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this page, let's get not to hold fault. there is this vivid air of mistrust in the atmosphere, and the countries decided to the counter drugs carts we to do the financial transaction. we see a clear cautiousness ball from the rain, the inside in the united states. so with that said, i think this qur'an situation. the prisoner's voc could open up a new front in size between the 2 countries. but whether or not this is going to be translated into a new practice of actually a road map in base. the 2 cars basically put sets of other issues, remains to be seen for them. also, there is certainly doesn't and will be very easily watching how that develops about $6000000000.00. it's no small sum of money. it frozen assets. um, how significant is it for iran, and do you have any idea what it will be spent on a believe us? a said it'd be going to a few minutes heavy and 8 on demetrius it's. this certainly is
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a big amount of money and by didn't have space to strong credit systems back home. some republicans have talked about the us being black man or having to pay some ras, of money. that's the truth of the matter is that this is not the charity money. this is the money that legally belongs to iran and has been illegally blocked by the united states. so the money is the presidency rainy. impress then just gave an interview and said that the ron is going to spend the money, they whoever it needs. and according to the prior agreements, it is supposed to go through the trajectory of humanitarian spendings. this is something that had been, has been said so far, but just one point that is could be, could be related to the conversation is that when it comes to humanitarian issue,
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the united states has a very interesting background in that i can remember that due to these sanctions you on has not, was not able to import medicine. then it was dealing with 19 and then now they're talking about humans here in issues for people sitting here and to run. it sounds a little bit more ridiculous that united states talks about the mentoring issues. but the thing is that so far it has been agreed that the money is going to be transferred into a bank and guitar. and then these times for the domestic needs of the country, but certainly appears to be some contradictions that be interesting to see if the interest is also paid on that $6000000000.00. does the inside or city puts go, unless great talking on the program. thank you. thank you very much. that's how the world is looking this tuesday evening from moscow will use analysis on our website as always oxy dot com. i'll be back in 30. but do stay with us for our interview with the russian foreign ministry spokesman raised the car, but enough,
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coming up next. welcome to the to the eastern economics are joining us today is maria's, however, the spoke sooner of the russian minister of foreign affairs. even though we're holding this meeting in the far east, i'd like to start with you. russia is often accused of being your century, to be honest, i haven't heard this one before. are they now accusing us of our geographic location on top of everything else? does we tend to accuse a sales of because for a very long time, throughout the centuries, there's a simple answer to it. i don't know if that was your question or not, but i think it's very simple or geography implies both european and asian presidents. it's a given, you can argue with geographers, we're both in europe and asia, and we're the bridge between europe and asia. it's obvious that's number one, as far as our civilizational foundations are concerned. and thankfully, we finally admitted it to ourselves, which wasn't easy. it took awhile that our country is
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a civilization in its own right. not just some conglomerate, or a community, but a proper civilization, which means unity or synergy which could be a better term of different cultures. people's ethnicities, world views, philosophies, and so on. in this sense, of course, the european civilization in its best manifestations is one of its key components. i'm not talking about the condition of western europe has driven itself into these days. which negates the very roots of the european civilization. i'm talking about it's good and positive achievements that have been driving our development for many centuries, even for millennial. yeah. awesome. so then you've added a philosophical note conversation one year from now was, oh i just followed your leave. yes, i think we both appreciate so the so, so let's see. well, let's start with you on some of the more practical issues before. so came back to discussing brushes,
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asian identity among other things. in spite of all the declarations, european countries remain the largest bias of russian l. n. g. as far as i know, russia is still the 2nd largest supplier for the coincidence. how do you explain that? why do you think you are still buying gas from russia? despise all the statements that russian natural gas will do, please, but african agent or whatever resources. one can play with words all they want, which is what is western and native a central group of countries is doing. they can go ahead and play with words or even letters, but they can't to nice science with facts and reality. cutting yourself from sources of energy means undermining your own development and achievements for decades to come. it makes sense that every country would like to have alternative energy suppliers to ensure its sovereignty, independence, and have a sense of security. i can relate to that, but the thing is they can't afford completely giving up the russian energy
