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hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm getting a little stilton bird versus blinking watching. and once we keep the conflict in your brain going, but doesn't want to be on the hook, we're going in and fighting on ukraine's behalf. this of course is with nature membership with me the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j emeritus. she is an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george samuel. he's a pod cast, right? the god. what would you be found on youtube and locals, or gentleman cross type rules that affect, that means you can jump any time you want that. i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out in budapest, george. you and i discuss our gamble on cast, the, but different messaging we heard last week, coming from the same stories. they blanket and nato head stolt, and bird. they couldn't be more different, but we've been told all we have is western unity in the last step. but when

blinking was it in cube work for the photo op of eating mcdonald's? he projected a very different message. what, what was, what was the point of, of, um, of uh, do you think the difference there between the 2 messages? well stilton bug is the front man, so need. so uh, so he comes out uh every few days, weeks or whatever. and the class that was made. so is the way forward for all countries and nato membership where ukraine is almost a done deal is just uh, we just gotta do the finish the paperwork. uh, now um, blinking then goes to uh tier and he makes no mention on later. but i told them i told them to talk on those uh no mention of need. so there's a great deal about america's commitment to ukraine. but he doesn't say anything

about nature. now, why is this? well, the, by the ministration knows that, um, if you crane is in nate's so then the united states is on the hook. i mean, these basic united states is at war with russia. so that's already what the united states wants. uh the, and i say does want to keep this war going. um, best doesn't care about the loss of lives. doesn't care about the, the, the, the ways the results doesn't make us plenty of resources to weighs. um, but it doesn't want to get it. so in the direct war with ross struck my shoulder, but really doesn't care about the show to me or just as well. that's great. you know, we've got this wonderful club. we now have, we're going to have 32 members in the unit in the next few weeks and study in the once ukraine in and that will be his grades try um, but the americans are saying, well, not so fast. you know, they, they just basically

a collection of dead beads and militarily inconsequential powers. the only power of the masses is the united states and the ice. they doesn't want to get himself into a row up. so that's why, you know, sold to buck and go on saying what he wants to say here. you know, he's the chairman of this, the board of this class of the united states. the once the say out of a very dangerous the will for it. so what's the mark, what's interesting to with, with lincoln's visit be. so i thought it was a very um range um having a photo uh at a cemetery and thats lincoln's dirty work as best as his paper. okay. i, i don't know who is doing the optics, but it was a cringe worthy here. but it's, it's, it's interesting that during blankets, visit the co to get more money of course. but i don't know. i was rather taken aback, but he was talk so much about post war ukraine. i mean what,

where is this coming from? i think what? no one, none of us. we don't know. i don't know if anybody really knows how this is going to be resolved. but he wants to talk about what you queen is going to be like afterwards when we don't even know what you claim. well, we won't even know what it's geographical. borders will be, pardon? or anyone? faintly, objective about the claim or risk regardless of whether you take sides or not, i mean anybody who, who is able to get some distance and look at the the plan will sign spring comes narrative really but not, i mean it really is just so weird how somebody can be so spectacularly. misinformed isn't misinformed or is this delusion the leave has been detached, the very much detached from the spanish. what do you think that you're, you're watching um, so made a training session where, you know, they, they, with the train is to come up with this some additions country on district as well.

we can just talk about, i'm talking points. i'm working on archie messaging. but this isn't really not in the real well, you know, i'm, i'm not so some of those features in the bus. and i just wonder, is this the result? is this the combination of years and years and years of wisdom, dis, information fed from intelligence agencies to, to solve a media. going to such an extreme, you know, when media now is just believing it is a narrative where you have the politicization of intelligence and when you have a blissful edition of intelligence, unfortunately, the impacts on media is a 100 times less, you know, and you have general to see what just writing fiction basically, is it, this is, this is bring to them to kind of push on vacation of all of that. i'm wondering whether it is, i mean, we talk about nature and stopped him. but now who's since been with us was given a one year extension by, by the um, you know, the corruption is just incredible. i mean, just stinks entitled the invitation for me just thinks the decision to extend his

term for one year come to me on a rid about this. i'm absolutely confident he wants those little delay during commission president speed to take care of it next year. next. next summer, exactly when the time is available, when the post is up when installed and that is out is exactly the same most when she ends of time here been commission. another double want me that why does she need this job? because of notice where the leads, you might go to the product, protect one another, and s the dentist needs protective. she is up to a neck in corruption obligations because there's massive science that deal with she signed off and she was part of and guess what? i was surprised, surprised. the husband just so happens to own a company owned by size. uh kelcy please. you know, a little closer previous to come with uh is that when the various investigations m . e p level and you have been pharma, your been ombudsman, and even the e,

