is destroy the american economy, so there is a boomerang, the the hello and welcome to cross stop or all things are considered id, little about western solidarity, which you bring, particularly in eastern europe, is being tested, the flood of cheap ukrainian grain into the u. as in raged farmers and terrified politicians facing the voters, ukraine is behaving like a drowning man willing to take down their so called friends if they have to the

to discuss these issues and more enjoyed by my guess, martin j america sees an award winning journalist and commentator and in budapest we cross the door to 7. well, it is a pump cast, right? the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. are gentlemen across socrates effect, and you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with jump at george in budapest. well, it's not so happy in the caribbean. family right now, particularly nato world here, over the last few new cycles, which is a whole uh, without tremendous fact. but with the, the bullet including the bowls and the ukrainians, but also within your, in slovakia and about brussels um policy, um, importing or allowing ukrainian grain into the european markets which of course effects the, the eastern part of it most. poland is come up with some spire re language. what a difference a few of what a difference green can make. george greene county these make it a little different,

particularly if you have an election in the you go bingo, bingo. exploit. so is this a flash in the pan, or is this something you have this thing that is a flash in the pan simply because um the bonus of people uh, by no means uh it includes the mouth as well. i mean that way. the polish electra it is very similar to the european and the american electra. this is a rule that has been foisted up on them. and now there is a 3rd party, but there is a motion on the scene of them to consider a body that is opposed to explicitly opposed to opponents involved in your crime. so um, already escape the, you know, the leader of the law and justice body knows that he's in a lot of trouble and he's suddenly playing the police. national is got the name or

weapon reserve on it was only what am i phoned isn't sending anymore weapons, but he didn't say that bowling will cease translating a web of some elsewhere the ukraine. so he's just saying something he's not going to do, which he's not doing any way. um, however, it will, it goes back to something we said many, many times here. i mean, this project is in the lead project. i mean, there's just no enthusiasm anywhere for this war and, and the off to the election, you know, whoever wins whether it's a to 6 um, you know, civic platform, body or, or more of us get lower. joseph bodies both will continue as before, because later we'll continue as before and what's it, what's it also remember that the uh, the, the nato secretary general was in new york the the other day. and he's come up with a new ration now for a while. they continued when you're great,

it's all about china. that's it's all about china. we have to find in ukraine because wayne hodge can either. george can either read my mind or read my notes, but thanks to be a good a stores i'd always happens to meet with you martin. this is busy in the same vein here. i mean squared, we're beginning to see ruptures. here, domestic politics is colliding with the foreign policy imperatives. they'd come from brussels in washington and the polls are on the front of the line and they're literally on the front line here because i lived there for a long time. i lived there for over a decade and, but when you don't annoy the farmers, okay, you just simply don't do that and they're making their voice are larger, a part of the country that has a huge cultural set of boats us which need to be taken into account and that one thinks of problems as well and a few other countries. yeah, i think the story is interesting one, because on this show that we've all been asking us to those and the recently few months, no one is the tipping point where all the,

the big cracks that will emerge in this coalition. and um, some was estimated countryside person where this winter we're talking about, let's just announce that it's not going to continue the aging subsidies for books. it's for older people, it's gonna slash them quite dramatically so that there's also another um fracture. i think in the credibility of the whole project, but this seems to be a tipping point. it seems to be that even if we don't take the rhetoric centers and even if we say look, okay, so the election and um, you know, this, the, the, the pos policy needs to p law slopes is from the fall, right? you know who are opposing the war. so if we go beyond the narrative and just dismiss it simply as you know, fire we took to get the vote is that on but doesn't bug well, even if it is only a narrative because the narrative resume is still an awful lot of people and i don't the question now the leaders will be ask themselves on the evolution brussels particularly stuff on the land who must be literally

