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the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered 9 peter level, the web deep involvement in the brain complex suggest any negotiations are off the table. in fact, only escalation is on the horizon. is nato spoiling for an upright conflict with russia? it certainly seems so the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j america. she's in the ward winning journalist and commentator. and in

budapest we have george sent me while he is a pod cast. read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentleman cross up rules that affect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start off with george and in budapest, in this is probably one of the strangest times in this conflict because we, we have of the blankets of the world. emily and a bit above was with blinking and in care of next year they found an extra $1000000000.00 and the couch under the couch, cushions are really michael miraculously. and then we have this, you know, this kind of bald faced and introduction of, of very high um, sophisticated weaponry. the focus right now is the destruction of the cartridge bridge. um uh, the intelligence that the cleanings are given is being stepped up there being a very open about it. the whole price is around star lankin and you on must was revealed. but then george, is that the same time it seems like keep it in the main stream media is saying, well we, we color offensive isn't meeting expectation is not meeting it's goals and all,

but i mean, there seems to be a real mixture of messages going on out there, go ahead, george. i hear anything that's a very, very good point. it is a mixture of messages. but the west is where they play a very dangerous game here. um they've made a calculation that they can escalate an escalated escalade. cross one red line offer another because as a big a, russia is too afraid to retaliate against us if they were daddy, that gives us an article 5 goes into effect one for all, for one way of will. so they doing things now that a few months ago, they had said they're not going to do that. it'd be too dangerous. so now the u. k . and france of both and the new grain does a long range crews mess size and then we have this bruised missed all the types of storm shadow provided by the u. k. on so basketball,

um the u. k is making no attempt to conceal its roland. this so that you can't knew exactly how these midsize would be used. and now we have the by the station saying that they go to send these a d, c, and most most files to your brain. having said like a month like, oh no, no, no, we can't do that's too dangerous to escalate the or they going to be the going to send them. and when blinking was lost in the, in an interview the other day. well, this will be an attack on russian soil. how do you feel about that? is it? well, we don't really have any say in the math, but you know, it's a, it's a, it's a brain issue. so, but this is the nonsense because we know that the lights it, as i said, united states is providing tactical intelligence through your brain. so we're in a position now that's um your brain is being stolen. hey, why don't you just people talking about russian land. i mean, just, you know,

keep that targeting uh, russian, the mainland, under branches, by and, you know, we've, we've got a blank check up. this is a very dangerous position because you still ultimately have to look at and say, well, how long as we're actually going to put up with this because of the, your discount, you're going to be great. i'll just set this up in your hands while the you gay the us from say yeah, go right ahead of the but i think the russian mainland so i think it's a good way to getting into an ever more dangerous situation. yeah. and learn, and it also it kind of to tears away. the facade this has anything to do with you. crazy. it does look like it's, it's, it's kind of offensive, is utterly failed. it's casualty rates are, are exclaiming, extremely high. but it, and as we talked about last week, we, you know, when blinking was in, in, in can, we didn't even talk about the membership, able to get it. it's almost kind of incidental right now. and so to george's point here, here, there is a great power that's being attacked out to a proxy. and it is an untenable situation. i, i have to imagine that, um,

it will be a concerted effort now to destroy airports, hopefully, your major transportation conduits, which haven't been after what 2021 months now bill have that and that, of course, come cosby of the good way to collapse of the grading economy, so it's, it's a, is there no good options here the way the west continues to escalate martin, you know, their own. um and uh, i think the joe just roy the, the escalation game is being played very slowly, but very shortly. kick by click on the russian, the latest the type of the storm shudders. this is, is a good example, but i think it's also a good example of how desperately claimants are getting. because this, i've always, i'll get from a job this point of view. this is why much of media will which for a long time, the west uh wow. as to how would it some but it's fake news operation based in kiff . um, but i think that's coming to an end. now. i think the,

