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hello and welcome to worlds apart. in his former prime minister, i told the heidi washed by one said that you can change your friends, but know if your neighbors these create the would seem self out of them if they're born so many countries still prefer and to hold onto old grievances rather than pursuing the sooner chase of mutual developments. what will it take to change these when lives mentality to discuss it? i'm now joined by so keen, the co coordinate engine, political analyst on former aid to prime minister, washed by mystical garden is great to see. thank you very much for your time. thank you so much. thank you so much. let me start with your early years when you were 1st infected with politics. not as a means of self aggrandizing, but as to me as

a way of facilitating social development. i know that you started off as a marxist, but then got disillusioned. where do you find yourself in ideological terms right now? as i was one, some options. and i have not completely abandoned my microscopes. even though i got disillusioned and deviated from marxism. there was a time when i was young and as so many young people in the globe in the seventy's, in the eighty's, it was very natural to be attracted by marks to them by socialism. because we all are exempt from society, 3 of exploitation and the society full of equality and equal opportunities back to as time went by. i saw marxism in action, which is very different from oxygen and chevy. and we all know how word is changing

the eighty's and on birds. now i feel that there is a need synthesize all the human to stick and positive ideologies and ideas from around the world, including boxes up and create something new. something new that can change the word . and in this i find that to the idea and the ideas of my program, the are and can be a great going to do that because my background, the pair bonded ideas that got a tunnel and you and it was a piece drug or non violent log it's interesting you say the, especially in reference to a hotmail, does it because myself being a child of the ok, so give you any of that. and the student of political and religious ideas i, i find a lot of overlapping between marks is common,

is socialist ideologies and the major religions all of the world. because they are all centered around the ideas of fan as well. which here are freedom of choice with them to pursue your individual national destiny degree to you. they do all of a treating the other as you yourself want to be treated in hub mcdonough is one example of actually putting those ideas into practice. you know, marrying spirituality and politics. do you think it's possible today? because if we look around the world, whenever people bring some sort of religious ideas into the political realm, it seems to be um, well, more divergent then the diverging them unifying. you know, a bed that it is possible. i would like to be answered by asking whether it is necessary. and i think that the ideas and ideals of my book on the i, the similar is also bless on,

necessity the present and the future of when the bank 1st of all gone v was a person who deeply respected every religion in the country or the bus a devout can do like she is respect or shouldn't be for the slums, but it would be them for every other religion was equally deep. and today, you know, bill believe like when people are interconnected and is related in and i'm interested in that might not we have to know each other. we have respect each other and we learn from each other. and this guy was city of the what is not a saw. so because it's a social string because it shows extra minor. the salt rich, so rich and experience, storage and explanation. so origin ideas, storage and cultural backgrounds and of course office creations. now,

i want to quote you specifically because you have read them that history is dominant trends in the 21st century. is tor, the equitable global development assurance global security and democratic global governments. and despite the fact that they've got this illusion the with marx and isn't this actually so much different from what the chrome marx was thinking about back in the 19th century. surely the ways of bringing that about must have changed . but isn't it pretty much the same idea of the humanity has always aspired to, you know, you are right. marks also be utilize the word that is one decade united and that lives in peace with upset. so therefore, i say that we need the basic ideas of moxie will not box has not become outdated. what i've seen in devon also of the

philosophers are the social performers and political leaders on trampled the same. for example, in india, in the india street, a woman is british colonialism. was a source of the men since the nation. luckily for the people of india. but for people all over the white gone be jawad, a lot of nettle, rubbing the, gone all of them, but you knew bustle, people, they felt funny as independence, but they also inspired people around the way. absolutely. by the way, it was a, let me just tell you, because i live here on the, in the northern part of the most on the right in my neighborhood park, there is the monument told her to not to go or so, you know, like into a chewing saying that there were people thinking on the global scale. now you mentioned the words unity and i think this is a very interesting and also very dangerous concept because the united states and the west. collectively i using the unit to you as

a sort of political tactic off uh, pushing everybody under the same opinion under the same. 7 time you know, essentially what i think they're doing is under the slogan, a few unity they're enforcing their own views and doing that's quite important also to terry in ways how do you distinguish between of that would take unity. um lets say joe political unity that is used as a, as a tactic of enforcing the privilege position. the to a pending meaning of unity means that deep suspects. diversity. julie, they cannot be critically uniform, but the what the united states is going is imposing its own hang on money or continuing their single money in the name of all of all of idea of unity which is as but its own. a company that must be rejected,

and that is indeed being rejected. a good deal of mankind beans that you must accept and respect and celebrate. but you must stay. why should you schuman civilizations in terms of odd sky, just fitting for traditions, philosophies, intellectual, scientific, and logical pursuits. oh, this is a common head of visual commodity. and back is out of this diversity. we should create new bonds are unit d, solid data d. why is respecting and this must be on the line by respecting national identity is national aspirations, follow their own fox. they bought one single box that is applicable to all really, all religions or all nations. now i think it's not only a question for political sciences, but also for economists and perhaps have been sol, see all or just whether the west can stand on its own feed.

