it's great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. thank you for having the issue. now. uh, africa is definitely a no stranger to cause or entrenched governments which probably go hand in glove. but i heard you saying that this latest uprisings are somewhat different from the way that the content with them is back in the 19 sixty's. what's the difference? they closed the experience and right now download before from what we experienced in imagine sixty's. but what is the difference about the cruise is the nature of the species, you know, telling us why they're at the taking of our government induced countries. now, you know, and that also shows that in a way that the eh, do after dies so fast, don't move beyond this, just this, you know, i'm, that's what i call the advocates progress. so should you know, under, so guess of military cause the now at west africa now even just introduced bitches

. everything remain the same. but the discharge is the fact that, you know, in the recent codes, that's true. that was in molly. there was in the book, you know, the one who's booking at paso, they're wanting their new jazz. they're all stay the same thing. which is the fact that at that is security has played very prominent for you though i the, the disclosures i wasn't able to manage is to just tell me from there is, uh, that is such as the i'm a hostile for the uh, security programs know which default is the government, i've not been able to money and that is why they actually come in and, you know, i started doing that fact that's not the problem. it's um, so what i really means is that the changes that i've taken place past, you know, about this last says 60 years, uh 60 as a number. no have money. i'm offended by you. so are the applicant conditions. and

so the military request is to be pumped into eh, eh, government, i really like this opportunity, you know, provide any condition on this right? for them now you mentioned uh several uh, occlusal randy and uh, i want to sort of stress for our audience that while the events in niger and gamble in our, in the news, there has been a dozen of cruise in africa throughout the continent over the last 3 years now, some of the earlier uprisings had for him. benefactors, for example, the removal of warm are good off he and leave. there was a bit a, to a substantial, extends from abroad. do you see any one have in the latest developments? one is we have to look at the way, uh, the national relations know is special about, you know, a, you always see

a lot of 40 dimensions on flooding. definitely processing that africa. um, but you know, with regards to a change, do you think government, you know, i don't want to be very, you know, and bronze i've, i've seen the 5 back the funding has to, i probably know. but, you know, if you look at the history of africa, you know, as funny, this will be defending zillow for anybody at impacts. what else besides being and as being the opposite of the dr. guys tell me what it does to, to change a government, the august the, should i change the changes in government. so you see a lot of at f for a on excellence with many and really cheap crews of workforce typically, you know, i think there's a slight difference even there might be that front of me that based on but also test to beginning to come to dance with brandy to you know, and so this, this to be the, the, the rest of the tree,

all just sort of and i was thinking about using the actually the unhappy, what is this something, not the tax. and that also trying to change things, you know, like my goal was the me, it gives, you know, take the bull by the on, you know, they want to do the best thing and you know, it, to be honest, i do what they should do to bring about the time development i so um with regard to live, i mean for the vision, if you look at the, the, the fuel costs that have taken place. no, the last 5. what was it listed on even this? and so just to actually i agree with the, with the, the forwarding as to where i, within the, the, i got 32 in the afternoon them to me, it's like any jack a case. i'm all that. so uh right now i think it's a, there's a slight change, you know, in terms of visiting that fairly soon because they often times of stuff i'd be coming to several classes or something. i'm, that'd be good to ask a lot of questions. they really come on, i forgot some districts do now uh, being myself from russia, just have to ask you because some of observers

a note in that. so i'm protest, there's in, i, uh niger care is russian flags. and i certainly don't think that most go has a, that kind of ability to influence events on the ground in niger. but i wonder, what do you think this is emblematic or what are you seeing the, what kind of message, what kind of attitude those people who brought the russians likes with down onto the streets, wanted to send it out to me, you know, and you know, really cool to places, i mean to play, sorry, when it is a, in those countries this congress actually bumped the out in, quote, let me because i don't like the language definitely now must pass the class, you know, the way the company and up on the demo of that so you're yeah, like you're saying that the want to actually not happy with the additional top otherwise to have for the nice the you know, the last the 60 says 60 is legal. i know that maybe the last longer and 50