as in nancy, full deposit themselves when the old oscar didn't match. i'm president. can we just have your telephone to look at the text messages that you sent to find the bosses? she says, oh well, you know, all these things are sort of federal and i think of just deleted them. oh yeah. maybe you can sort of up. yes. but then it has a big major of the investors as invest to like new york times german media as well . assuming you know this soon because it, because they believe in old fashioned values, which i used to believe in study years ago. you know, the power of the breast importance, a phrase page, you know, use those texts on your property. so, you know, and we need to see the, i think the, it just shows judge it, this is just a racket. ok, and that's what it is because it's really interesting. again, going back to, you know, just the opposing stilton version blinking rubber software of his talking in front of, of a body. but knowing in tennis probably heard over even care of his buddies. these are being bar limit, which, which one, which i give kudos the visual george,

you know the name that iris m pc actually pushed back, but we never heard the response from from stilton. but, but it's interesting is that us policy is shafting not only ukraine, but also the european union. okay. because it's really and dealing with it blinking of so obsessed with post war. i mean, i guess if you know, is going to for the europeans, will flip the bill or something like that. and because of course, you know, both your capitalism. but it's, it seems that it's, it's a seamless program for blinking. and it's basically about arms of arms be care, man to, you know, we have this g, a money laundering operation. you know where you send money, but oh, it does get suddenly comes back. it was something verbs of virginia. it's a racket. yes it is there. i guess, as you said, the model that they've um landed on is this uh,

model of israel somehow. well, we will actually have a formal literature line, so that will know what and i should be on the hook to go to war and you know they have um, but we will be sending you an awful lot of uh, military equipment. uh, a courtesy of uh, america tax, but it is going to just be sending you a so everything that you want which is still good to have to do the, uh, the fighting yourself now sold them. but however, as they always would be the one for all of the old one, you know, he will, he has a very different model in mind. they get one, once you brain is in the bottom where we're all good to go and fight the new brains being hot and the americans are basically say, no, i mean they said that before billy is and with blinking and i mean, he's not even making any promises that it will be a native membership for you at any time. i mean, she showed them bucks that yes,

well we skip the, the membership action plan phase, but that's just because we're really, really moving. foster was late to membership. well, the americans, the thing that we skipped the membership action plan because those oh, there to be a membership. so there's no point in the industry of action. perhaps it is going to be uh, you know, send the sending, you know, everything. so now already they say, or we're going to send this a to a c m s. um ms. uh, so just gonna keep doing it. but ultimately, i mean, we're just gonna, you know, you're going to be do think, doing the dying and again, the ukrainians, the ones who made this in the all take ball again. i mean, the history of the, the, the right, because they're, you know, they go to the military and the state is harming americans that are getting killed as well as all these might symbolic dishes, like mid wrong than others. like why, gleeful about it. hey, wasn't here, this is a good bargain. you know, our industries are making money. we're not getting killed. i mean, it is

a stupid enough to once it gets sharp up on the front blinds. that's the look out. so it's a very cynical operation. but the, there's been no pushback from the europeans one. well, it also martin again going back to blinking strip. you know, of, obviously i didn't see everything you had to say, but i saw a large chunks of it. there's nothing about the, the counter offensive. what a plan b, it's a whole about and george's, right, not about nato. it just said, how are we going to move forward after the conflict? and the problem with that kind of magical thinking is that you're not taking the russian side into account. i mean, they're going to, when did they decide to stop, stop lighting when did they decide when they believe that they secured their goals? and one of them is not made the nato membership for you. great. so again, blinking is completely disconnected from reality. mark disconnected about do like your friends lincoln's trip. what do you actually suggest to use listening is of

doing hotline, but i'm not call tech, so i'm effect them. is probably that before he makes the i've heard been such things happen in care, but we'll leave it at that. okay. oh yeah. but you know, where is the lose head? you know, i think, i think what we're experiencing now is this a big issue? and i think the good thing is because we're running up to dr. barton and suppose the re election and stuff. and um, so we don't really know where we are. there's also the fact that there is a huge gap now in, in the middle, from military submitting to minutes just perspective. um, lots of talk of um f sixteens. i was quite shocked to see the headlines a few weeks ago or from the ministration approved european f. 16 and you know, it's like a good idea of oh, hold that thought i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with r t the

the inversion lucas africa. it's really about the broadly more person, but i also see that the look of these other ones are database. look at

the system of both issues. mixture all comes with your instructor either and i need to go to the a well, dement across stuff where all things are considered either. well this is a home addition to remind you were discussing. you great the okay, let's go back to mary. all right, the way when i went to the break, you were talking about europe and headlines continue. my friends. yeah. so we just, um, the latest headlines are, is that something like 60 f sixteens dating back to the 1970s will be procured from a number of european countries. um, but how is this going to happen?

