as of the definitely we now compared with many of the countries of purchased seeing the same drug and disagreement with johnson and johnson. and so that for guess has the clause a which could allow for prizes to be negotiated. but that has not yet happened. okay, no, then you'd like just to fit in before we go to break. 5 americans have thrown from 2 around to cut tar as part of a prisoner exchange between the united states under room and turn to their radians imprisoned by the us. reportedly already arrived in doha while 3 other release men have decided not to return to their run yet the prisoner swap agreement, which was broken by katara last month also includes the on freezing of some 6000000000 dollars over really in funds. the money was that 7 years ago locked in side 3 as part of us sanctions against tara.

alright, it is monday evening here in moscow that means a visit to the post office team to and peter, and guess i'll say discuss the big issues. it all gets going in the state, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome across stock where all things are considered 9 peter level, the web deep involvement in the brain complex suggest any negotiations are off the table. in fact,

only escalation is on the horizon. is nico spoiling for an upright conflict with russia? it certainly seems so the to discuss these issues and molar. i'm joined by my guess. martin j america. she's animal award winning, journalist, and commentator. and in budapest we have george send me. well, he's just, he's a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals are german cross up rules that affect that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start off with george and in budapest, in this is probably one of the strangest times in this conflict. because we, we have of the blankets of the world. and only in a better boss was with the blinking ended in care of and next year they found an extra $1000000000.00 in the couch, under the couch. cushions are remarkable, miraculously. and then we have this, you know, just kind of bald faced and introduction of, of very high um,

sophisticated weaponry. the focus right now is the destruction of the cartridge bridge. um uh the intelligence the, the cleanings are given is being stepped up there being a very open about it. the whole price is around star lincoln and you on musk was revealed. but then george, at the same time, it seems like even in the main stream, media is saying, well be when a color offensive isn't meeting expectations, not meeting its goals and all. but i mean, there seems to be a real mixture of messages going on out there. go head george. i hear anything. that's a very, very good point. it is a mixture of messages. but the west has really played a very dangerous game here. um, they've made a calculation that they can escalate and escalate an escalade. cross one red line offer another because as a big a, russia is too afraid to retaliate against us if they are daddy, that gives us an article 5 goes into effect one for all,

for one we have will will. and so they doing things now that a few months ago, they had said they're not going to do that. it would be too dangerous. so now the u . k. and france of both and the new grain does a long range cruise midsize and then we have this pros, mississauga die for storm shadow provided by the u. k. on so basketball that you can use making no attempt to conceal this role in this so that you can't knew exactly how these missiles would be used. and now we have the, by the station saying that they go to send these a, d, c. and most, most sized to your brain having said like a month ago, no, no, no, we can't do that's too dangerous to escalate the door. but they gotta be the they're going to send them. and when blinking with us then uh, in an interview the other day. well, um, this will be an attack on russian soil. how do you feel about that as a well, we don't really have any say in the math or, you know, it's a, it's a, it's

a you brain issue. so because this is the complete nonsense, because we know that the united states, as i said, united states is providing tactical intelligence through your brain. so we're in a position now that's um your brain is being stolen. hey, why don't you just people talking about russian land. i mean, just, you know, keep that targeting uh, russian. the mainland. um, i do braces by and, you know, we have, we've got a blank check up. this is a very dangerous position because you still ultimately have to look at and say, well, how long is roughly going to put up with this because of the, your discount, you're going to be great. i'll just set this up in your hands while the you gay the us from say yeah, go right ahead of the but i think the russian mainland so i think it's a good way to getting into an ever more dangerous situation. yeah. and learn and it also it kind of to tears the way that the solve this has anything to do with you. currently it doesn't look at it, it's kind of offensive,

is utterly failed. it's casualty rates are art screaming extremely high, but it, and as we talked about last week, we went blank and was in, in, in care of we didn't even talk about the membership able to get it. it's almost kind of incidental right now. and so to george's point here, here, there is a great power that's being a tapped out to a proxy. and it is an untenable situation. i, i have to imagine that um, there will be a concerted effort now to destroy airports, hopefully, your major transportation conduits, which haven't been after what 2021 months now bill have that and that, of course, come cosby of the good waiter collapse of the grading economy, so it's, it's a, if there are no good options here the way the west continues to escalate martin, you know, their own. um and uh, i think the judges right the, the escalation game is being played very slowly,