the things are really realizing that, look, we need at least 6 months to rebuild. you know, what are we doing? not 6 months, we come to us with enough x. we have to do something. we have to disrupt the media . we have to create an illusion that we're still out there. we're still punching about our weights. and so the long range missiles thing i think is only effective as you can do it every 2 or 3 days or once a week. you know, we haven't seen any repeats of i'm a new types on the climbing a port. well, i mean these chips are sitting ducks, you know, to use the metaphor. it was not a concert, it's a great minute treat victory, but i think the ukrainians, the americans are beginning to, to wake up and realize that they need to buy time. and the way to do that possibly is with these tactical strikes, how effective that will be. i'm, i'm not sure, but i'm not sure i agree with george. that will, was it, you, i'm at the point that we are leading up to a full out escalation up front on publication between will this with will,

with russia and the west. what i think is a tactic behind this is to trick the russians into negotiating some sort of formal or informal sci fi and what will happen during that period. and that would not only be a tactical defeat, i'd be a strategic defeat on the part of the russians. george jump in. i agree with you. i think that, um, if russia did that, i think russia would be seen uh to have lost it with a but essentially settled for something less then they had a beginning uh, a in a, in uh, february the 24th of 2022. so that would indeed be uh the brochure, but again, um, it's quite possible that this is the way they are calculating uh, in nature when that well, we'll check the russians into agreeing. so this amount, of course we're going to use the next few years to on the your brain for more and

more money in this. i mean, you know, one of the issue here, i mean what, what, what exactly is the west game of the west is bobus they have. it's due to week of debilitating, russia drain it of the mind about the drain to restore. so that's obviously they have a lawyer to us than others upset, but that's one of the game. but there's also a lot of money involved. i mean, we in a winner by racy on the all the, the feet of the big mimicry contractors. i mean that we're making a bundle of money and now we have, you know, all the of those sequoia capital and all the rest of it. so mckenzie. and they're all getting involved in this phone. business of we're going to rebuild ukraine. so there's a lot of money in there for, you know, they, they have every intense a interest in maintaining it, and you don't really aging russia. so there's no incentive on the part of the west to bring this to any kind of conclusion. leasing the longer it goes on, the more it's going to hurt russia. martin,

you want to respond to that. go ahead. yes. on the west point of view, that stuff's clear who is a rocket. and there is, as i have written recently, and one of my opinion pieces, there was no grace, a racket, new credit was from the west perspective. it will make sense, the dollars or less, and everyone's laughing to the bank on the perspective of the designs. together, a new crane, i think a must be starting to panic because you must be start to realize that this coming going forever. you know, he has to keep up appearances. he has to find a young man somehow. if you have to send, send his id is teams as the oldest going into balls and a supermarket, some drug, a young man out by the, by the hell, you know, he's got a lot of problems. i'm so to recommend. these are, he's in route to washington to be of celebrated in the white house still again. and then up to the round of fundraising, the crowd a show for a fund of crowd funding. george the they didn't,

it is all about the money because once the money dries up, then there's no logic to this whatsoever. no, that's right. but the money isn't going to dry out that goes to the united states as always, finding money for these ventures. i mean, you know, and really isn't. oh, uh, cool 1000000000. and they gotta keep doing this. so that's why what we've got the ac and this massage, and i think it's a more and we just keep, keep it's coming because as a say they want is get to go on with this war. and there is just in for the amount of money for your brain, no money for anything else. so then the pets and the nothing for anything or anyone else. but for your brain they're going to give it that goes alternately. they both think like mitch mcconnell and the, and the rest of the senate says, which is the, hey, this is the best money we can have. i mean, this is a wonderful investment. you know, it's much better the compared to the same. think doing this over the course of 20