because as much as uh, watson, leaders like to talk about diversity and you know, like them so that are fun serving the interest of the mileage. it's pretty clear if you look at the data that the united states, the west, i sucking up the restore says from the rest of the world and not only material resources, but also human resources. i mean the custom to getting the best all and from the rest of the world to be to the point of that on educational systems. i know in many ways 5 jag by ideology is do you think the west can actually stand on its own feet of the self sufficient without putting this burden of supply for itself onto the countries in, again, under the slogans of uh, you know, humanity um the serving it won't at all is simply impossible for the rest is bent on its own feet and especially stab on the,

on the edge of the rest of humanity by trying to perpetuate it's taking money in the process. what is actually happening is that there is a progressive impoverishment of america in terms of which society you, when it's economy, economy. and there's a lot of all of this visited economy. it is popped up by the big continue old dominance of the dollar. but all these changing the world is moving towards the dollar position. a similar as you really couldn't keep pointed out. the balance on the negative balance of the united states is shrinking. let me do just one example . very recently, d s. m. c, the famous, a semi conductor manufacturer from day one was forced to establish

a chip factory in arizona in the united states. or which is 17, decided for me that you would investment and give a time like of completing that project by 2025. but now define that the one 3rd shot understanding is simply not available for the have said that you what we cannot do it in the next full yes. do i have a bunch the, the dentist's exam one example, there are so many ways in which the rest is actually declining. and the best of the, what it is the basic. but mr. go garden a i, even if i think objectively history is moving towards not only multiply richard, but also, you know, i'll send to the balance of given, take, you know, each nation taking that own fair share of our resources and you know, standards of living, the comforts of life, uh, do you think the west will actually love its monopoly?

sleep without the 5 because we, we have uh approx a warrant in your brain at least 3 and rushed to see it as a proxy war between russia and the west in ukraine. their mounting tensions. uh, a nice thing with ms surgically stoked up tensions around taiwan and china. i think there are also clear efforts by the west to recruit key regional players as a means of ensuring western control over various parts of the region. do you think, what do you think big on the west and had gemini will look like and the real the planet survive? it actually. so best would certainly not give up its dominance if to take the money without a fight. and we can see its manifestations in different ways, including the example that you gave just now that they ship the paintbrush. yeah, he's facing a proxy war. it's file war sharp conflict between josh and ukraine because

ukrainians are shut down. the people, the brothers and sisters of russian people, these are a war imposed by nature which wants to expend like 130 to assurances that name to it says a given in early 199 be that they will not expand, but you wouldn't want h. now, consistently expanding and getting close, i'm closer to my side but i need but i, she has solver, t shirts, integrity and human, but she has to show somebody was now mr. cole, corny, as much as i want to continue talking about that we have to take a very short break, but we will be back in just a few seconds. they june. the

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welcome back to arrange a parts with so keen that apple carney indian political analyst, mystical carney, i think we both agreed that de westernization and democratization are sit on and most processes, you know, allowing old dallas's old nations and the freedom to be themselves to pursue that own development afford and to the distinct national features. uh, in this uh, synergetic way, uh, in what the americans used to go when the, when uh, fashion. i'm here, it is also pretty clear that western nations have managed to essentially hijacked the democratic discourse, the using democracy, essentially as a stick against anyone who disagrees with the, with the western paradigm. how do you think this whole idea of democracy, which is actually a, you know, a very inspiring idea and it is also at the root of major philosophies uh that we

have discussed before that you know, each will nation or each individual has to leave. i'll be offensive nature that, you know, power is the b, b to interest me more into an interesting nation. how do you seeing this, the, the idea of democracy can be rustled back so that it is not here says this thing, but father, as a, as an inspiring and motivating ideal. first of all, the rest and the united states. and in particular, as it says, giving a very bad advertisement for continuing democracy in those countries look at what is happening in america. people are getting increasingly disillusioned, but of being political parties in the government function of a political leaders. i phone number, i think the society bit to know for operation and role consensus on any matter. therefore, i don't think that uh we need to do

a lot more to finish the rest of the democratic dominance because investors bring it said it is. do you think it's on the date box? what is our responsibility? responsibility of countries like india, china and russia, in africa in other countries, in asia and latin america, re establish a speedy and accept, forced upon democracy must be better living conditions will always be. but similarly, b, r, but the, the progress, they shouldn't be cultural progress up also with being sent all communities. and this has been countries like russia, china, and you know, many of the country in putting india have so much to offer for a new stage of short evolution. and i must, since, you know, i'm talking to a russian friend. i am so deeply encouraged and inspired by the great writers

and philosophers afresh. yeah, the same is true for china. i frequently visited china. i know most, in spite of the fact that the china has become free of extreme fall would be. now isn't that one? so on top of the democratic club, i was giving decent living conditions for every chinese citizen isn't back a form of democratic protection. so therefore via establish so be that accept, you have noticed that this process of the less than as ation. and by that you don't mean be and trying to remove uh, the west, not going to work with the west. because western countries also represent a very valuable heritage and the value for human experience, but simply dislodging down from their self as in positions of germany. as you know