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resources. i believe they realize this by now, and speaking of their future prospects, they know the math. once they get off their podiums with mikes and start talking to their businesses, they get very clear numbers. and there's one more important factor at play here. all these new moves that western europe is trying out now are not actually of their own choosing or making. they've been too long under washington's influence. and as a result, a number of leading you companies ended up taking off and leaving, registering their businesses across the ocean. but what does it mean? it means more taxes. it means that instead of financially supporting the new, they are now supporting usa in other countries. and now that they've got all this on their plate, making bold statements is becoming less funds. another important factor here is that all this information noise, all this fuss is built on a false premise on completely false narratives. and it's obvious the scandal in estonia and scandals another country is make them show their true colors. let's
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talk about true colors. just recently, new customs restrictions we introduced against russian citizens. i'm sure you've heard of this from can you did just outreach us? yes. they've set off even the most experienced people. right. the show can in terms of both this q i'm pets, and this on the one hand that directs it against all russian people, all hold as of a rush, impossible on data home. the fun even covers personal care items. it's a little bit too much, even for the most sophisticated mind. what's your personal and professional take on this martha? as for the 1st part of your question, i would agree that these sanctions have shocked everyone is they are truly beyond all reason. i don't even know how much lower one can really go storing it. that, but still was this, how can we explain this? it's racism. we don't need to look for other terms. it's pure racism. it has always been there historically in the western centric model that we now call the collective west. but unfortunately,
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it has always been at their court to some extent replacing the true traditional values. the foundations of the western civilization that we hear in russia tried to preserve. and the west tries to get rid of in particular by not fighting racism the way they should previously, racism was flourishing in the policies of colonialism, slave trade, exploitation of other countries and other imperialistic concepts you send the 20th century, arrived with large scale industrialization and a whole new logistic model, human rights in the early 20th century. it was still a long way from that. yes, but the discourse was only just the racism started to fester and evolved into naziism and fascism is the same thing. it's about dividing people into 2 groups as those were entitled, and those who are not, why not? because some of them are smarter or kinder than the others because the different no, just because idea logistics come up with a set of facts that allows to separate one group of people from the other screen.
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and it doesn't matter that someone is objectively stronger and can use their strength or is better at physics because they have studied it and have a talent or cups. well, no, it's nothing like that. it's a classical approach used to explain the injustices of this world because someone has a different shape. it's know who's over the years or the head, which i don't like it, but it's your fault. yes. well then there was a break after world war 2. they got a grip button, their races slip, so to say that it comes on buttons every now and then what are these for almost 50 years, they managed to keep their true sentiments. well, we hit them, but without eradicating it, which is certainly sad. and they were all sorts of things that were a manifestation of racism. but it was all disguised braces so and they denied it being such as they denied it in the wes, i'm in the, in the you and kept talking about human rights. they felt the more they talked about it, the less insignificant this problem would appear and the fewer people would notice it. and then it all got out of hands with the collapse of the bipolar world. the
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system that kept racism in check. in fact, it was the soviet union that initiated the the colonization process and supported it with actions and 8 or not words with the soviet union gone. it all started yet again, right from the beginning. so the baltic states, for example, started segregating their own nation discriminating against their own citizens, that even devised a new concept of non citizens for part of their native population. the new new goes as they call them, so exactly. and then, little by little transnational corporations came into play. all this lead to the situation we have to day with burrell saying that there is a garden and a jungle afterwards, instead of apologizing for his words, are taking them back or blaming it on a bad script. or a slip of the tongue, she further elaborate it on the topic asserting that there is a golden 1000000000. and apparently the rest of us who are not golden. and he said very clearly is that the rest of the world must surface golden 1000000000. and i
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believe to be on this confiscated toilet peoples in yulu, even for the golden be them. they're probably running out on the snow for the speech. it's mentioned in official document. well, you probably know, they keep running out every now and then they've mentioned it before. i can't see why else i don't. how do you think we should rather considerate some sort of a geo political anecdote, or is this a sign of some, quite serious trys where fi soon given the context of world war 2. you already mentioned, i'm this and patients of cause the shadow on other nations, you know, when it's both tragic and comic is called a tragic comedy. a tragic comedy is a literary genre that's got it all. the anecdotal the irony, the sarcasm, and at the same time, it's a tragedy in a sense of some unavoidable do. and that's all mixed in this genre. you know, like sweet and sour sauce, when to opposite tastes, workers one blend. it's the same with tragic comedy. watching it gives one's mixed