but very shortly kick by click on the rushing, the latest, the type of the storm shudders. this is, is a good example, but i think it's also a good example of how desperately clients are getting. because this i've always all get from a job as part of it is very much it media will, which for a long time, the west long as down with it some but it's fake news operation based in calf. um, but i think that's coming to an end. now, a nice thing to the credit is a really realizing that look, we need at least 6 months to rebuild. you know, i'm, what are we doing not 6 months? we called you absolutely nothing. we have to do something, we have to disrupt the media, we have to create an illusion that we're still out there. we're still punching about on weights. and so the long range missiles thing i think is only effective as you can do it every 2 or 3 days or once a week. you know, we haven't seen any repeats of, i'm a new types on the crime in a cold war. i mean, these chips are sitting ducks, you know, to use the metaphor. it was not a concert, it's

a great minute treat victory. but i think the economy is the americans are beginning to, to wake up and realize that they need to buy time. and the way to do that possibly is with these tactical strikes, how effective that will be. i'm, i'm not sure, but i'm not sure i agree with george. that will, was it, you, i'm at the point that we are leading up to a full out escalation of from publication between will this what with, with will, with russia and the west. what i think is a tactic behind this is to trick the russians into negotiating some sort of formal or informal sci fi and what will happen during that period. and that would not only be a tactical defeat, i'd be a strategic defeat on the part of the russians. george jump in. i agree with you. i think that, um, if russia did that, i think rush, it would be seen uh to have lost. it would have but essentially unsettled with something less than they had a beginning in the end of february,

the 24th of 2022. so that would indeed be a degree for sure. but again, it's quite possible that this is the way they are calculating in nature when that well, will trick the russians into a greens of this. and that, of course we're going to use the next few years to have on your brain for more and more money in those. i mean, you know, one of the issue here, i mean what, what, what exactly is the west game of the west is bobus. they have, it's due to week of debilitating russia drain. it of mine bought the drain to restore. so that's obviously they, you know, lloyd austin and others have said that that's one of the game. but there's also a lot of money involved. i mean, we, you know, we met about a racy on the all the, the feet of the big military contractors. i mean that we're making a bundle of money. and now we have, you know, all the of those sequoia capital and all the rest of it. so mckenzie, and they're all getting involved in the small business,

so we have to rebuild ukraine. so there's a lot of money in there for, you know, they, they have every intention in the interest in maintaining it, and you really aging russia. so there's no incentive on the part of the west to bring this to any kind of conclusion. leasing the longer it goes on, the more it's going to hurt russia, the marketing you want to respond to that. go ahead. yeah. from the west point of view that's, that's clear who is a rocket. and there is, as i written recently, one of my opinion pieces, there was no grace. a racket, new credit was from the west perspective. it will make sense to dollars or less. and everyone's laughing to the bank on the perspective of the designs together, a new crane, i think a must be starting to panic because you must be start to realize that this coming going forever. you know, he has to keep up appearances. he has to find a young man somehow if you have to send,

send his it's as teams of soldiers going into balls and a supermarket and drawing a young man out by the, by the hell, you know, he's got a lot of problems. i'm so to recommend. these are he's in route to washington to be of celebrated in the white house still again, and then a to the round of fundraising, the crowd, the show for a fund crowd funding george the they didn't. it is all about the money because once the money dries up, then there's no logic to this whatsoever. no, that's right, but the money isn't going to dry out. that goes to the united states is always binding money full. he's of inches. i mean, o l a as in a cool 1000000000, and they gotta keep doing that. so that's why what we've got the ac and this massage. and i think it's a more and we just keep, keep it's coming because it is as they say they want is get to go on with this war. and there is just infinite amount of money for your brain,

