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the, the notice of both, both the models you need to do, both of the us for them, the quicker the $50.00. but you pronounce for the 1st phone number here the
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the the, the welcome to the eastern economics are joining us today is maria's, however,
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this book some of the russian minister of foreign affairs. even though we're holding this meeting in the far east, i'd like to start with you. russia is often accused of being your century, to be honest, i haven't heard this one before. are they now accusing us of our geographic location on top of everything else? that's what we tend to accuse a sales of because for the very long time, throughout the centuries, there's a simple answer to it. i don't know if that was your question or not, but i think it's very simple. are geography implies both european and asian presidents. it's a given, you can argue with geography, we're both in europe and asia, and we're the bridge between europe and asia. it's obvious that's number one, as far as our civilizational foundations are concerned. and thankfully, we finally admitted it to ourselves, which was an easy and took a while that our country is a civilization and its own right. not just some conglomerate, or a community, but a proper civilization, which means unity or synergy which could be
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a better term of different cultures. people's ethnicities, world views, philosophies, and so on. in this sense, of course, the european civilization in its best manifestations is one of its key components. i'm not talking about the condition of western europe has driven itself into these days. which negates the very roots of the european civilization. i'm talking about it's good and positive achievements. they've been driving our development for many centuries and even for millennial. yeah. awesome. so the, you've added a philosophical note conversation funding from us was, well, i just followed your leave. yes, i think we both appreciate so the so, so let's see. well, let's start with you on some of the more practical issues before. so came back to discussing rushes, asian identity among other things. in spite of all the declarations, european countries remain the largest bias of russian l. n. g. as far as i know,
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russia is still the 2nd largest supplier for the coincidence. how to explain that? why do you think you are best still buying gas from russia? despise all the statements that russian natural gas will do, please, but african agent or whatever resources. one can play with words all they want, which is what is western and native a central group of countries is doing. they can go ahead and play with words or even letters, but they can't the nice science with facts in reality. cutting yourself from sources of energy means undermining your own development and achievements for decades to come. it makes sense that every country would like to have alternative energy suppliers to ensure its sovereignty, independence, and have a sense of security. i think i can relate to that, but the thing is they can't afford completely giving up the russian energy resources. i believe they've realized this by now, and speaking of their future prospects, they know the math. once they get off their podiums with mikes and start talking to
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their businesses, they get very clear numbers. and there's one more important factor at play here. all these new moves that western europe is trying out now are not actually of their own choosing or making. they've been too long under washington's influence. and as a result, a number of leading you companies ended up taking off and leaving, registering their businesses across the oceans. but what does it mean? it means more taxes. it means that instead of financially supporting the new, they are now supporting usa in other countries. and now that they've got all this on their plate, making bold statements is becoming less funds. another important factor here is that all this information noise, all this fuss is built on a false premise on completely false narratives. and it's obvious the scandal in estonia and scandals and other countries make them show their true colors. let's talk about true colors. just recently, new customs restrictions we introduced against russian citizens. i'm sure you've
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heard of this front in the just outrages. yes, they've set off even the most experienced people. right. they're shocking in terms of both this q i'm pets and this on the one hand, they are directed against all russian people, all hold as of a rush, impossible on data home. the fun even covers personal care items. it's a little bit too much, even for the most sophisticated mind. what's your personal or professional take on this martha? as for the 1st part of your question, i would agree that these sanctions have shocked everyone as they are truly beyond all reason. i don't even know how much lower one can really go storing it, that, but still, what is this? how can we explain this? it's racism. we don't need to look for other terms. it's pure racism. it has always been there historically in the western centric model that we now call the collective west. but unfortunately, it has always been at their court to some extent replacing the true traditional values, foundations of the western civilization that we hear in russia tried to preserve.