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feelings between your bizarre, funny, and repulsive. but once you work through the emotions and start seeing the meaning of it, it becomes clear that it's very threatening. it's extremely threatening because it's not some random thing, but almost there are some reasons that go down very deep. it's not the work of some stupid clark and brussels who put together this paper. it's a product of their mentality that reflects their attitude deep down to the rest of the world. by the way, i think one of the most famous view pin to us for is one set that to the persons to values one needs to observe how they treat and all difference. but the people they don't like the way and feed them defines that kind of pressing you. ok? so i've many philosophers made similar observations gone the for example, if i recall it correctly, he said that the civilization of the nation and the society are only as great as they treat their animals. you see, but pardon me, the joke is that this civilization, that is western europe, that this native centric group started protecting the rights of animals better than
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they do the rights of people. so it's not the problem. it's not that they don't understand they do, but they simply believe that there are people whose rights need protecting more than everybody else. the mutual for an offense, jo accused, and some part is to protect the rights of russian citizens. versus fine policy is based on the principle of neutrality. with russia stick to the me shows the principle in reference to this measure. since russia will have to respond one way or another, or maybe the principle of reciprocity, or would we rather stick to on sets of values? you know, in cases like this, when it's not about the diplomatic missions and diplomatic staff, the regime of work are discontinuing their work. but when it's on a completely different scale, it's about how all of the country citizens are treated. we have to work out our response together with the agencies. and right now we're in talks with them, so i won't talk about it for now. not because i don't want to or have no opinion of
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my own. but because we need to give some time to the agencies to complete their work in this regard. and so it will come to shock to some extent. well, as for the shock, you know, when they come up with the idea of 80 genders and force others to believe the same isn't shocking. and when people pass of mind blowing, number of laws concerning gender transition and home hormonal therapy for their own children, boys and girls, isn't this shocking? they're doing it to their own people. they've made a call out of it. you see the fundamental controversy behind this? it's a dead end track and they're on it in every other respect too much. i honestly recommend everyone to find some time to read the g 20 declaration, even if you're not into international politics, even if you don't need it for work. it's an important and very curious document and it's long and with over 80 clauses. a large group of experts work to produce it over an entire year. and if you read it, you'll see things that will shock you. i was truly shocked when i did. the g. 20
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consists among others of the usa, canada, a number of e u nations. and the g. 20 declaration has been signed by these nations. and the declaration says, among other things, the drugs are a threat to be combated. and this makes me want to ask the united states canada, and these be you nations. so where is there a real position? is it real when they have their signatures under the don't g 20 declaration that calls combating drugs? because that's what it does, like, where is it real? when these same countries go on and legalize drugs internally? and on top of that, run campaigns promoting an international need to have others do the same. it's a clear contradiction of how can their position or actions towards russia be any better. you know, your was truly and deeply shocked when you know, i worked for a few years in the russian mission to the u. n. in new york city in manhattan. and we were working really long hours up to 19 hours every day in close contact with
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fellow citizens. and americans and manhattan is pretty small and it's a small island with a tiny area. so 2 months and you get to know absolutely everything there. all the spots, streets, and people stuff. so when i visited manhattan, the last year i was shot even though not by what they turned it into during the pandemic years and why they still can't handle all the self and dirt and, and process trash everywhere as bad. as it is they, they'll sort that out don't. i was shocked to see shops. so when legal has drugs almost on every corner in manhattan, and we're not talking about some cd suburbs where taxi's don't go and people are warned to stay away from the best of everything and america back in 2005, i wasn't all when i saw america, i was in best buy a lot of things, and i was truly convinced that it's the civilization that will save the world yet. now, when i see drug dealers offering drugs to people in cars waiting for the traffic light to change in central new york, one cuz of all i want to ask is, wait,