a pulse. right now. worry when this whole thing kind of really a home together because she's got your people election smell just the in 2024 and one is the public story. tell us, it tells us that there was no democratic process whatsoever for the claim to. nobody was consulted. you know, and you know, he wasn't a most hotline and supporters of the project didn't have to admit this, knowing that this or it was in the coming days, you know, and this is what you get when you consult people. when you have consult the masses and it becomes a lead has project, finally they get the side of a you. now we'll be looking at this and realizing can we contain this? if it's just upon only know it, could we have a rogue state? oh no, not contributing any more, but, you know, allow me anybody else to go through it and i'm a need to hold transportation thing. i don't think they come, but even if they felt was that they could contain it. you know, it's going to be a diverse slippery slope now for the you running out to the 2024 european bottom

entry elections where the you find will, will be the only thing in town. that will be the binary vote yes. on in church, i mean a lot of this, you know, the b, but it's heavy rhetoric, binary rhetoric, in a lot of it's being directed zelinski himself. i mean, when he was at the united nations, i mean, you know, he's the panhandle learn cheap and he dislikes. he feels that he has a privilege position because washington and london and brussels back came up. so he gave me a, he is not getting the hip it to and i think that's really getting me, but we're a lot of the x from the, from the polls. i agree with george. i think this is a flash in the pan. it's this get through this election here. there's going to be no major change, of course, but me the, the optics of it is, you know, as lensky can uh, call the tune and everyone taps that doesn't go down well, particularly when you're facing boat or storage. no, it doesn't the but you're absolutely right about the landscape. let's keep in mind

what is the last game may his speech of the un general assembly? it's all to in general about european so when it's a sufficiently supportive of you, but it is a single out the polls, i mean suppose because 5 and said, oh is that, let's get subtracting of the lenses accusing us of being the kremlin cats, bull. so episode the, that's why i think it's a flashing the public a colon, pick the spot, it needs the landscape said colon, this of this, then you can say, oh, what was the landscape solid bone? and nobody saw that it with a view to this election. but then the other thing after going to keep in mind is that what, what else has been going on? but we have now these attacks on suffice the pool? um ms. uh, this is the lease uh, misses delivered by the u. k, which were very controversial when, when the u. k. decided to deliver these messages and it was blended directed by the americans. i mean there was an american reconnaissance aircraft in the vicinity. so essentially the americans with directing this attack. so you say ok, you know,

we can have a loss about bowling and so i'm asking what else is going on? i'm going to send you an america is attacking really to the territory. it's not a, this is even a longer attacking the don't bass related to, i think russian territory. that's a very serious business and the game as we talk many times before. something's going to break it because it is because i want to rush. if you're a pro russians themselves, see that we are being attacked here by the americans. i mean, you know how, how long can we tolerate this? well, and also, i think, quickly see, with zalinski is less than stellar visit to the united states. of course he was addressing the general assembly, but he did meet with american politicians. josh colleague came out of a um, behind closed doors, a meeting with zelinski and or a with who. it was an internal,

a congressional meeting with them and see what happened later. but um, i mean, he came out and said, um this is it forever war? i mean they are not giving. is that now like and telling us now what we do expand this and expand that then we'll get this. he said, no, we're just gonna keep spending. know, josh, all i need is an outlier right now in american politics. it's not gonna change the outcome of the $24000000000.00 vote. they will go through mccarthy as usual, capes on everything, but i mean, they do. josh holly is saying the quiet part out loud. martin is that this is inc. everything is going exactly to play and actually we're yeah. and um, but i think the overall components now with the new republican polity and also amongst the lead, generally in america to concede the things ongoing. that's one of those blog and things con, continue as the interest to go to the bank. and that's the rationale to keep spending money. well, if it's not working out right,

then we have to spend more money. that's the logic. now once you pick the life me up to the, i think i think enough people are waking up to, to have to realize that that's not real estate. we count repeats of kind of stuff. you know, i mean, the absolute policy of, of kind of done how it was presented to the american public. i'm reality off it, you know, the corruption behind the 2 trillion dollars of industry spending and who gains a new one from those contracts. we don't want you to again, i think that's a great through those steps of now, which is growing and america, i'm just a couple days ago for the policy publish that article which question the morales of ukraine will know. it wasn't really, i hit job own zalinski or ukraine, but i mean, it was hardly anything in the piece which actually articulate to headline. but the fact that like a roman had learned that the family could actually suggest that it's hot. now to make these morale stand up the case for you credit and credit and well, you know, i think not scanning, i think was i'm, i mentioned and um, you know, unless you didn't have an easy time in america this time, you know,