years now. but you know, this is route to brush, i'm flexible in those countries. my happy lives in via, you know, not in the amount of politics. you also get to choose your parking lot. so you also fit to choose truly wonderful, good weekend. so maybe it's this time of saying that we have talked with the own. a lot of times you're not packing us. we want to move to new cabinets. and the kinds of restaurants that might be, might, that might be what they are. the messages are sending. you know, um, but i am also wondering, you know, because we do, we have nothing. we have no way of experiencing pulling into that. we don't have that kind of situation like that. but we also the sound was the we actually why advertising restaurants not? i do russians involved in this, the immediately bunch of stuff is picking a garbage it off of the as a, who knows how to, why i those the company. and i'm buying the french lots done all the french to me

and, you know, did my younger than actually demetrius. i hope that it might be brought in that uh there are signs. this lets you know, so to speak. you know, the companies because they were in the way, does it as a private business and sure they have certain, uh, uh, protection by the russian government, but i assume they're acting on the, on the base of a formal contract. yeah, that's my goodness, you know, is that, personally, was the way it is specifically directions to this all the way you put them together . we dispute ticket that you begin to ask a lot of questions, you know, and that is why does this come back? that's not only what is the kitchen or bringing about the system, the actually, the white thing, the same go. well there was, i was the man, my not be involved, no bugs, you know, dr. now, you're not as much as you're moving away from it. if i push on, you know,

a miniature box or a, a late fee offer, so you'll have to look for some money to the partners. i understand that and, and my dressing is a very interesting case. because up until this uprising, it was considered to be a solid, the western partner. it costs an american air base. we have roughly a 1000 troops on it. and if we check western publications 420212022, they were very complimentary on the country, but not anymore on this. and because of those assets, military assets, now, correct. and i'm here the west of washington, and particularly a haven't made any decisive or a birds moves to stabilize the situation. how do you explain this hasn't been seen on the part of the west to, you know, come in the funds, what they have on the ground reach in the past, they did the quite decisively. well this, this toby's really different. you know,

i'm with the was temperament. know in this country. i know it just went on the west jane type in our data for, you know, just the glasses dish or no. because as you're asking the french government to leave, i guess, maybe since the cost of lives, this has been this business days, all the time to move the business over from this functions are you asked the accidentally sunlight, ronnie? so i was 0 right now. you know, mid of the countries in the ways we'll have to stay a little while now i'm watch, you know, on the side of the disclosures themselves, you know, as they have decided what their 1000 off the west department right now. i'm because out it is so much ice sentiment against the, the west, the united states, the, i'm the europeans i'm, that's what i said for the francophone congress. i know they folks, you know,

there for us. and so i saw that of the basically taking action on the, on how that will manage the situation. you know, um, right now we also looked at the we also try it as much as possible to look at how we do you know, and look for a peaceful settlement in this price is to know am for the specialist and vigorous punches what we need to do you know, obviously the, the stuff cost is running around persistently looking for with or way way out of that this the contact joe's ministry a purchase across the assemblage on the left side. you know, we look for solutions. interesting. the symptoms, i'm not actually looking at the root causes of this for upside, but sometimes you're used to dealing with urgent or very painful systems and you've already single doubt insecure it as the most pressing concern,

the maybe generating a freely many other problems. and i heard you say this is an issue that's good and should be addressed collectively that africa should come together and agree on how to read the continent of insecurity. what stands in the way and do you think i'll send, particularly the africans can do that by themselves without for an assistance even j, and for an assistance, be you in peacekeeping or, you know, private contractors with having you do anything. the africans can do it by themselves. right now the leg is that no one contract to manage. and no one's going to come find a solution to issues of security, especially security monitoring from federal reason. it's against you and you have the, the iris, you know, in the gulf of the giving you the golf course,

give you this kind of this, the programs when needs the international community to come together to look for some new jobs because it was, you have your company in the country, it is bogged or protected door back hunters. and this does, does that, does the contest, but it, it has uh its palms. we do it to do the confidence level. we have what thursday, my son to to know, do a high best rubbish in the functions. i'm over also for today i forgot the physics solutions. no, it's not just been proc nice. we need the pack them. uh mostly we are. so she'll be able to look in, want to find solutions to solve this basic problems. you know, the progress, read the many of the programs, everything off the top step strong insights, most of the comic programs of the programs. now is it you, how does this does,

does that cost after the fact you have so much, but this test is this not specification in depth of your mind development in depth . it's just not touching the big big come on people out there. i know was that people off was trip to like i've always said they have to look for some mission. you know, they have to you no, no, no doubt to pick the pull by the, the professor. let me take the bull by the horns right now because we have to take a very short break right now, but we will definitely be discuss people's frustrations in the 2nd half. so set station for that, the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions.

