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the, the, the the people have the same opportunity to experience fishing the way i did. and that's the saddest thing about this industry for bickering and arguing over microphones. and you know, what council meetings are in the press. who suffers the most, is that a little kid that might not have a chance to go fishing or pursue his dream. all the things i do with my son are taken away from me, and they don't see that that's not in their pie charts and their flow charts and their circle graphs, scientists and their science. but i do the,
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the small coastal fishing communities. do we even need these small mom and pop operators? i think a lot of people are concerned about this, the twice as raging industry stories of the united states. on one side are people with deep roots in coastal fishing communities on the other, or the wealthy owners of industrial fishing operations, who use their political and economic power to dominate the industries. the losers in this battle were small scale fissures, the fish heavy oceans. fish is one of the most highly created commodities on the
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planet. the average piece of fish changes hands about 7 times between the moment of capture and the moment gets to your place. the sea food supply chain is long and fragmented with little accountability. the biggest losers in this broken system are the consumers who have no idea where their fish comes from, or often even what it really is safely. labeling in general has been found. unfortunately, to be full of miss labeling. the system is so tilted in favor of industrial fishing that even with catch, that is brought in by small scale. fissures is the value and there minimal profits are diminished. the industrialization of the seaford system is mimicking industrialization of our land base food system. we're seeing the squeeze and displacement of family fishermen and we're seeing a collapse of infrastructure. and once that infrastructure is gone,
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it will never come back. this was the foundation, not just of a regional economy, beautiful way of life. and it was an emblem of what was best about america, how people that were willing to work hard and come here and struggle could make a better lives for their children. we're looking at a shift in coastal america, like we have never seen the . i started in 1983 this year with my father on the on that side on the south end. or is that much my childhood? that's all exactly the same as a kid does. when it goes out in the lake and the canoe and his vision for pans,
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this with a rod and reel. is that kind of a feeling? the credit score right there? the jeep goes fishing is one of the most sustainable methods of catching fish and its impact on ocean ecosystems is a fraction of that of its industrial counterparts. but it's quickly becoming lost. our various casper sac is one of the few jig fishermen west and cody j fishing is one of the oldest fishing is not the oldest vision in the world. that is essence, it's a line flowing down the water with a couple of, of some very selective. you get over a school and if it's not the right fish, then you can quickly move you know, out of the time in the tides, right. and, and the winds see the fish and there are underneath the school. raise it up a little bit. the past you know,
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does to your office the over 95 percent the rockfish coming out of alaska is all for all going to that means it's called a large snaps with what they call rock hopper here. that drags on the bottom with these big tires that roll over rocks, sometimes tearing down pinnacles, tearing out for catching a lot of rockfish. that one's for, as well as other spaces kind of trying when it's done in its worst form, has of leveling effect and has a tendency to really just sort of strip away everything that's there, the carls and find it for, but also all the fish that are living in that particular area, generally speaking, a smaller scale operations, well managed is going to have less collateral damage than a large trawler that is part of trying area over fishing and reach the critical
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level in international waters in the late eighty's was the use of a new generation of unimaginably long. that's that stretched for miles. there were a 1000 boats fishing in the pacific with high seas drifting nets, 40000 miles of netting in the pacific ocean every night. they caught millions of birds, dolphins, wales, turtles. they caught everything. that's why, by the ninety's, somebody like me would feel motivated to be involved in overhauling the whole thing . i got photographed and went to the new york times. it instantly blew up. it was in newspapers all around the world. the united nations did finally ban those things from
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that fishing became a conservation issue. not just of allocation issue. the you have a guy like tim ryder losses and they were run an 80 miles to be able to catch a fish in a 30 foot vault. and question so many a night. so i went home wondering if this guy was coming back crazy on guys and all the time to get the fisheries going and then pushed out and pushed out who's one of the few guys is i see puts in the extra effort he just loves that. and i'm glad he is going on big about some votes here and built from scratch. one piece you know, from a mold all the way to the finished product. the next step, once it's done as well, wants to mote