honestly i agree with george then when he, when he mentioned that to him, that the agent really took a particular swipe at the polls. but he is beginning to panic because he's realizing that when the pose mentioned that they wouldn't phone anymore, i don't think it was serious. i think, well that was saying what the, what he was say, the prime minister was that to him. we can't do it in a short time. we have to re um, ourselves. and that is the same case for many, many western european countries. their homes stokes on very, very low. you know, i'd like to do it before we go to the break george of ukraine. there is no long term this only now, george. yes, isn't it now? and um, and that's really the image with the elections. politicians of loan to be very clever when it comes to election, so it may go to the right noises when it goes to election and then afterwards it's all low. but remember, when in 2018, you know, for 2 years the democrats have been binding on about trump and russia. russia refer,

refer, refer russia, and then it was dying for mid terms. suddenly everybody talked about health care, health care, and that was good help the selections, what health care health care help can no one mentioned russia. democrats, one boom, back to russia. is the very good that know they know what the boat is when they know both of them turned off, i told them at rupture, there was no boat either like, you know, they knew the, the, the pressure pressure rush is always on the back burner because it's going to be pulled out again, obviously in the next election cycle. jennifer, i'm gonna have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the

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i'm peter lavelle. this is the home edition 3 mind you were discussing some be on this the okay, let's go back to martin america's. it's already been mentioned in this, in our program here is a really well i was gonna say some of that maybe not. so subtle change of narrative . so basically it's to pro, the way i see in stilton bird again, either as a gaffe or, or he was intentionally cited but he just admitted. yeah, this, the, the russians went into your crime because of nature expansion. very explicit about it. okay, you can't misinterpreted that. and then george took the wind out of my sales book saying is all about china. so it's really interesting. so you don't have to, there's, you don't have to say, okay, there's no moral ground anymore. it's not about democracy. it's about had gemini, though they don't use that word, but that's exactly what it is. and so since

a project ukraine, well, it's not exactly working out as planned, but it's part of the larger picture because we have to fight the russians in ukraine. if we want to be safe from china, it's a, it's a logical extension to keep the of the, the current narrative of having a new cold war. and this time it's russia and china together market. yeah, i'm switching the fold. it's, it's a locate which doesn't really at all, you know, we have the same problem and in america is we have in britain and, you know, we want to do great trade for china. we want to get close to china. and yet, every now and again, it suits all needs to do, even though there's china and to say these, they're very fiery. i'm things against the chinese, a chinese having a hard time at the moment, the economies and games as well as it showed us affecting a lot of people. but this idea that we got a war with china is some, is lawrence very well, right. and because that seems to be the only way that the west con, carry on with a cheryl to carry on with destruction. the vote is away from the biggest subjects

to pick a needs at home and keeping the corruption go and keeping the racket down. cause will, is a reckon, you know, but when we, when we ever get the i'm, i'm not sure. i think there's a lot to be done. so i felt mean that this idea um that was this very in century quotes from the department of ship out there that you can bring in the tronic my, you know, it reminded me of the choke, hopefully, of the wealthy businessman and he was only york with his wife and his girlfriend to us and forwarded to the law so and he throws the rope to his mistress and he's off laser. why? and he said, well, because the wife would understand it. i'm trying to watch the recitation ship. if the interview credit is either, if we go through the roku, you kind of, you know what all the loyalty is. now with the argument though, is it to its own people, its own demographic. also, it has all the big on your opinion project to it's

