tv Cross Talk RT September 11, 2023 2:30pm-3:01pm EDT
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he projected a very different message. what, what was, what was the point of um, of uh, do you think the difference there between the 2 messages? well, stilton bug is the front man for nato. uh, so he comes out every few days, weeks or whatever. and the class that was made, so is the way forward for all countries and nato membership where ukraine is almost a done deal is just uh, we just gotta do the finish the paperwork. uh now um, blinking then goes to uh to and he makes no mention on later, but i told them i told them that to organize uh no mention of need. so there's a great deal about america's commitment to ukraine. but he doesn't say anything of, of nature. now, why is this? well, the, by the ministration knows that, um, if you crane is in nate's so then the united states is on the hook of it is basic
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united states is at war with russia. so that's already what the united states once the and i say does want to keep this war going best doesn't get it by the loss of lives. doesn't care about the the, the, the ways the results of america has plenty of resources to ways. um, but it doesn't want to get it. so in the direct war with russia, national debate really doesn't care about the show to look just as well. that's great. you know, we've got this wonderful club. we now have, we're going to have 32 members in the unit in the next few weeks of study in the once ukraine in and that'll be his grades try um, but the american saying, well, not so fast. you know, they, they just basically a collection of dead beads and militarily inconsequential powers, the only power the masses is the united states and the ice a doesn't want to get himself into a wall. so that's why, you know,
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sold to book and go on saying what he wants to say here. you know, he's the chairman of this, the board of this class of the united states. it wants to say out of a very dangerous, so well for it. so what's the martin, what's interesting to with, with uh, lincoln's visit be so i thought it was a little very fringe. i'm having a photo off at a cemetery, and that's lincoln's dirty work best as his paper. okay. i, i don't know who is doing the optics, but it was printing and where are the here but it's, it's, it's interesting that during blankets, visit the co to get more money of course. but i don't know. i was rather taken aback, but he was talk so much about post war ukraine. i mean, what, where is this coming from? i think what? no one, none of us we don't know. i don't know if anybody really knows how this is going to be resolved, but he wants to talk about what your queen is going to be like afterwards when we
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don't even know what you claim. well, we won't even know what it's geographical. borders will be barton or anyone faintly objective about that you claim or read it, regardless of whether you take sides or not. i mean anybody who is able to get some distance and look up the, the grand will sign. spring comes narrative, really, but now i mean it really is just so weird how somebody can be. so spectacularly misinformed isn't misinformed or is this delusion the leave has been detach the very much detached from the spanish. so if you, if you think that you're, you're watching um a, so made a training session. well, you know that with the train is to come up with this, some technicians country on this fictitious rule. and we can just talk about the talking points. i'm working on r t messaging, but this isn't isn't really not in the real well, you know, i'm not some of those features in the bus and i just wonder, is this the result?
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is this the combination of years and years and years of wisdom? this information said from intelligence agencies to, to solve a media. going to such an extreme, you know, when media now is just believing it is a narrative where you have the politicize ation of intelligence. and when you have a blessed list of intentions, unfortunately, the impact on media is a 100 times less, you know, and you have general to see what just writing fiction basically is it, this is, this is bring to the cut off this on vacation of all of that i'm wondering whether it is, i mean, we talked about nature and stopped him, but now it has since been with us was given a one year extension by, by them. um, you know, the corruption is just incredible. i mean, just stinks entitled and invitation for me, just stinks the decision to extend his term for one year. come to me and i've written about this. i'm absolutely confident p once those little delayed european commission, president speed to take care of it next year. next, next summer,
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exactly when the term is available when the post is up, when installed and bug this out is exactly the same months when she ends up time here been commission. another double want me that why does she need this job? because i'm not just with the leads in my there's a to the product, protect one another and s the dentist needs protective. she is up to a neck in corruption obligations because there's massive fines that deal with she's signed off on the she was part of and guess what, a surprise, surprise, the husband just so happens to own a company owned by size. uh kelcy please. you know, and we'll kill us a previous to come with uh is that when various investigations m e p level and you have been pharma. you have been on but some even a use an answer referral. deposit themselves when the old oscar didn't much i'm president, can we just have your telephone to look at the text messages that you sent to pfizer buses? she says, oh well, you know, all these things are so ephemeral and i think of just deleted them all good. maybe
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you can sort of that b s. it has a big major. the investor is invest to like new york times german media as well. the suing you know, the ceiling because it, because they believe in old fashioned values, which i used to believe in studies ago. you know, the power of the preston pool is a free speech. you know, use those techs on not your property. so, you know, and we need to see the, i think the, oh, it just shows georgia, this is just a racket. okay. and that's what it is really, it's really interesting. and again, going back to, you know, i'm just opposing stilton version blinking rubber software. who's talking in front of a body, but no one in tennessee probably heard over even care of his buddies. these are being bar limit, which, which one, which i give kudos the is visual george, you know the name that iris m pc actually pushed back, but we never heard the response from us from stilton. but,
