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few saw if anything constructive could come out of it. global leads were hers lead coupling together in groups in order to coordinate future policies and hopefully some of the decline was such cool was the g 20 another break? so for awhile they seem to follow a similar developmental paths have been now come to a fork in the road. we'll discuss that. i'm now enjoying by been on the sink. i just tried to direct her on breaks institute. it's good to talk to thank you very much for your time. take your time out. it's a pleasure to see you in person. likewise, now before we talk about break, send it to resend expansion or decision to expand. the rather i'd like to ask you about the 220, we just have it summit in india and this formats have many parallels. they were profiles to prominence by the, by the same of as, and the now it seems that they are also on different trajectories. even though some

of the main members restaurant china, india in brazil, south africa, all in both formats. what do you seeing is the difference in what they did arrive from participating in both on facebook? i think the word has come together to tank game via for hosting a very event for very your, for a very indian, the style, little more the style you can say last evening i just clicked on google to see something of that about due to india and the very 1st news was ocean preston's website. does it turn to the duration? is there any to, to me, this mess? i wish i has accepted it this. i mean, they're very happy with the different. even the time is media, they have come onto the stage when that is supposed to just signal for the words and the goal and bring it to 6 portions of was if it was at one place, i could just feel like maybe yes, somebody might been evicted, but the, you who's part of the world was a new tally. you know,

from everywhere we did myspace stance from 2 big guns is a, well, a lot of it. so that's an interesting move it in history or for my country in the last 75 years died. we see this to invest coming together. i'm actually not disputing that i think there is a huge respect for in the, in the russian. that's one of the reasons, perhaps even a political, a reason for posting the d 20 uh community care on the presidential website, but the absence of was present, present, and present. she was quite notable, and i wonder if you think it sounds, any signal also wants to present money because i'm in the present tutor for 11 to go a long way to the max before i comment on is it just the background and what is it 20 and how is different from the 7 or pics? i just would like to show it to that i'm starting in time out of the show for last 25 years. mom division is that the looters of china and russia. they're very much

focused on their loved for and up their own mission, their own country in order to shows mission. if shina stops growing, paused hill, the world going in a good school? you know, i mean with this thing, while i go to china as well as down, what happened is it 20? so without china, the adult to the shop. i think the, during the, becomes a, i'm to talk. this is, i'm going to kinda tell you. so why do you the to business when wishing the mark? because you know, uh they were not happy with this. it's what i observed. the news reports and media in 2 countries that very important walks assignments in, you know, not just of china and how long chung and hopping presidency has made some very important for the decisions. sam in the shop isn't putting that. they know what it is, new must have gone for the whole forest, and the fault is make for divorce into russia. so i think this lead is a very smart to focus on their people and their mission instead of just becoming a soul like this, you know, talking about the whole,

what is your country is not developing very goods. you know, talking about g trent and bricks too. much of going back to the issues and so we are an investor, very small, and i go say pressed and put them, spend 3 hours to explain. you know what's happening before it is the new growth engine over the way with all due respect, i mean the present with him is in charge of his own schedule so he can do both things as but, but he chose to invest peace times elsewhere. and i don't to give it to because of in india because decided by me some money that is more of a foreign minister traveling outside india then. and then bryan with, if it was a little while ago, i'm not missing any of the conferences. so being a democrat, i think we really want you any will for later as a focus on the issue of pollution, issue of missing development and economy, employment and session. not exactly how many contests you have. you're going to some big a, c o g turned into service. so you can flag, i think there's and put in was i know to go. can i ask specifically about the difference in these 2 forms?

because the data points of grouping i like breaks has a very substantial western law being the united states and manual. they're western countries um, naturally, and they are more interested in promoting the own agenda, the preserving the current state of world affairs, western dominated, political and economic system. and uh, the g 20 comes on the larger influence of the oh, of the west and lobby. do you seeing the opposite as all 5, both she and put them may have something to do with them. investing more image and not only in the own countries, but in other parts of the world. for me, it does give some spices in all to the west and media i look see is not going look at there are supporting and exactly the ways to solve is looking, you know, to divide and go to another. so if a tool to do bigger, you those reading audits and it will just give some it all kind of talk. sure, some it all bbc interviews that look you know,

the india and they're not happy with india until after the 25th. i don't see those kind of meals. so coming back to the y and z, 20 is very important for rochelle, for china. india, china is send a statement that the time is goal of, you know, i'm dizzy. the millennium build up in goal is very much matching with good trend to . that was the question of china is almost assuming all those started goals and india just as they've been off of them. if this one was, if it's a one to show one common future, i think, i don't think we're talking english in the studio, are talking to new the studio and basing the studio. we're talking about some common ones that react to make sure that we are growing all your tab in a good environment. and our employees use my eyes so that even when started to try, which initially is the combination of. so whether i wasn't john's word for the big some h r i missed a z 20. i think there's a lot of conflict as was the trend is like, i give you one example english, a language that does all about bruce,

