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a while to discuss this on so much more, i'm joined in the studio by jackson hand cold political on this on how to solve the dive with jackson and gold. jackson is great to have you on the program and new fast talking to moscow as well. so we've got very lucky and i just want to follow up on the russell brown thing before we delve into all the stuff. i mean, what was your initial reaction? was there anything that struck to the something about the timing perhaps? yeah, i was just very happy to see that you on my skin, tucker carlson, amongst many others a you know, given their support to russell brandon mid this controversy and i'll be the most recent to give my support to russell brand because what's clear is if you challenge the western mainstream media, if you simply say the things that cnn or time magazine were saying just 3 years ago, calling the ukranian government band rides and nazis which they are, then they're going to come after you like this. i mean, imagine if imagine if russel branded like run for political office or something to
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that effect, really challenge power. i mean, is youtube shows the most popular political show on all of the internet? i think it's even meeting of steven, proud or now. so he's, he's definitely got a huge voice, and that's why they're coming after him. it's completely political and has nothing to do with actual allegations or anything. you know how he mistreated women, actually it's about his political views and that is challenging to establish. the last thing i'll say is the fact that youtube, the monetize this whole channel. they do monetize my channel over a year and a half ago because i was calling out the balls and tribes with regard to you brain . and now this is their new form of suppression. they don't have to lock people up in prison anymore, like they're doing it to into sons. they can simply just wipe away all your mechanisms of income and silence you via taking away your youtube channel. your monetization, like they've done here, simply for accusations what, what those kinds of true? well, no, it definitely does something about the time that seems less than quiz to that. and
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so not just about the import off your own experience, because that is something i wanted to ask you. i mean, you've spoken out like she was saying about ukraine a lot. you were talking about how, you know, a couple of years ago, we had articles on the atlanta council talking about the appraisal in your not to program. i know this is not an alternate headline. you could see that kind of stuff . now i, so it's one of my favorite example spring up because i just, it's too good not to have you seen anything from your own experience in an attempt to kind of cross or sort of deal with your voice. of course, of course, like so many others, you know, i've been banned or d, monetize or suspended from a whole host of companies. it's not limited to youtube, twitter, twitch, you know, discord, venmo, paypal, all these payment processors. right? but it's just really incredible because america is a country that supposedly values free speech supposedly values, you know, the strongest idea reigning supreme be the, you know, battle place of the free market, all these sorts of things. but now if you say that ice for russian,
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or i think that your brain is maybe in the wrong here, then they're going to silence your. they're going to take away your form of income, or as we've seen, even with the russian government and russian economy, they try to sanction it less than right. so much for a free economy right and free market. because if you simply have a geo political issue that you stand oppose the united states on the free market no longer exist. 5 eventually, because you think, what's the goal here? the goal is presumably to get rid of annoying voices like your know i missed to do, but i can see how something might consider them slightly annoying in order that they have them one or voice in, in the media. and i want to ask you about especially the west and medias coverage over the ukraine conflict. i mean how complicit do you think it's being in supporting pro ping up. the police coordinates narrative and policies. a 100 percent? i mean, if the main for me to, in the west, suppose any sort of
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a challenge to the english money flow to ukraine or the war mongering that we're seeing against china regarding taiwan. any of these issues, complex geo political issues or the imprisonment that we just mentioned to join us on any of these hot button issues. if anyone in the western press actually challenge these, these topics in the official narratives, then we wouldn't see the overwhelming, you know, manufacturing of consent amongst the us in western european publics for all these issues. and i think tucker carlson was a perfect example of that. that's why, you know, tucker calls in a large towards the reason why, for the 1st time since the start of the war, new brain, we now have the majority of americans that oppose sending more money to. there's a lensky government. so without that voice in the mainstream press, you know, i think there's fortunately enough people that have woken up to the truth and see what's going on. but unfortunately, there's not going to be many more people that are going to be waking up to the fact that they're just simply lying about all these stores. when you start looking at
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media and recent weeks, such as stories have started to trickle through a ukrainian come on to and this was ukraine. you need immediate reporting that out of a hundreds that'd be mobilized since the old to $80.00, to $91.00 out. i that wounded that open you times. i think it was just today releasing an article that said that actually evidence suggests that the recent attack on the market patient constance northgate needs from ukraine was actually probably it was key of sold and 15 civilians died. now what do you make the fact that the story is coming out isn't because they just couldn't hide it anymore, or they trying to sort of applying the ties that reaches to the fact that that's a change call me and i might be know what they've been preparing the people syllabus time, you can look at any form or us assets abroad. you can look at whoever it is, you know, saddam hussein you can look at us on the been logged in. and eventually, every single us as it even, you know, i,