and why america isn't contributing any themselves? is rather old. i find um and so does it got this hello and how do we fill that gap? you know, what are they earliest opportunity? what was the f sixteens in ukraine? i think. well realistically, be next summer. some people saying may be spring, but i've just read today that the pilots, the training pilots were needs to be sent city to you. okay. for training before they stop the actual f. 16 training. so what is the training in the u. k? is it language lessons? i'm wondering if the role of my country honestly and leave training will interest in martin also. i mean, the, the, the, the, the infrastructure that is needed to maintain these play of okay, they're all, but they're still sophisticated, relatively for other air forces in the world. what about these air strips setting? do they exist in georgia? me see if that to you. so well, the f,

16 air scripts be somehow magically immune from being attacked. i mean, and then you know, all of the spare parts of the fuel and all that. i mean, this is a major, major undertake. i don't believe it's going to ever happen. i think it's, i think it's just, they're talking out of their sleep, george. right. but just the ascending more and more stuff and it goes in the for your grade is going to be what's the next thing that they go to the aid? i mean, we, you know, we, we had the drum b though, we need the, the, the, the tires and the, the drum and tank. so the name of the gentleman dies that way. we need the american tanks. i go, you go to the, the n one abrams. thanks. i know what i would need the f sixteens. okay. go the 60 ins or what? well now we need this a, d, m, as must, uh, the way you go that. so go to, we've got the next thing that's going to turn the tide because it hasn't done so. i mean, and what was interesting is, um, let me go back to the point, but blinking, delusional talk. is that a blinking versus said a deep right?

well, this counter offensive, very, very successful, basically 50 percent of what the territory russia gain since uh, it started its operations, 50 percent has been one by, by ukraine. and then you look at the washington po, as you know, they actually get a show show the math, there's nothing like 50 percent. i mean they're just so you know, they just, they're just making this up and up to the 50 percent of the territory. there was nothing like it, i mean is, is, you know, the green is a one very small amount of territory back, but it's not nothing like 50 percent. that means it's still an enormous rabbits are true, but rough or those game, but yeah, they just keep fueling this uh, this delusion. and the question is what, what's the end game here? and none of them on my end here they are the do have something in common with the show them but blinking sullivan, they're not able to spell out well what, what's your, what's your in game here was, oh yeah, well, you know, we,

we've got to show a democracy is prevails over a autocracies colton. you know, most must be stopped. uh, you know, you know, you, you, your most be saved from the boot. and so i gave him the, you know, they're not able to spell out even what they're trying to do. all of them, well let's just keep this going and tell everyone what a fantastic successive has been. we should have. well, is this a continue with that, marty? it's, it's very interesting. you have these pundents as a rush has already been defeated or it's, it's losing. okay. it's a what, what was it georgia think you're the one that does um, pointed it out to me, right. rush is a diminished power of power that is being diminished and then well, that just brings up the question. if it brush it is, be, is a diminishing, it's out of diminishing trajectory those, those are the words been, why shouldn't ukraine be in nature? they don't need nato if they're diminishing rushes, military power. the 2nd issue here is obsession with square meters. i find

that a nonsensical if you go back again, if you just listen to what people say, where is stephen cohen would say, put yourself in the other guy shoes. you know, the russian objective is, be nice vacation in demilitarization. it's demilitarized thing. you great, it's not seeking territory per se. now that may change in the future when russia has its own offensive. my point in bringing up those 2 points is that the, the, the, the narratives are so skewed. i mean, there's nothing each other. and i think that's an intentional again, but on the, on the part of the blankets and all the rest of them. and that's just skewed, i guess. i think the point made by all, but in the interview with them, a tough guy was bringing him. he said, look, the west just doesn't understand the russian, this is the problem. you know, you have this different ideas, different perspectives on democracy,

the state building and the future of, of how people consider on the countries. russians place. huge emphasis on the size and unity of the country 1st and foremost before so called western ideas of democracy and unfree gentleman, accountability to elected officials. we don't get that, we don't understand that, but russia, russia will never give in with the c binion's right? no matter what the case is, i mean, made the 2nd point this, it was, the ukraine will never, ever have the numbers. when we talk about soldiers, let me talk about this and we're going to, they will never be able to match what russia is producing. and so, you know, the new idea as well, okay. maybe maybe the more should be moved, it should be transferred to the sky. can we, you know, have a lot of f sixteens of a mix and that would be an amazing media destruction for at least 6 months. ringback a year just so we can get to 2024. before i would put money on trump, coming back in, i mean i would put literally put my grandmother savings on it. i really do think