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and the west tries to get rid of in particular by not fighting racism the way they should previously, racism was flourishing in the policies of colonialism, slave trade, exploitation of other countries and other imperialistic concepts. you then, the 20th century arrived with large scale industrialization and a whole new logistic model. human rights in the early 20th century. it was still a long way from that. yes, but the discourse was only just the racism started to fester and evolved into naziism in fascism. it's the same thing. it's about dividing people into 2 groups. those were entitled and those who are not, why not? because some of them are smarter or kinder than the others because the different no, just because idea logistics come up with a set of facts that allows to separate one group of people from the others. and it doesn't matter that someone is objectively stronger and can use their strength or is better at physics because they have studied it and have a talent or cooks. well,
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no, it's nothing like that. it's a classical approach used to explain the injustices of this world because someone has a different shape. it's know who's over the years or the head, which i don't like it, but it's your fault. yes, fall. then there was a break after world war 2. they got a grip button, their races slip, so to say, but it comes on button every now and then let us use for almost 50 years. they managed to keep their true sentiments. well, we hit them without eradicating it, which is certainly sad. and they were all sorts of things that were a manifestation of racism. but it was all disguise price. and so, and they denied it being such as they denied it in the us. i'm in the you and kept talking about human rights. they felt the more they talked about it, the less insignificant this problem would appear and the fewer people would notice it. and then it all got out of hand with the collapse of the bipolar world. the system that kept racism in check. in fact, it was the soviet union that initiated the the colonization process and supported
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it with actions and 8 or not words with the soviet union gone. it all started yet again, right from the beginning. so the baltic states, for example, started segregating their own nation discriminating against their own citizens. they even devised a new concept of non citizens for part of their native population. the new new goes as the closing. so exactly, and then little by little transnational corporations came into play. all of this lead to the situation we have to day with burrell saying that there is a garden and a jungle afterwards, instead of apologizing for his words, are taking them back or blaming it on a bad script or a slip of the tongue. she further elaborated on the top deck, asserting that there is a golden billions and apparently the rest of us who are not golden. and he said very clearly as the rest of the world must surface golden 1000000000. and i believe to be on this confiscated toilet peoples in yulu, even for the golden be them. they're probably running out on the snow for the space
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. it's mentioned in official document. well, you probably know, they keep running out every now and then they've mentioned it before. i can't see why else i don't. how do you think we should rather considerate some sort of a jewel political anecdote, or is this a sign of some quite serious trys where fi soon given the context of world war 2. you already mentioned on this and be sent across the shadow on other nations. you know, when it's both tragic and comic is called a tragic comedy. a tragic comedy is a literary genre that's got it all. the anecdotal, the irony of sarcasm, and at the same time, it's a tragedy in a sense of some unavoidable do. and that's all mixed in this genre. you know, like sweet and sour sauce, when to opposite tastes, work as one blend. it's the same with tragic comedy watching it gives one's mixed feelings. it's weird, bizarre, funny, and repulsive. but once you work through the emotions and start seeing the meaning
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of it, it becomes clear that it's very threatening. it's extremely threatening because it's not some random thing. there are some reasons that go down very deep. it's not the work of some stupid clark and brussels who put together this paper. it's a product of their mentality that reflects their attitude deep down to the rest of the world. by the way, i think one of the most famous view pin to us for is one set that to the persons to values one needs to observe how they treat and all difference. but the people the doing like do it feed them defines that kind of pressing you. ok. so i've many philosophers made similar observations gone the for example, if i recall it correctly, he said that the civilization of the nation and the society are only as great as they treat their animals pc. but pardon me, the joke is that this civilization, that is western europe, that this native centric group started protecting the rights of animals better than they do the rights of people. so it's not the problem. it's not that they don't understand they do. they simply believe that there are people whose rights need
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protecting more than everybody else. the mutual for an offense, joe accused, and some part is to protect the rights of russian citizens. bush's foreign policy is based on the principle of neutrality. wills. russia stick to the me shows the principle in reference to this measure. since russia will have to respond one way or another, or maybe the principle of reciprocity. or would we rather stick to on sets of values as you know, in cases like this, when it's not about the diplomatic missions and diplomatic staff, the regime of work are discontinuing their work. but when it's on a completely different scale, it's about how all of the country citizens are treated. we have to work out our response together with the agencies. and right now we're in talks with them, so i won't talk about it for now. not because i don't want to or have no opinion of my own, but because we need to give some time to the agencies to complete their work in this regard. and so we'll come to shock to some extent. well, as for the shock,