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as in and outside of what we've done with them in syria against the bush, all assad government ever, us as it eventually meets its demise. and i think that zalinski may or may not be close to meeting that, that cruel end. i mean 71000 individuals last and this ukranian counter offensive that's, that's a suicide mission. there should be people all across the streets in odessa and live in t, a protesting against what their government is doing, sending their husbands, their fathers, their brothers, their sons, out to this. it really is a suicide mission. it's so sad what's happening, but there aren't because the s b will of course, come in and imprison them or, or even worse, but you're right there. there are the stories beginning to trickle through. i will say one thing though, the story regarding con, seem to know if got with the missile that hit that marketplace and 15 civilians, casualties were reported. initially, the associated press reported on that story and they show they shared the video of the missile flying over the cars. but they edited out the footage as to where that
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missile actually came from, which showed it came from new printing and territory. so they're still trying, but fortunately, i guess there's some invoices that are beginning to break through. well it's and now it's just an example of kind of living and it's a post truth. well, you can't even believe what you say. we don't own eyes anymore. you talked about the suicide will counter offensive, i mean an absolute tragedy. and then the book club room thing control came about henry for some big marks and mcdonalds and, and, and, and keep it is actually astonishing. i agree with you that more people don't take them to the streets when they see the kind of level of disrespect. but how long do you think the key of allies? well, i mean, find out actually, or politically can afford to maintain best invest, put on the front seat or political financial week or whatever, you know, i think the real question is regarding manpower, because the russian military has done a number on the, you know, you brainy and manpower and the say it's
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a war of attrition. so slowly but surely whether it be in box moods or what we're seeing in this counter offensive, your brain is losing significance. manpower. i mean, north of 400000 us far. that, that's an astonishing number for something that isn't even on the all out for russia is got more reserve is tens of thousands of reservists behind their 3 lines . the counter offensive. they've got even more reserve has been total members of the russian military. and you brain still in russia, or if people wanted to make this awards, it could, but he hasn't yet, it could be way worse. the other thing i'll say is, i think that was, has that the western governments have their priorities in order. they can do this physically for as long as there's been, if they continued to make decisions like sending $250000000000.00 to ukraine, or somewhere around that number and only $700.00 to the residents impacted by the hawaii fires, right. they don't care about american families, they don't care about the people in our own country. our infrastructure is my 1st time in moscow. the infrastructure here is beautiful, clean streets,
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there and criminals, everywhere. the streets aren't you know, sacked with, with drugs, fentanyl o b words and stuff like that. i mean, it's incredible. here. america looks like a zombie. wasteland that's indicates it's crazy. loved initially. exactly. is still the question for my mouth. i was going to ask you, what i know is your 1st time and brush. so we talked about how you got very lucky with the weather, but a beautiful indian salma. but apart from exactly this kind of and it's letting me know. i still reason when i was in europe in the lack of investment in infrastructure and the all that sort of initial thoughts may be specifically about how the west has been, but betraying russia. and the way that russia actually is. yes, uh, what i found really interesting when i, when i walked around red square yesterday was the key of c is still open and burger king is still open. i haven't given it a go yet, but i'm definitely going to visit. but no, i mean, america it's, i, i don't know when the last time or if you've ever been was but it's just, it's just miserable. i moved recently from los angeles to miami miami's relatively
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nice, but los angeles it's, it's one of the many cities effected by the drug prices in our country. you know, you have these rich families like the satler's and for do farm and making so much money off the misery of the american working class. we have 600000 homeless americans, 60000 of which are veterans who served our country. you know, and we're supposed to believe now that our veterans were going to fight and you pray. and these are the bravest men ever. the biggest 0 is that our country is ever seen. but us government's going to treat them the same exact way they're going to be homeless within the next few years. and probably on opi ords or some sort of a, you know, drug addiction is very sad. so what i'll say about moscow is um, and i'm looking for to go into saint petersburg very soon, but moscow already is more beautiful than any major city i've ever been in. and i've been in virtually every major american city, and it has more history than every major american city. and i think my advice, so anyone listening whether you're in us or elsewhere as travel, travel to russia,
