the voltage was a part of the 21st century is widely believed to be about the rise of china, the continental, whose name comes from a greek warrant, meaning to rise. but despite being called the land of the rising sun, asia is no one lands inside its the biggest, the most dispersed of all continents, with many lands wanting to shine and grow. is it possible to rise unless rise was to discuss it? i'm now joined by doctor porn. try it, then leave us on the secretary general of the asian corporation dialogue. dr. franchise is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to say a few words about the a c d. now you organization the, a city was created some 20 years ago as with the goal of facilitating communication on the corporation across the whole of asia. and the task seems pretty straightforward, but the one we look down is, must be pretty challenging because asia is such

a diverse continent expands all the way from russia as far as where we are right now, down to the giants of india and china, across the islands nations of the pacific and indian ocean and all the way to the golf, those, this is in the mountains diversity. i wonder if there is anything in common among all those asian lands. of course, this is perhaps the beauty of asia, and perhaps this is the reason why we need to have this bottom this far. and it is like a platform for asian countries to discuss or deal with issues in asia, so that we can have our common understanding this, this uh uh, the reason why we need this platform you talk about, i'll come and, you know, mean a test or something yes, of course. so we have our common understanding. and of course the political will to work to as a and, and at the initiative of the kingdom of thailand. in 2002,

this forum was established. mm hm. now it was the established thanks to the talent initiative, but it's now headquarters in kuwait on yes, we are recording this conversation on the sidelines over 5, and they gave us the comic form. and i think for the 1st time in many years, we have a very large delegation from the arab countries, which is a very interesting and very unusual or before as the russians agent, than the mention. i wonder if the golf culture, the gulf mentality, the gulf and diplomatic style as anything particular to the work of your organization. in fact, i don't think it's only about uh of the countries, but also a regional or some regional. uh, uh, uh, block, seen in asia have already be, uh, fulfill the this uh, kind of, uh,

activities to make it, uh, realistic. because uh, if you asked me about uh, how about uh, the pro messy out up in tallahassee. i think, uh, the, the, uh, a pool, a peaceful coexistence, a peaceful solution. and in order to upgrade to get there. uh that is something uh supplement and compliment the the a cd which uh also a co principals of informal dialogue as well and terry sim and also chad commitments to cooperating with one of the so that is how we we kind of uh uh, worked fiesta and also cooperate with one another and thats speeding you mentioned this uh sort of strive to it was a peaceful solutions and i don't think there is

a single country in the world that would argue against peaceful solutions. but the way they go about it is very different. the last time a tech agent has 48 countries, not all of them, by the way, a members of your organization, but many and those cultures. those nations have sometimes longstanding references. i wonder how do they go practically about piece, making them more specifically about neutrality? because i think this concept of neutrality is changing recently, especially in the light of the well. 5 the trend in the west to take sides of pressure, other countries to take sides. well, you're right in the sense that actual political landscape or of political architecture has changed rapidly. not only in asia, but every corner of the world. you asked me how we have. uh, i would say uh so why is this bar um fox and if this uh, that's right. uh,

starting from uh, 18 members at the beginning. uh, there are 35 uh at the moment. so it is quite an achievement for us, probably 7, uh $18.00 to $35.00. and the other is uh about come monday. nobody latest. uh, meaning that we uh, work on something off the lease. uh, uh, control the fee. uh, for example, we have uh, 6 areas of cooperation, connectivity, education, science and technology. uh, culture and to assume that if the keys they are in the interest of all. so we, we can work with a such a areas of cooperation with no hesitation. all right. i heard you say it's one conference that dialogue and project based activity dr. corporation forward and

allows that corporation not to be politicized. can you speak more specifically about that? why is that? from what i understand, this is actually a technical framework that allows certain results to be a cheap. but it's true because 1st of all, we do not want to be politicize. and why don't you want to be politicized? because uh in fact, uh we cannot deny that politics out. always at the back of all of my uh that we, uh, every, uh, uh, photo. uh that the attendant uh more or less would uh, talk something about politics. but so if the uh, look back, got a uh, a cd. it's about on the political platform. so we can discuss some think of come with the new movie to have as i guess,

explain to you. that is why we would rather not talk about politics at all, because if one say something about refugees out this would say about boundaries and so on and so forth. so it wouldn't, it's going to be unless, and the, it's not, it's not going to be uh, productive for issue. that is why we need these, these for them. i think in the past politics and governance were sort of as related concepts. do i understand you correctly? that's the organization, primarily focuses on governance, how to deliver governance rather than engaging and politics. and we cannot do away with this confidence in any way with or internationally or domestically. but we're not going to discuss so much about that because we would rather leave it to the domestic requirements or