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welcome back to the parts with the associate professor of the nigerian institute of international affairs. but for us, it will be just before the break, we touched upon people's frustrations and i heard the same before the the 21st century. and governments shouldn't be people oriented and development focused on. it's impossible to argue with that. but building a functional, effective government is an arduous task and even the developed countries are struggling with right now. i wonder if you think that those deposed governments should we abdicated that responsibility before the people, or is it the people who have unrealistic expectations about how fast or how much it takes to rectify, not just decades, but centuries long and balances is not the people this is the government

you know, big government is supposed to provide basic massachuset likes and i was citizens how this basic message supplies. you know, i think it then going to be successful company. you have to do the infrastructures, you have to create the environment for you on it's to try, you know, i yeah, the punch is talking about the best. so she's gonna waive this does include punching, waiting for us, talk to us just talk to us. i love that they never in environments. i'm not that not. you have to also look at portions, issues or functions. you don't have to pay for russian. you have to look at the funds, the assistance of both man that has been practicing this countries. you know, sometimes now what i've seen, nobody yet is the, the fact that many of the pen bowman just, i don't, is just the, i'm in the mental game in st. louis, just about the street with the look up the largest. and that's why i am said, you know, that document is the impact of doctors to 50. look at the glasses on. most of you

say yes, this is kind of like a good. i'm the one of the, even though the foundation begins with the country, but we also need the impact on us. wilson, you imagine economy will also make the approximate comics to come into this when we left the test. what was the initial investment us? oh my god, we're looking for portfolio investment. the earliest say which they're at and i'm about is have you talked about is the fact that you know the 21st century programs are the central problems of the mattress century printer center. this started beautiful once more difficult. i talked to several of the show then the, this time because of the date that i talked to is i'm also also the government should be and they want to put, it pays those pins that if people want this and because the probably the problem is, is are maybe the, this is

a very interesting question because obviously own governments, when they come into power, they're interested in delivering something for that. people simply to stay in power . i mean, like if you work well, people will be in favor of you staying on, but i also heard you say that it's not only that the african countries, fans liberal democracy but that liberal democracy sales the african countries. um, this is a very interesting question. one of the russians, because we are definitely not a liberal democracy, but we have a system of government is that uh wants to provide uh, you know, a dignified, secure, and i would say and sold the quality of life for it for the people. but then we either approach is that is not the real liberal democracy model because in order to provide that, i think you have to prioritize those social concerns, social safety nets over typical western issues. like let's say agenda rise. why abortions, there's only you know,

uh unlimited amount of time and effort that the government can uh, dedicate to any particular issues. so i wonder if the western models of development development are really suitable for countries that are indeed struggling with by the most basic uh, really nice for the people. what the has done is to your initial should be where somebody is actually to talk to are supposed to be below them. and then it says, i talked about that it went away. so what we have now was at the system that was placed on those assistant that was, that was brought to us. now i don't know the address, i think i need to make it started visually. i mean, what i mean by, i mean probably the look as it certainly in africa. i've also got this training on down the brought the workers. but i also see that democracy is not the one size fits all. that these give you, if you're pressing the more complex system above me,

you should make sure it all comes with your as this is patricia and i need to go with you all as well. that's good. i mean, as long as you should be, it should be a problem cuz it's such a way that these calls often digital copy. i just, i know that's where the problem is. now is in new york, you like sports in the browser book as the traffic. it is just like the societies, no difference they pass over. how did the below, you know, i'm out of the way for us to get back to you and about that. and then back, in addition to the project, i believe the office is you need the folks on the side that your law is posing, is just the mattress. and the issue was supposed to be the supposed to be the president top professional, you know, into that's just a new one. but now we just, i don't think i'll step back is going to do with this. i just wanted to see because

the conflict, they originally charge because it's just finish the process and it's not actually i do value to the people also democracy. so that should be such that it should value the piece for rich. people actually want to look as we want to look as the budget that fits the budget pacific page, because i've been a few times this stupid people. i heard you say before that there is a huge need for african countries to discover that only unique identities rather than leaving out or living under the world ones because we know from, you know, psychology that you can never be your full self if you're tried to copy someone else, you know, your life, your values, your ways of doing things should come from with them and they shouldn't be able to be in your history and your way of life in your uh, circumstances on the ground. what do you think is standing in the way of with, why do you think it has been so difficult for the africans to chew?

