the candidates in france, we have petty lawrence pele. he is a geo political analyst, as well as author of the upcoming book, ukraine, the spy entrepreneur. and here in moscow we crossed 2 white reed. he is a managing editor at the grace zone. alright, across lock rolls and effect, gentleman and i always appreciate you jumping in matthew, let me go to you 1st here with a lot of the news coming out right now and it covers a wide array of things. first of all, we have a nato general secondary spelt number warning everyone. this is going to be a long war. so nato has decided it wants to be in a long war. it is foreclose negotiations just in the last loose last new cycle. we have bloomberg reporting headline u. s. and g 7. allies expect the complex and ukraine to drag on for years. so this is a choice. this is a choice on their part, isn't it? yes it, none of this needs to happen. this could have this could be resolved as, as love rock themselves. they made a point in his remarks. this could be resolved in a split 2nd. even donald trump is made

a point how easy this would be to simply resolve by re restoring it, changing the attic then. so let's keep but for it, seeing that there would be no negotiations possible or even legal with put in um and it seems as though even though there are nice flowery words saying we want to speedy into this regardless of the amount of manpower the human life that it's being, as that's being destroyed, you have these unseen remarks buys by soleberg saying this will go on for another decade. so it does seem to be that they don't want it to end, that they are conscious efforts to continuously port diesel on the people on the, on the, on the fires right now in the, there's no insight as long as this ideology continues to dominate the trans atlantic okay, what. ringback why it, you know, a year from the united states, we have teddy, he's in france, we have matthew, he's in canada. so all of you guys have been participating in some kind of election about continuing the war and ukraine. right. i mean, where's the people's choice here?

we have the choice, this isn't a lead conflict that has been from day one in a lee complex, but nobody among the populace, the citizenry votes on these things. why? why it well, that's, that's right. and you know, if you, we haven't had some kind of election about this early on in the past year or so, year and a half. i think there is a significant chance that and the list weapons to the wednesday might have prevailed. but for the 1st time, now we have poles coming out from cnn and others that show a majority of americans are opposed to this endless supply of military hardware to the most corrupt regime in europe. this is not something that is popular and amongst either side as it is beginning to seem. we have uh, i saw um just earlier this week, a report came out uh from national public radio hardly. right. part news hardly tucker carlson. they said biden's plan to send more aid to ukraine is criticized by

voters in wisconsin. and they spoke about liberal and conservative voters drying opposing this plan. that binding has hooked up to send another $24000000000.00 to ukraine. so i think we're starting to see a significant shift in the united states, which makes it increasingly untenable for elected officials to just pour fuel on the fire as my, as the previous guest put it on teddy. we also have in the news a remarkably, it's interesting how poland is kind of reversed itself. no more. ours were ukraine . i mean, you know, 15 seconds ago they were the biggest supporters of this conflict here. now it's beginning to road domestic politics in europe. it doesn't bode well for uh, there's a lensky regime in all of his back or is go ahead. teddy. uh, well, uh, i was told what comes to me uh end of june. uh, it was uh invited to the academy of for rena fietta,

indiana. and i attempted to meet him with the, the best of books, rasa us. and so what i have been hearing sounds is gentlemen, is that a russian would be losing to me. yeah. there would be enough to fly, get into europe, then flags flying over games in the boat, 6 moans. all right, hold on. so the number 2 of the central bank to the same, that's the last time economy was complete. the collapsing that they really seen was a disaster, and so on an airplane times they have been giving me a call to the teen tech to talk about my own experience. so basically is this guy is they want to go to war to the end. so they need to tweak the because what do you have been observing for the moment? is that what we are, the lack of the supply in,

in know to the, in the price as being claim, being skyrocketing to a points that nobody can afford. in fact, to drive the car in your the and just see on index as being corrupting completely. if we're looking up to the germany index duties at sport to the one in the studio, he's at $1339.00 in funds for up to 6. and i see in front of the assembly overall shop at 56. so what does it mean? you mean step one and i saw as the 3rd strongest resolution today in the world. and every body is collapsing and you go to all in the session mode. we were, you know, so or the city. let me, let me jump in. here we go because your, your frame is shaking a little bit here. let me go to matthew right now. but matthew, i mean,

