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ation so no, he wants to keep its jobs so they have to say the right things. but there's great divisions and much more. so the ground level where people, i mean, the economic consequences of the sanctioning of russia. i just planning a now in terms of higher unemployment and people can't afford food. i mean the food prices have gone up so much. there are many, many, most of the 41 percent battalions couldn't afford us on the holidays here. many of them are like in the policy, it's is fairly serious so. so the stirrings of anger and protest just for this happens. but of course there's no, there's no vessels for that. there's no structure, there's no apologies. he couldn't ready take that for because all of the main parties were co opted long ago, 5 brussels, the sort of sentry split, send chris, right, lookalikes. so, you know, the actual form of the european union,
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all the project, or even a serious analysis of why i made so many mistakes, that by to crate, we made the mistake of sanctioning russia made the mistake because thinking that this was all going to come right in, in, in, in a few weeks made the mistake of getting involved in the proxy will with ukraine. and made a huge mistake in games pursuing this and formulating language and formulating expected outcomes that are actually going to hit back like a boomerang. them hooked them more because they're not going to get you know, rusher isn't about to collapse either economically. politically or culturally. in fact, it's cold, stronger during those process of sanctions and they're trying to think europe has got a lot poor, a lot of read them very much for the zip codes. medias. sense to ship where your
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speaking to be from the official medias. censorship in the european union, of course, in, in britain as well. but the signs of defense in the united states. i mean, even the silver book of new york times showing the fake news that rusher inject a market with. it was, in fact, it looks like the lensky force is getting civilians in, in don't yet. how easy will it be? while, as you say, western europe just sits there? we've many people dine this winter. how easy will it be for the united states to de couple from of, i suppose, west in europe and from the policy given that it has managed to do so very well was in regards of failure in afghanistan and so on. it did manages to do the switch quite, quite easily. doesn't that historically as well? europe is divided and it makes it much harder for, for washington to go ahead because a narrative is always be, you know, nature,
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always united in your nature is together. that's no longer true, there are deep positions, both at the military level and also increasing the political level about that. but that point you made about the new york times. you know, these things don't happen by accident. i mean, the last time zealous keys came to work came to washington. you know, this was too too much for us. welcome in congress. and he was a hero and he was a sort of celebrity. everyone wanted to shake his hand. this time it was a bit different. so when the, when biden spoke in the us, at the general assembly, you know, there was a policy in reference to your crime, but most of it was about reforming the world older and advise the security council and the brakes and how to actually change well order and yes, so was it a reference to, you know, where with ukraine, but it was born to place it plus and it was nothing and they looked so
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great. and, and christ for them. i mean the, the, the ukrainians were really unhappy. lensky had a sort of angry sort of grim look on his face and the others did as well. and then, you know, the writings on the wall hold on one to you've agreed to, to meet with him. it was agreed to meet with him in the us. um, you know, when he did speak, i asked the assembly. i don't know the exact numbers, but i mean, it was also easy. yeah, i saw the reverse shots that was very interesting. and of course, it lets you know what, addressing congress, either all of these congressmen who are being enrich guarantee or these, the donors, the backs them having to enrich from the companies from this conflict. i'm, well, you mentioned sideways. so it is quite important. the sort of signals and sign so you know that we haven't shifted yet,
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but we are shifting in and washington is shifting um, just as your of is sort of the sort of robert crab like sort of trying to find a way for to. but i mean, yes, it was quite important the symbol, some of the, the change in the change in the tone as well. yeah, i mean, you know, as i say these things a career often washington, they don't happen by accident. this wasn't clear signal to zelinski. it wasn't just, you know, pull, you know, pull reception pulls the landscape. this was intended from the new york times piece to the reception at the assembly. and also was, you know, no, no, no, no, no, congress, this time, no signing of a flag and everyone sharing and right now, you know, this is the saying, i mean, look, what happened, the g 20 meeting went ahead. so lensky was not invited the last time he
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was the was no, so let's keep that. and even in vilnius, the source. so overall, the full long cycle on the margins of the g 20 gathering to discuss who the nature and g 20 discussing the future of the project to crate. so the big shift and how are they going to get out of it? well it's, it's to, to exercise that's the relevance to vehicle. so they, they don't seem to be able to check out of the hotel or do you credit the culture it goes because you're always welcome to come forgetting i, which is always difficult. and it's, it's different, it's going to be additional for everyone. i mean, you suggest points back to your a budget. i mean, for the united states, particularly it's difficult to get uh, because they keep talking that they want to phrase with conflict and they want to
