the i'm action or time, see and welcome back to going underground broadcast to go around the world from the u a. this week marks one years into the west eco terror attack in history, the destruction of the north stream. you can watch our interview with small hutch timing. joe biden blew it up on a rumble, gentle nature nation media called her shaking square. see fear is also it keeps you conspiracies was the opponent of ukraine proxy. we'll talk a call soon. who is fired from his ratings winning fox news show nature nations like france and pressure and youtube rival rumble with censorship. demands usually successful online shows like redacted hosted by former fox news, holistically, morris and cbs is natalie morris. meanwhile, partially demonetized by pentagon contract, a youtube, as for britain with julian, a sondors incarcerated, and bro, gusting fox news art easy, g, g, and then other channels is illegal. any journalist fan linking you've going to nazis is outlawed. and then there's roswell brand. well, joining me now from lisbon portugal to discuss today's for media landscape is

a host, overt acted, like morris played and thanks so much for coming on. we're all big fans of redacted that the going underground is mean the hell of a week with the, you know, not sees being applauded by the and ty, canadian problem and, and so on. but when it comes to the biggest ratings when it comes to debunking the lives in a donation and government media, russell brand of the truck a cost. and i suppose we have to be careful about brand and then the case. but um, is the story about caring for women in percentages or is it about? well, it's obviously i'm had to big pharma perhaps, but ukraine i think clearly in their response, in the case response, it was never really about the sexual assault victims, the legend, sexual assault victims. if that was the story, we probably wouldn't be really been talking much about it. but the fact that of course, he spoke out against the war and he is

a disseminator of truth or tries to be a disseminator or truth and ask tough questions. i think that's clearly in to my opinion why they went after him in this targeted way. i think it was a coordinated media attack. you can see all of the front pages of the papers all and i colluding on you know, overnight to make sure that he's on the front pages of the papers. but this is really a focus on his message on his channel and less are concerned about the actual alleged victims. in all of this, i think it to me, that's the way it appears to me. but we now know we now know those and back channel . i don't know about. we now the know the full terms of service for anyone who as a youtube channel, that uh, and they have a create your responsibility policy, including unproven allegations of all screen behavior. well, what did you make of that? because i haven't heard of that. well, you know, our team studies the terms of service on a daily basis and it's unbelievable before our show every night. sometimes in our, in our chat channel, our producers will say, hey, are you to this afternoon?

decided to update this. now they've updated their cove and policy tonight and they've done a complete $180.00 under cove and policy. and oh wait, we now can say that, well, who knew that you had off air responsibilities as a, as a creator under their terms of service for things that are alleged that you don't even have to go through a court of law. there has to be no investigation of and youtube against to decide whether or not you violated some sort of moral code. i love that when you get this straight, so some say if they were on proven now, if i was to allege something against your goes natalie and your, your wife, youtube could take you to be here because i made an unproven allegation against you . yeah. and i don't understand what else i guess if it's loud enough, right. and then the media picks it up and puts it in newspapers and, and suddenly all of the, you know, corporate media runs within the washington post and new york times. and there's the associated press and they all do, you know, smear hit pieces on it then suddenly it's now in the press. and this is large

enough for youtube just to take some sort of an action. but there's plenty of channels. we know that have been shut down, either de, monetize the listed, remove completely, who don't have the size and breath and scope of russell brand and they kept his channel up. they just the monetize it so they're keeping all of the ad revenue, they're ok to ride around on their high horse and continue to make ad revenue also has content and other channels that they've de monetize that are large. so they'll still put ads on those videos. russell brand just won't make any money off of those videos. so now the 30 percent that they would normally skim off the top. now they get to keep 100 percent of the pie. but it's, it's, i mean, it's a very, i want to write a reply from youtube. i mean, you, you are as much of an expert on this as well, but i'd love to hear the right to reply from youtube to your allegations best. so would you on your cell? i know i would love to hear it. i would really never be, never come on. do they?