we own off who they are, because it's the amounts he reached. colton is not only in material resources, but also in terms of culture, in terms of philosophical solve, in terms of education. it's a, you know, it's the way, the one of the, one of the places where humanity i originated from. why do you think it's so difficult for, for the africans to look at themselves and respect where they are? i would like to advertise the advocates. i am and after jump in and out. what, what we have to do to realize is it doesn't, i think it's, it's, it's just a different country. it's just up to you. let's do you see your best it gets to the law house. you know, just your policies, your less than all the plan on everything below the bus. i'm positive, i'm economy. so balls are on an identity, which is part of that being the national and culture and language history. well

enough. in fact, we were forced to get a with big be the do your plans, we have a 1000000000 and it's entity for if you decide that that's the only table the i know you said when they came to drop it by the front of that, what was the big this one on the, on the my, on the map was different from the reality associated with it at big groups with contact hospital based on the fast um, progress in new jersey. you find some products in the m ali. let's look at the notes here about the group. there are some of them. i know you have somebody that you need someone to know why this people had to be, they did it, they did back, you saw them additional profit that they went all the way most of the impacts briefing the own rights in their own way. and so now i know for us too many

groups to get that numbers. i'm not actually wanted to be to the not the don't want to do that. and that's why i see a list of passes and make edits because it's in the african countries. we also see what we just guys do. you know, i'm older. so what i am saying is that based on the way africa was that eh, did my kid, you know, have, is probably probably, you know, because we're not allowed to develop. i'm, if we were allowed to do with the documentary, you know, slowly to get to the point where, you know, the best phone just to be and so wait, wait, wait till we ask that. that's what i think it does have time that we should be allowed to people look, you know, we, i don't remember who said it, but it's also included. i think it was one of the leaders of india and independence moment. that freedom is not given. it's taken, it's claimed by the proprietors of development,

so it's not about somebody giving africa their rights and develop as actually you've been driving about and all along. it's about africans understanding who they are, understanding what their needs and what their rights, what their desires are. and um, you know, pursuing them more forcefully, especially given the time that the continent is now at the crossroads of many power struggles and power re balancing. so it's in the good position to appointments always uh the right job. the post over this book. why right body enough for you to you know, i was on the floor where i stood the my rent button after peggy to utilize. after that you look, i think i looked at the paint that you just tell me everybody wants to share. i forgot, you know, don't, they didn't do any adjustment. you're definitely going to be what they should be looking at right now. we should look at the quality of the shop. we should be there

by it is a national system. we should be talking about having to look at it as a back, as a subordinate, you know, because the whole idea of global policies, you know, cuz this is, this is the most opposed to the board to me, which is why what actually does actually react like this right now, you know that they want to be to get on the car business. so china is still in the office that we wanted to keep us on. the quote was rush as to. yeah, but you know, if we wanted to just doesn't, the problem is, is this something with the united states i'm the year. okay. and then the how that works is what we're looking for is, is this hi, sorry about the company that's been so because a lot of the programs lead us, you know, how did they give you all the buckley did she drop of the nice you probably wanted to meet you. right. you know, i so the question i listed with the doctor about the turkey vishal vishal house, the mission i've talked before. one kid i've seen has been my heart. well,

we'll look at 1st the physics it actually we're right. so i'll just do this, but not people who are busy, you know, why, what very far up. because that is, i wish i could, i could how, how does it are for 60 kids? after that, i love to do anything. it was just gives you a lot of money to talk to this for my brother. this is not what it should be. i think we need to go to read the stuff in the right professor of it. we have to leave it there. i just want to say that i, i slightly disagree with you here. i think even over the last 16 years, africa has produced a lot of valuable things and valuable thoughts. but i agree with you to, to me that it's a very high time that the content realizes its own destiny that comes out straight out from its own history rather than from somebody else's prescriptions. but we

have to leave it there. i greatly admire what you being on our show. thank you very much for that. thank you. thank you. thank you for watching. spoke to sarah, again, was a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the, the,

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