the point i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington. as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living on that. we have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is will be the, [000:00:00;00] the,

[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to was a part in his former prime minister. i told the heidi, washed by one said, that you can change your friends, but know if your neighbors, these creator would seem stuff out of them if they're born so many countries still preferring to hold onto old grievances rather than pursuing the synergies of mutual development. what will it take to change this when lives mentality and to discuss it? i'm now joined by so keen that i called carney indian political analyst and former aides to prime minister washed by mister cool, carnegie. great to see. thank you very much for your time. thank you so much. thank you so much. let me start with your early years when you were 1st infected with

politics. not as a means of self aggrandizing, but actually as a way of facilitating social development. i know that you started off as a marxist, but then got disillusioned. what do you find yourself in idea? logical terms, right now, as i was one, some boxes and i have not completely banded my microscopes. even though i got disillusioned and deviated from marxism. there was a time when i was young and as so many young people in the globe in the seventy's, in the eighty's, it was very natural to be attracted by much to them by socialism. because we all are exempt from society, 3 of exploitation and a society full of equality and equal opportunities,

but show as time went by, i saw boxes of them in action, which is very different from up to them in chevy. and we all know how word is changing the eighty's and words. now i feel that there is a need to synthesize all the human to stick and positive ideologies and ideas from around the world, including marxism and create something new, something new that can change the voice. and in this, i find that to the idea and the ideas of my program b r and can be a great god to do that. because basketball bounty are bounded ideas that the internal and universe of these drug or non violent log. it's interesting, you say that the, especially in the reference of a hotmail, does it because myself being a child of the ok. so if you, any of that and the student of political and religious ideas i, i find

a lot of overlapping between marks is common is socialist ideologies of the major religions all of the world. because they are all centered around the ideas of fair and as a wall, which here a freedom of choice with them to pursue your individual national destiny degree. to do all of a treating the other as you yourself want to be treated in a gun. these one example of actually putting those ideas into practice, you know, marrying speciality. i'm politics. do you think it's possible today? because if you look around the world, whenever people bring some sort of religious ideas into the political realm, it seems to be um, well, oh, more divergent, the diverging them unifying. you know, of whether it is possible. i would like to be answered by asking whether it is necessary and i think that the ideas and ideas of my book on the

i, the similar is also breast necessity the present and the future of one bank. first of all, gunky was a person who deeply respected every religion in the country. he rode the bus. i do all can do, but he's respect. shouldn't be for the slums, but it isn't what every other religion was equally deep. and today, you know, build a life like when people are interconnected and is related in an i'm interested in that might not, we have to know each other. you have to respect each other and we'll learn from each other and best buy. what's the deal, the what is not sold so because it's a social string because it shows extra minor the salt bridge. so reach an experience, sorry to an explanation sorted to the idea of storage and cultural backgrounds and

of course are creations. now, i want to quote you specifically because you have read them that history is dominant trends in the 21st century is toward the equitable global development assurance, global security and democratic global governments. and despite the fact that the good this illusion the with marks and isn't this actually so much different from what the chrome marx was thinking about, back in the 19th century, surely the ways of bringing that about must have changed. but isn't it pretty much the same idea of the humanity has always aspired to, you know, you're right. marks also visualize the word that is one decade united and that lives in peace for good sense. so therefore, i say that we need the basic ideas of moxie will not,

mocks has not become outdated. what i've seen is that devon also of the philosophers of the social performers and political leaders on trampled the same. for example, in india, in the india street, a woman against british colonialism was a source of the men since the nation, mostly for the people of india. but for people all over the white guntee toward la nettle grabbing the, gotten all of them. but you know, new bustle, people, they fought for india as independence, but they also inspired people around the world. absolutely. by the way, let me, let me just tell you, because i live here on the, in the northern part of the most on the right in my neighborhood park. there is the monument to order to not to go. so, you know, like you are showing saying that there were people thinking on the global scale. now you mentioned the with unity and i think this is a very interesting and also very dangerous concept because the united states and

the west. collectively i using the unit to you as a sort of political tactic off the machine. everybody under the same opinion under the same. 7 dime, you know, essentially what i think they're doing is under the slogan, a few unity they're enforcing their own views and doing that quite a while. the author, terry, in ways how do you distinguish between of that would take unity. um lets say joe political unity that is used as a, as a tactic of enforcing the privilege position. the to a pending meaning of unity means that deep suspects. diversity, georgia, they cannot be creative is uniform. but the, what the united states is boeing is imposing its on heglum any or continuing to struggle money in the name of the,

of all of idea of unity which is as but its own hang on monday of that must be rejected. and that is indeed being rejected. the true unity of mankind means that you must accept and respect and celebrate you men's diverse with your schuman civilizations. in terms of odd sky cha, spitting for traditions, philosophies, intellectual, scientific, and logical pursuits. all this is a common headed visual commodity, and back is out of this diversity visual grid, your bones of unit, the solid data, d. why is respecting? and this must be on the line by respecting national identities, national aspirations, follow their own fox. they lost one single box that is applicable to all really small regions on all nations. now uh, i think it's not only a question for political sciences,