and gaming and all of the statements that we've been coming out of western capital is, you know, as long as it takes all the time here. that also tells us that they're not interested in peace. c, ukraine seems to be relevant to this entire conversation. if they wanted peace, they could easily get it. i don't know about trump's 24 hour plan, but along the lines of what you stop funding this ridiculous war and it will come to an end, matthew? yeah it's, it's not, it's not a great magical secret how this would work. um, i think that's part of this is that the, those were planning. this thing are really stuck on the and, and still drunk on the success of being your brzezinski use great victory by a, by, you know, sucking the soviets back into their, their unwinnable quagmire in enough gas and back in the eighty's. and there's just this strange effort to just replicate this, this template in our modern era,

despite the fact that the world has changed very much since 19 eighties and 79. when the us really what the dominant superpower economically, and on other, other points today, the world is completely different. we have the rusher of trying to iran aligns, but that's one over many of the countries of the world to a new, a new set of rules of the game and, and the formulas of the past don't work anymore. but there's just as unwillingness to recognize this reality and i like math, i don't think does he think that's what makes the, the west particularly the united states really, really dangerous. let me go to wyatt. i'm not here because this is a paradigm shift. we're seeing how the global south is reacting to all of this. but we need these people in washington. they are so id logically driven theirs. but what they want to do is they want to defeat russia. lloyd austin said that in the very, very beginning. okay. and what it is doing is it, is it writing their own power back home?

why it absolutely, they hopes to degrade russian militarily, to the point where it could not do such things. again, i believe was lloyd austin's exact phrasing. they wanted to turn the rouble into, or the russian rouble into rubble. and what did they get instead? well, now they have nato being the militarized by for sending all of its excess arguments to be destroyed by the russian military. and they've also shot themselves in the foot economically and force this transition, the rest of the world to, to the new sort of bricks lead order that is, uh, according to most of the countries joining it. unable them to have real self determination in a way where they're not having to be forced to take loans by these international loan sharks like b am, math and the world bank that doesn't dictate economic terms, that force privatization onto people who don't want them. so, you know, in that sense, this has been a massive self inflicted injury. good teddy, me,

there's a new for me and there was a phrase at the end of the 19th or early 20th century, it was called the sick man of europe. but of course, that was the ottoman empire, but now we see the term resurrected and its being applied to germany for good reason. go ahead, teddy. well, i have been switching to hand, so the documents that was emitted by the other end in the this is joyce from sleeping that has been giving me the so i was just looking at it was describing the way that americans deal do would be just throwing completely, the german economy. uh, you know, the deal is a huge effort that has been put together between germany of russia and china to be the best and go to use that you these, but bona to shift merchandise from china to your was upset with the essential to what is going on and as it was shadowing, in fact, the capacity couldn't make

a capacity of the u. s. the us, of being destroying inside the, the pipeline which makes the economy of germany companies equaled up seeing any of these documents. it was stipulating clearly that's in fact the americans wanted to shift all the email g consuming industry, grows by usa in fact, to get a sense built for very cheap, but the size of the social consequences that all i'm really sorry is because even the jobs i'll shift because the company are moving away. that means the politically speaking, this is going to be a very serious problem for souls. and actually when sorts he's a heading, we'd be meeting the board meeting. so i have in europe every body's bowing demon springs. well, teddy and teddy as i saw on twitter a very interesting picture. when the chancellor, i call them sergeant schultz,

was addressing the united nations general assembly. nobody was there listening. nobody wants to hear what the german chancellor is, has to say. and you know what, maybe they still have the pipeline people would be willing to listen, but they don't have the pipeline. it's gone hard gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we get to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on nato's choice. stay with our team, the. the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders, the human beings, except we're such shorter is a conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. and the point obviously is to place a trust rather than fit the job. i mean,