years and have them as an after 20 months. look at the the return on investment. not seriously amazing. when it comes to somebody, your brain was, you know, that's like going to bank. and so, you know, and then and winning all the slot machines that once. yeah, yeah, no, that's right. then i mean they, they, they spend 2 trillion, i've got a snow, but a lot of people got very rich. i mean, again, americans didn't, but a lot of people doing so the get any with your brain. a lot of people are getting very rich and, and they want to go on getting rich is just, unfortunately, the consequence of this is that your brain is and the russians are dying. they know they're not the, they're not getting rich but that some americans and that's, that's a cash cow. and then honestly have no intention of stopping my gas go 18 of, of the cash codes. i thought it was quite interesting that as a landscape said, well, we might have elections, but i need 5000000000 for it. okay. i mean, pretty good to go ahead martin that just rubrics. i mean, he's really bracing. oh,

i'm, i'm, you know, it's all about democracy. and that's, that's obviously, but give me 5 bill. maybe we'll have maybe ahead of you is a, is a little so be going to be a little bit nervous when he looks at his friend the bottom who just this week. you know, the old story, which has been bonded about on the fringes of the web and a few, not a geometrical gentler, such as myself of bite and taking bribes when he was a vice president and ukraine. this is on mainstream. now we can't ignore this anymore. the s b are investigating it, binds bitten and paste on the basis of it. you know, so you've got to do things as lensky must be looking at what's going on in america . wondering how long can this cash co keep go? it, you know, we go month so big or is this report so, so this only got a cold whiskey and you know, it was the who was in the ring leader of the king pan, the opinion that who created a zaleski or nothing from being

a the american bassoon playing the good side on television. you know, he's now up supposedly, you know, the interested and this is part of things i've noticed, reaction by zalinski. i think he realizes the sooner or later all the americans on the west of the town. this guy is on the landscape and they always, they always do. it's a matter of time gentlemen. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short after that short break, we'll continue. and especially when you're going to stay with our team, the

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of working together and also the importance of taking care of your corner of the ocean. the welcome ex. across stuff were all things are considered. i'm peter bell. this is a home addition remind you, we're discussing some real needs the a go back to georgia in budapest. that's all. while george nature always having its largest military exercises since the end of the cold war. and i have talked to a former military personnel in the american military. and they say these exercises are just really propaganda and hype and all of that. but it is also sending a message. um it's, it's really interesting that last thing that martin had to say, i know you and i all 3 is that we, we, we covered russia, rock, russia,

gate the exhaustively. but it's, it's really quite interesting. georgia, it's really ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. it's always been that way. yes. uh, that's right. so the, the thing about the united states and when go should not forget is that, um, but yeah, when they get all they left afghanistan, you know, they, they left the south vietnam, but that was on the 20 is the main cause i'm just going to go away, you know, tomorrow the day off the tomorrow, next year, the year are they going to stick around? and during those 20 years they can do an awful lot of damage. i mean, we think of what, what they did in vietnam for over 20 years. i mean, so you know, they, it, and it is 75, but they were there since the 1950s. so when i've got a spelling. yeah, they left on the binding, but they will, they have for 20 years, spend 2 trillion dollars like a wheel for what purpose? iraq, the selling iraq. this is the 20 is since the invasion still in the right. so in not welcome to interact with the level welcome,

it's never anything creative that they achieve in any of these places. so that's why i think it some, some of you know, you don't have to think that the united states will be a band and the ukraine anytime in the future. because they think that using ukraine will diminish rush or the what i going to do is slowly but surely grind, rushing down and stop it from being a great power. they said, i think, i think he thinks targets inside russia is part of that strap. it is a what, what kind of a great power i you, you're allowing ukraine, this little country to hit you. it's you in moscow, but they hit you in st. petersburg and you know, you can't do anything about it because your hands are type. because ultimately, you know, your problems are in nato and your to afraid to attack nato because your, you know, of afraid of provoking us. and i think the americans are gonna keep doing this. and