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travel moscow, saint petersburg and all across the world. because if we aim to really break down these walls of mistrust, that our government, or governments in the west had manufactured for the people of the west. the only way we can do that is people to people, diplomacy, and actually talking with people and meeting people. and understanding what's really going on in the world, and i've had the uh, good fortune of being able to do that while i'm here. well, i'm very happy to talk to anyone to earn what's happening. i'll have to go back from new york subway. i have been on it and it was a how state, unlike anything, i don't know if you've been on the metro here yet, but it's a very different experience and blah, be talked about kind of some of the problems that the us is experiencing at the moment you talked about sentiment, we talked about homeless does that's on the street as well. i mean, obviously the us is sending out billions of dollars to your brain at the same time . but you have defies in hawaii. there are a number of low climate dissolves does, but also people as a struggling, it's just economic to find out. she has
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a difficult time. how uh, from your perspective as an america and based out the how do americans feel about the spot, the bass pull kits of being an update essentially, to a country that may be they don't feel a necessary affinity with. and they can't really say what the goal is that because america's never really defined. no, no, i mean, the said the reality is, is that i think if you went to every member of the united states congress and you had a world map that you could drop before them and you ask them, can you please point to the country that we send $250000000000.00 to on this map. i don't think that they'd be able to actually point to you brain on a map, which is a just goes to show the insanity of what we're doing. we definitely know that the american public is not familiar with what's going on here and you're right that the leads have not been able to identify what the goals of this mission are. and the goals are quite simple. it's too weak and russian to pose boots in steel,
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their resources, and balkanized it into a bunch of smaller countries in the process which they're failing, of doing. but uh, you're a 100 percent correct. the american people are struggling. the average american doesn't have enough savings for like a 500 dollar, you know, emergency fund if their car broke down or they had a medical expense to pay for, they couldn't do it. and what i think america is the most in pain buy is not just the fact that we're sending all this money to ukraine. that's, that's, that's crazy enough as it is. but the fact that over the past few decades, we've completely outsourced all of our manufacturing jobs. our economy is a business team, labrons of, you know, predatory schemes of, of, you know, stock speculation, entries, rand, you name it. we don't produce anything anymore. you look at what bricks countries are doing and they're producing oil, gas, coal, let's see. and uh, you know, uranium lumber, gold, silver, you name it, right agriculture. that's why countries like russia and china are leading the way
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into a new future. they're prioritizing the economy for public good and accelerating the forces of production in the same time. i think america would benefit a lot by following the economic road that the past that china is that ford. i think that's exactly what we need to do. china is doing an incredible job as, as russia, and we need to address the prices in our own country and how people are suffering to, well, i can see is sitting here with you because these people such conviction, you have the facts to back up what you'll say i can see why a pit smoke and so he struggles to count any of your points, especially on ukraine. i mean keep a controversial fig. got it sometimes. and instead of the comedic value, it's quite fun to watch him. i mean, what did you make of the fact the officer came out and he said to it and said, you're wrong about you, craig, and this is the truth. this is the truth. but he really actually couldn't retaliate to any of your points with anything specific. it was just like a general idea,
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a logical point of view. he brought me on to talk about ukraine and initially said, i talked about the history as briefly as i could, the, to the atrocities and the dom best. and he immediately said, well, that's all bonkers and he had some other words use to describe my, my, my history of what had happened in new brain in russia. and then just a few moments later. and he said, well you know, jackson, maybe some of the points you made were historically defensive. busy and accurate. so you're a 100 percent, correct? you know, they'll just call anything russian propaganda. putting propaganda, blood's, if you know they, the, they had to and a lie detector. you know, their life was on the line. they had to tell the truth. i think they'd be able to say that, yes, this actually is what occurred over the last, you know, 8 years or so. and this is what led to the crisis in ukraine and whether or not, i mean, i personally think that russia should have lunch there as i'm away sooner. i think they should have done it sooner. but whether or not you think rushes as a mo, was
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a just response to the propagation. you can't deny that it was a needle provocation that sparked all of this. yon stilton burge admitted it this week, the secretary general of nato. he said, yes, boon gave us a proposal to achieve peace and we knew that if we didn't do that, it would spark and as a mo or something to that effect. and we rejected the piece plan. so that's where we're at now. lots commendable, but you continue to take to tossed these people, and i actually just wonder from a personal point of view. i mean, i've spoken to a number of people here, and they've talked about the reputational hit that they've taken for advocating such some points of view. and you know, the psychological pressure they've, they've come on the, and i can imagine that you've experienced a lot of hate. he's been labeled in smith and i wanted to up, i just think i just can't do it anymore. and if you have them, what is it that you that kind of keeps, it keeps you going? that's what keeps me going. is that history will indicate us all. history will not