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is this the same usa that is trying to teach in previous to the world? how to live? well, they've got this nest right here in the center of their most progressive cities, the financial heart of the country. remember how back in the early 2000 that the u . s. was all over russia for the license merchandise, services and lots of counterfeit stuff on our market. and what happens in the us now versus tv report recently, how old? around 8 or 9 pm. people come out to put counter foot goods on rags, right? on the sidewalks all across manhattan is selling face of everything. you name it women's bags, perfume scarves and they don't have to hide it. well. and city folk have to walk around these piles on the ground the for us. and in the lower part of manhattan, there are places where this stuff is on sale, 247, right? yeah, this is what's truly shocking when the same people say white and then turn around and call the same things black with it's noon psychological mechanism. it's easier to teach others how to me when you have a little knowledge of yourself. you know,
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to be honest, i can't find any such example or seeing him look. i talked to people from different countries and now i read the documents adopted by their government. so i see the doctrines developed in different continents and then regional integration blocks. and i haven't seen such a dichotomy such and bipolar disorder anywhere else. deluca. my next question is precisely about this. the customer reco grossey who's north america was a representative overs taxable international organizations. the i e e, a set the, the use of depleted uranium. i'm a mission which the us is going to supply to cream, does not have, and you realize you called consequences. sure that it may not look like a threat when you're sitting in vienna. but you don't have to be a rocket science is to real, is that it does pose assess and danger for starters. now this is what is called the propaganda look at what they did here for some media in general. and those who provoked these remarks. those who put these questions to mr. gross, you rightly said that he's had a v i a, a, b i a e,
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a deals with nuclear energy. that's what i am not a physicist study and i went to school, i got an excellent grade in physics, but that was a long time ago. so when i heard the statements yesterday, i called the coach accomplish institute, which by the way, is also representative here at the forum. i talked to the expert office, they sent some notes and they sent me some notes. they really, i also read some of the information that we already had, but the point is those in the west who are trying to justify the supply of depleted uranium ammunition, they all say, what's the difference show? i'm talking about the people in washington state department, the white house, and those in london like is they base their narrative on the premises. there's a sammy edition is like any other. there's no different space, a new one. why not? because the uranium is depleted. so there's no components that makes it or a video access. yes, but it's misleading, but they're not telling the whole story. there was holding the key part of my
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opinion. if i know what it is that it's not just a coincidence, it's a deliberate attempt to hush it up and distort the narrative. the thing is depleted, uranium is a heavy metal. if we look at it in these terms, from a chemical standpoint, we'll see that it's a very different story, but they don't talk about that. they emphasize the nuclear component and put the question to the head of a nuclear security organization. yes. but what does that have to do with that? that's what we're talking about, a heavy metal. and yet it's something that even children would understand. so i'm probably thinking of russian like, you know, i doubt that their school is teach this information even though when heavy metals accumulate in the environment, when they get into the human body into food, it leads to catastrophic consequences including cancer with mr. let me give an example to make it clear immune, some containing heavy metals, such as the depleted uranium that produces toxic era slides with you today, mr. gross, he didn't talk about this because it's not his area of expertise. so precious. he went with the question that we've given and only talked about one aspect of
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features, but i think he understood the problem. like when the ammunition penetrates the arm or the depleted uranium course that's up in kind of night and a depleted uranium liner and a power charge is even worse. what on people who deal with these things professionally like chemist cannot be unaware of this stuff. but i think that, physicists also notice as well. but once again, sort of, he stayed with them his mandate that and woke up with him to where understand correctly that who ever ends up owning this, terry to the environment that will be contaminated the even if the laundry mass passenger cream, there will be green damage to human health, to save for quote, unquote, also emission of uranium. the $238.00 is only safe when it's coming from the outside. but uneasy when you're rainy, i'm oxide. aerosol gets into the human body is very dangerous unless it causes cancer, right. and yeah, but is there anybody who doesn't know that as well, and everybody knows that it's in the literature on the events and use a slab. yeah, it's in textbooks. yeah. well general reading not just about global or regional
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crises, it's trivial. it's only complicated for you and me because it's not our field. that's people who work with chemistry and physics for a living. consider a common knowledge one night. so it's part of the propaganda sort of. they take a person in a very high position. someone who has been on the news recently because of the situation with the nuclear power plants, and they ask him a question which is just outside of his direct responsibilities. and then it goes into the mainstream for you as exculpatory evidence for the west. i. mr. houton discussion to wisdom mo, disappear on day, took off a lot of our time. let's talk about the east, which we all know is consechi to an exception. a diverse to. this is eastern economics from brought together participants. not only from the far as the from the middle east, this kind of diversity is targeting the 4 to 8 countries in asia. the last time i checked. how is the work about diplomats on the eastern front of diplomacy in