do you try? i mean, no, no, no, no why these people i tried to reach out. i tried to reach out to them. i've tried to get answers internally. i do know that we had people who were mimicking our channel and we, they actually did work with us and help in help. some of that there were people that were using our imagery and, and using artificial intelligence and making fig channels. so that, that is something that they've been trying to combat. but as far as congress calling anybody from youtube before congress, i would love to see members of congress calling them in front and asking them these tough questions. how do you go about the monetizing channels? how do you make decisions about what channels to pull down and we know there, but of course the lawsuit filed against you tube for this, i believe are if you junior, filed a lawsuit and i don't know if i don't know the update on if it was thrown out or not, but for removing his content off of youtube and they're a private company. they can make up their own terms of service. and there's no

recourse whatsoever, i suppose. because we know from the to the files that the f b, i did try and get information. well they, they were advised by the ukrainian secret service, detailed to us here before a long months to take things down. something that even before a long message, which i said was, uh no gonna happen. but we don't know about how us intelligence services tell youtube to de, monetize the services. well, i think, well, i think we could look into how they did it with twitter before you on musket took over how they did it with facebook before you know in the month. so maybe that's changed now, but to from, according to my sources, the backdoor, the back channel log in system is still in place. it was still in place of twitter when he log buske took it over. in fact, i interviewed a lot of us can i asked him that very question how, why is there, there's still this back channel government access point into twitter. and he said, i've heard about this. i'm gonna look into it, and i haven't heard any updates from you on mosque as to whether or not they've

shut down this back channel, but it allowed f b i. it allowed government agencies, dana say, and others to log in on the back end. and file take down requests specifically, they were given priority access. and one of the reasons we notice to give credit is because of doctor she via dora, who was running for senate seat against elizabeth warren in massachusetts. and of course he was censored, he was pulled off of twitter and through the lawsuit and through the discovery process, they discovered this entire backdoor operation, which they labeled a limited hang out operation and uncovered the whole thing. so we know that these back channels exist. i don't know about youtube don't specifically how that happens . i mean, i understand are if a junior last that case people can, which i did our interview with the campaign manager. uh, that is considered on our rental channel. if rumble is available in the countries. another aspect to the russell brand story is that we're getting information about

our government to continue to pressure social media. because we this letter repeated from a british politician married to a person for the 77 for gave to the british army would show the we had going underground, know about because it was that this information unit targeting what they called this information in in britain. what did you make a, what did you make about that? the fact that the british electric politicians were contacting rumble and take talk it's not surprising at all, and it goes to show kind of what we talked about at the beginning. their concern is not about the the, the victims. right. it's about the truth. it's about the truth getting out there. anyone who we see we saw the attacks against the greys on. we've seen attacks against journalist that i've interviewed on my show, specifically who have called out to you, k government for their, their involvement and curse bridge bombing and attacks and crimea, whether it's the north stream pipeline relationship,

or any of it any time you call attention to these things, there's your, your, you know, your rattling your cage. and so i'm not surprised at all that they would send these letters asking, rumble to take russell brand off their channel, demonetized them. i am though thrilled that rumbles response. everyone is do their day in court. and if they are ours, if there was some sort of a conviction or an investigation that led to a certain thing that we make our determination then everyone we, we are actually appalled by sexual abuse or sexual assault, etc. of course everyone is, but to preemptively come out and attack someone over allegations is, is this is the, is the era we live in now. and so you guys 1st in the court of media, he denies all the allegations. of course, have you ever seen anything like it to you been in the industry for so long the bulk of the industry? i mean, surely you like most people thought they could never get rid of talk a cause and who is the highest rated person on fox news just because of the kind of

journalism he did. i mean, did, did that surprise you? yeah. you know, i, you know, i have to be honest with you the, the morning that, that i woke up and saw that i had just spoken to tucker a few days before that he's a dear friend of mine and he's been a dear family friend for years through sticking fan and i was really, i wasn't surprised by it at all. in fact, i had interviewed him on my show just a few days before all of this happened to india a week or so, or i don't know something like that beforehand. and it was kind of ominous what he was, you know, on the show him talking about his differences of opinion and over the war and rac, excuse me, the war and ukraine. and in some other differences, perhaps with people in power at the, at the network. of course, you know, perhaps the january 6th investigation was going to be the thing that pulled him off the air. in fact, those are the reports that i've heard. and i think a lot of people have heard that publicly, but when i woke up and saw that,