that's why i think it, you know, at some point in russia, we'll have to address the issue. i mean, then they allow us to go on the origins of allowing this to go on a far greater than actually attacking uh, you know, that nature just a backup. george's going to public opinion here will demand, it absolutely will demand. and it is not just a, a political calculation, pardon me, you know, it's totally into, i'm zalinski, gave an interview with the economist and basically imply that if it's ukraine's western backers back away, oh, there will be millions of ukrainians that will not take well to that in europe, implying, you know, possible terrorist acts. i mean, again, it's really, really quite blatant. um, uh, this kind of lopsided relationship that the ukraine has with the united states and with nature nature, well, it's 2 things. i mean, i think this through the, the, the american will to keep the record going in your crime. and the american

relationship is a lensky, and that's why i would take to task. i'm just bored. i don't think the americans will go on forever with us lensky. and they will try that my very best to keep the war racket going on forever in ukraine. you made a reference to of kind of style of iraq when i was in afghanistan. so i have some experience on the ground that i'm but let's not forget that i've done this time was boots on the ground. you know, i did speak when i was there in 2008. i think obama had about a 150000 soldiers that someone will correct me and comments probably. um, but yeah, we don't have the same situation. the pain and the missing component of the soul, just man, you know, and that. com go on forever. you know, i'm so let's get started real trouble finding man, finding boots on the ground. and we will do, i mean, he started to panic for me the, the, the reference in the columbus interview was it was a panic. a ration was one of the fast of motors, which is him personally, being removed, not the war. i kid, i'm slowing down,

but to take tickets just like help just point again. you know, i think something's got to give before the relationship collapses. and i think that seem right, very i so is the military stand off at the moment? you know, russia is playing very kind of game. russia is not running, it slips up a risk and high numbers of casualties. it just doesn't need to, you know, mean um, western media. it's literally everywhere and slowly beginning sort of knowledge that nato has made some miscalculations from the very beginning. and one of the biggest miscalculations they made it made was not being more refined, well organized in terms of having a strategy from the beginning. having an idea about numbers every night is about what kind of was it was just so basically the pick of date was just such a mess. a lot mess allowed russia the time to build that front line. that's 70800 kilometers on which is 45 line. and this is now really the bill. real present for you, crane and companies right. it. so it, you know,

it moves zalinski is talking to, is administered advisors and you still have to mates or is that what it, what can we do? you know, we have to be active. we have to be seen in the world's media to be doing something, and that's why i think this don't show this issue as part of it is to keep the momentum going. but how wrong can rush it really pull it up without, you know, i mean, the middle channel is what we're talking about. if russia went over the line, if it said his troops into a particular pocket of the crying, where would it likely to be? often, i'm not a middle channel that's but often the middle journalist points, it's quite desa. some weather's rockets came from, you know, and is the breaking point is, does russia say no more of this b s? we're going to go over the line. i'm going to send these people out and stop this is i think, to be, to be fair and even both of you have valid points here and go back to georgia. i mean, i'm, i'm not a military expert either, but logic would dictate the, let this, the ukrainian counter offensive, completely sputter out, you know, but there's a lot of completely all that. and then the rest of it takes the initiative. i've

predicted last winter, they would do it, maybe they will do it this winter a me so by the it, it obviously in this isn't sleep seats into the main stream. um, definitely offensive as exhausted itself 8 and they just don't have their own state continue forward. logic would dictate, taking advantage of that george? well, i agree um, but i, you know, as i say that when i, i saw that they would do it last winter. they didn't do it now maybe another, this went to, they've given the indication of the slab. so that said, you know, put in makes these the statements of zone, but he's given no indication that anything is going to change. maybe. well, that doesn't mean that he's going to review his hand at this stage. but again, it goes back to the question. i mean, ukraine channel when this, what we know, you bring kind of a window swap. but the nato strategy is to make sure that russia doesn't when this was, they was like the latest strategies. let's just basically keep as well going. i mean,