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but it's interesting is that us policy is shafting not only ukraine, but also the european union. okay. because it's really and dealing with it blinking and so obsessed with post war. i mean, i guess he's, you know, he's got a football player, pennsville foot, the bill or something like that in because of course, you know, both your capitalism. but it's the same is that it's, it's a seamless program for blinking. and it's basically about arm is gonna arms be care man. so you know, we have this just a money laundering operation. you know, where you send money, but oh, it does get suddenly comes back. it was something verbs of virginia. it's a racket. yes it is. there, i guess, as you said, the model that they've um, landed on is this uh, model of israel the somehow, well, we will actually have a formal literature line. so that when, when i should be on the hook to go to war and you know they have um,
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but we will be sending you an awful lot of, uh, military equipment. uh, a courtesy of uh, america tax. but it is going to just be sending you a so everything that you want, which is still going to have to do the uh, the fights in your so not show them. but however, as they always would be the one for all of the old one. you know, he will, he has a very different model in mind that, you know, once your brain is in then bone we're, we're all good to go and fight the new brains being hot and the americans are basically say, no, i mean, they said that before bill is and with blinking, i mean he's not even making any promises that it will be a native membership for you at any time. i mean, she showed them bucks that yes, well we skipped the, the membership action plan phase. but that's just because we're really, really moving foster was late to membership. well,
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the americans doesn't get we skipped the membership action plan because of the to be a membership. so there's no point in the feedback. sure. but i think it is going to be, uh, you know, send the sending, you know, everything. so now already they say, or we're going to send this a, d a c m s, um ms. uh, so just gonna keep doing it. but ultimately, i mean, we're just going to, you're going to be, do think, doing the dying and again, the ukrainians, the ones who made this idiotic bargain. i mean, the history of it because they're, you know, they go to the military and the state is harming americans that are getting killed as well as all of these might symbolic dishes, like made rom than others like white, gleeful about it. hey, wasn't here. this is a good bargain. you know, our industries are making money. we're not getting killed. i mean, if this stupid enough to, once it gets sharp up on the front lines, that's the look out. so if it's a very cynical operation, um, but the,
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there's been no push back from the europeans one. well, they also do the martin again going back to blinking strip. you know, of, obviously i didn't see everything you had to say, but i saw a large chunks of it. there's nothing about the, the counter offensive. what a plan b, it's a whole about and george's, right, not about nato. it to say how we're going to move forward after the conflict. and the problem with that kind of magical thinking is that you're not taking the russian side into account. i mean, they're going to, when did they decide to stop? stop lighting? when did they decide when they believe that they secured their goals, and one of them is not made the nato membership for you? great. so again, blinking is completely disconnected from reality mark disconnected, but i do like your friends, lincoln's trip. what do you actually suggest to use this thing is of doing hotline, but i'm not call tech, so i'm for to minutes? probably before he makes the i i've heard that such things happen in care, but we'll leave it at that. okay, cool. oh yeah, but you know,
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where is all this heavy i think i think what we're experiencing now is this a big issue? and i think the good thing is because we're running up to dr. barton and suppose the re election stuff. and um, so we don't really know where we are. there's also the fact that there is a huge gap now in, in a minute, from military submitting to minutes just perspective um, lots of talk of um f sixteens. i was quite shocked to see the headlines a few weeks ago or from the ministration approves european f. 16 and you know, it's like a good idea of oh, hold that thought i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine, stay with r t a the the who, what else seemed wrong? just the safe house to come to the after care
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and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground. the, the total is the aggressor today i'm authorized with additional strong sites. today, russia is the country with the most thing shows imposed against it. a number that is constantly growing. but i think you chose the close thing is just click on the leasing and we'll see more in the we'll shift for banning all important show russian oil and gas news is suffering the price for another country. hope all's well. we're going to be strictly fed service involved. the little joe biden in imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the
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a welcome at the cross stuff where all things are considered either low. this is a home addition to remind you were discussing new great the okay is go back to barely. right. the way when i went to the break, you were talking about europe and headlines continue. my friend. yeah. so we just, um, the latest headlines are, is that something like 60 f sixteens dating back to the 1970s will be procured from a number of european countries. um, but how this is going to happen and wyatt america isn't contributing any themselves, is rather old. i saw it, and i'm and so does it got this? hello, and how do we fill that gap? you know, what are they earliest opportunity? what was the f sixteens in ukraine? i think. well realistically, be next summer. some people saying may be spring,