it's an issue. negligible, the front of you telling the screws the motion. you put the guy in jail, i'm always just guaranteed to to run this press the but there is this delusion there. is this a talk over these, these, this frontier and the general list of just playing along with this and producing more fake news? i mean, it's not being picked up. it is interesting. how will she gentle, very recently talked about the ukraine on me, making some sort of achievement along that front line, the russian, the russian defense line 3 lines. in fact, of these concrete set of dragons cheats, but still true, they didn't make it. i mean, if you come in forces breakthrough with those 3 lines of jo dragons teeth. you don't think that's going to be on the front page. the guardian forces, and you can say, you know, where's the skis $1000000000.00? it didn't happen. it won't happen. well, you have and what you'll find is some of the villages on the other side, some of the villages, the rest of it was holding onto it on the other side,

in the ukraine side. and sometimes they give them up, they get bored of them, they get rest of them. you know, you kindful, take the village and certainly everybody pulls out a sofa and stuff today. oh, the self is, you know, the big one village in population of state. we do a one time was 43 people. so i mean we're talking about village, where the scott scott resorted. guy you have on the show officer said recently that there were a number of cases that he supported of the training. and so his offices going, working on foot and going through these dragons teeth, taking sofas themselves personally, most social media, and then scuffling back so that that's how pathetic it is. you know, that's really where we are with the crime or what the charge also in the mix here was the rest of the you go to color moist. the well believe to be one of the sponsors of a, of zalinski when he was running for president. but arrested on fraud, which none of us cuz he's bikes for but yeah,

um this whole push to this anti corruption. so it was like, 15 minutes ago you could talk about corruption and ukraine. now it's like is his own stays, cleaning it all up. okay. though there still will be an audit here. what do you read into the, what the weight? is it a consolidation? because it seems to me that's what i excuse even more isolated and making them even more dependent on, on washington. he doesn't have to listen. anybody in the european union, he doesn't care because the americans don't care what's going on there. and this cannot be coincidental. well, i think it's, uh, it is consolidation. it's a matter of ensuring that t of is completely subordinate to america's requirements. and i called them royce, gave someone that they might because i've never been very happy about. they think he's very untrustworthy. i mean, not just the corruption, they don't go so much that you know, he likes money. i mean, you know, who doesn't, um it was it small that they think that he might just see if he can work out some

kind of a deal with the other options. he said things in the past. um, you know, some years ago in which he pretty much is the said, what is all this? but this will be a visit to him. i think it was 2017 that the americans are ready to fight to the last ukrainian. they don't really care about all well that they're just using us as a battering ram against russia. i mean, this is very all this, but it was all this to go to my skin 10 years ago when you blood things like that, about it. in interviews with the new york times, the americans really don't appreciate it very much and they put cold on my skin, all the sanctions list already some time ago. and the now they have, you know, but the settings of ends get well enough already. you know, you've got to get him out, you got to get out all of the people around you who may think this is nuts. we need to work something out. now where, you know, we're, we're just being led to the store to buy the united states. they don't care about

us, you know, where, where, where just a, uh, a nice simple uh tool. and i think they will, they what they want, everyone like that are still, which is another one. i think they want the demo as well. but anyway, anyway, to quickly talk some sense has got to be moved out of the way the n m in those that remain does it still can participate and benefit from the graphs because every time you know they're going to visual sets up by way above another 1000000000 for you know, really by the next the questions and the couch. we're really good for you are. yeah, an extraordinary, isn't it, isn't it so? so funny the on let me look a american and british press coverage of the claim will one thing we don't see. one thing that we should see, but we've done se, is we'd never see profile pitches, but profile pieces of equipment officials, now we do protocol pictures, big pieces of our own officials or run ministers. you know, there's

a big joke going around, breast them. now the moment about this new defense minister, we just, um, that's a prime ministers just installed. it has no experience. it's over in the ministry. doesn't even know when fargo yeah. but in new train, we don't see these profiles on these top people because that would be really difficult when that that'd be ready or put out or you do profiles on people who are living in multi 1000000 dollar villas, you know, have a complete entourage, buddy gods, and i think up to those and own real estate in, in, in the bahamas and, and etc, etc, etc. the final picture circulating on section 8, it might be faked, it might be photoshop, but it's very funny. it's a picture of a ukranian lead to an m p. 's by media assembly. i wouldn't name up until the picture. there's a 2 picture double shots. one is the beginning of the pinball of what she's extremely skinny. holding an $1847.00, smiling towards the camera, and more recent photographs of how shall i say being rather large and out in $11.00 to so you know,

what do gas to do when they suddenly get lots of money to do a little more. and so it can be a great diet for settlement and certainly raising robin. and unfortunately gentlemen, we've run out of time on a think, my guess in budapest and remember to catch them. i think our viewers were watching us here at our teach the next time. remember, across suckers, the, the, the

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