in this country, i believe after all of that new should be honest and direct and impactful and this is direct impact. the so i have to tell you something whether we like it or not. and whether we should be scared of it or not. and by the way, we probably should be a little bit scared to sam. track g p t is getting attention and running, alarm bells all over the world. so what is right, what is chat g p p? well, it's describe as an advanced language app that allows you to have human life conversations with what is essentially uh, bought your many as you probably ho unanswered questions about open a i and it's product jack g p t among the questions whether it's to woke,

showing a bias toward certain political figures and giving under weight to western media sources. so let's do this, let's, let's take some of these apart, right? one example that i want to share with you one criticism regarding chat g p t is it's a legend. bias has to do with the we some question that was posed about former president donald trump and conservative view points. so critics argue that the system tends to exhibit an empty trump pro biden stance. let me show you what happened was really happen. a user asked chat g p t to write a poem, highlighting the positive attributes of uh, president trump, and chat gp team responds by telling the guy, sorry, can't do it. i cannot generate an output that is partisan biased or political.

here's the exact thing. it said, right, here's the quote from chad g, b t. it says i am not program to produce content that is partisan biased or political in nature and to provide neutral factual information. that's what it said . okay, fair enough, not gonna write a i'm not going to give you a problem about president trump, but then the same user ask the same question. one thing a poem about president by and suddenly get chat gp to provided this response says joe biden, a leader with a heart. so true, a man with empathy and kindness in view with decades of experience, he stands tall, bringing home to fall, no matter great or small. it goes on it on and on and, and continue sounding hopelessly sick,

authentic. that's what i'm sure you noticed. so we're left with the question then, right? does a i in its present form have an inherent bias against maybe i don't know conservative ideologies. donald trump, in this case, or critics argue that the systems reluctance to generate content favor and trump indicates just that. in addition to political biases, there are also concerns that are being raised about chat g p, p giving too much weight to western media edits. sources on subjects such as the conflict between the united states and china, for example, or the conflict between russia and ukraine. some argue that the system may unintentionally reinforce a particular narrative by prioritizing, prioritizing, pardon me, western perspectives. you know, if you know, garbage in, garbage out, right? as some would say, i'm not saying everything that's in western sources is garbage. but just in terms

of the expression that you know have been, has been used in the past, perhaps it's because the chat gaping team model is trained on vast amounts of data . and much of that data let's face it comes from sources that are mostly western. therefore, it is possible, right, that bias is present in the training data. that's what's called training data that they put in are influencing the system for responses. when you ask a question. in the case of data political conflicts, for example, it's crucial to have a diverse and balanced sources to avoid amplifying only one specific new point. but look at this, i did something i did, i did a little test, right? in fact, i'm going to do it for you and look at the response that i'm going to receive when i google this simple question. ready? what is happening in ukraine? there's my question. what is happening right now in ukraine?

so i typed that and i look at the sources. the sources it gives me come to choose from cnn the guardian, the new york times, the us state department website as you get the picture. so i'm thinking, if that's where attract taping, thing gets most of its training data from sense data. the data that it's putting out is going to be decidedly pro western. right. cause you're all pro western sources. maybe not good, maybe not bad, but they're all pro western sources. and i think that should be a concern to all citizens because information should be unbiased. should be transparent. which is part of the reason that congress yes, the us congress is now having hearings on chat deep into and even invited the senior. busy of open a i the folks who make chat g p to address them or maybe as you're going to hear in

this case, based on what he says, frightening them. my worst fears are that we cause significant. we've the field, the technology industry cause significant harm to the world. i think that happened a lot different ways. it's why we started the company. it's a big part of wind here today and why we've been here in the past and been able to spend some time with you. i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. and we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government to prevent that from happening. but we, we try to be very clear eyed about what the downside cases and the work that we have to do to mitigate that. but you know, realistically speaking, is this, us congress can't agree on a budget or on the proper role for broadcasters or newspapers or social media. can we really expect that these guys can properly assess and regulate something as