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you know, when they come up with the idea of 80 genders and force others to believe the same, isn't this shocking. and when people pass of mind blowing, number of laws concerning gender transition and home hormonal therapy for their own children, boys and girls, isn't this shocking? they're doing it to their own people. they made a call out of it. you see the fundamental controversy behind this? it's a dead end track and they're on it in every other respect too much. i honestly recommend everyone to find some time to read the g 20 declaration, even if you're not into international politics, even if you don't need it for work. it's an important and very curious document. it's long and with over 80 clauses. a large group of experts work to produce that over an entire year. and if you read it, you'll see things that will shock you. that was truly shocked when i did. the g. 20 consists among others of the usa, canada, a number of e u nations. and the g. 20 declaration has been signed by these nations. and the
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declaration says, among other things, the drugs are a threat to be combated. and this makes me want to ask the united states canada and these b u nations. so where is there a real position? is it real when they have their signatures under the don't g 20 declaration, the calls are combating drugs because that's what it does, like, where is it real? when these same countries go on and legalize drugs internally? and on top of that, run campaigns promoting an internationally to have others do the same. it's a clear contradiction of how can their position or actions towards russia be any better. you know, your was truly and deeply shocked when you know, i worked for a few years in the russian mission to the u. n. in new york city in manhattan. and we were working really long hours up to 19 hours every day in close contact with fellow citizens. and americans and manhattan is pretty small and it's a small island with a tiny area. so 2 months and you get to know absolutely everything there. all the
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spots, streets, and people. so when i visited manhattan, the last year, i was shocked, even though not by what they turned into during the pandemic years. and why they still can't handle all of a self in dirt and, and process trash everywhere. as bad as it is, they, they'll sort that out don't. i was shocked to see shops. so when legal has drugs almost on every corner in manhattan, and we're not talking about some city suburbs where a taxi's don't go and people are warned to stay away from. but the best of everything and america back in 2005, i was an all when i saw america, i was in passed by a lot of things. and i was truly convinced that it's the civilization that will save the world yet. now, when i see drug dealers offering drugs to people in cars waiting for the traffic light to change and the central new york one cause of all i want to ask is, wait, is this the same usa that is trying to teach in previous to the world how to live? well, they've got this nest right here in the center of their most progressive cities,
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the financial heart of the country. you remember how back in the early 2000 that the u. s. was all over russia for the license merchandise, services and lots of counterfeits stuff on our market. and what happens in the us now versus tv reporting recently, how old around 8 or 9 pm. people come out to put counter foot goods and rags, right on the sidewalks, all across manhattan is selling face of everything. you name it women's bags, perfume scarves and they don't have to hide it. well, and city folk have to walk around these piles on the ground before us. and in the lower part of manhattan, there are places where this stuff is on sale. 247, right? yeah, this is what's truly shocking when the same people say white and then turn around and call the same things black with it's noon psychological mechanism. it's easier to teach others how to me. when you have a little knowledge of yourself. you know, to be honest. i can't find any such example or seeing him look, i talked to people from different countries and i read the documents adopted by
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their government as i see doctrines developed in different continents. and then regional integration blocks from the i haven't seen such a dichotomy, such a bipolar disorder anywhere else. deluca. my next question is precisely about this . the customer reco grossi, who's north america, was a representative overs flexible. it's a national organization. the i. e, a set the, the use of depleted uranium. i'm a mission which the us is going to supply to cream, does not have, and you realize you called consequences. sure that it may not look like a threat when you're 16 in vienna. but you don't have to be a rocket science is to really is that it does pose assessing danger for you. now, this is what is called the propaganda look at what they did here for some media in general. and those who provoked these remarks. those who put these questions to mr . gross, he rightly said that he has had a v i a, a, b i a e, a deals with nuclear energy. that's what i am not a physicist. i mean, i went to school, i got an excellent grade in physics, but that was