a national policy of each country kind of then to make it out loud at the international uh for them like the ac d. mm hm. now you're speaking very diplomatic man, i know you have a very long resume with the talent diplomatic service. in fact, you worked for a number of years with the association of south east asian nations. and this organization finds itself in the rather challenging position right now. and uh, you know, in the so called a sand spare it is under some pressure, this, a consensus gears approach it. they're finding, it's hard to realize. i just came back from there some of them they, i was talking openly about that because the great power arrival of race, pushing them in different directions. is that also the case with your organization and how have you been able to with sound that pressure of what one of the call you sure it's about consensus open sense of building because uh we, uh,

i happened to come from a country in, in southeast asia so i know a little bit about the consensus building consensus of building is one that would develop into confidence buildings. and that would be something to sustain all future as long as everyone has one voice. but that wise will definitely be heard. that is at that these, the crux of the issue oftentimes of so uh with that uh, i think this is another uh, perhaps photocopy of the beauty of the cd. you might have consensus and this is such um, a difficult concept to comprehend because many organizations, for example, the european union is also supposedly based on consensus because, you know, there are many different ways to go about it. and sometimes consensus, a consensus is confused for uniformity. uh,

what are some of the ways of actually ensuring authentic consensus? the one that will preserve the goodwill on the country and preserve the spirit of cooperation and wanting to engage and go forward together despite all the challenges that the nations may have. well, in fact, you'll speak with a very low couldn't see about consensus already. because even though i see it for one has been familiar with consensus even before uh, the cold war. but uh after that uh at the you, in, uh we oh uh, over the, or nearly all the resolutions have not completed the football with the in principle unless and then to uh on some exceptional cases. because members prefer a consensus. so this is something that requires political will at

the very beginning. so if you asked me whether we can differentiate between the authentic cause month, but then think i, i would say, if political will, is that why not? whether it's a will, there is a way, hm, interesting now, and other organizations with reach your work and it's a search is brakes. and if the recently made the decision to include 6 new members and like the a cd breaks is also a loosely structured consensus based group, which doesn't do mind uniformity from this number sense. i wonder why do you think such a form of blues for my concerns is based and would, will, based former is gaining um, seemingly gaining popularity in this day and age because many organizations are sort of moving towards it. uh, 2 things. one is uh, the need for multi electrolysis that we, uh, uh, pass code for,

especially uh, nowadays, but the multilateral assuming can be in any form with uh, in the, uh, in the national organization or not, like 6 or a pick up uh, the, the, uh, the out the is that, uh we have our mcafee so uh for example, for example. uh we are going to have a municipal real meeting in new york on the side line. so you in the this month, uh, followed by, uh, the 3rd somebody. uh, next month. the car. so uh these uh, the mechanic systems of the ac, the sofa office and solomons, and also the working groups under uh ac. the blueprint? 20. 21 to 2030. uh so when uh, all i in place that would be, uh, i'm not the way to promote cooperation. and of course,

a mutual understanding with mutual understanding requires also mutual knowledge. how well do you think your members know one another because i have to tell you that even here in russia, we do not understand all the variety that the organization agents are i to that the organization represents. because it is a loosely spoke to the organization or informally nature that would help uh, uh, create the most the off uh, friendship conducive to uh, payment that's, that's how i'm coming from. okay. and dr. ford tire, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will give back in just a few moments state and the

. ringback the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world illness, re washington, as for so the funder lion likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to help me living on that have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is will be the

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the spectrum is a far as west point you identity of us on the secretary general of the asians corporation dialogue now, and that's important. try. i know you are a former diplomat diplomat as user the e s 2 political or sensitive questions, but sir, you are in russia and russia currently finds itself in a while. and then for oxy were with the west of the effects, i think pretty much the the entire low, but i wonder what effects it has on specifically your organization or on asian. in fact, i would rather not talk about politics, but only a few was asked to mention of so far so good within the city, especially in case of uh, russia which has been

a member with us since 2005 especially. yeah. has been very active in this forum and of course uh with good uh, relationship with uh, office including history. um that prevails. so uh, i believe, uh they are doing fine. mm hm. now, richard has long been uh, a europe center, the nation both politically and culturally on its own people to asia is relatively recent in historic terms. i think it began in 2005, 20061 of the joint uh your organization. how would you describe russia from mine, asian vantage point? what is distinct about the russia as an asian nation rather than european nation? not only that, uh, russia has some, uh, parts of the country uh, in asia,

but also uh the policy. and also with this simply means not only of the gulf and, but also uh people, uh, this is uh, as far as i'm concerned. so uh, with that, i think this is the see if uh, the pets solve most of the other factor that we need to rush, you has to be to be with us. now i know that the worst asia originated in ancient greece and its 1st recorded use is attributed to had a notice who reportedly used it in reference to an a totally or the person that i'm part in contrast degrees. so a asia originated as something other than the west, and i think historically for many dickens, if not centuries, there was a distinct western effort to westernize asia. do you think agent needs to be westernized? well, as 630 general, i cannot speak for, for any country in particular,

