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west losing proxy war in ukraine. the to discuss these issues and more of joined by my guess, martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator, and in budapest we browse to george w l, a. t as a pod, crafter at the gov, but which can be found on youtube and locals. gentlemen, cross up rules and the fact that music and jumped anytime you want. and i always appreciated. i start out with georgia in budapest, which the of canada and crudo is still reeling from one of the most god awful events i've ever seen on display in my life actually parading out an actual nazi when. if you know the historical record, thousands and thousands of on nazi's were allowed entry into canada at the same time, based on their top to being and s as a member. and at the same time you had jews that were dis located and they were put

in detention centers because they were deemed to be possible communist. and now it's kind of gone full circle. they want to tell us that this was a surprise to anyone, but anyone that knows the history shouldn't be surprised at all. we only made a surprising assist appear stupidity of the canadian leadership. go ahead, george. it was, it wasn't a surprise, but they clearly so that they would get away with it. and you have to keep in mind that i'm almost everybody's a knew exactly who he was. if it's a, if you look at uh christy, a freeland, who is clapping malik legal? see the footage of the traffic manager, but she knows very well who this person was. i mean, she grew up within that the extreme ukrainian nationally as the household to speak ukrainian. her grandfather had been a propagandist in nazi occupied poland. and again, let's remember that you know, this

a few years back. this was exposed and she made it to denied us that all this is russian, this information. and she is foreign minister, expelled russian. diplomats full of this uh, this information before finally admitted. yeah. all right, it may be whatever, but she has suffered no consequences. so she knew very well and they own it was very well because ultimately they think were on the same side with things again, okay, this guy made a few mistakes. he joined the wrong organization but, but he's on the same side as us. he hates the russians. well, we hate the russians. he wants to do free your prey from russia. we want to free your brain for master. so he's a good guy and i would just say no, it just may have made a couple of mistakes. but they are the unfortunate thing was that they had this professor yvonne kitchen also gave from all to a. it was like he had the goal is he had the photographs, he had all the document. jupiter, you couldn't get out of it. and well, you know,

what then happens is that the, a crudo of immediately blamed uh it was somebody else to speak. uh. and then the 28 things even was by the e. apologize to the queues. uh 1st, then it apologize to the polls. very apologize. so the l g, b, t, q, whatever, i want, the people didn't apologize to where the russians, you know, the great as victims of the arch, i tell apologies that using the same statement that he was mentioning this information. but what did they can be part of them to do? it was a huge display of this information. it's really quite remark martin speed, you know what i find a really troubling it is that you know, this all comes from this whole cold board mantra of the captive nations. ok. so if you are a top did the nation, you were given a lot of dispensations, like bringing them not see or being involved in pogroms, you were given

a clean slate because you were against the russians against the soviets. and this is a legacy that is, it remains and i contend, and i want to talk about this little bit later. this is part of the process of rewriting the entire history of the 20th century. martin. i think it is. yeah. but the other thing i think that sort of is up into question is, um, we tend to think people bunch interest in terms of think that we went to war and 1939 to crush fascism. but i think this incident and the kind of empowerment and all those and the fact the fact that we've just completely, i'm a media completely whitewashed or admitted any references to the nazis who are running the credit and government. but my mind, what i find laurie is that i think, i think this sort of the question that you know, it's not that we full fascism in the 2nd level is that we for the sucking strand of fascism that we didn't like. we didn't layouts good luck. we didn't like his policies. we didn't like his particular interpretation of passions. but what's

happened is this incident and the kind of the bottom i think cuz i think is pretty much um, exposed to us suppose to west or being hypocrites with no anti fascist a tool. you know, i mean this is what a huge mess is. um we just, um, if you look at the, for example the, the, this debate now let's kicked off. i'm frankly, ass kicked off. you know, nazis in the west. you know, a lot of people don't know even people, my generation don't know the numbers. i'm not serious, but left not only countries like you can, but even germany, you know, american, what's the best pick america, the line shop with best surgeons, best technicians, best engineers, best ministry experts, and even experts show from the ministry who they could use to them. send to other regimes around the world to try and enter x into certain levels of expertise and to torture. for example, you know, there's a go that was the best, but also ukrainian, nazis flips tools, lots of places, aluminum, which accounts, but not, not most,