a little crackly. it's not just the opponents lack of support. elect less to support for new credit, was also lack of respect to reverence. who was that you go check. they've just just dismissed this, but this of the lifting of the found on a, you a grand, you know, the just, you know, the, we, so we kind of it a number of these, your pin union countries just do their own thing when it suits them. and i think no issue about pulling them out is withdrawing the spotlight on a new subject. we're just going to resonate with other member states as well, which is a net who comes 1st. is it the people of the member state, or is it the loyalty to fidelity to this big project, which is by much an experimental one, but a unit is, this is about votes. is this, this is, this is you can get more groceries to this. it's about, you know, keeping it, but the dilemma is here, but the, the is the dilemma i, i think it's spot on when it comes to the i'm going to go to george now. but poland

doesn't want to lose. um, its a sending position within nato because this, it's very important that they're going to be finding that brussels about just this reform it all, you know, all these, you know, that's the, that's, that's the, that's not going to change. but the for the, the nato is foreign policy imperatives. will truck, okay. and the polls know that that's why they couldn't, you know, they control shade every once in a while, but um they were handling to replace a replace germany and france as a top of the totem pole in nature. that's absolutely right. i think that's, that's the key. same thing among the polish leaders. that's why they don't really care that much about the farmers except that there's an election coming up and they have to pay attention to that. otherwise they're out about that. but they have a big a deal political agenda which is to restore colon 2. it's a glory to be the leading power on continental europe. and it's not that difficult . now, germany just seems to be faded away. i mean, sergeant schultz is,

i have no way to be saved. i'm really in a bad buck. i mean, was a flaming certainly wasn't. he wasn't seen at the general assembly. well, you know, he was no, no am to say they were little. i couldn't bite. and speak so you know, there's not no one there. so, um, so it is a, i'm in the, in a babel up was the same and as far on policy, my house instead of all over the place is one thing one day. and that makes a follow him is explicitly saying we are the leading power on the continental europe, and we are america's leading top here. so if america wants to go on exhausting its influence over europe, come to us, going to come to work. so, you know, is it where it is that it's really a brilliantly dovetails into what's for bo, which politicians have said that ukraine should not, in salt. poland. okay. is right in line with what you're saying because poland is representing the,

the hedge amount. we are the name of the voice there and if you want to get, if you give respect to the united states, you must give it to us. ok. not that if it's earned or anything, but we're standing, we're tucked away and nothing. they weren't very clear. ok, martin, do the same thing here. you know, again, this is, i don't, i don't think politicians in eastern europe care about their farmers. i think they all care about where they are in the pecking order of the e. u. nato are construct, okay, because they're all looking for the next job. a book. yeah. i mean, you know, what happened to the vin check. okay. i mean, the people who bought. okay. so i think it's that this is more of a geo political play. and to show that, you know, you can't mess with poland, you know. and then i think of, of course, some of them watching is calling zelinski is people and telling them don't, don't assume them in the world trade organization and things like that. it's counterproductive. but it's kind of like in the soprano 0, tony,

everyone's allowed to show these, you know, he's the boss more. that's a sure. that's a good question. i love this. the problem is the 2nd. all right, well the moving aside from the surprise, i think that the best thing that i, i take away from this, the thing that sticks with me is the, the messages from post on whether they are genuine or whether they're just pop full . um, just to go on people's but it's the messages, the in the future, the best scenario is the we will reduce the funding to the your time or reduced. so i'm going to spend 2 because we've got around problems of time. and i think if the, if the pos stays empower and it gets its coalition and order, it doesn't have to do any of the details. it will have to pay some. so that this problem is you call, i think general joe sort of suggest the, the, the, the, this, the not, there's nothing the to, to keep some, to keep to, to put this for the, for the running a lead to actually stick to that problems. but there will be something it will have

to be some payback, i think so the options are we owned to reduce imagery, spending towards i'm going to share it towards you credit or cut it will together, and that's where i think will be after october, the 15th it'll be some reaction, i think we can expect something from the poster. what can we expect from europe in union with you've got these renegade states like pound it into a just literally sticking to bring this up to the entire uh, you know, um, architecture, the opinion and everything that it stands for by, you know, disrespecting, these are you rules that congo on those to be a ration from europe in unit. i don't know. we'll see. i think debate nato membership is a very powerful position. george jump in. yeah, i think so. why then when you say the rules, when the you broke the rules in the 1st place by lifting the tyrants on a ukrainian brain. i mean, the whole point of the is the common angry cultural pause. and the whole point of the common agricultural policy is to protect your being from those from cheap uh,