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general, different from our contacts with the west? do you have to adjust to approach your methods of reaching agreements on ensuring that the sustainable in which you, regardless each country has its own specifics? sometimes you can find countries on one continent that are united through common language, religion or even history, but are at the same time, very different through traditions formed over model history at the it's all very individual. and there's also the human factors shape. one person can find a quick solution to the problem at hand, where is other people in the same country or public agencies can put the brakes on them that are creating a lot of red tape, which so i wouldn't generalize here. so there are no formulas that apply to an entire continent or even region. politically, there are differences of course, right? you'll probably say that we're getting too deep into philosophy here. but in matters like this, you can't do without philosophy. when it all boils down to ideology, the western world ideology, the hinges on domination and imposing its world view on all the other countries.
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why? and this is what stands in the way of finding a solution to any problems. like you know, why? because diplomacy is about agreement, it's one side tries to understand what the other side is thinking, and together they start searching for common ground on the, bringing their positions closer to each other, reaching a compromised vision like however, it's only possible in a relationship between peoples. in a dialogue built on mutual respect and del, but this, you see is not an option for the west for western europe. us, not that since the entire nato sentra system for it, for them. it's just unacceptable right now to you and me that way of looking at things as almost in comprehensible more of them i just like we can't fully grasp the horrors of racism. and historically in today because we didn't have, it is a world view. so i think we have never suffered the oppression to slavery. i. she's what we read about it in the box, inside and movies and documentaries, but thank god we've never been on either side of this dreadful matter. so it's just like that here. we can't even fathom what it's like to have this sense of
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exceptionalism. how certain countries think themselves as above all others. why is it there on top of a mountain and all those below most cows, how to the image, something like that, they actually live with these ideas and these, can you understand what it's like? well, i think it's impossible for people like us. he was, was that not? it's right. it's impossible to understand. yes. but you can see isn't the way the east oriented international organizations are developed. the way this truck ship is not so rigorous, i mean, yeah. as well, with us. i'm a global south seas. things differently, it is survive colonial or semi colonial rule, and they have a much greater understanding of the western lab and we do that at their mindset and emotional outlook. because up until recently, the west used to exploit them. and the, the colonization, the process they went through was not purely political, new, fresh, they did not sit on the un general assembly committees for that. they had to fight for their freedom with, with them they want, they know these people from the inside out. they know how the westerners left
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behind all their little hooks in politics and the economy in national security. they know all the tools and believers that the west uses to influence things from interference, domestic affairs, all the way to regime change it out. and just look at what happens on the african comments, because we're in some asian countries by someone in that sense. these nations give, have 1st hand experience of the western approach, not just from textbook whatnot. and what's more, they've developed a very different philosophy, your relationship machine. nobody forces anything on anyone use your international law. and that's the foundation. but no one could impose their own world view or mindset or anyone else. i'm right there. thank you for your time. thank you. thank you for watching. the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, [000:00:00;00] the 1834 france invaded algeria and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the column is known as the new art to the best land. from day one, the local population was put into an unequal position and was briefly exploited. this cause and as discontent. the people of l g area began their long term fight for independence. in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war
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against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress, to rebuild you and using cruel measures. whole villages were wiped out acts of georgia and executions of civil people, including pregnant women children and old people took place more than 2000000 people were born into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help. cl, jerry and patriots managed to induce france to start seize negotiations in 1962 heavy and the guards were assigned 40 l. jerry on the bass towards independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price. algeria by rights is considered to be a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the depths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. the,
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