i was not surprised at all because he was really the only anti war voice in mainstream media that people would play around a bit with it. but he was the most vehemently anti war, and there was no, i didn't agree with everything, but he said there's things that he and i have disagreements on. but for the most part, being the only anti war voice. on the, in all of, on all of network news is a very dangerous place for him to be calling attention to black rock and vanguard. and, and, and then a few, you know, just after black rock buys a number of shares of fox news. right? that's a very dangerous place to be treading. so i wasn't surprised at all. i was saddened by it, but i'm a more thrilled than ever that he can go out now and travel the world and do incredible interviews with world leaders. shine a light on stories that here to for he wouldn't have been able to do ever so it doesn't matter how appropriately you are though. as the boy, i mean, if taylor swift suddenly wrote a song about ukraine telling us saying it was

a proxy. will it doesn't matter how powerful that ratings your army of support is, the corporations will still get you, they not even interested in the probability you know, is it really is the deep state mechanism and no one is safe from it. i mean, absolutely not. i mean, a force we've been demonetized, we're not at the level of tucker carlson by any stretch of imagination. but when we've called truce on, we've featured number of stories with it was on cove, it was, it was on pfizer is own reading, pfizer is own documents on our show, their own documents were reading and youtube labels that medical in this information. so and then where do you monetize taken down and blocked in the same thing with covering the ukraine war, calling attention to nato's aggression, calling attention to the propaganda, this being foisted on people. if you tell that, and you know that these are, you have these large organizations which are funded in part by the united states government, these large media organizations. that's how amazon. so amazon cloud. so i mean,

amazon's cloud literally helps run the c i a. so i think these things are separate, they're not, it's all part of one big animal and it really scares me about the future of media. where do you turn? if they, they come after rumble. what's left? what do we have left bit shoot. might be the what i mean, what, what else do we have? all right, i'm just gonna be broadcasting from my front yard and see if people walk by and listening, you know, listen to me with a bullhorn. that's about the only thing we'll have left. right, more so i'll stop you there. more from the phone with fox news and garden host of the news, georgia redacted. after this break, the, there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools

while we just start with stability and business deals to help me living on that. we have very quick propaganda. you know, a price appeared in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions asked, the better the answer is will be the

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with redacted plate morris. clayton, do you think your prepared then is redacted gets what was successful. don't just be the monetize but be attacked personally. you and your wife and the team as you get a lot of people. what do you nice program? i mean, let's face it. i mean is, yeah. and the big programs online. i mean, i've had, you know, big skin i've been attacked over the years. plenty, and, you know, i think something i learned, again, from my, my friend tucker is the most important thing is to, you know, to be close to the ones you love in those situations, right? you know, with my wife and my family and, and in my, you know, if i close friends and try not to get caught up in the coffee,

any of the internet and social media and, and all of those things because, you know, spending your time in sort of twitter fights or anything else really is, is meeting lesson and really can't get you anywhere. so yeah, i guess i just, i have fixed in for it. it's not something i look forward to, and i think we just keep doing what we're doing and, and keep trying to keep plowing on the best we can, you know, meanwhile, the impeachment proceedings against the bible. and i know really in the news as much as the fact that the united states is leading opposition lead to trump looks that there was maybe face like eugene debs in that way. these running for the presidency from jail. i mean, how, how possible is that outcome, the years i've said this on the show and my audience doesn't like it when i say it, i don't know if they're trump supporters or they just don't like the idea of it. i've said this though, when i really i really stand stand firm on this. i don't believe that the deep

state in the united states, when i say the deep state, i'm not talking some sort of conspiratorial fake thing. i'm really talking about the permanent government, the permanent government it's, they are long after the elected politicians flowed and flowed out of washington. it exists to massive behemoths. there's a massive money making machine. they do not want trump to be president of the united states. and i really believe that they will not let him become president of the united states. i don't think that that's going to happen in the same way. i don't think the adult allowed robert f kennedy junior to become president of the united states. they absolutely will not allow that to happen. and i don't know how they're going to do it. they're gonna find is they're gonna throw as much as they can at him. and hope that they're gonna find some way of keeping him out of. they're gonna have, you know, keeping him out of the out of office out of being able to run. but he's winning in the polls. so i guess the more that they throw it to him, the more powerful he becomes, the more popular he becomes. but if they really keep him legally from running, that's going to be there that's going to be their mission. i think they'll probably