that this process of deeper some nazena, sion is accompanied by the creation of many other organizations like brakes like many others, which are based on all centric consensus on track of magic. rather than ideological decision making on trying to truly find the areas where the country is, can find the mutual interest. do you think those principles can ever be attractive to our western neighbors? because as your former boss sad, we cannot, we cannot choose them. do you think we can sort of have them by our own example? no. the rest but expecting not while internally. i accept and best call. the new developments which point to a new word or now based on my to put athletic, the bench is one example. the strong guide cooperation organization often union similarly because well, patient council,

there are so many such regional and un might the continental transport them into my collected organizations that are coming up. so these are, you are being expanding like thanks. oh, we don't know what shape there they can future. but one thing is very, they are back to g 7 global 7. you know, with this exclusive cap off best i'm confused is losing of some brands. you cannot be convinced when it can, but they provide the conflicts and therefore it is trying to create some new thanks a somehow split the unity and a solid that'd be all other countries. and this is how i see the actual book default country alliance added by the united states breach. they see as a big step, when they shouldn't middle, don't already created outlook in europe. and they want to know explore the same. i

work inspection who the issue the must not allow name to become anywhere close to issue. now, on the, on the personal level, how do you understand the logical base uh, military expansion? because as you mentioned before, if we look at the, you know, developments within, let's say, the american society over the last 20 years, many of the benefits that they had, they lost, i mean, population wise, you know, it used to be a very inspiring country where people who have different standards of life, sometimes underwritten by the rest of the world. but there are, there was, uh, this notion of the american dream that the, you know, the next generation will be a little bit better off than the previous one. all of that is now gone. they have a wasted all the benefits they have on many of the benefits they have because of base a very i think it responsible uh,

a power uh application in the, in a war zones around the world. what do you see, how do you see the logic of these continue in military expansion when that own populations continue to decline in terms ofa, material resources available to the, to them as well as, you know, spiritual cultural resources and all the rest good opportunities. i could be lots of americans have sense of questioning why america guys boring. so many of us are associated with your paying for the war for the continuation of the war trend, then our infrastructure is declining. a very happy today, they switched over the the, the bottom hall of american societies, finding the distributive difficult to have what you say, the american dream. so the united states is something to be undergoing uh its own in internal consummation. we do not know what prompted bacon they used

to pump, but i would say that to the rise of the last decline of the best ease and it was simple phenomena about what we should do is by east or west lotto. so be less per pound. you know, blue solid data d and global cooperation of the year spelled out of the kind of the world has never seen. so east west north south. we have one family, one, build the family and i do the pointed out. this will also include people, the best i'm sense of from even the western countries have participated in a very significant fate to be the reduced social when civilizations in technology inside are what we oppose is best done domination, western hagaman 8, which is against the principles of global democracy, i think it's not only against the principles of global democracy,

it's also give the principles of fear sharing all of the benefits of humanity. i'm, what you've been talking about this idea of solar dirt. it's no longer in my view or at least an ethical principle. this is what history and the fact that they use. i mean uh, this is where development goes. uh, that if you actually leave on good mutual terms with their neighbors, you benefit from it, your population of benefit from it. and as a political party, or as a political leader, you can actually actually, you know, read the benefits rather than using politics only as a means. as i said in the beginning of self aggrandizing or using your own or nurses. now, we have only a minute left and i do want to ask you one question about india, because here you mentioned that the united states is going through its process of internal transformation. so it is india. um, recently there has been a controversy about whether india is preparing for change of name because uh the presidential palace send out an invite for a major dollar dinner stating uh,

or in the name of uh, the presence of, of products. now as far as i understand, this is an old name for easy game can be as opposed to ended being a name in english, i may have seen a number of countries tricky being. one example does have change the names to native language as to how they sound in native languages. what do you make of it? where does and just fit into that? and do you think this controversy has any sort of potential to be realized? you know, it would be totally wrong with the part of a country to rename. it says, uh by moving the word india constitution. the very 1st line of constitution says india, that is product. so the accept board page we are india being also part of that's true about several other countries of the world. for example, china has

a different name in chinese language, but it is known as china. so the rest of the work of india is as much an indian name as part. but example in english, the language in which we are speaking english today. very phone that'll be more english speaking people in india than in the united states on certainly united kingdom english language. so we don't this only dish i read on this on india. india is. 3 is a source of immense inspiration and pride for us. and so is part of any spoken people in india. one could change the name, it should be sustainable, it could be reach age. now i don't want to get into it is a political culture assuming there, but one thing i know is that part of one of the interpretations of this word is that it originates from the word high, which means life. i'm interested in

a has been a lied for the rest of your mind to not be only live but one that the brings very reach and very multi faceted raise of live in onto the rest of humanity and you being from that country i, i want to thank you for this very spirited and i think there would reach conversation, but i must say that seemed like also emanates from russia, a country that i deeply loved and advice. thank you very much and thank you to you as well. and that's the live image for each and every country and each and every person around the world. and we have to admit and respect that, but for now, thank you very much for watching and hope to see you again. and was a part of the

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