but in the overall perspective. and as far as i'm concerned, i could say that the is aisha and can speak for a can. we, we can, we are free to do whatever is in the interests of asia. so with that, uh, i believe with the, with denies of not. and if it's a non issue for us now, geographically speaking, asia has both the highest and the lowest points on the surface of the earth. it also has the broadest variety of vegetation, any my life and human, a deputation, human culture, which could be a major treasure. but it also could be a major curse because you know, it creates conflict. they've create competition. i wonder what's townsend in the way of the asians using these diversity to the full extent to make sure that they benefit from their centers rather than still being divided by the old historical

governments as well. um aisha is part of the international community. so we are trying to be cooperative, for example, in the context of s, c. t's. however, many of us are still developing a least developed countries. so we need, uh, not only technology, but also uh, financial assistance from the national organizations from donor countries, from a f e social as a funds in order to help all of self and to be adaptive, especially in terms of climate change and to comply with the patterns agreement, you mentioned climate change and the asia is also subject to the world's wildest claim, matic, extremes,

the count. it's the confidence where natural calamity is felt most acutely and nature, as we know doesn't usually recognize national borders, nor does that give advanced warnings. have you seen any difference in how your member states approach natural disasters or global climate is especially in the aftermath of a corporate 19. so i just came back from the pope and i, i saw it that the places of american so that's of course, part of the type of change of what i'm trying to say is that we are trying to be responsible, really not only 80 particular country, but asia as a whole this is what i have with this a sofa and how to do that is one thing. but the conceptually we would rather be responsible and also uh uh for

the duty to cooperate, to cooperate uh with uh, what am i to not only visit neisha but also elsewhere to uh, address the common concerns the come on. uh, the uh, the global issues is okay, can take him back a little while to the corporate 910 sundown me for many, a international organizations. this was very challenging time and then that time of communication, there was a suffering at the most the international for a what was it like for you and your organization at that time? do you think you have contributed efficiently to that crisis? yes. because of when we adopted the declaration, we called upon the members to organize meetings of public health ministries in order to address infectious diseases,

including the depend they make and also uh go with 19 for one uh at the new york meeting. we are supposed to go, i'm not a declaration though, but a declaration which i to change the clause in the very same direction . so with that, i could say that we have our firm commitment to expressing infectious diseases. and also the basic uh, do you mean addressing them in for a chronic way or in a practical way? because i mean, and the midst of depend demik and they were all the, all the declarations were already on the table and signed. but when it came to practical implementation, that's where the major problem was. uh, in my view it has to be practical, of course, not only in a bureaucratic way, as you mentioned, not only about uh,

the meetings of the public health ministries or related agencies, but also with the stakeholders like the private sector, which would come to be very much not only in terms of financial assistance, but also uh, technology and know how and uh we, we have, uh, uh, our blueprint blueprint which, which uh, talk about uh, the alternative medicine, like, uh, uh, traditional medicine or hook up a medicine. uh, which would uh be something that people could have easily access to and not so costly for that. so uh if we talk about a guest and fad accessible uh, medicine perhaps this one that you have

a catch up on. interesting. and you mentioned traditional medicine and it just occurred to me that many members of the a, c, d would consider themselves as countries were. spirituality is still very much alive now. sure, there are lots of religious and spiritual diversity within asian. but from my experience with many of this country is they believe that humanity and despite all its differences is one family. i wonder if that spiritual dimension is helping your consensus building initiatives in any way or disability. because uh, take a rush, you know, for one, uh, do you have uh, what you call button. yeah. uh, treatment. and also how many? uh, uh, medicine as well. so uh, why not uh, happy part of, of the treatment for people to be accessible and thailand for one the

country where i came from has been promoting medical tourism. so its not only about uh, medical treatment, but all hospitalisation, but also uh 20 some that, that we can promote at the same time and it's very lucrative. so makes money and also promotes the culture, promotes the traditional way as right. so yeah, yeah. one other question i want to ask you is about food and water security because you spoke about him being one of the pillars of the ac. the framework is requires uh, not only a recognition of national interest, but somewhat expanded in the standing of uh, you know, what is what it is likes to be human or what a, what is life to belong to human family. uh, do you think you remember, stays a fully practice what they preach when it comes to not only minding that own silver,

an interest, but also making sure that they rise and let's rise or they survive and let other survive to it. is that the energy food and water secures the inter relationships and perhaps the kinds of boundary in nature of when we talk about funds boundary issues. uh it being step uh, not only one country may act alone, but it calls for international cooperation of i'm the international law i cannot tell, but recall the duty to cooperate. so if you asked me with a members serious about that, yes, they are not, not because it affect themselves or in that interest, but also they have that duty to cooperate in order to,

to resolve it all in one and at the same time. and indeed, at all levels. well, that's important. i ever have to leave it there. thank you very much for time. thank you. and thank you for watching hope to hear again on walter part of the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the

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