pull that off. well, given the way drawback of last time, maybe they can persuade him again to promote the swamp instead of as he tells and support is all the time to drain the. i mean, what do you think? do you think uh we can see another trump back and doing the same sort of things he was doing last time promoting people that were very much part of the swamp just as much is um west execs and to the blinking then raphael and the lloyd austin i think you're absolutely right about that. i mean, this is one of my big, big criticisms. i've been very vocal about this on the show. he promised he would drain the swamp and he did anything but drain the swamp. e, as in fact added, added to the swamp. so do we take him at his word that he's now learn his less than on that he was getting advice from people who are warming him and telling him you need to put this person here. you need to put this person here. are we allowed to just let him off the hook that he just took the advice of people and he put all of these people in power or this time he really says he's going to come in and clean

house. i just, i don't know. i guess i will believe it when i see it, but people can make these promises. but when they get in washington, washington has this. the stink about it. this swamp gas. think about it. that makes people forget why they ran in the 1st place. they make all these promises on the campaign trail, then they get back to washington. they get back into the swamp and the swamp gas gets back to them. and he's maybe not taking money from these people, like a lot of politicians, the united states, but he's somehow influenced by it and protected the swamp. and i, it's a great point you bring up and i don't know. and i don't know, you know, robert f kennedy junior says he's, he would close all of these organizations. he would close down the intelligence community. he would close our military bases around the world, and i would love that to happen. i would absolutely love that to happen. what would happen, think about the massive mechanism of trying to shut that down inside the united states government again, it is a behemoth unto itself. it is a deep state,

is dwight eisenhower admitted publicly. he had our, he really lost control of the military industrial complex. i think there's this misnomer that when he was delivering his farewell address, that he was something he saw the one right. but they want, they won before he left office and he knew it, and he was a warning to everyone else that hey, i've already lost this. here actually was the allied commander in world war 2 and i've lost it. i can't, i can't put this genie back in the bottle back when it was even waste small works in the 1950s. so i just, i don't know how they pulled this off, how they shut it all down. but clearly anyone with the can a visa, a name is going to know quite a lot about the what the military industrial going thinks about is how surprised where you buy this warning letter sent to foxy and then your times warning against coverage of the ukraine on to bite and impeachment proceeding story claiming that the, they meant to be careful. i mean it's, it's amazing the public that it's gonna be written and come out like that. i will,

they will be i, well, i think they already are obeying they've been, you know, diligently going along with it from the very beginning. i'm not surprised at all, and it's just maybe a, perhaps a reminder to kind of all fall in line with it. we feature this on the show, i think about a week and a half ago and where we showed sort of the, the, the text within the cnn articles that were very dismissive of the, the, the 100 bite and charges and any sort of impeachment proceedings and all of this are very dismissive of it down playing it if the you know, if the roles were reversed, think about the wall to wall coverage. that you would have donald trump, the absolute wall to wall coverage of if, if the she were on the other foot. but of course, the mechanisms are in place to downplay this, to keep it quiet, to keep it off the front page. and of course we all solve this. you know, people say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory that can't be true, that can mark soccer bird publicly admitting how this do the f b. i leaned on them to squash the story at facebook. we now know from the twitter

files from the facebook files publicly in court, and through great journalism, michael schellenberg are and others who have exposed this relationship this back door relationship of trying to quash the story. so of course the mechanism is strong and they would love nothing more than to keep a meat puppet like bite and in power that they have complete control over. he's not in control of the government. they are totally running the show. and this is exactly what they want. they don't want someone else in there that they can't control. and this is all part of keeping him in power. but in fairness, the journalist we had rudy giuliani on this show on us election day last time the election was elected by and we found it difficult going on the ground to believe what juliani was saying. he had the laptop, our a laptop and he was showing it off on the show. and the team here was thinking, i mean this comp be true. i mean, does it fits it for you?

oh, um yeah, these uh they seem to be like goods versus the best so absurd. and they turn out true, the laptop. i know, but if it is true, i think you and i can count on, on our hands, you know, in the past few years, how many of these things sounded so absurd to us that ended up being true. you know that while we were there, cuz there can possibly be a laptop that a 100 by dropped off at a repair shop. and now is in the hands of rudy giuliani. like you couldn't write this in a novel. in fact, if it was written in a novel, it would seem cliche, it would seem fake. you wouldn't buy it. you would say that come on. that's what we have. the blue of the pictures of the nude pictures of bite and fun. really. i mean, for british radio broadcast. yeah. but you know that those are clearly fake. those are photoshop that can't be true. those are clearly manipulated. and then of course, it is all true. but you know, the thing is, you had journalists like miranda divine and others who were deeply looking into this. so to praise certain journalists at the,