no money for anything else. so the pets in particular, nothing for anything or anyone else, but for your brain, they're going to give it because ultimately they both think like mitch mcconnell and the, and the rest of the sentence is, which is, hey, this is the best money we can have them is what is a wonderful investment, you know, is much better than compared to the saved saved doing this over and of course of 20 years and have damage that and after 20 months, look at the, the return on investment up to really amazing when it comes to somebody, your brain was, you know, that's like going to bank and so, you know, and then, and winning all of a slot machines that once. yeah, yeah, no, that's right. then i mean they, they, they spend 2 trillion on ask and it's not, but a lot of people got very rich. i mean, again, americans didn't, but a lot of people doing. so the, again, aiming with your brain, a lot of people are getting very rich and, and they want to go on getting rich is just, unfortunately, the consequence of this is that your brain is,

and the russians are dying. they know they're not the, they're not getting rich, but some americans and that's, that's a cash cow. and then honestly have no intention of stopping my getsco. speaking of, of the kind of cows i thought it was quite interesting that as a landscape said, well, we might tumble actions, but i need 5000000000 for it. okay. i mean, pretty good. good to go. go ahead martin. that does room, but i mean, he's really bracing. oh, i know, but you know, it's all about tomorrow between the a doctors a but me 5 bill maybe we'll have maybe a you is a, is a user beginning to be a little bit nervous when he looks at his friend the bottom who just this week you know, the old story was bon bonded about on the fringes of web and a few 90 jib medical, gentler, such as myself of bite and taking bribes when he was a vice president and ukraine. this is on mainstream. now we don't ignore this anymore. the s b are investigating it and find spin and paste on the basis of it. you know? so if you've got it,

i think is as landscape must be looking at what's going on in america. wondering how long can this cash co keep go? it, you know, we go months or we don't use this report so, so this only got a cool whiskey in, you know, right. and it was the who was, you know, um the, the ring leader, the king pam, the opinion that who created a zaleski out or nothing from being a so maybe keep the phone plane tickets out on television. you know, he's now that supposedly, um, you know, the interested and this is part of things i've noticed, reaction by zalinski. i think he realizes the sooner or later all the americans on the west are gonna turn the skies on the landscape. and they always, they always do. it's a matter of time gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short. and after that short break, we'll continue. and especially when you're going to stay with archie,

the this is a i, a program, same wasn't, don't need to create, feel us and ruthless soldiers, but also to control the minds of thousands of unsuspecting people with narcotics. we should talk to, we need to get a feeling of morning leadership almost as the show start when you put the instruction here that you are for land. the waiting, so a lot of channels to come for pamela fashion, post on the pay and the name of the new model and the moon on the printer. no, they chased to is or wireless is under the impression that the on the deal is extra . but the one is most of them

immune is placed with something else. let's say a m k ultra project involving the use of special drugs for military and political purposes. first on my done and then in the ukrainian army, i've shifted towards a large scale technical trials that ongoing to stop anytime soon. the welcome back. across stuff were all things are considered. i'm peter bell. this is a home addition remind you, we're discussing some real needs, the a go back to georgia in budapest, that's all. while george nato is having its largest military exercises since the end of the cold war. and i have talked to a former military personnel in the american military,

and they say these exercises are just really propaganda and hype and all of that. but it is also sending a message i'm, it's, it's really interesting that last thing that martin had to say, i know you and i all 3 is that we, we covered russia, russia, russia, gate, uh, exhaustively. but it's, it's really quite interesting. georgia, it's really ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. it's always been that way. yes. let's try the, let's think about the united states and one, but should not forget, is this. um, yeah. when they get all they left afghanistan, you know, they, they left us out of vietnam. but that was on the 20 is the main cause i'm just going to go away. you know, tomorrow the day off the tomorrow, next year, the year are they gonna stick around? and during those 20 years they can do an oil for a lot of damage. i mean, we think of what, what they did in the other 20 years. i mean, so it and it is 75, but the since the early 1950 is same and i've got a spot and yeah,