but also for economists and perhaps have been sol, see all or just whether the west can stand on its own feed. because as much as uh, watson, leaders live to talk about diversity. um, you know, like them so that are fun serving the interest of the mileage. it's pretty clear if you look at the data, the, the united states, the west, i sucking up the resources from the rest of the world and not only material resources, but also human resources. i mean the custom to getting the best all and from the rest of the world to be to the point of that on educational systems. i know in many ways 5, jag by ideology is do you think the west can actually stand on its own feet? a be self sufficient without putting this burden of supply for itself onto the countries in again, under the slogans of uh, you know,

humanity um the serving it won't at all is simply impossible for the rest is bent on its own feet and especially stab on the on the edge of the rest of humanity by trying to perpetuate it's again, money in the process. what is actually happening is that there is a progressive impoverishment of america in terms of which society you, when it's economy, economy. and there's a lot of all of this business economy, it is popped up by the, the continual dominance of the dollar. but all these changes the world is moving towards d. dollarization a similar b as american into pointed out, the balance on the negative balance of the united states is shrinking. let me do just one example. very recently, d s. m. c, the famous,

a semi conductor manufacturer from day one was forced to establish a chip factory in arizona in the united states. or which d s m c decided for me that you would invest back and give a family of completing that project. but when you do any bite, but now define that the, what the job understanding is simply not available. so they have said that we cannot do it in the next full yes. have a bunch they the within self exam. one example. there are so many ways in which the rest is actually declining. and the best of the word is the basic. but mystical garden, a i, even if i think objectively history is moving towards not only multiply richard, but also, you know, i'll send to the balance of given, take, you know, each nation taking that own fair share of our resources and you know, standards of living, the comforts of life. uh,

do you think the west will actually love its monopoly? sleep without the 5? because we, we have a approx, a warrant in your brain, at least 3 in russia. see it as a proxy war between russia and the west in ukraine. there, mounting tensions, a nice thing, miss surgically stoked up tensions around taiwan and china. i think there are also clear efforts by the west to recruit key regional players as a means of ensuring western control over various parts of the region. do you think? what do you think big on the west and had gemini, will look like and the real the planets survive? it actually. so best would certainly not give up its dominance if to take the money without a fight. and we can see its manifestations in different ways, including the example that you gave just now that they ship the green pressure is freezing. a proxy war is file war,

shut up conflict between josh and ukraine because ukrainians are shut down. the people, the brothers and sisters of crushing people these are a war imposed by natal. she wants to expand like 130 to the assurances that named lloyd says a given in early 1990. that they will not expand by you will one age that consistently expanding and getting close, then close at the restaurant. but i think that's just solving t shirts with integrity and you will die. she has to just stop by was now mr. co gardening, as much as i want to continue talking about that we have to take

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the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to arrange the parts with so keen that i feel carnie indian political analyst, mystical carney. i think we both agreed that de westernization, democratization, us anonymous processes, you know, allowing old dallas's old nations and the freedom to be themselves to pursue their own development according to their distinct national features. uh, in this uh, synergetic way, uh, in what the americans used to go when, when a fashion i'm here, it is also pretty clear that western nations have managed to essentially hijacked the democratic discourse. they're using democracy, essentially as a stick against anyone who disagrees with the,

with the western paradigm. how do you think this whole idea of democracy, which is actually a, you know, a very inspiring idea and it is also at the root of major philosophies that we have discussed before that, you know, each nation or each individual has to leave. i'll be, i'll spend, think nature that, you know, power is the, the, the, the interest you more into an interesting nation. how do you seeing base the, the idea of democracy can be rustled back so that it is not here says this thing, but father, as a, as an inspiring and motivating ideal. first of all, the rest and the united states. and in particular, is it says giving a very bad advertisement for continued democracy in those countries. look at what is happening within america. the people are getting increasingly disillusioned, but the political parties and the government function,

the political leaders, are fully rising the society bit. so no for operation and role consensus of any better. therefore, i don't think that uh we need to do a lot more to finish the rest of the democratic dominance because investors bring it said it is. do you think it's on great? like, what is our responsibility? responsibility of countries like india, china and russia, in africa, in other countries, in asia and latin america, re establish us, be that accept, forced upon democracy must be better living conditions will all be. but similarly, be on. but the, the progress they should be controlled progress also with being sent all communities. this has been countries like russia, china and, you know,

many of the country in putting india have so much to offer for a new stage of short and pollution. and i must, since, you know, i'm talking to a russian friend, i'm so deeply encouraged and inspired by the great right. doesn't philosophers a fresh? yeah. the same is true for china. i frequently visited china. i know most inspired with the fact that the china has become free of extreme, but would be about using that one. so of almost democratic have i was giving decent living conditions for every chinese citizen isn't back on the democratic protection. so therefore via establish. so be that itself, you have noticed that this process of the western as ation and by that you don't mean the and trying to remove uh, the west,