at the time who were saying that this is true, that they had confirmed the veracity of the emails. they had confirmed the veracity of the laptop. we knew that it was, and of course, they all ignored it or call to the conspiracy theory. and then you have the collusion of the government and you have the f, b. i the intelligent state telling social media to block the story, to the rank, the story, to hide the story. so, you know, and i think there are, there's a you, you understand us and i think we understand this. when you're like a young journalist and you're hearing that the f b i, you're hearing from people in the news room telling you that well know 5050 intelligence sources have said this is this information. this is russian different edition. this information. they've all verified this and you're rising up the ranks as a journalist in the news organization. are you going to be the one to rock the boat? you know, because you're going to probably lose your job. if you do, you're not going to get that jump. you know that the plumb assignment, if you do rock the boat, so you go along with what management tells you to do and these agencies. and the

thing is of course you now know, forget to forget operation, mockingbird, forget all of these infiltration. so the intelligence community inside these news rooms they know actively work for these news rooms. they're on the payroll now. so they'll often toss to, we want to bring it into a, you know, a former c i, a analyst, whatever, or former general, whomever, to get your analysis on this. so they're now actively paid in their, in the news rooms. and so they can confirm that these things are fake news. oh no, that is russian just information and we shouldn't run with that story. and so they have operated inside these news rooms now. so it doesn't matter that we have joe biden on video showing that he can fire the prosecutor and key of he in ukraine. do you think the americans, on average, believe the bible, the administration cares about the environment? we have comp 28 coming up here in the u a. and yet this is the one year anniversary

this week of the nord stream attack, which so clearly shows a lack of care for the environment. sadly, sadly in the united states, you know, i don't think many americans just maybe, but i think for people to watch this show people to watch our show are plugged in and understand understand what happened with nord stream. but for the most part, i think most people are tuned down to that. it's too complex to out there. they don't really, it's probably russia did it, and then they turned out they saw it on cnn. russia clearly did it, you know, even fox news had their people on, on the shows the general saying that it was clearly clearly russia that was responsible for it. and then that ship sailed. now you and i are talking about it a year later and see more of her. she's talking about it a year later. but the average american really care, you know, they'll recycle their normal cycle, their plastic bottles that night, separate them into different recycling containers and, and make sure that they're,

you know, not turning on the water, leaving on the lights in their house and those sorts of things but when it comes to the largest ecological disaster in, arguably in world history, a man made ecological disaster, they've sort of tuned out about it. and i don't think that they're drawing the connections that likes to see more her shar or providing for us. i guess some of them were when dugger calls and show was being broke because not online to the hard working people of the united states. after they've done 2 shifts, 3 shift soon hose. how are they? how many, how is they putting into the day they were doing the daily living? how important we did talk a causing vladimir food and interview be given that in they donations negotiations about ukraine, a routine lead dismissed as weakening the fight for freedom. i think that interview would be incredible and i think it could be an interview that helps in this war, which is all i care about, which is bringing peace. you know,

we're a very pro peace show. and so to have an interview where he can lay bare some of the lies, he can share the peace agreement that was on the table. you can go into more detail about the, the negotiations that took place behind the scenes with zalinski, who had basically agreed to a peace agreement before nato. and boyce johnson stuck their next into it and, and torpedo the entire thing. i think it would be incredibly powerful to have an interview with tucker carlson and asking tough questions. you know, he's not afraid he wouldn't be afraid to ask quite the tough questions and talk questions around things that, of course, are parroted all over cnn and mainstream media in the united states. that is a crazy man. he's a war criminal, he's dying of all manner. of cancers on a regular basis, he lives in a bunker and to provide some, some access to him in the west that we don't get to see. i think the last big interview that i remember seeing was making kelly sitting down with him years ago.

i, i can't remember a, you know, a similarly large interview like that and years played morris. thank you. thank you. and that's ever the show will be back on monday to ask for my political candidate of the people's body and kind of the david fry. hideaway is countries intent upon them and expressed support for the not css, but until then keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sense and then you will country and how do i channel going? i'll be going to be on rumbled up, come to watching you and old episodes of going underground. see monday, the the we are in contract, the land of fire breathing volcanoes. volcanoes vividly capture the imagination and they define our lives much more than you would expect. so what are they capable of

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