they left on the binding but they will, they have for 20 years, spend 2 trillion dollars like a wheel for what purpose? iraq, the selling iraq, this is again 20 years since the invasion still in there. right? so in not welcome to interact with the level welcome. it's never anything creative that they achieve in any of these places. and so that's why i think it some, uh, some of you know, you don't have the thing that the united states will be abandoned in ukraine any time in the future. because they think that using ukraine will diminish rush or the what i going to do is slowly but surely grind, rushing down and stop it from being a great power. they said, i think that they get things targets inside russia is part of that strap. it is a what, what kind of a great power i you are allowing ukraine, this little country to hit your issue in moscow. but they hit you in st. petersburg, and you know,

you can't do anything about it because your hands are type. because ultimately, you know, your problems are in nato and your to afraid to attack nature because your, you know, of afraid of provoking us. and i think the americans are gonna keep doing lives, and that's why i think it, you know, at some point in russia we'll have to address the issue. i mean, generally allow is to go on the origins of allowing this to go on a far greater than actually attacking uh, you know, that nature just a backup. george's going to public opinion here will demand it absolutely will demanded as much as they a political calculation. pardon me, that was really interesting. um, zalinski gave an interview with the economist and basically implied that if uh, its ukraine's western backers back away. oh, there will be millions of ukrainians that will not take well to that in europe, implying, you know, possible terrorist acts. i mean, again, it's really, really quite a blatant of this kind of

a lopsided relationship that the ukraine has with united states and with nature nature, well, you'll have to think so. i mean, i think this, the, the, the american will to keep the record going in your crime. and the american relationship is a lensky, and that's why i would take to task joe, just point, i don't think americans will go on forever with the landscape. and they will try that my very best to keep the war i keep going on forever in ukraine. you made a reference to of kind of style of iraq when i was enough to understand. so i have some experience on the ground that i'm but let's not forget that i've done this time was boots on the ground. you know, i did speak when i was there in 2008. i think obama had about a 150000 soldiers that someone will correct me and comments probably. um, but yeah, we don't have the same situation. the pain and the missing component of the soldiers, man, you know, and that can't go on forever. you know, i'm so let's get started real trouble finding man,

finding boots on the ground. and we will do, i mean, you still have to panic for me the, the, the reference in the columbus interview was it was a panic. you ration was one of the fast of motors, which is him personally being removed, not the water. i kid, i'm sliding down. but to take tickets, just like up to just point to get, you know, i think something's got to give before um the relationship collapses. and i think that seem right, very i. so is the military stand off at the moment? you know, russia is probably going to kind of go, russia is not running a sleeves up a risk and high numbers of casualties. it just doesn't need to, you know, i mean, what's the media? it's literally everywhere and slowly beginning sort of knowledge that nato has made some miscalculations from the very beginning. and one of the biggest miscalculations they made it made was not being well. i finally got organized in terms of having a strategy from the beginning. having an idea about numbers every night is about what kind of was it was just so difficult to pick of date was just such

a mess. a lot mess allowed russia the time to build that front line up 700 age on the coming from which is 45 live emissions. now really the bill, real present for ukraine, the company's right to it. so if you know it can result excuse took into the minutes, advisors needs to have debates or is that what it, what can we do? you know, we have to be active. we have to be seen in the world's media to be doing something . and that's why i think the strong shudders issue is part of it is to keep the momentum going, but how long can rush it really pull it up without you know, i mean, the miller channel is, or we're talking about if russia went over the line, if it said there's troops into particular pocket of you crying. where would it like you to be? often? i'm in the middle shallow. that's but often the middle journalist points, it's quite desa. some weather's rockets came from, you know, and is the breaking point is what does russia say no more of this b s. we're going to go over the line. i'm going to sell these people out and stop. this is, i think it's good to be,

to be fair and even both of you have valid points here and go back to georgia. i mean, i'm not a military expert either, but logic would dictate, let this, the ukrainian counter offensive, completely sputter out, you know, if there's a lot of completely off that and then the rest of it takes the initiative. i'm out, i've predicted last winter, they would do it. maybe they will do it this winter a be so by the it, it obviously in this is a seat into the main stream. um this the offensive as exhausted itself date and they just don't have their own that continue forward. logic would dictate taking advantage of that george. well, i agree, um, but i, you know, as i say that when i, i saw that they would do it last winter. they didn't do it now. maybe another this went to, they've given the indication of the so that, that's so that's so you know, put in makes these the statements of zone, but he's given no indication that anything is going to change. maybe. well,