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but i've just read today that the pilots, the training pilot, so needs to be sent city to u. k. for training before they stop the actual f. 16 training. so what is the training in the u. k? is it language lessons? i'm wondering if the role of my country honestly in the training will interest in martin. also let me, bea, bea, are you the infrastructure that is needed to maintain these play? okay, they're all, but they're still sophisticated, relatively for other air forces in the world. what about these air strips? i mean, do they exist in charge on the ship it to you so well, the f, 16 air scripts to be somehow magically immune from being attacked. i mean, and then you know, all of the spare parts of the fuel and all that. i mean, this is a major, major undertake. i don't believe it's going to ever happen. i think it's, i think it's just, they're talking out of their sleep, george. right. they just the ascending more and more stuff and it goes in the for
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your grade is going to be what's the next thing that they go to and aid? i mean, we, you know, we, we had the drum b though, we need the, the, the, the tags and the, the drum and tank. so the name of the gentleman dies that way. we need the american tanks. i go, you go to the, the m one. abrams thanks. i don't know what i would need the f sixteens. okay. go the 60 ins. oh, now we need this a d a. m s ms. uh, look at what you've got. let's say go, we've got the next thing that's going to turn the tide because it hasn't done so. i mean it. and what was interesting is, um, let me go back to the point about blinking, delusional talk is that a blinking breast has said that you probably, well, this comprehensive, very, very successful, basically 50 percent of what the charge of russia gain since it started it's operation. 50 percent has been one by, by ukraine. and then you look at the washington po, as you know, they actually get
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a show show the math. there's nothing like 50 percent. i mean, they're just so you know, they just, they're just making this up and up to the 50 percent of the territory. there was nothing like it. i mean is, is, you know, the green is a one very small amount of territory back, but it's not nothing like 50 percent. that means it's still an enormous level. it's are true that russia has game, but yeah, they just keep fueling this uh, this delusion. and then the question is, what, what's the end game here? another nama, and here they are, the do have something and come up with the show them, but blinking sullivan, they're not able to spell out well what, what's your, what's your in game here? it is. i was, oh yeah, well, you know, we, we got to show a democracy is, prevails over a autocracies colton. you know, most must be stopped or, you know, you know, you, you, you are a most be saved from the boot. and so they gave him the, you know, they're not able to spell out even what they're trying to do, all of them. well, let's just keep this going. and the tell everyone what
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a fantastic successive has been, which it has. well, is this a continue with that martin? it's, it's very interesting. you have these pundents as a rush has already been defeated or it's, it's losing. okay. it's like what, what was it, george? i think you're the one that does um, pointed it out to me, right. rush is a diminished power of power that is being diminished and then well, that just brings up the question. if it brush it is, be, is a diminishing, it's out of diminishing trajectory those. those are the words been, why shouldn't ukraine be and nato, they don't need nato if they're diminishing rushes military power. the 2nd issue here is obsession with square meters. i find that a nonsensical if you go back again, if you just listen to what people say was stephen cohen would save, you put yourself in the other guy shoes. you know, the russian objective is be nice vacation in demilitarization. it's demilitarized thing. you great,
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it's not seeking territory per se. now that may change in the future when russia has its own offensive. my point in bringing up those 2 points is that the, the, the, the narratives are so skewed. i mean, there's nothing each other. and i think that's an intentional again, but on the, on the part of the blankets and all the rest of them, the not just skewed i guess. i think the point made by a little bit and the answer you did with the tough guy was burning and he said, look, the west just doesn't understand the russian. this is the problem. you know, you have this different ideas, different perspectives on democracy. the state building and the future of, of how people consider around the countries russians place. huge emphasis on the size and unity of the country. first and foremost before so called western ideas of democracy and unfree gentleman accountability to elected officials. and we don't get that. we don't understand that, but russia,
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russia will never give in with the see, bring into it, no matter what the case is. i mean made the 2nd point visit was that ukraine would never, ever have the numbers for me to look about. so there's someone talking about the, some of them they will never be able to match what russia is producing. and so, you know, the new idea as well. okay. maybe maybe the more should be moved. it should be transferred to the sky. can we, you know, have a lot of f sixteens, a mix, and that would be an amazing media destruction for at least 6 months or a year just so we can get to 2024. before i would put money on trump coming back in, i mean i would put literally put my grandmother savings on it. i really do think it's an issue. negligible from utah and the screws. the motion, you put the guy in jail. i'm always just guaranteed to, to run as president, but there is this delusion there is this a folk over these, these, this frontier and the general list of just playing along with this and producing more fake news. i mean,