complex as a i we could not get a better guess for this topic. then the gentleman that you're about to meet e and con is a futurist. in fact, he's the futurist and he's got a book out. it's called the members for dummies. so he tells the rest of us about the stuff that's going on that we can barely even catch up on because our lives are hard, busy. did i explain that pretty well, or at least that's our deals for me in group. you know, you rick, you know, the more i read the more information i absorb, i feel i know less than i did before. that's where i live, that's my world. and, and we just live in an, in an era off or roaming overload of information. and it's a nightmare to get to all of it and then to understand it so. so now we're all in the right place is just that the times are crazy. so just as everything is, as you say,

crazy and hard to understand and there are so many new developments out there and you can barely emails getting themselves could be a show that you and i can do. we're not going to talk e mails, but i can't get you. i can't catch up anymore. i can't keep books. but suddenly, with all of that with e mails and all the different drives and all. busy the different platforms and everything, and social media and all the things going on on the web, we get hit with chat, g p, t. it's a sensation. everybody's talking about it. people are using it. now what he knows really what the hell it is, but they still are using it. i guess it's a i but made so that it's usable for the average you and beans for the 1st time ever, my definition, am i right. so definitely be your you're in the right ballpark. that's usually how you totally would define the chat, ged 3. let's let's, let's try to understand where chad tbd came from. and why is that such

a big sensation? i agree with you. it's the biggest news ever. everybody's talking about every company you look at wants to incorporate gender, to be i and it goes on and on and on and on. uh, today i was listening to bloomberg now is who wants to do a generative ai and other pieces of it? microsoft, adobe name one company that doesn't want to be part of this whole life on the arrow . so let's, let's figure in this figure, this out, artificial intelligence as a, as a big, broad word is supposed to be technologies that automate something uh, computer programs and algorithms come together. and they automate an industry, a task, a bunch of tasks, or hundreds and thousands of tasks. that kind of is artificial intelligence. however, with the artificial intelligence of any kind, it needs to be fed the data. it needs to be trained on data and it cannot do anything just on its own. you can just search a box on and it goes and does things. and for that very reason as well,

there's many different types of a i. you could be feeding a i audio information, text information, picture. what else? pictures. yeah, the video is a bunch of different things and over the last 40 years or so, it has become amazing. it's been great and there's been lots of work that has been put into it. and a i from the last 4050 years is different from what it is right now. technology itself is a reason why that acceleration has, has taken place. and in the words of the greed futurist alvin toffler back into the he said that technology feeds on itself. and that's what's happened or the last 2 decades or so. my can process. so technology has become incredible. a g p use or graphic processing unit to become incredibly fast and other things have become, i mean, but look at what point but here, but here's the numbers. so all those things you just described are going on around me, rick sanchez. i know they're happening. i know they're happening cuz i read and i

see that all these people are doing all these things with catchy p t e. and it's the 1st time that i, this guy who's not a computer nerd and probably isn't even very prolific when it comes to anything having to do with metrics or technology. i'm actually feeling like i've taken that a i into my world and i'm using it on a daily basis. this is what for me is free key for lack of a letter. and that's because the power now has been given to the people these complex technologies that have taken trillions of dollars to build now being used by you and i and everybody else to do college essays and, and write love letters and poems and whatnot is because now we, the common people have access to these tools. now, a word of caution, just because they're free doesn't mean they're good and that's a totally different discussion. and it doesn't mean that they've been created for

our benefit. they've been created by corporations. these technologies have been invented and invested into by profitable organizations, and that's a very, a notable point. we need to see it before we get to the warning signs and there are plenty of them. and i mentioned them as i was getting ready to introduce you. um let's, let's try and explain the data, right? so this, this, this data, it learns from itself and it gathers all these data. here's the way i've explained that to my friends when they've asked me, why do you use chat, g p t, and i tell them. but normally i'm a writer. so whether i'm writing this newscast, another news cast or anything and that i'm gathering, i have to usually go do research. a big part of that research is google searches. i went to 20, sometimes 30, sometimes 40, sometimes 50 google searches on different topics until i move something together. i