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look fondly upon the nazis and the liberals who are saying that you can change genders, all this crazy stuff there. and dr. needing the youth with this propaganda, history all look favorably upon them. and i, i really just do believe that the overwhelming majority of the public will see, i mean, let's be honest. the overall majority of the global population already supports russia and what they're doing. and this estimate, we have stats approve it. we have plenty of polls to prove it. governments of the world are either officially voting as a supporting or neutral and the stance of the russian eskimo, the united states and western europe. and really just them. i mean, maybe they claim that the, you know, they are the arbiters of truth and they're the global policeman. but in reality, especially in this ever changing multi polar world with saudi arabia now leaving the petro dollar and effect and moving towards breaks. the west is
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a hollow skeleton of power to crumbling and fire, and empires are most dangerous when the rising and when they're following right now is definitely the case for the united states and for the west. i just hope that we scramble enough because of our 1776 period to put in, put all the pieces back together again and rebuild our country and become a nation among nations rather than a nation that tries to rule over the rest of the world. well, uh, as a brit, the 1776 reference is a bit of a sensitive point, but i'll say, you know what, i think on talk about the mentioned to me most pretty well and especially bring up south and moving away from the pet to daughter. i don't so you know, you think about how the political landscape is changing us out in a wrong coming together. no one could have imagined that such a thing would be happening. you know, even a year and a half or 2 years ago. so i are a 100 percent agree that would definitely seeing historic shift. um, do you think that the way is going to make a last desperate attempt to prevent the rise of the smell to put in
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a while to see africa finding its voice? the middle east is peace coming. that looks like a young man that's hurry up as well as a piece. and i think that's probably but this consulting for washington. even after the break summit and honest berg, i think there was some countries that were bit upset that they weren't included in this round. and they're striving to be included in breaks. and the next round of, uh, you know, negotiations and applications. but of course, i think, i think russia, the war against russia, the war that they're beginning to turn up against china. you know, we're seeing hundreds of millions of dollars, the shipments of javelins and military training to taiwan, which is a part of china. but they're saying it's not, you know, all of this stuff is a part of the ongoing efforts to challenge the multi puller world in re, in states this 1000 year, global as rights that the west wants to instill through a great reset. all these movements populace movement in europe, the mazda movement in us, the uh,
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anti neo colonial movement in africa. all these crews taking place. i called them revolutions, but the media calls them cruise. what's happening in china with the success of their economy? i mean, in terms of gdp, purchasing power parity, trying to beat the united states by 5 trillion dollars last year. they've increased real wages for the chinese public by a factor of 2 times or the past decade. i think all of these factors combined show that as alexander do getting puts it, there will be an effective, great awakening that will overcome the great reset. i think there's really no hope of stifling the success of the rest of the world. the suddenly a lot of the how about the direction that the country is going and physically he thinks that they're out of control. and that, that run by people who don't necessarily know what that doing. but it's clear that most of their huge social tensions, i mean from seem to bring that to the full. and that definitely seem to be a start to and, and kind of this is hard to seem to end up in middle shots. do you feel that you're
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kind of getting to a breaking point in america? why it's going to spill over in some form or another? so i think that's what we've seen over the past few years with the division in our country, whether it's the all black lives matter or the of any of the. busy tests that have sparked out the environmentalists protests, all of that stuff. it's no different than airbus spring or what we've seen in the past years, us fomenting, you know, revolutions and, and serbia, or what are you, this love you and what we've seen in georgia, a new brain with the rose revolution in the may dawn revolution. i mean, all these things we're seeing in the west archers, manufactured domestic color revolutions. so i want to look too much into that because i think the american consciousness has already forgotten about bill and they've already forgotten about all these issues. what i do think is very dangerous, is the mechanism of loss here. that's the binding department of justice is utilizing, not just against journalists like us on she anymore,
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but also against the former president of the united states. donald trump, and everyone knows what's happening there. but the scariest portable of all about this story is they're actually talking about holding initial court trial dates for donald trump in, in maybe late october. and they're talking about charging him with the crime of insurrection, which would prevent them from actually being on us ballots in the upcoming election . so when you look at the app possibility, i think that poses far more of a, of a, a provocation of a civil unrest. than any sort of, you know, arbitrary or manufactured cultural political division about transgender is a more black lives matter, any of these issues. the final thing i want to ask you is a kind of a, a, an american perspective on europe. because i'm trying to, to in, is bureau chief of washington who is definitely someone to follow on twist uh,