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just simply a see saw along the constant construct line is around i should just have been told from so then schemes we need to learn to live with the call and say we need to learn israel is it will we have prepared for a very long time, like in israel, for example, we can live like the that was that i know well that's yeah, but that's nonsense. i mean, the quite incapable of living like that and let's see, americans are prepared to finance it. depends new york ends to, i mean, the money is a, is all expended in front of autism and i mean, the forces of the decimate. they have almost no shells best. but the point is, you've gone, you know, you've handled a new, a new on me from amazon. it just doesn't work like this. i mean, you, you may have to grow for a generation, but they've really lost so many man, maybe up to ha 1000000. dad. it's really, i mean it's tragic,
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more than anything else. it's really tragic. it's all these young men have been sent off to that. that's works for good. i'll take said the general assembly. good all thinks in washington that they be fighting right up to the last moment. the chief of defense stuff of the, of the premiums say they can probably just as i continue for 30 days, small, 3040 day small. but after that, they won't be able to continue any offensive at all because they're wrong. i mean, you, you know, you, you, you need bodies. there's no point, have a weapons and tanks given to you. if you don't have bodies to drive the tanks or the whole weapons, and then getting to that point which is a point really of complete spaces. i mean, almost as if you know, or when he was stung by a scorpion, just different things, thoughts. i knew you were just paralyzed and they're getting very close to that.
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does that mean the end of the war? well, it depends which war we're talking about in terms you'll be understanding, the assessor, the less, if you, how to the greater to out in the sense that the less i do is the, the military war inside you. crazy. well, i mean that's probably coming to an endo lo, we may see another chapter because russia has been diligently preparing another chapter to it. it's used as a period of things sort of offensive square ukraine without success as being by me is head against the defensive florida. russia, russia has been quietly doing that as being costly renting a manufacturer of shows is drones over across tank. steven and accumulates and it looks as if a ready and been delivered from the stall, piling these weapons and there will stop hiding that cruise. i mean,
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you have the headlines, worry about the blacks, the fleet being damaged, some of the big lensky victory. well, how did they most do that? why was there in that field from which to launch attacks on. so that's the bull, as well as they. i mean they haven't been shutting, they did destroy all of the storm shadow munitions recently, but the burner smith at the break. yeah, no, the breads rushed them some more if they still go to any. but yes, i mean, yeah, visa, annoying to russia, but then i'll just teach it can any way. i mean, they hit one landing cross late damage to submarine with uh, after sending 10 christmas hans and, uh, 3 go through, out of the 10 did some damage, but in the, in the, in the bigger picture of so well, i mean, it's a pin break. i mean, you know,
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the russians just have to bite the bottom left on it and say, you know, is the sign x ray of someone who is desperate not assigned to someone who is in a powerful position that you get around to doing this. these are just all thinks that they look great in the western press. oh, you know, headlines and some basketball being attacked. and so, but it, it doesn't really do much and they are um, taking stronger measures against it. and, you know, as it will be, the will, the moment solves the will be another launch of missiles we're waiting to see in the winter. i think it's quite evident what we have very much is that, you know, across the russians here in terms of telecom channels and chat shows on television. these everyone is rarely calling on the government to say. so let's,
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both the models you need to do for the for the week on the 50 wallace. they need to be for the rest of the 1st phone number the the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. if the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also
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a pursuit. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to be living on that. we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. so more quite since asked the better the answers will be the
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the welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here without us to correct former british diplomats and founder and current director in the baby based conflicts for him. how soon we were talking i think you were mentioning zillow's me in the 1st hop. i want to get onto his comments like perhaps into you have with the nazis that i'll give you a a, but i was gonna mention biting since we were talking about him. and he was on the loan with zalinski more to come from the impeachment of joe biden, media narrative in the united states. and i don't know how well it will be a ripple in western europe, which is also funding this conflict of the bible by an impeachment that if it is reported daily on us television could make a difference. it probably is, i mean, the democratic party is in the isn't panic at the moment. not just because of the that is going to be extremely damaging they expect. because it's increasingly