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a trial. it get the kinks worked out and then go fishing boats like tim's costs $2.00 to $300000.00. and every trippy takes cost to me around $500.00 on a good day. he might land a few $1000.00 worth of fish, but that's before he pays his crew. on a bad day, he might not even cover his expense. the, there's so many times of life where your people don't believe in what they're doing and they just go through the motions. i'm passionate about when i do. i'm proud of the fact that we have a minimal footprint where we go. i know if i hit the powerball for $40000000.00 or a $1000000000.00 or whatever it is, i do exact same thing i'm doing right now. tomorrow. the
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fishing is peaks and valleys. pretty 6 can kind of like the sharps i guess. in the 19 ninety's, the need for conservation was finally acknowledged in new management and fisheries was established until been fishers were all racing to catch the same fish. at the same time, to address these issues, a style called catch share management was established and quickly to colt. i'm basically a fan of catch shares in a certain configuration which is the person who fishes owens a share of the allowed cash. they don't own a share of the fish in the ocean, but when the catch limit is set, they own a share of that catch. what i'm not in favor of is you can only share the catch, and then you can sell that to somebody else or lease that to somebody else. and you,
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you sit back in a chair and make money off what somebody else is doing. that's not an improvement on anything. i mean for $36.00 foot boat that employees will 2 or 3 people in the sun and then a couple of guys on shore run and fish around. you can save your 25 percent hit on your problem. i don't really either breaking even losing money, businesses like tens, he has to pay a landlord essentially for those fish. fishermen don't need landlords. they need to be able to go fishing for me and another fisherman that i know for leasing out the flanders. he's getting roughly what $75000.00 a year. that's pretty good. anyone at home, that's making money. and a lot of it, it has nothing to do with the business sucks. catchers for kindly gamble. some people did become fantastic stewards of of those resources. but unfortunately, a lot of people just became landlords, and they started renting access to go to work to the people who catch fish for
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a living. it opens the door for the pocketed sorts, if you will, to be the next inheritors. the resource is the majority of the permits and quote, a can be bought by only a few companies. and we're looking at a wal mart situation on the ocean. why don't you just give us the names of the 5 or 7 guys, especially all of this market. it is going in a private hands. and i think over time, the next logical inheritors of this resource are going to be corporations. for those who are other fed up, we've had enough with policies designed to consolidate policies designed to privatize designed to squeeze out or independent fishermen to join mean walking out . we're going to walk in and tell the public in china. right. and what's been happening, they voted today to allow for 7 entities to control this whole fishery. that the
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type of consolidation, that type of concentration of ownership is kurtz. our local economy is that depend on these working waterfront. and we need to go up the chain. we need to have accountability in this process, and this isn't working. and there's a select few people at the top that are making all the money. and they're making the rules and benefits themselves the,
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privatization came about for how that. at that point i was only in my mid twenties . i didn't really see it as a threat. i figured, yeah, will make the fisheries a for and there are always any guys to catch it. so yeah, maybe it's a good thing. i didn't know here too. after that, i could not get a job. so i was basically shut out of the how that fishery that really was the beginning of the end for the happy days and the small boat fleet, and kodiak. this is basically the waterfront of code. yeah. all the way down there is the boat yard for small boats that over there is the rest, the cannery row where you see the remaining processors, mostly all large corporate entities. things are really been i'm consolidated the afternoon. and various caspar that a local fisherman home for data kodiak. i'm also a president of the last to jig association who i'm representing today. we do not
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support any new management program in the gulf of alaska, a sector which monetize us officially research. the future of our fishing community depends on access the fishery resource. please maintain opportunity for the next generation of fishermen. thank you. thank you. there is the fishery management is the responsibility of regional councils across the united states. some have chosen not to use the catch here system and seek other solutions for conservation management. this is the port of port orford. it's one of the very few. dolly ports they call them where you're both stay on trailers and you're actually lifted in by crane into the open ocean. the is how we do it. it's pretty intense. what are the most unique things about?