letting them the whole dress. yeah. mix is about friday's. so bricks is more focused on salt salt on, on this part of was. so this is a very good example. the g 20 is really the most important. stood a grouping. i don't speak to scott, folks on adult good size it. i think that you should take binding deep mix just went in brazil. i participated in minutes. i'm is i, i'm not criticizing it. i'm just interested in exploring the approaches and i agree with you that it seems that bridge this specials this by the time the when used to play by the, by the us to and was but we use big thing is the way, all 40 minutes to see you know, quotes that open problem is you know what the problem would, what problem is the open problem. so it was regarding the status of time read, you know, the diplomatic language or the media is not exactly controlled by the united states or mr. so i think a realistic notice today that we said goodbye to boost and biased when it comes to

a guide to makes when it comes to media. when it comes to, if it's a 5 incidental, when it comes to the 20 i, you're saying that the twenty's also changing itself with them. and despite of having a very large rest and blah blah, look in a big group. the more diverse now than it was just like i would say you have data and goes there grouping. so no somebody like. so the son of somebody don't like the son of students. the 20 of 2020 most 21 of to if we can you and yeah, they would copies one group by us one by mr. macro on hidden loud edition journalist today. and there was a big this one daily. so you know there's other coping and you're all them and divided before and it should have been done victoria, so there's no, there's no rush and you want to come pick the really united the best and all so empty. obviously they were fighting with these are the gentleman's, the friends, the u. k. came out of the, you know, that the best see to see. so end of the day it was time for an issue. i know freak out to make policy that we know sure we can let you know global policies on climate change and finally said aleutians and died tourism. we were doing it at this time

pressing body members, and they didn't go with us, but they're happy with the, with mr. brian. mr. moody then mentioned the word to the shot and the final degree this, which is leading me to my next question about india. because india is a very particular case, both with brakes within brakes and within the g twins. and because uh, more than others is against intensifying antagonism, it tries to sort of freeze these harmonizing language and the summer with has to do with your spiritual and political condition, non violence, unknown alignment. but uh, yeah, absolutely. but um, we also leave in the times when the geopolitics is pretty of noxious. um, how long are you seeing? india will be able to sit on this 2 stools and don't you think perhaps if it's more harmonizing than the time skillful or perhaps that this has its own strategy, you should study? i think so. diplomats diplomatic language is quite uh for the i don't get it what

to say. you know, the good the size, the why do you know, but then it will give size the country. so for me of one thing is a clear even less to speeds less. everything pressing official, humans and buy me some will the example go to times ran him and talked about making india. so there's a lot of things which. 1 mission 14 is impressed with india and do even in china they, they like good the for, and we still frame the old books very dearly, you know, up to the, well, it seems a little research diplomatic world that it. so what i'm going to say oaks are not doing cushion that know whether we just want to be like um, in the middle of lean on the line. we have good terms with registers we have with tom sweet to me this year. but the fact is that, you know, i'm having a solid here. so maybe many people in india, the other services that shows that we do talk saying this, right?

and i'm saying this right in front of a studio is where is the green card? for example, as an a family, you know, other child and i hit someone. my mother was out there by here. so when, because there were some long, long time racial but in the population said no, no my charlie is there. can i do that, or is there any point inside the room? so it took us to as it was, you, thing on the bed, not me. just to tell the people that my child is wrong. but in this, i'm saying many indians, you know, and the sort of the book here, what happened and you know, they're not good to go. but the good come out and say you arrive during this time. that's as you mentioned and not only present, put it, it was very complimentary, refresh the morning, but present in by then it was to a very happy with the reception or she was given in the india and it's pretty clear and that seem to is being quarantined by the west, particular by the united states to become some sort of a counterbalance or a, me even maybe a bulwark against china. for now it's a, it's been,

is being balance. but do you think that americans get all for india anything to express to, to sort of record them more expressly into the western county? not at all. if anybody in the shows wasn't india for 75 years. this is not the 1st time. in fact, publish the manual also went to us and you good, very good. welcome and the like in deal because we said the colonial background out the colonized by the british vehicle, nesbitt vish. so to be honest, i spend some time in usaa, you're also sending us say they're like india. i'm sorry, i'm reading this, not every day when indians doing discrete other sheila's them started with in good was good and usa. so you know, the way to look at the tanks, so many americans and does they have some connection at all because of silicon valley because to begin with is super huge. so what i'm douglas is that we divided