that doesn't mean that he's going to review his hand at this stage, but again, it goes back to the question, i mean, ukraine, kind of windows, what we know, you bring kind of a window swap. but the nato strategy is to make sure the rupture doesn't when this was, they was like the latest strategies. let's just basically keep this will going. i mean, that's basically just keep draining a rock show. now cause, you know, the price of that is that you're also draining your brain, but that as long as the rush is getting drain, then who knows what might happen in russia and they figuring out, well, maybe they'll be a and i get in all the goals and i'll be some, the, some kind of a or public opinion will turn again like the 17 big the, it's kind of might not exact in the ninety's every day is something that will give, that's the live the strategy they play. and that's why i think that russia is why have you, they should wrap this up. i mean, the time was giving advice so, but you know, obviously i don't know the all the logistics they have,

they should at the end, essentially amount of serious affinity this question. if i'm going to, i'm going to tear a page from george. i'm gonna show you some of george's words right back in which i actually agree with is that one of the reasons why they have and thrusted more robustly into ukraine is because they always have to keep the name, the possibility of going to an all outcome or with nature ok and that's another dilemma that they have. but that wasn't my point. george mike brought that up over a year ago. mark me after that. yeah, i mean, you know, it's, it's, it's so funny is that when you look at the bigger picture, and you say, well, we have to follow the triangle, which was a huge file to mo, both a zone which should have kept on both sides content. you know, there was not a nature, it's right, the nature of front line. but now if we go, if the escalates, um we, we, we, and the russians actually do have some sort of operation. they could come to the publish mode. so there be no, no buffers. and a to know distance,

actual between nature and russia, which i'm sort of defeats the whole object. so yeah, we have a cause, but there's a lot of nato on russia's boss fights. we're almost out of time if i want to talk about this strange person named ashton carrillo, this person's name. i'm going to try to avoid the pronouns here. so i have to say, oh, okay. oh, okay, now you gotta, yeah, yeah. you know, because it's a real oddity. this conflict is great and a lot of the oddity and this is probably the peak oddity. um, the last 2 video of this, i'm referring to this person, the mirror can citizen minutes been hired to do p r propaganda know spokesperson for the price. and, and i saw these videos i, i think every time i think it's a name, it's a joke. and they keep telling us, it's not we want to take this one which one. well, i think it's

a very interesting that there is, um, a person obviously very dis, the serious mental health issues. a very serious issue with identity who this person is. it's entirely fitting to this is the process or should be this photos with the board your brain because your brain is, i think, a very sick country with a serious identity issues. i think it's a, it's a much waiting happen. the market. yeah. because i mean, i have to assume, but directly indirectly, this is funded by the us government aspect. well, i, some, i talked about miscalculation before. you know, it, the biggest belief, the number of poor decisions that i made by the pentagon. all they have in a bind administration, this just seems to be another one, the less of a freak show. less just will out this transgender kind of a monster. and this as soon as a certain amount of messages from your brain to the well, you know, hey, we were, it was somebody who very liberal. we have chose turns into people. i mean,

give some public service jobs, you know, spokesperson. but even also suppose person spokeswoman spokes ma'am, spokes thing, i don't know where i'm going here. even i suppose to send in a c. p is already good. unless that's my problem. i don't know a problem if your transgender level problem, what race you uh, you know what you really believe. so when you go and can animals and let somebody else in a while, i have a problem with is if you any good, all your message and this person is a mess. so that's why i'm a little distracted by it. but you know, this person, you know, martin, george is if they are russian polk spokes person talk like that. it would then turn that would blow up. ok, but this, which is, you know, take, taking passively. it's really quite remarkable. and you have the means, the lens, the interview with the economy as you know, you know, you, you don't know what we're capable of. and in the gentleman, unfortunately, we've run out of time on a think, my guess in budapest, in america, so north like our viewers were watching us here in our dc and next time,

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