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what is really a working in the, the, the advantage of the us and its allies, is that they have a willing participant. you know what, what we have here is that ukraine is not a victim, it's a volunteer, it's volunteering for this and it's leadership. and that's what makes it so morally repugnant. okay. because they're in on the money laundering, matthew. yeah, everyone's morally compromised or playing this thing, even the pandora papers back in or the animal paper back in the date as a demonstrated zalinski was the eyeballs deepen in all sorts of shady business with, with offshore bank accounts in the cayman islands, in virgin island. uh, with, with tens of millions, just not more dollars associated with him directly and his wife, but also a, all of the, the, the leading oligarchs of ukraine as well as the binding crime family. and then you have the stories of san breton brinkmann fried. and that money laundering operation to feedback cash and the tax payer straight to the democratic party. these are the

operations and going to ukraine. it's like everywhere you look, it's just your corruption. and then you have the black rock, you know, a world economic form model going into full affecting you create on every level. if this is really just the most dentist form of corruption, i think in the world or an official status, at least least of the part that people could see openly. and yet, despite that, they're, they're still going forward calling this thing a, a model of democracy when they canceled their elections. you know, so let's use it in the math here. david, we have to remember that zalinski said, even if he gave me 5000000000 more i we might talk about it. no, i mean, it's so brazen. if is volunteer. let me let me go to wyatt. you know, the, i, or any of it all, who are, you know, they, the, they want to ukraine wants to be, we made in the image of the west. but what's happening is that the west is becoming like ukraine. i am so lutely and it's increasingly unpopular when we talk about

this decision by the poland prep pull as president andre due to, to no longer ship analyst supply weapons to ukraine. that's being presented obviously, is kind of a symptom of this grain dispute between ukraine and poland. but what's left on said is whole and has elections coming up. we have the incredible public support for pulse polish or i should say ukrainian refugees that has slipped from the low nineties now to the 60 percent. and it's not just poland, it's slovakia, it's austria. all these countries where elections are coming up. there is an increasing sense that if we continue forking over all of our assets to these ukranian refugees, many of whom do not even seem particularly grateful for it. if we keep it's for thing over all of our assets. so the ukranian military for it to just disappear down somebody's pocket, and then we're going to eventually pay the price, select poorly. well, let's talk about politics, petty. we have already mentioned, you know, poland and other eastern european countries. and we do have elections coming up in

a number of them a poland, austria slovakia. do you think that's good? the ukraine complex is good influenced the elections there because we all know that europe is terrified of populist. go ahead, daddy. as well. i wouldn't say that this is the conflict itself that is going to trigger some the major influence on the election. that's more of the consequences of the, the coffee look at what defense we front in africa the teen as being the head being the country. in fact, to the descendants of the 2nd countries, in fact, to defend himself from france. and now we have the book, you know, 1st of all, we have the money. we have the 90 that this mean breaking a box completely. i will relationship. and this is going to be a major, how those are all like put on me because we are not going to get the gas. and before the, at the price, we used to get it either be you write them in the pollution in front of stock to

stuff there is thursday about the consequences. the 1st product that has been increasing by 27 percent, we have the custodian, the that's been increasing by 60 percent. people cannot afford the impact to the property or right now we have 30 percent of the population, the shipping middle every day. so therefore, that mean that's at the end of the story, somebody we've got to be dissipated, go to for the story. and my cut off is a real responsible from what this company know. well, it was really interesting again, who is going to be held responsible? well i, i think we're going to be held responsible. okay. we approach showing the uncomfortable truths about this. we've been doing it from the very, very beginning. and, and, and matthew, we're all lucky, right now is at west western media. it's, it's okay now to talk about corrupted a new great, remember before the complex,

it was a corrupt the country and then only 15 minutes ago we could talk about it again. matthew, as well, words are, are very, we take them for granted. what uh the, the, the, the power of, of telling the truth and i mean we see them on one side where it's kind of like the, the, the trial the story finds christian anderson with a child who was the 1st one due to have the courage and the innocence, in a sense, to just say the truth that the emperor has no clothes in it, and then you couldn't put the genie back in the bottle. and i think you use, you are sort of seeing some inklings of that, where we see the breakdown of polling just simply saying, you know, openly and loudly that the ukraine is like a drowning man. the more you give, the more they're going to taking. they're still going to take you down with them. you've got some serious, some actual resistance. it seems inside of the us congress as well. uh towards this and, you know, there's, there's an open demand to actually see where the money is going. why are we having no account ability, no oversight? but at the same time there's, i think, a raise over controlling the narrative. and we, we heard just into our den, who's now all of a sudden, somehow this major chief at harvard in charge of