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port orford is we're restricted in both size, 40 feet and under 50 ton and under, everybody has different opinions and they're independent of course. but because we have so much in common, what benefits need benefits? my brother, the biggest threat we have against the small boat community, is kind of multi faceted, the consolidation of quota, and the corporate mindset that wants to get the fish for nothing. it doesn't really take into account the needs of a small community. so this is why i bought this as the gold and i, if the plan is over time to have 10 big boats on the west coast, the catch 95 percent of the food. you know, i mean, that seems extreme, but it's not out of the question. the community port orford is pretty unique. population is 1200. between the temper industry and fishing. it's what it's all
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been about around here. this is the furthest the incorporated power in the continental 40 and then you buy a boat and you go further west. the everybody is of the life fishing when we all use the same type of gear. it prevents us all from growing into the other sectors of trauma and to tell him that the port orford fleet is limited to 40 votes, all restricted in their size and equipment. they carry with each boat holding a valuable fishing in the permit system. the permits are tied to the boat. if you don't have somebody to pass that on to in your family, you have to sell it in order to get the money. you need to make
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a 3 year goal in years. the permits do leave out of 4 offered fits less revenue for the whole town. every facet of business in this town is affected solely by our fish. we land between $4.00 and $5000000.00 worth of seafood here in port offered the. i mean, it's a big dam deal if that goes away, it will just lead to place dry. so it really has a lot to do with the health and wellness of the community to be able to have access to the fish. we're right here. i mean, we're looking at some of the richest grounds in the world. could you imagine not having access to that for a community? see me in the former mayor of saint paul island lives in a community of 400 people, solely dependent on fisher declining halibut stocks has meant that native fisheries
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have had to reduce their cash in the interest is maintaining the fish population. i guess right now i have probably 3 strings. i'm a little, i'm a little frustrated, right? we've got 4 streams out the we got a couple of good size like right now. so just to kind of day we want to have right here the over the years, seattle, base 12th lead has been operating in the bearings. see right in sims, backyard, us catch shares of halliburton, alaska are limited to fulton lines fixtures. so when these trawlers accidentally
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catch how the wind fishing for other species, therefore, to throw the fish back 5 and they're usually dead. these unintentionally cause fish are known as by couch. there should be no way we should be shut down because we live right here that everybody else that comes out of wherever they come from in america is going to be able to come up here and dish. no, not right. the delivering. see the bike, which is accounting for almost all it for it's available to be taken of the hell of it stops. these are industrial, but it's are distant water boats to fully prosecute their fishery. and the most economical way to go out there, set their nets, do on toes and just drove inside what they are allowed to keep the cost to them of during those how better of the size just costs doing business. thanks for come in,
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say one of the really great things about this bike has issue is it unites moves because it's really important to everybody that cares about the how that resource linda bank. and the fisher herself is the director of the alaska long line fisherman's association. in the early ninety's, she lived the 5 in which local communities successfully band trolling in southeast alaska. you had stuff in here, fisherman prowl ocean, leaving waste in wake despite hunger. how's that for headlines? the fisherman of southeast alaska had a long term concern about trolling. having watched the 4 inflates, operate right off our coast and huge decline and the eco system, and the rakfish and the black had and how of it. so this is the line of their catch per unit effort. so how much they were catching per toe when they were trolling for the species of rock fisco, pacific ocean perch. and then this is what was happening to the abundance of that
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fish. as a big part of our concern in the early ninety's, a u. s. trawler came through here, then took enough rock fish as bycatch to close down one of our local fisheries. or fishermen came to me and said if you can do one thing for southeast alaska and it'll be, you know, to close this area to drawing towards co, wrangell g. you know, every community and se, passed a resolution in support of the closure and submitted them all with the council. it was a very motion pack time. we were pretty inflammatory and no surprise people thought we were a little overboard with what we said. there was a huge pushback from national main fishery service and from the troll industry. i know easily at the time was sure that with this much support from communities and small but freshman,
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the counselor would do the right thing. it took another 5 years before they took x nicholas trawling. it was the largest troll band in the world at that time. it was a huge grass roots effort started by the fisherman, but it ended up involving everybody from the bottom to the top. the surface gets lost in the shuffle, where of, you know, against a 100000 pounds of fish quality doesn't matter. i've been told that by the buyers, why are you going to pay top dollar for my fish when you can buy something else and just label it whatever the for over
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a century the us as celebrated the efficiency in affordability of an industrial food system. that processes and preserves massive amounts of food for consumer that's included. see, and today there's an intricate international supply chain. the provides us with cheap fish, but the costs to the oceans, the fish, the small scale fissures and the consumer, or staggering. there's more than one good way to treat a fit. the main problem with the, with the seafood supply chain is set up right now, is that since that changes hands so many times, every time it changes hands a little bit of value is lost for the fisherman. the cleaning of the fish, but it keeps the flash nice and clean thanks a lot. higher quality product prior to going out on the sand lander,
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i was doing work creating the mobile app, trying to connect people with local seafood options. and during that time working on that project and realize there needed to be more options and it coincided perfectly with meeting 10 and fishing on about the this is not typical in the industry where the captain does a lot of delivering. and the captain is a fish car to get really sad to think about this area, having relied upon their fisheries and with a lot of important sea food, we're kind of moving that new fish mongers, our ideas directly selling fish throughout new england's kind of re establish what
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new england seaford really is, we want to have the ability to have a fish on our customers plate. they were swimming around 10 hours ago, which we can do cloud sustainably, the direct market approach. it has this differences, are gonna walk in with a bunch of fish off the boat. we're not going to have suit and tie and fancy delivery teams. the release of russian states never is as tight as one of the most sense community invest. in most all sense and up in the system must be the one else holes. question about this,
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