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a long time ago. so when i heard the statements yesterday, i called the coach accomplish institute, which by the way, is also represented here at the forum. i talked to the expert office, they sent some notes and they sent me some notes. they really, i also read some of the information that we already had. but to the point is those in the west who are trying to justify the supply of depleted uranium ammunition, they all say, what's the difference show? i'm talking about the people in washington state department, the white house, and those in london like is they base their narrative on the premises. there's a sammy edition is like any other. there's no different space, a one. why not? because the uranium is depleted. so there's no components that makes it or a video access. yes, but it's misleading and they're not telling the whole story there with holding the key part is my opinion. if i know what it is that it's not just a coincidence, it's a deliberate attempt to hush it up and distort the narrative. the thing is depleted, uranium is a heavy metal. if we look at it in these terms, from
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a chemical standpoint, we'll see that it's a very different story, but they don't talk about that. they emphasize the nuclear component and put the question to the head of a nuclear security organization. yes. but what does that have to do with that? it's actually we're talking about a heavy metal and yeah, it's something that even children would understand. the, i'm probably thinking of russian like, you know, what, i doubt that their school is teach this information, even though when heavy metals accumulate in the environment, when they get into the human body into food, it leads to catastrophic consequences including cancer with mr. let me give an example to make it clear and mean you to containing heavy metals such as the depleted uranium that produces toxic era slides with you today mr. gross, he didn't talk about this because it's not his area of expertise. suppression. so he went with the question that they were given and only talked about one aspect of the features, but i think he understood the problem. like when the emulation penetrates the arm or the depleted uranium course that's up in kind of night and
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a depleted uranium liner and a power charge is even worse. what on people who deal with these things professionally like chemist cannot be unaware of this stuff. but i think that physicist also notice as well. but once again, sort of, he stayed within his mandate, wait for them to pick up the way i understand correctly, that who ever ends up owning this, terry? to the environment there will be contaminated the even if the laundry mass parts of the cream, there will be green damage to human health. to save for quote unquote, well site to emission of uranium the to $38.00 of us is only safe when it's coming from the outside. but when you're radium oxide, aerosol gets into the human body is very dangerous. it causes cancer, right. and yeah, fine. is there anybody who doesn't know that as well, and everybody knows that it's in the literature on the events and use a slab. yeah. it's in textbooks. yeah. well general reading not just about global or regional crises. it's trivial. if it's only complicated for you and me because it's not our field, that's people who work with chemistry and physics for
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a living. consider it common knowledge one night. so it's part of the propaganda sort of. they take a person. ready in a very high position, someone who has been on the news recently because of the situation with the nuclear power plants. and they ask him a question which is just outside of his direct responsibilities. and then it goes into the mainstream for you as exculpatory evidence for the west discussion, wisdom mo, disappear on day, took up lots of time. let's talk about the east, which we all know is consechi to an exception. a diverse to this is eastern economic form brought together protest tons, not only from the far as the from the middle east. this kind of diversity is targeting in the 48 countries in asia. the last time i checked, how is the work about diplomats on the eastern front and diplomacy in general, different from our contacts with the west? do you have to adjust to approach your methods of reaching agreements, uninsured, and that the sustainable in which you, regardless,
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each country has its own specifics? sometimes you can find countries on one continents that are united through common language, religion, or even history that are at the same time, very different through traditions formed over moder australia. so it's all very individual. and there's also the human factors. one person can find a quick solution to the problem at hand, where is other people in the same country or public agency can put the brakes on them that are creating a lot of red tape, which so i wouldn't generalize here. so there are no formulas that apply to an entire continent or even region. politically, there are differences of course, right? you probably have say that we're getting 2 dates and philosophy here. but in matters like this, you can't do without philosophy. when it all boils down to ideology, the western world ideology, the hinges on domination and imposing its world view on all the other countries. why? and this is what stands in the way of finding a solution to any problems. like you know, why? because diplomacy is about agreement, it's one side tries to understand what the other side is thinking,
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and together they start searching for common ground on bringing their positions closer to each other, reaching a compromised vision like however, it's only possible in a relationship between peoples. with that in a dialogue built on mutual respect, yellow, but this you see is not an option for the west for western europe. the us, not that since the entire nato central's system for it, for them, it's just unacceptable right now to you. and me that way of looking at things is almost in comprehensible just like we can't fully grasp the horrors of racism. and historically in today, because we didn't have it as a world view, i think we have never suffered the oppression to slavery. i see what we read about it in boston side and movies and documentaries. but thank god we've never been on either side of this dreadful matter. so it's just like that here we can't even fathom what it's like to have this sense of exceptionalism. how certain countries think themselves as above all others. why is it there on top of a mountain and all those below most cows, how to the image, something like that,
