? what do you do? there's, this is a really interesting moment in time and again, i'm not, i'm not on board, but then dorsey, anybody get 2016 peter like you, i was checked out on like a board and for trump and then he started like doing weird stuff like touching the 3rd, rail of politics at the time, which was, is real and go in and just being trump, i'm like a, this is great. i brought about our life, or they have to say that this guy, the 2nd count nato and things like that. and now, and now kennedy is doing that as well. so, i mean, this is all very, very important that he knows you don't want the good. i never forget that you, you mentioned by the 3rd lawyer. i gotta say, just a shameless plug in
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a month from yesterday, i turned $65.00. yeah. so i'm walking around and i must lose a lot. i'm telling everybody. listen to me more of the things. i never forget this very quickly. they did a study between young people and old people and young people with really good at doing like you to walk them all mental stuff. very good. older folks were much better at telling the difference between this picture and that picture of what's different, what's missing, what's changed. and they attributed that to judgment. the ability to weigh 2 seemingly similar situations, but seeing the difference and being able to say this is different plus, we've been around where we've been through history. i remember, you know, you can say l b j nixon, water gate, vietnam. so this is kind of familiar and what i'm seeing right now, there was a paradigm shift. everything's changing, including the way the news is delivered, which in many respects is its own religion, is a fox news,
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and others is the control demolition interesting. joy is the worst of what was a platform. it's done. it's finished. look what happened was signing our i keep bringing up tucker. i'm not the biggest fan, but that was a pivotal moment. people are looking for new sources. joe robin is the most important person in media today. joe rogan, not, not sean hannity. that's like real irving r levine is like, what are you talking about? bobby kennedy knows exactly what he's doing and there's something about him. and i'll tell you what i saw. you don't get a russell, she says, well, i'm not in a tea bag. sure. i just wanted vaccines to be safe. anybody got a problem with that and people say, you know what? i've thought about that. that's what, that's why do you want your child to die in finland for what again? oh my god, i never thought about that. we are a group of, of, of, of the country of lemmings. we started flying, the ukrainian fly. i couldn't find that on. i'm back, i'm calling in the ukraine like the donald we,
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we didn't even know the landscape from a hole on the ground. and people have really thought about this nurse a wait a minute. and guess what? if he goes after a band and democrats gaze the gay, contented, who were so upset with his t part of it, they don't know what to do. black folks, asians, people who've been left left out of the equation. and here in new york where we are being, we're, if you could make it to the dentist, the funk of, of, of pot smoke. we're being deluged with this, with this wave of humanity. nobody can figure out who they are, why they're here, where they're going, or, or who is in charge. believe me now is the time at one last name. joe biden is as old as mick jagger. thank you very much. these a why we say that was trending on the wonder yesterday when mr. bershard, when, when turtle neck was, was i have just a stroke on which was i, i hate to make fun of missed, but then again, he's so evil. i don't care, you know, aside i couldn't tell. i mean, the people say, well, look at them, i said,
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but the domain is right and i got it. right. this is a who is they? in your mind, who is the b r f k junior voter and he's at this point the person who understands that the, by the ministration has been an absolute mess in a way that is that they understand that this is not what happened to trump like this is, this is bad, these people are insane and they've pushed us and they push the united states itself to kind of breaking up. and they don't want to vote for trumpet, because trump for years that so who is body kennedy's co work? everyone else? every normal person in america who is like something is not right is not right here . there's something rotten in the state of denmark, or in the case of washington dc. the, it's the people who, you know, congress has what a 7 percent approval rating. the media has a 12 percent of bro. busy anything or whatever it is,
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it's don't mean everybody sees it. and we know that they know that we know that they know that we see it. it's all here. it's all staring is in the face. and the question is going to be, are they going to allow us to have a voice or not when they've already told us that we don't have a voice like it's yeah, it's, this is what this has been the last the last 7 years. can they beat us down to the point where they say we don't have a voice? i don't about what out of the house. very often. gus, i'm most days. i'm barely fit for human consumption. but when i do go out, i go out in a hand with my, my, my millennial board again, friends on wednesday nights and sometimes somebody's and saturdays, and i talk to them. and i get this general fatal the state holiday that they have in a way that is actually splendidly different than even my generation. and, and the question now is whether or not they even care and with the will they say, you know, they will, they come out for, for anybody. i don't know the line. no, it is. it's if this seems to, to me that there is
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a very strong awareness that something is very, very wrong. and here's that is the ultimate inside. or, i mean, bobby, and say more political history than probably any person on a live on the planet. if you think about it, okay, and then it is very much like a trump the and pitch. i know the system cause i was part of it. bobby has been able to play the same thing. he knows a lot about politics. you really have to it. but that's about it, they certainly knows a lot about let me think, gives him, is 6 skin trunk. scott figg skin bobby's got bicker, vinyl. we don't. couple of things here are years ago. i, i me that i'm like to politics per se, but i think one of the greatest politicians ever was reagan. he was about bad. he couldn't say it a bad thing. and he said, well, you know, we loved him. nobody was a genius either. he would ask, or you better know or better off now than you were 4 years ago. i would change i different. this would be bobby kennedy. do you one for more years of this?
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and that's it. if you want for do you want 4 more years of those got going to be my gosh. and trump is that the one time he said, gimme a just how bad can i be? i love to have to lose. yes. yes. well, you have to, i was going back to what you said the like you brought up a one last thing is like he, i know brought up the word authenticity right or repeat or did earlier, this is very important. back in 2016, i wrote one of my early as articles about the authenticity gap between clinton and trump. trump may be fake and boyish and all of this stuff, but at least, but he compared to quinn, who i mean, he might as well be the dalai lama life. you know, in that is it. and that's what's out there on the stage. trump one the auction, what he said, you should be in jail like it's, that's the alternate somebody that i saw was and i think you're going to probably agree with, even though we may not agree with politics. but bernie sanders is burned. he said, you're so you're not kidding. but i saw in brooklyn on a very cold afternoon,
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a bunch of young people crying. they loved him. and when he basically was housed, in fact, if he goes i'm, i will go to these young people and say, are you going to let them do that again to you? you are host by your but by hillary clinton. now you can do one of 2 things because he does come across never he's 70 years old and frankly no, i have, i have to jump in here. we're really bumping up against that time lemon here. i want to take my guess in new york at north florida and want to think that'd be worse for watching us here. r t z. and next time, remember, prospect was the, the claims of the king of the belgians leopold the 2nd to the congo were finally authorized by the leading european countries in 18. 85. in the very heart of the
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