that's basically just keep draining russia and of course, you know, the price of that is that you're also draining your brains. but that as long as the rush is getting drained and who knows what might happen in russia, and they've figuring out what may be the, they'll be a and i get in all the goals. and i'll be some of the, some kind of a or public opinion will turn again i am 17 because the you took the hood of them. i'm not exact in the ninety's every day is something that will give that's the live the strategy to play. and that's why i think that russia's point of view is they should wrap this up. i mean, the key time was giving advice. so, but, you know, obviously i don't know the, all the logistics they have, they should have, i'm a century mound, a serious of the, i'm going to, i'm going to tear page from george. i'm going to show you some of george's words right back. and which i actually agree with is that one of the reasons why they

have and thrusted more robustly into ukraine is because they always have to keep the, the, the possibility of going to an all outcome or would need to. okay? and that's another dilemma that they have, but that wasn't my point. george mike brought that up over a year ago. mark me after that. yeah, i mean, you know, it's, it's, it's so strongly that when you look at the bigger picture and you see what we had before, the triangle, which was a huge, filed a mo, both a zone which should have kept on both sides content. you know, there was not a nature threatened nature of the front line, but now if we go, if the escalates, um we wait, wait. and the russians actually do have some sort of operation. they could come to the pony folder, so there be no, no buses, and a to no distance at all between nato and russia, which i'm sort of to fix the whole object. so yeah, we have a cause, but there's a lot of nato and rushes. barker is interested in a slides ramos out of time if i want to talk about this strange person named ashton

carrillo, of this person's name. i'm going to try to avoid the pronouns here. so i have to say, oh, okay. oh, okay, now you got a yeah. you know, i was a real oddity. this conflict is great and a lot of the oddity and this is probably the peak oddity. the last 2 video this, i'm referring to this person in american citizen that has been hired to do p r propaganda notes spokesperson for the brain. and, and i saw these videos i, i think every time i think it's a name, it's a joke and they keep telling is it's not who wants to take this one, which one. but i think it's a very interesting that there is a bus. i'm obviously very dis, the serious mental health issues a very serious issue with identity who this person is. it's entirely fitting to this is the 1st sort of should be this folks. those are the board you

brought in because your brain is, i think, a very sick country with a serious identity issues. i think it's a, it's a match made in heaven the market because i mean that i have to assume, but directly indirectly. this is funded by the us government aspect, where i some, i talked about miscalculation before, you know, the biggest belief, the number of poor decisions that i made by the pentagon. all, they've been a bind the ministration. this just seems to be another one, the less of a freak shot, less just will out this transgender kind of a monster. and this as soon as a certain amount of messages from your claim to the well, you know, hey, we've already with somebody who's a liberal, we have chose transgender people. i mean, give them public service jobs, you know, spokesperson, but even with the spokes person, spokeswoman spokes mom, spokes thing. i don't know where i'm going here. even i suppose to put something in a c. p is not very good. unless that's my problem. i don't know

a problem with your transgender. i don't have a problem. what race you? well, you know what you're really is believe. so when you've gone cannibals on a sunday afternoon, while i have a problem with, is if you're any good, all your message. and this person is a, in the so that's why i'm a little distracted by it. but you know, this person, you know, martin, george is if they a russian polk spokes person talk like that. it would be interesting that would blow up. ok. but this is, you know, taking passively, it's really quite remarkable. you have the means, the lens, the interview with the economy as you know, you know, you, you don't know what we're capable of. and in the gentleman, unfortunately, we've run out of time on a think, my guess in budapest, in america, so north like our viewers. but watching us here in our dc and next time remember across doubles the,

the name of the nuclear love, seeing those little muscles, if you look for them, the visual do wanna club significantly per stuff is a little while to deal with can use the body when you do oil change, but you also still was done the newest, really going to be systems to build a new do what i see these the buses, the little cute little dyson says this tutorial on both of the

china and a rush. this is something they provide to me in most cases of the further develop. but until then, nations old with the strong by that from 5 perhaps a troop rotation or perhaps the munition to fluid positions at any rate it's on the far as i see that for us on a russian of offices on the front lines you praise and the big cheese squabbles and keep things together on the battlefield that made a massive wave of dismissals among senior defense official from us in a labor. so i campos at the us alternative industry with the one who's demanding.