not going to work with the west. because western countries also represent a very valuable heritage and the value for human experience, but simply dislodging down from their self as in positions of gemini as you know that this process of diverse them as they sion is accompanied by the creation of many other organizations. like brakes, like many others, which are based on all centric consensus on track of magic rather than ideological decision making on trying to truly find the areas where the countries can find the mutual interest. do you think those principles can ever be attractive to our western neighbors? because as your former boss sad, we cannot, we cannot choose them. do you think we can sort of have them by our own example? know the rest been searching,

not while internally. i accept and best call the new developments which point to a new word or not based on my input, athletic pinch is one example the strong guide cooperation organization often union similarly, because well, patient council, there are so many such regional and un might the continental transport committee might collect organizations that are coming up. so these are logging expanding like thinks we don't know what shape they can future. but once he's very clear that the g 7, a global 7, you know, with this exclusive drop off best, i'm confused. ease of losing it, some brands diekama can brands on it, but they provide to concerns. and therefore, because trying to create some new tricks. so how split the unity and

a solid that'd be all other countries. and this is how i see for the actual book default country alliance. and then by the united states breach, they see as a big gods to when they shouldn't middle, don't already created alex in europe. and don't want to know explore the same public inspection who the issue, the must not allow name to become anywhere close to asia. now, on the, on the personal level, how do you understand the logic of this uh, military expansion? because as you mentioned before, if we look at the, you know, developments within, let's say, the american society over the last 20 years, many of the benefits that they had, they lost, i mean, population wise, you know, it used to be a very inspiring country where people who have different standards of life, sometimes underwritten by the rest of the world. but there are, there was, uh, this notion of the american dream that the, you know, the next generation will be

a little bit better off than the previous one. all of that is now gone, they have wasted all the benefits they had on many of the benefits they had because of base a very i think it was sponsible. uh, a power uh application in uh, in a war zones around it was. what do you see, how do you see the logic of this continue in military expansion when that own populations continue to decline in terms ofa, material resources available to the, to them, as well as to, you know, spiritual cultural resources and all the rest. good opportunities. i could be lots of americans, i'm sense of questioning why america guys boring. so many of the saucers in video paying for the war for the continuation of the war. trent, then our infrastructure is declining. a very happy today, they switched over the then the bottom hall of american societies finding it

extremely difficult to have what you said, the american dream. so the united states is something to be undergoing uh its own in internal consummation. we do not know what prompted bacon they used to pump, but i would say that to the rise of the last decline of the best ease and it was simple phenomena about what we should do is by east or west northville south be less per pound, a global solar data d and global cooperation of the year started out of the kind of the world has never seen. so east west, north south, we have on family one, globally, family and agile audio pointed out. this will also include people of the best i'm sense of from even the western countries have contributed in a very significant fee to be the everything social when civilizations in technology

inside are to what we oppose is best done domination, best done hagaman e, which is against the principles of building democracy. i think it's not only against the principles of global democracy, it's also given the principles of fear, sharing off all of the benefits of commodity. what you've been talking about, this idea of solidarity, it's no longer in my view, at least an ethical principle. this is what history and the fact that they use. i mean uh, this is weird development. uh, goes uh that if you actually leave on good mutual terms with their neighbors, you benefits from your population of benefit from it. and as a political party, or as a political leader, you can actually actually, you know, read the benefits rather than using politics only as a means. as i said in the beginning of self aggrandizing or using your own or nasa says, now we have only a minute left. and i do want to ask you one question about india, because here you mentioned that the united states is going through its process of

internal transformation. so it is india. and recently there has been a controversy about whether india is preparing for change of name, because uh the presidential palace send out an invoice for a major dollar dinner stating uh, or in the name of uh, the presence of, of product. now as far as i understand, this is an old name for easy game can be as opposed to india being a name in english, i may have seen a number of countries tricky being. one example does have change the names to native language as to how they sound and native languages. what do you make of it? where does interested into that? and do you think this controversy has any sort of potential to be realized? you know, it would be totally wrong with the bottle of entry to rename. it says,

uh by moving the word india constitution. the very 1st line of constitution says india, that is a product. so the accept walk babes. we are india being also a part, and that's true. a lot of countries in the world. for example, china has a different name in chinese language, but it is known as china for the rest of the work. oh, india is as much an indian name as part for example, in english, the language in which we are speaking english today. very phone that'll be more english speaking people in india band in the united states on certainly united kingdom english language. so we don't this only dish and we don't is on india. india is a, is a source of immense inspiration and pride for us. and so is part of any spoke with people it in. yeah, one could change the name,

it should be on sustainable. it could be reach age. now i don't want to get into it is a political control assuming there, but one thing i know is that cut off one of the interpretations of this word is that it originates from the word high, which means life and interested in the has been allied for the rest of your mind to not be only live, but the one that the brings very reach and very multi faceted raise of live in onto the rest of humanity and you being from that country i, i want to thank you for this very spirited and i think there would reach conversation, but i must say that seemed like also emanates from prussia, a country that i deeply loved and admired. thank you very much. thank you to you as well, and that's the live image for each and every country and each and every person around the world. and we have to admit and respect that, but for now,

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