already look at the problem in an engine america bought a degree in our defense equity is quite different. we used to buy everything from bradshaw, all the somebody's or the guys know the shows mode where to supply. i say it again. that is versus not able to supply the only officer we have is us it or froze. some guy, no other guns again take part of the shop. the tool should put boss of fighting india india. one standard is very clear. we don't want quite a while to point to we don't want. we saw i also started, i was young man, but in 90 and i was one of them is. so i don't realize the fall serious was gore was when i went to the school in high school. the courtyard was over like 1991. i went to the high school, not even as close as 10 years old, so i had no idea how was gore what, what, but when i speak to my teachers this,

it was very scary. the, the guys but going to as well so far are developing countries because we have to do business with us. yeah. we have to do business with us. it with china. but everyone is blocking sanctions noted. no. can i assist as many engines, businessman? they're losing money, they're also making money by buying minus, selling was, but they're losing money. so my, when did it was too excited? i is that no is not a single indian out of one point. 4000000000 indian was that the 2nd boys watch? well, i think the russians share this is variation for sure. and, but for the time being, let's take a very short break. we will be back in just a few moments station

the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit. this is 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals. what are you living on? mac, have very close propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is will be

the the, the, the welcome back to all the parts we have since been a lot of things i just had told the director of the sing of 3 experience. you can fit you before the break. we started talking about the, the feeling of injustice and you know, the desire to leave out of your own soul or out of your own collective soul. one way, say i, i think asia a size for many and they can so centuries was deliberately westernized. i mean, there was

a deliberate effort to change who those people were in india settle quantization in russia, in china, through economic incentives and sometimes political pressure. do you think at this point there is a as least realization in the west, the all these nations, as well as other nations, deserve the right to be themselves and develop as you know that history in their own situation require then anesthesia and india, philippines. maybe some one or 2 more countries, or like over some lies more than what we wanted. because despite regards independence in long, bad 4745, but it was not the 2 independence they made as part of the commonwealth. and they decided most of the time, the influenced our foreign policy would when we talk to home, we talk to assume there is something very defending issue. it was more a big thing that there, the bridge between this thing is the language, the premise,

the middle that you know, re speaking is so a week would be the bridge between any problem and the issue in europe. and that's why prime is a neutral game for the body. and concept space conference was proposed by indian delegates and they're not the admissions. endo china. this bid mom can vote hello is indo china or india was one of the main leader in the jimmy watkins is. and this in bundling, we really decided to go mode for the non 11 woman. so the headlines up to 20 in new delhi is that maybe india is coming back as though a small solution for those solids for the developing what of course. and you can see the big like india, they don't seem to become as some and busters, or some global lead is. so we invited for the big things, but in the other day, i am personally very good to go because in the eyes, all of us denies everything is in a copy it from a canadian american ad, you get it cause issues and which is not helping the people who live in something

like pies like we have been was so for me, china is a bond korea and all this in countries. the side to was so nice, but then they, you know, the ability to go. so there were some of them very far than this to you to immunize like it all is going in what direction it is. rest. amazing, but a primary, some movie and his team, you know, that serving the name of india. that's in the lot of things just because the thing that so india looks like the very it opened got the rest of those countries. so this and this move has been already a criticized not only by the western as well, i think also some and then do this. uh well, if you think decision, but sort of overtures to uh, in part of the indian, uh, name in the, in the native language. and they've been in the number of countries. uh, who did that. for example, church had changed his name to turkey and by the way, turkey also liked this matter for being

a bridge between the east and west. russia has changed its name, but the came back to its old soviet alpha. and what do you make of this trend? all for sort of not necessarily going back, but bringing some of the previous history, sometimes not very glorious history because uh the story of history is a, is there a controversial one but trying to sort of rely not only on the recent past, but also your grass roots a, i'm sorry, i'm not going to be incorrect here and i may have some problem when i go back, but i'm pretty a guest this move because us i had same similar issues in china. if you compare it and be able to talk, it's very different story because tech is a stomach republic. but india has the 2nd largest muslim population in the was we have cushions, bodies 10 different people. so the foundation of india is very different with the