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they actually live with these ideas and these, can you understand what it's like? well, i think it's impossible for people like us. it was, was that nothing is right. it's impossible to understand. yes. but you can see isn't the way the east oriented international organizations of development. the way this truck ship is not so rigorous, i mean, yeah. so what the, as i'm a global south seas, things differently, it is survive colonial or semi colonial rule. and they have a much greater understanding of the western lab and we do their mindset and emotional outlook. because up until recently, the west used to exploit them. and the, the colonization, the process they went through was not purely political need for us. they did not sit on the un general assembly committees for that. they had to fight for their freedom with weapon they want. they know these people from the inside out as well. they know how the westerners left behind all their little hooks, impala techs in the economy in national security. they know all the tools and believers that the west uses to influence things from interference and domestic
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affairs, all the way to regime change. not just look at what happens on the african continent, discuss or in some asian countries, but in that sense, these nations give, have 1st hand experience of the western approach. not just from the textbook. and what's more, they've developed a very different philosophy, your relationship machine. nobody forces anything on anyone use. there's international law and that's the foundation. but no one could impose their own world view or mindset or anyone else. i'm right there. thank you for your time. thank you. thank you for watching the the, [000:00:00;00]
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the, after the end of world war 2, the national liberation movement in vietnam intensified dramatically. haven't driven away the japanese occupiers to vietnamese patriots by no means wanted the return of the former french colonizers. but brand did not want to lose the rich colony. i decided to beat the opposition by board. in december 1946, a full scale war broke out. the main victory audit organization led by o g man inflicted heavy losses on the french. the invaders were and raged according to western historians, up to 250000 lives of peaceful beat, and these were on their contents. the colonialist widely used the practice of mass rape of b. as in these women, as revenge on the gorilla. in 1947,
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the french destroyed the village of nights, rock murdering 170 women, and 157 children. however, terror did not help. in 1954, the vietnamese defeated the french army, and the decisive battle of again being full, almost 12000 french soldiers and officers, including the commander generals, a kind of 3. and his command staff were captured. that could visualization of a huge garrison at a demoralizing effect in europe. the french laughed vietnam, but they were replaced by even more violent and much stronger invaders. the american hard times were awaiting vietnam again the every spring and summer melting. optics no reveals a band of machinery, millions of rusty barrels,
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and the detritus left by human expansion into this most inaccessible of territories . yes, i used to move, so take off my bill if that is a simple someone from you. louis. at the post the beach on has an issue calling to ask for a clean optic travel to heis island home to the biggest opponent station on the front of joseph land capella. go. really asked me for our laws and that was the more you have to do should. so it means it's me when you feel when we see lots of money and i'm familiar with this, i'm gonna stay on the old stuff. awesome. i feel like a mess almost a little know. see mean membership. when you to i've got the i'm seeing the boys to the middle of please check your. i mean at that of the optic pioneers main objective was to explore and come kind of these harsh lands. they had no time to think about the waste management now and, and they could see, could remain for centuries. that's my of my choice of several who even needed somebody at the courses system was a multiple and yet about the deal with the official.
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the 1941 with the nazis help creation. ultram, national is the was dashes, the claim, the independent state of croatia. shortly on the seizing power. they build the scene of us concentration camp, a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during world war 2. use dashes used to come system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other non catholic minorities, and political opponents of the fascist regime. conditions in the santa of us come when the gods tortured to arise and the prisoners they send them the concentration camps. so most of them died 6 was incredible genocide the
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the white house slums, the us house because call for an impeachment inquiries. president biden, that's over a legit corruption involving his family's business dealings. also this all versus you and then boy accuses washington of lucky the designs and the war ukraine, because american businesses are making a killing through lucrative alms deals and and you moved to look for relationship has been born and modelled. that is not based on the western templates, a system that quotes 10 weeks, the leads, the chosen to be lee, and that's all humanity, all of the functioning and developing multiple worldly wisdom tooth and praises. the trend of more countries choosing this solving interest over the western model

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