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obvious to them that he's not a credible candidate, a tool. and the, you know, the larger majority of, of the democratic supports don't want to see him as a candidate for the presidency. but there's no alternative. they haven't got a, you know, sort of standing ready. but the frames are, are in some sort of agree. yes, and that's why it's going to, by saying impel the democratic um, the dnc, the national council, one. i seem to get away from ukraine for the rest of the election to concentrate some other issues. i mean, obviously they kind of concentrate and the ones that they think will help like abortion policy, but mostly, you know, and for them. and the other thing very warning us of the economy is pending bad. and they is out as being can to people, you know, information is going down from 93 percent. well, if you believe this isn't the old saying, i've got
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a bridge to sell you. it's not done. lights out to the fate goes to be manufactured and being sort of massage to keep it down by trying to supply oil from the strategic cause of kept the oil price down, put pressure on you said the u. s. has 20 days of from this through to anybody. that's right. that's what they've got last. if they have to, if they have to use the strategic use of to run the country, it would run out in 20 days. so, i mean, the, i mean, there's a lot of stress on the democratic party and they don't really know how to do it. and, and equally, they all, you know, there are forces that the, the, the, the state to the security state is determined to stop from, from ever being allowed to be president again. and yet he is far away the most popular leader in the it, we're pumping the others. it was sort of post office,
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you know, was a few like if he didn't style, i mean a training miles behind the us already seeking to jail him. cool is here, so well, at least to get a guilty died, then probably drill and then you go. so the wild card, those kennedy who's very popular and is a sort of the sort of cross party support take case. i mean, so many of the trauma people support a candidate for he's going to be talking truth. i mean, he is very, a very much knowledge for the fact that here's the person who actually says it has it is. and so can sort of intersect between parties between crosses, between left and right. it's, it's sort of new phenomena taking shape in the united states. the democrats are also very frightened about that. yeah, i understand that kennedy has no uh,
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security detail as a biden's decision and there was some kind of attack. so between the attempt to jail a jump and that perhaps as, as a nation on a land from a family who was famous for assassinations and worrying democracy over there. but yeah, back to the village, the, the battle mt a because of the nature the media, the battle was, well, booting this over because as a cool in the offering and use of being writing however, that there is a battle between the i suppose i call the nazis and loosely and that, that side of uh, the ukrainian, uh government in kiev. so could that explode at any moment? yes. any time that can explode because it's become, you know, increasingly obvious to the military. that they thing let up, the primrose, paul, you know, they'd be sending, you know, a young man,
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a new law offices. i don't care who they are doing, like sending mail to that dest, unnecessarily, from the political military game. so there's increasing dissatisfaction in the military cause of propaganda, or as pride to keeping. so this contain during this period. but that's so much the case because the question keeps coming up for them. okay. you know, you say you're going to start again next year. why is it going to be any different next year from this year and what's gonna happen this winter? so do you have any idea about that? so the, the, the ultra nationalists are very much on the defense. and i'm trying to keep everything going by really, by strong law tactics more than anything else. and, you know, just try a propaganda. but the tensions are enormous. and of course the people are really because there's been less conscription where, you know,
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they've had that brothers and fathers and things just sort of rounded up people and thrown in a truck to go to the front to be killed. i mean there's a lot of that, but there's no, there's no structures for popular defense. it's whole being crushed. i mean, they, it does when bmw popularizing a con, happen. so it's got to be a sort of internal fight at the top level of the regime to sol, solved. and you know, it may happen, and i'm sure the russians are watching very, very close gain remote more information than we do about, you know, these tensions. and if them maturing, cause i authorized this, i mean, put it in has been very catholic. he hasn't wanted, as you know, you told me earlier. why was that? why was there an axial skill going and still operation? and many people say, well, why of, of bridges still operation will put him as old as tried to do a process of uh,
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you know, not completely devastating. the concrete not leaving in like, uh, you know, uh, the school district. it's like, you're ok no. and so, i mean, he's always done it sort of incrementally, he's always had his eye on the politics, the global, well politics, the brakes. they've generally the politics trying to judge when is the right moment that the ukrainian system is completely exhausted. and then maybe to contemplate a push to give a, to put it at the end of the end of this process. i think, you know, that's probably what we may see and offensive. and i would think you would probably go on as far as the need for the new pro probably would hold that. well, put him sort of reads the sort of political tailings in the west and in europe. i mean, obviously, you know, you just starting the russians, the russians may have a handle the g o u or whatever have a handle on be in the circle. they're in p a,