foundation of walk as time and look what focused on is having problem. you know, you guys have a country just for one people, the one that lives in one country. so india should be india. and of that, but what does it mean? i mean it, is this a new republic over everyone is the quote and the evidence i'm using is a quote. we a 2nd or every language is a quote and all that's the in the i was born. does the india i dish to my story and said picking one city. and now if india is becoming just $15.00 to $1.00 language is one. the reason is very hard for me to speak to anybody from a free golf from middle is that india is example for the plural, diverse and sing. so i'm sorry, i come from a democratic country. i can size my go, i'm and that if you're doing it for an election for getting him to awards, does pretty goods. but if you attend the constitution of india. 1 maybe it's not

helpful google, india has a very good soft. 7 or india is not done with the power. it does not stop. uh, so you're going to expire, we're at the 5. but when we talk about the india in the shop, the people like crush the people like a different culture of plasma. people like india because they also india have go all where we have cushions. we also like the engine. so my point is that india is the most to diver scanty and good sleep, guntee it. and if somebody does, i do it all bent it in this one color of this not good to mess as well as speaking about diversity, or we need to come back to the issue of breaks expansion. and i know that the india had his own position on the expansion, the criteria. and the position i think was somewhat adults with china. but in any cases, this uh, least of new members, uh, argentina c o, p age of iran,

saudi arabia, and united arab emirates is possible many observers because uh, somebody expected other countries to manually, as the nurse picked in missouri to expect the intermission. yeah. and how do you understand these thoughts on motivations behind the selection? little the indian side was not really because there was no fam while called to expand the membership, even though it's not the shape of it anything that 5 ship while they were running late to come out with the exam and the lead us as them come on give a document, but um, and so it's a pretty good game. so the guys like in the, the, the different kind of population and present them full size is going for election. and due to corruption in salt to free go power card too. there's a lot of ball shooting, a lot of the buildings coming down explosion. i just realized that if it goes this way and if the president unfortunately is not getting elected. so he married to a very personal issue. so it's, it will be, i was his candidate and like that bush and putting also made cause to brainer. some

more the uh, 8 on came in like. 5 a know to, to is bag. i opened the news on id and i see that the, the fuel prices, gas prices had been decided together that it will not come down below 80. so, you know, the price in india is very high. so i believe everything is what it takes. everything has gone, all makes this. uh, the good thing about this is that uh they do it every using. so you gum ordered to guntee of browsers, gum ordered to guns is a south of you gotta get 2 guns is empty. i gave you e as i'm going to, i'm going to inform is too, so i don't take me exactly what to, but when i speak to the defender, guys, they told me that everyone of the tries there was. so nobody was detected, you know, just to get now all of these, a founding members of the brakes. uh, they are very different, but they have one thing in common which is silver and to the ability of silver and

independent decision making on domestic affairs. and the inflow of some influence degree of influence globally regional powers, by the very nature of more limited than disregard them the, then those always free to do what they want even about own home. how do you think the inclusion of 56 more members that the increases that more than doubles the size of the girl? how do you seeing is will change the internal dynamics? it's really just because, you know, the idea of break was given by a british economy is stand alone backend because of the us part of the suitcases. we also got impacted. so we said why not re uh, it was the premise of pinnacle for decided winery. we have better gordon mission. so it started vision put in said to all the business man in the congress, don't fall in the trap 2nd time. what do you mean to say is that you don't have to do? what do you mean to say that? if i give it good to you that you know,

we have to have our own product. so system of the she always kept growing. china really good growing and we always give growing. so don't use and to others, make us bureau and dollars. let's do business and how can i see and nobody can impact us. so we really don't have any problems. a guy says if we are dealing with the who both. so all 6 port for the portion of china is business is in the, in the rules and route you on india is also bring on was $5.00 to $10.00 boss. and so of back to question like 10 go. what does that lead to full? gunther is where the best guns is for the big as for the day, one is because indian in china is gone and me is understanding going to me is, is all about it going to be a grouping of the words. politics is local enrollment says good at in that says the for orders, they've done this very well. sure. but they know, signing up really wanted to bring. so to go and salter, because my link, i'm sorry, is this was going to be going to be the, the, the, be the people with, you know,

as a so mr. armstrong is to say it doesn't walk low. why does, what are the media? this is for the last time, you know, see what disabled big, this is the talking shop. but now the thing is no more talking shop. now, why? because we are talking about good and see about said most, that's it. so expensive is bored, no doubt. but you know, it doesn't have to be, i do to assess what breaks i. so i'm very focused on 5 countries, but not if you ask me anything about the tool for you. i bought a didn't to not, i'm sorry to resist the blah, blah, blah. well, you will have, i guess more war, her voice in the, in the, in the near future. we have to leave it there. it's been great talking to you. thank you very much and thank you. of course i'm, i don't think we go word many topics and thank you for saying hope to hear again all the worlds apart,

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