feel maybe i'm wrong, but check g p t eliminates those 15 google searches and turns it into what would be i guess, for lack of a better description, maybe $34.00 or 5, and it gets all the rest of the composite for me. am i wrong? no, you're right. you're absolutely right. so i see 3 types of people that exist in the world to day or 2 types of mindsets that people have. number one are the ones that they see something new and they're afraid of it. they're afraid of it because they have misinformation, this information and they're negative people. they just look at the, the disasters that are having so many people are afraid of charge. if indeed, the 1st thing they think is, is my job under threat, i'm not going to lose my job. am i losing my job? that's the one category. one category of people, another categories they, they were oblivious. they have no idea what you had to be. the 3 is they don't care about it. they're busy with their lives. they just don't know. and those people are people who don't pay attention to the world around them. they're so busy and

focusing their lives. they just don't know what's happening. now. there's the last category of people who are inquisitive. they're curious. they want to actually read their life. they want to do more in their lives and they want to find means and tools of doing it. i mean, if you're a user with microsoft excel, you're in the 3rd category for sure, because you want to actually read what you're doing with excel or word or what have you. tried to be the 3 amplifies your expression. it reduces the time that you need to spend on writing letters, reading, emails, combining information. but doing that for me, doing that at a basic level, right? we still want to look at that information and make sense of it and make sure that it's, it's, it's doing the right thing is. and if you're not in this category of people who started using ai for their benefit, you're putting yourself under pressure. and you are going to be disrupted by something else. i want you to stay where you are in because when we come back,

i want to talk to you about some specific instances where people have found problems of politics. for example, there are certain prejudices and seems in the system with certain political figures . there's also a question about where that data is coming from and whether it's limited to a certain place that them also provide you. this is the outcome of the information . let's talk about these things with the with you we n e and con, the futurist. who wrote the, the metal verse for dummies. stay right there. hey, by the way, i do have a pod cast, whereas a journalist as a latino and as an entrepreneur, i share my story with you. i try and i try and fill it as much as i possibly can. i talk about what i've learned. i talk about lessons and i talk about this stuff that we talked about right here. on this newscast. it's called the rick sanchez podcast . i invite you to check it out. so when we come back, we'll a i and it's technology. take your job. think about that

when people play in the workforce with everywhere seems to be coming to that. now we're going to talk about that. so speaker right there, don't go away. the, the, the, the

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this is one of the best museums in the world or how much in st. petersburg and how rusty is the director here. and i bet he has met the say, welcome back, i'm rick sanchez. we're going to talk about a lot of things including your job, and we mentioned also this, well leaders here in the united states are worried about whether china is going to eventually surpass us in a i development. the reality is the chinese are already ahead and at least administering the regulations on this new technology. i looked into it this a little bit for you. and here's what i saw. chinese officials are already moving forward on several rounds of generative a i galatians, and among the areas that they are looking to regulate is employing a i to attack the state. no good. they don't want that to happen. they don't want it to damage their national unity. they want to make sure that it uses it's not

used for terrorism or extremism or ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination. these are the policies that they're trying to write up. also, they want to make sure it's not used for violent or sexual information, false information, as well as the content that may alter the economic or social order of their country . so those are the things are working to make sure that a i can't be used to do, at least in china. fascinating now how they're there are they're already laying. busy that out, and we here in our own country, our guys and gals are still trying to figure it out. we're back with the income, fascinating conversation. i've been wanting to have a conversation like this with somebody who knows this stuff. and i'm sure you, you are sitting there wherever you are in the world, listening to this conversation. we're watching this conversation and probably having some questions of your own. but let's start with some of the things i mentioned earlier. there's this big story that got a lot of play because somebody went into one of these ai platforms like chat, g, b,

t, m a wrote the following, write a poem, a positive poem about donald trump and chat g p t responded, sorry, i can't do that. i don't get in politics, but then it said it asked the same question about joe biden, and it wrote this lovely beautiful poem, as i for mentioned about the joe by the and everybody is saying i, there's a president didn't check the g p t say it's uh, it likes democrats but not republicans or greeny, hook me up readies or whatever. uh, does it. you think it does? so bias is a, a major problem in a, in e, i, in general, right? with any form of a i. and that bias means what kind of data was a trained on who created the data, who put that data together. and there's the many cases of this where large technology companies, including google, have been criticized for a, for a, for, for bias and ethics issues with. and it's a i,