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it's not being picked up. it is interesting how will should generate, recently talked about the ukraine on me, making some sort of achievement along that front line, the russian, the russian defense line 3 lines. in fact, of these concrete set of dragon's cheats. but still true, they didn't make you. i mean, if you going in forces breakthrough with those 3 lines of dragons teeth, you don't thing that's going to be on the front page, the guardian forces, and you can study, you know, where's the so let's keys, $1000000000.00. it didn't happen. it won't happen. well, you'll have and what you'll find to get some of the villages on the other side, some of the villages that rush that it was holding onto on the other side, in the ukraine side. and sometimes they give them up. they get bored with them, they get rest of them. you know, you kindful, take the village and somebody. everybody pulls out a sofa, a start day of the self is you know, the big one village in population of state. we do a one time was 43 people. so i mean we're talking about village, we're about to handle this a score scott resort value have on the show officer said recently that there were
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a number of cases that he supported of the training. so his offices going, walking on foot and going through these dragon's teeth, taking sofas themselves, personal social media, and then scuffling back so that that's how pathetic it is. you know, that's really where we are with the credit or what the charge also in the mix here was the rest of the you go to color moist ski will believe to be one of the sponsors about of bob zelinski when he was running for president, arrested on fraud, which none of us, so personalized by. yeah. um this whole push to this anti corruption. so it was like 15 minutes ago, you couldn't talk about corruption and ukraine. now. it's like the design stays cleaning it all up. okay. though there still will be an audit here. what do you read into that? what weight is it a consolidation?
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because it seems to me that it's on skis, even more isolated and making them even more dependent on, on washington. he doesn't have to listen. anybody in the european union, he doesn't care because the americans don't care what's going on there. and this cannot be coincidental. well, i think it's, uh, it is consolidation. it's a matter of ensuring the p, if is completely subordinate to america's requirements. and i called them royce, gave someone that they might because i've never been very happy about. uh, they think he's very untrustworthy. i mean, not just the corruption, they don't go so much that you know, he likes money. i mean, you know, who does a, it was it small that they think that he might just see if he can work out some kind of a deal with the russians. he said things in the past. um, you know, some years ago in which he pretty much is the said, what is all the as a but there's only a visit to him. i think it was 2017 that the americans are ready to fight to the
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last few crazy. and they don't really care about all well, that they're just using us as a battering ram against russia. i mean, this is already all this, but it was all this to go to my skin 10 years ago when, when you blood things like that about it. in interviews with the new york times, the americans really don't appreciate it very much and they put cold on my skin, all the sanctions list already some time ago. and the now they have, you know, but the settings of ends get well enough already. you know, you've got to get him out, you go to get a hold of the people around you who may think this is not, we need to work something out. now where, you know, we're just, we're just being led to the store to buy the united states. they don't care about us, you know, where, where, where just a, uh, a nice simple uh tool and, and i think they will, they will, they want to everyone like that are still, which is another one. i think they want the demo as well. but anyway, anyway, richard talk some sense has got to be moved out of the way. not really, and those that remain the same. it's still can participate and benefit from the
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graphs because every time you know they're going to visual sets up by way above another 1000000000 for you. if you don't really buy the linux, the cushions on the couch, we were really good for you are. yeah, i'm as an extraordinary, isn't it, isn't it so? so funny, but don't let me look an american and british press coverage of the claim will one thing we don't see. one thing that we should see, but we've done se, is we'd never see profile pictures. but profile pieces of equipment officials, you know, now we do protocol pictures, big pieces of our own officials around ministers. you know, there's a big joke going around with them. now the moment about this new defense minister, we just, um, it's a prime minister. this just installed, it has no experience. it's over in the ministry. doesn't even know when fargo. yeah . but in new crane, we don't see these profiles on these top people because that would be really difficult when that they'll be ready or quit. how do you do profiles on people who
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are living in multi $1000000.00 villas, you know, have a complete entourage, buddy gods, and headed up to those and own real estate in, in, in the bahamas and etc, etc, etc. the funny picture. so placing on the section made it might be faked, it might be photoshop, but it's very funny. it's a picture of the ukranian late to an m p. 's by and media assembly. i wasn't name up until the picture is a 2 picture double shots. one is the beginning of the penguin, where she's extremely skinny, holding a i k 47, smiling towards the camera, and more recent photograph of, uh, how should i say being rather large and out. and 11 to this. you know, um, what do jacks to do when they suddenly get lots of money to do a little more so it can be a great diet for some and certainly res robin. and unfortunately, gentlemen, we've run out of time on a think, my guess in budapest and remember to catch them. i think our viewers were watching us here at our teach the next time. remember across offerings the,
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