food stuff from the rest of the world. so it was the you that 1st broke its own rules and everyone accepted this until the phone was rebel, the ukrainian, the switch makes your brain is bid for the you even hold it. yeah. the like, it's never going to be in the you and it's never going to be in nato. okay. alright gentlemen, we're rapidly running out of time. the name of, of name is program zalinski watching zelinski, george citrix digit. uh, i found his address and the way getting crazy and media presented it is um, well it's, it's, it's just a textbook case. and really she bad propaganda. what am i saying? as zalinski, according to ukrainian television, i'd say what is addressing the general assembly, keywords in the audience, okay. he's pulled off something, but no one has ever done before being in 2 places at one time charge, which this is a remarkable, interesting lady was also in canada. i was addressing the following thing,

kind of the and along side zelinski was a 98 year old, the old codger who was fighting for your brain in independence in world war 2. the news guy so breathless explained actually he was fighting for the nazis. so they went to canadians left the ro is one of the but old. c 90 years old. yeah. he was fighting for the nazis. i don't know whether they fully understood it. well, they just don't care. probably they just don't care anymore. well, i don't think they know any more. okay. i, i display, you know, the, me, it seems to me that the new innovation officially as the russian was the great enemy during the 2nd world war, this is what they are priming of western audiences to believe all the rest of it. oh, that's just hollywood stuff. martin, yeah, and i think unfortunately that's part of the use crept down on freedom of speech, how it's making it harder and harder for journalists actually to the work and write the stories which tell the history as well. you know,

and this has been something that was something going on for quite some time and started years ago. i remember writing an article about the 1st um, the 1st discussions in the bottom on about, about finding out to, you know, how, how can we, we put all the out of the spotlight because the, you doesn't want anybody questionnaire. it's narrative. it doesn't want anybody asking the tough questions or just wants basically a, a certain amounts of, uh, the media who are just following the to, to the, the now to, i'm doing this to another fate you know. and i think those photos of the insurance is that the only thing is, is part of the pool and slip each other as well. it's just not subject very close to my house, but there's no, you know, it's getting was the screwed is not tied to, you know, it's more channels to being arrested. no gentle is a big facing legal actions, but just simply reporting from the other side, just for simple reporting of what rushes to it towards the or even having a point where they don't they want to,

they don't want to admit george to give the last 15 seconds, they don't even want to admit, there is another side, these issues go ahead or the they don't. and that's why they've now adopted all sorts of, uh, legislation. i mean, you're in the u. k, you have the online safety bill and they, in the you, you have this online, the digital act, or whatever it's called, which is too bad. a speech that, you know, challenges the narrative. i mean, you can always wrap it always because we're banding date speech or you know, where it goes, falls narratives, right? gaines, this information against russia. but essentially they want to make sure that the alternative viewpoints of suppressed as the case is heard here. that's all the time we have, gentlemen, i think my guess in america and in budapest where i think our view is but watching us here at our teach the next time we remember press stop rules, the

russian states never as tight as i'm wondering. the most sense, community best, most all sense and up the speed. what else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians to day and split the ortiz full neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the $76.00. what question did you say stephen twist, which is the, it says 2060 numerous monuments to serve you as soldiers in poland,

ukraine and the baltic states have been destroyed all vandalized fish their stuff by pharmacy. certainly within yeah. i'm not sure. or even some others could i skip everything. so that's the most on my page. it's especially almost 3 of the police government denies the rule of soviet sonya is in the victory of a naziism. and is it raising historical memories of world war 2? is the 40 percent of your story, although it did seem the non c regimes of trustees would remain thinks in people's consciousness, but have a but as long as russell phobia is profitable and brings dividends, you are willing to have a to rewrite the cost. yes. yeah, i don't think up the i'll provides leaving a message, i need to see things because it looks like so i need october 30th the.