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but show the ca did the accurately predict the move. finally, to save the people to don't pass by persians, troops, and you know, you're being close to the intelligence services in britain for decades. do you think? not think that the british specific day, i suppose i have uh, some kind of idea about this. uh, and are you moment 5 typically a rupture in cab destroying of the british war a sort of in the british conflict games and new great of the people on the ground. americans on the ground, new kids. and i mean, oh, most certainly inside and attached to the ministry, the know what's going on with that information gets up the treat to the political decision maker is a, is there a move in, in d? i know it was an a great intelligence qu by a c i a then, because it was,
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it was quite a, it was quite obvious what was, what was happening. i mean, who to never went in to ukraine with the intention of us, of military victory. he went to just show us a show, a hose to show, he was serious about negotiation. well, that didn't happen. i didn't what and so he had to mobilize and they have to regroup. and now they all ready. is there any indeed for well, with the whole of nature if necessary? they've been preparing enormously. they'll have at the end of the sort of reorganization allow me in about 1200000 really big. i mean, we're talking serious numbers. i mean, nature can do nothing against the smallest thing. okay. i'm afraid i'm afraid today wasn't that obvious to some of our pretty amazing guests that we had on this program in the run up to the s m. o beginning is the russians call it. there is another demand for those troops have been sitting on the boat for about 9 months, right up on the border as
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a signal that it was an attack on boss as the income. and then we had 4 days in the lead up to the thing, wherever was something like 20 fold increase in the shelling of dung boss. and you not to be honest. and also i knew that i can't say exactly how, but i knew that the russians that got the full plans for the offensive against on the exc, and announced a given to the bias also as best. so they knew it had to add to stopped in february and they knew they had to act. they had the whole story just to and finally, because we have, we could be talking for hours, of course, as usual, a zalinski in the economist curtailing a. do you grain with her on the war? and then this warning to the capitals of western europe, including where you are rome,
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i suppose. there's no way of predicting other millions of ukrainian refugees in european countries would react to the country being abandoned. if you're not with ukraine, you go with russia. what sort of threats i mean is talking about nuclear weapons in new data. so i'm going to rush here at the un general assembly rather bizarrely that on this if there is a ton in washington. what are these millions of refugees in western european capitals? what's the threatening exactly? a look when he says the war is going on. i mean, the reality is the test united said the states just simply said no more money and no more weapons, april a widow would end very would be at peace suggesting the sleeper cells. oh yeah, sure. i mean, you know, there's been so much exaggeration. uh, there may be 102. we sold the water one or 2 in russia. i mean, one of them killed a friend of mine diarrhea to gain. she was assassinated by
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a steepest so the car turned into a fob. she was a very, very intelligent young woman. i'm just post assessment. it's like there's no doubt they keep track davis. i'm not sure how capable of doing it, but certainly once the money and the weapons go, it will be a game changer. they content, they come, i mean the idea is that they can just go all that it can go on. so yes, i how increased was the reason you because i say you can just go to ikea and order a new army. it's not like stuff a is, you know, and there are lots of man and then you know, even if you get some 16 year old, so 60 year old. i mean they're on trade. they have no motivation. i think a lot of the ukrainians actually with us that they're all in the or, or titles of all people would love to get back to normal. just go back to normal life to see that relative some to you know, celebrate christmas and so used to. so i don't think you'll be,
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i don't think we'll be in a, in a crate to turn against. um, we are a pull. there may be one or 2. i think europe is much more worried about others. i mean, we've seen most been happening in line producer with huge influx of a young man from africa. and who, you know, i don't know what the future is in europe, but it's not going to be. it's not going to be easily settled to this problem. let me see, let me away. we will have to come on and told you guys about that. of course i was just correctly. exactly. that was a good. thank you. thanks to you. and that's it for the show will be back on saturday with a brand new episode of going on the ground. but until then keep in touch. why will that social media, if it's not sense, it didn't your country and had to watch? i don't going. undergoing tv on rumble. don't com to watch new and old episodes of going underground sees that day. the
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the total is the aggressor today, i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions. today russia was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that is constantly growing. but i think you chose that probably the most of the seniors just click on that. and you say the most, the more in the will ship, we're banning all important. so russian oil and gas suffering the price for another country propose. what we're going to do is just the phone service involved . the little joe bites in, imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's a boomerang,
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