a basically planning of the censorship for the new internet. seeing the words are warfare and how for every weapon of misinformation run by pro russian voices. we have new weapons to counteract that, that we're, we're gonna bring online, but we can't say what they are yet, but they're going to be an important weapons. and you can only imagine the desperation to get control of this new reform the eventually when you've, that you've already given a discursive example of when they go to a wide here being pro russian. no, i'm pro peace. ok, i'm pro peace. okay? and this is this, there are, well, we and trick that they always play all the time. i want this more to come to an end . now it never, it should have started in the 1st place, okay. and be not being able to say peace, you know that, that, that it is really do ukraine and all of its people go head. why it as well as you pointed out correctly. now we are allowed to discuss the corrections. thankfully the very strange spokes person, english speaking spokes,

person for the training and territorial defense forces was forced, was fired. but over the past week or so, it seems that we were all being threatened with death for potentially being labeled, quote unquote, russian propagandist, all fitting in with this new trend of basically openly threatening terrorism. zalinski himself told the economist recently that it would not be a quote, a good story for europe if we know if the, if the west, the clients to continue sending endless weaponry to ukraine, essentially threatening terrorist attacks. so, you know, now i feel a little bit safer. obviously. no, you're right. we're not rushing propagandists. we are propagandists for peace. so we're going to be called anything kind of propagandist. i would say i had the same exact opinion all along. i want this to end yesterday, but unfortunately,

there seems to be this segment of our ruling class in the west that is totally committed to and keeping this thing going and, and really, that's kind of. so lensky is main demographic at this point. if you will have paid attention to the news these past few days, that was kind of one of the major meetings that flew under the radar was zelinski meeting with a host of ceos and his power players at a meeting organizing like jp morgan. he values came shortly after a meeting with the ceo of black rock, which is really going to be the main beneficiary in terms of the grant, whatever remains of the ukrainian run state coming out of all this via the why they hear you. he wants to privatize the, the looting it's, it's extraordinary. okay. and you're right. it was a meeting that really went under the radar, but it was really significant if you can pump in out of the, the tax payers go private. okay. and then they can, just as uh, you know, take all the plan, us off the bones of what's ever left here. any you live in france, what is public opinion? is public opinion changing against state against him,

a crown against nato. you've already mentioned the events going on in north africa . is there a shifting mood? go ahead, petty. i have to say something. i do believe that. now the public opinion stuck to be 3, me angry, emailing don't, of the condition in which people have to leave. and we of the left lucky, that's all raising the open use the political be units like to refund yates against the government. okay. you know, when i was coming back from your brain in february 2015 after the s b, what was being the testing me? i have been sending the utah month to the main store. most of the leaders in friends like, you know, what i mean, if you all actually to the miami was being worked on you were coming, meet the and that's who noticed somebody. and i've been telling them that they will

not take things off their shift to extremism that was happening in your brain. this country would be a major problem in the next 5 to 10 years. and this is what is happening at city. it was saying that it would be very, very easy in fact to stop the conflict. but that's mean the other thing in 2015 the most or to make sure that the supplements will be happening in the best condition for everybody. as i told them to go to do you have them each want to be the your opinion? you know you stopped the 2 must have inside the paper in the box or you would not get any dollar. i can guarantee you that but a single or is it even sky, would it be rolling onto the ground? yeah, but basically the, i'm sorry to tell you it's not about the new membership. it's not a, even about nato expansion. it's about taking russia off the geo political stage.

that's what it's all about. okay, matthew. 15 seconds before we go to end the program, go ahead. i agree. yes. and no. this, this really has nothing to do with ukraine. they're completely disposable. this has everything to do with who is going to be in a dominant position to shape the conditions of the emerging operating system that will replace the collapsing world water. that is being that that is having to plug pulled from it. and that's where the races that, whether it's gonna be multi polar based upon open system cooperation or restoration of the tech know feudalism and the population agenda will remains to be seen. all right, with the everybody, what matthew just said, they're take, pull out of posted, write it down and put it in your wallet. beautiful summation for the program here. it's all the time we have gentlemen. i want to thank my guest and friends, montreal, and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. remember across samples the

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