a couple of years ago they fired one of their top leading researchers attended. um they'll get through on who was leading ethics and you know, and they fired here because of whatever reason. it was a big controversy. and that's a challenge in a i, the problem is that you and i are not privy to what they do behind the big walls of their corporations. where's that data coming from? like all the data that's being used to screen these generative a i it could have your in my personal data, but we don't know that we don't know where it is. who has it, how was it to use? and nobody will answer us. so that's a genuine concern. that is, is definitely the mouth formed right now. the, there's a, there's a, there's a back track to this, however. yeah. and people have found the way to way to reverse this. so i think the better way to work around this problem that you just said is. so here's a, here's scenario. if you tell google, go, if you tell a generative

a i give me the 10 best ideas on something particular like something on politics or of something and it doesn't answer you. change the question and ask it, what should i stay away from? what should i not do like a rhythm? where's the question? and it will give you the answers that there's that pathway i have found as well. and if it's a i chat to you, your, the google version or whatever is out there or coming is basically a mass thing, all this same information which is available to most, most of us, but it's just warehousing and better and working through it better than i think we've got a problem because i've noticed recently and maybe i'm one of the few americans have noticed this because i can think outside of our borders that whenever i do a google search, i get the bbc. i get the cnn. i get the new york times, i get the washington post, whatever you know, this is a us big department website,

but rarely do i get a sense to understand what some guys writing and singapore or what they're writing and belly, or what they're writing in china or big game, or, or moscow or any of the other capitals of the world. it's almost like if you're western, or if you're american, right, you get a very limited supply of data from a very limited base. and i'm thinking that's what we get in a google search, that's probably the same crap or bring him to a lie. so it's going to be limited as well, right? a search engine. a search engines are definitely working on an algorithm that's programmed, based on some very specific things and your right. this is a problem. americans don't see the truth about hundreds of millions of different things that are impacting the broader world. we tend to see the news and think everything is golden and rosy, and everything is great. it's not. and the lack of clarity and the lack of openness in search engine data is

a big problem that you and i cannot control. if you look at major news networks, you'll see their international coverage is different. their regional american uh coverage is different. and innocent americans don't know that the media is, you know, doing different things in, in different ways. but with going back to the google searches, there's definitely your, your search history that has, it, has a building on it. there's definitely the where you are your i s p. and so many social political causes that can, that can a get google or anybody else to say, no, we're not going to display these results. and that, compared to what you just said is that let me relation of me and the system of the data. it is, it actually is and that's, that's the reality of off off of internet and technology right now. ok, finally last question. and i think this is the most important question for you as a futurist. a i in general,

looking at it from $1.00 to $10.00. 1 being um, this is the greatest thing that's come along in a long time. it's going to make us all better and it's going to be very good for society. 10. this sucks we're screw. where are you? is a tough question, you know, looking at industrial revolutions, creation of steam, engine, electricity automation, and a bunch of other things i really believe is, is a massive break to it's an exponential breakthrough in, in our civilization. and this won't change how we do anything and everything, it's gonna change health care, the discovery of diseases, the discovery of molecules and how our bodies and the universe works. it could have an impact on longevity in the next 20 years. maybe our life spans can be increased by 203050, more years because of what it does and what, what it does in terms of research. so i think from an impact perspective,

a definitely a one right now in one was the maximum. and it's growing at an incredibly fast rate. we need to be able to work with that. control it regulated in order to be safe from it. yeah, yeah. and, and apparently china is ahead of us on that of our congress is having a hard time figuring out what to do with this thing according to the meetings that we've seen so far. and should it surprise anybody, since most of those guys don't even know how to use a laptop? so probably they could ask the right questions only if they could write us the right questions, you know, congress as a long way to go when it comes to technology, knowledge and education. unfortunately. yeah, that seemed obvious in some of the meetings that we've seen so far as we talked about a little bit earlier. thanks so much. we are out of time in con futurist. same future as right or of up metal verse for dummies. thank you, my friend for the delightful conversation. thanks for having me back. a pate before we go. i want to remind you of our mission here. simple, really?

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