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recently. cool. uh, do europe and america's poodle. what's your perspective when you look at it's, i mean we've seen job many basically the industrial ice thing we're seeing, i mean, a mile from crisis we're covering and i'm put, there's a, i mean that's when a to of, to very different options that were taken in libya for example, but has europe lost its suffering to a 100 percent? i think uh, europe would be much better if they all integrated into the belt and wrote initiative into breaks all this stuff. and we saw just last week that the prime minister of italy, georgia maloney, the world economic forms favorite stooge. she came out and said that we are going to be likely leaving, developed and wrote initiative. and i thought to myself, why on earth would you do that? i mean, if you don't like the terms of the agreement, why not just re negotiate? if you get into fights with your domestic spouse and you, you immediately say i'm going to get a divorce from you. that that's all really logical. that doesn't make sense. you
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should talk about the issue and try to work out a solution. but the reason why maloney is not doing that and working out a solution and is rather just straight filing for divorce would try. and, and the built in wrote initiative is because he was told her to do so in the same thing could be said about any of these nations, germany didn't. germany didn't say a word when they blew up in north spring pipeline. you see the same thing with all these countries, you know, there they are, the poodles of the united states and wall street. and, um, and, you know, i, i, i think it's just all areas. poland is a perfect example of that. you know, poland is a country that is the prostitutes of the you, they wouldn't be anything without the you and hungry speech their mind. and then they get essentially sanctioned by the own. you parents, organization. they're not giving them their you funds, and they're being really personal of underlines being very rude with. uh, victor, oregon. so you're, you're a good leader and you're a good government in the european union. if you do exactly what the us says,
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if you don't, you're going to pay the price. now my favorite, what's the, uh, the ultimate, that they absolutely did that radar in poland to count wrong, said because they will know about what was coming next. jackson, i really can't tell you, it was such a pleasure to talk to you in the studio. i commend you coverage, and just the beautiful way in which he speak can express your opinions. so thank you so much for joining us. thought was that school on this on host of the die projects and tangled the mine himself, jackson and thank you. the, [000:00:00;00] the, the,
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russian states never as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community best. most all sense enough in the system to progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russia to day and split the ortiz full neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say from stephen twist,
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which is the at the end of the 18th century britain began the illegal opium frayed in china. these hard drugs causing addiction and literally destroying the human body became a gold mine, or businessman from the foggy l. b. a. however, the ruling chinese ging dynastee tried to resist and to stop the illegal trade, which provoked the wrath of the london business community. in 1840 without a declaration of war, the english fleet began to seize and plunder chinese coastal boards, barley, arm denmoore, lead train, chinese army, was unable to provide adequate resistance. the jing empire was forced to hand hong, gone over to england, and open it sports for trading the legal good. in 1856, france and the united states joined in the robbery of china. the anglo french
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troops defeated the chinese occupied basie and committed an unprecedented robbery. destroyed and blundered the wealth of the un menu one palace. the defeat of the jing dynasty and the due opium wars fled to the transformation of the celestial empire into a semi colony of european states and started the age of humiliation. and the sale of opium took on collazo proportions and led to the horrible depths of millions of ordinary chinese. the plans that are so important, that's what i'm saying is i'm talking about the panel. no, i'm not the so i'm not fixing that amount of money. avoid the mistake dental to share because i've already,
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if you need another shad low but i want you to do for the good news i did was i had someone could easily do that sir. and the you might know that you quoted us when you might do that for those that do, if we could just, if we send you a glove of, uh, the door on may offer us the only would you put it on the restaurant. but again, this vinny shirts, i have confirmed it offers cool lot, but just showing, do you mind giving me the number or let me know you got my divine if i, if you do the best you some history on friends mental health also when they bring it back on monday, i pretty soon dispatch, i mean all i have to go in and we're gonna come up with the reason i'm that i'm in the library and i figured they've done with b print up. do you have any problem on the phone like google shifts yet that have been given to them?
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money don't song as you know. net. thank you. m. when you're in the room, you will get onto to ship the tesla today and push people up on the the, this is alex, a good color, a member of the, as of regiments, you surrendered in disgrace that as of style in may, 2022 dpi. supreme court sentenced to life imprisonment protocol, or what of say, what do you wish for the shows, but as soon as you cox cuz i didn't use for jello before we're not really, i'm not you

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