not known. in my own country and person is a spouse themselves of went to the u. k. and we are protected by the british government were given a new identity, a new spaces, you know, and the background was just, you know, americans the white war. so i think not your right to make a reference to this canadian incident as being the, the worst thing you probably say, i think is the, is gonna be the worst phone policy initiative with us. right. well, the kinetic almost ever done in his history. i mean that the never going to cut out this. this is now recorded. this is on the record on the internet. the still a, she's still there. yeah. the on the screen really well known, big streaming. you know, if, if it hadn't been for the whole low cost then and you know what, all it was just, you know, they were rough. you know, they were tough. ok. they were very authoritarian, but it's the holocaust that always is the problem when they want to completely rewrite that. they're trying, they're doing and we,

you and i have documented this for 20 years of, of read with the soviet union was really the enemy, and churchill won the war in europe. and is that landscape like churchill see how it works? jordan? no, it is. exactly right. i think my mother fixed on a very important point which is the hipaa was unacceptable. i mean that was just no way that you could accept somebody who was a regular so rapidly. i just submitted bringing all kinds of trunks from the medieval times. you know, you just comp live with anything like that, had a being a little more moderate. and it just simply limited himself to hating the communist, hating the russians, and what were one thing to push these terrible people, these savages out of your, i think it with a one fall more is here is that he did as it does. it was, he did have a here is, i mean, you know, the hit was invasion, was joined by others, but that's the office i got name is not, it was by no means just the german invasion. so we joined by others. and i think

this has been the case with was the landscape as a widow and he's a very good friend of mine by saying, well, the landscape things though he can't possibly be a fascist because he's a junior and that's, that's is this model fairly say yeah, but you could have is sort of all the aspects of fascism in place. you can, you know, leave out the jewish bother, you know that, and you know, because there's just do embarrassing. but it's still the same thing is the still the same etiology is still the same. you need to embrace the origin that's, that's driving your brain later. he's oh, willing, perfect, this opinion covering this up. that's, that's, that should be people that we treat them should be asking that question, not the fact that he's jewish. but why is the going along with this here? you know, martin is at the beginning of this special military operation. a lot in love last year in february they would the, the russian leadership and that's 2 goals. the militarization indeed notification and

a lot of people are mystified by this. i want to point out to everyone here. during the 2nd world war, the vast majority of ukrainian spots on the soviet side, not the the nazi side. there were many, many, many 1000 of ukrainians that did indeed fight with the nazis. and they fought a pro se loosely for them, and they were given protection if they survived the war. so i don't want to win killed all ukrainians. but there is an element in ukraine then you know, tons of thing with georgina, you know, we talked about in july, i think it was, you know, you know, this is, it kind of gives, it's a kind of un comfortable. and we have to be careful and then the through the article becomes ubiquitous. the patches and the symbolism and the icon. i have to be ok. this is a real problem here. and this is what it's getting out. it was really killed by the west and still is this incident in canada should be a wake up call that such an issue does exist in ukraine. go ahead martin. as it does, it exists very much and it's not being posted on because of uh,

a completely ubiquitous um blackout from western media, particularly patricia and american media who just refused to report on what you just mentioned is interesting that the media and the last 5 or 6 years or so have quite considerably moved shifted in the direction of following a social media. you know, there's one of the survival strategies that they have is that we should do more from social media. if you have a british newspaper now, or we offer what you see from the social media, and yet they are very selective. over was a couple, you know, they don't want this idea of the most of the majority of british people, for example, in england to understand just how strong the policies are and you crate. and it was just at least a truck, you know, a former british to promote just everybody recently on the adult. sure that he believed with us. um, but says the landscape will have to some combust of knots his round. and it will basically hold him hostage. you know,

so he people into the idea that the landscape was not an extreme is to fall right individual himself, but he was trapped. he was surrounded by these, not caesar now basically running the show, you know, and nobody in the west wants to know. there's that nobody wants to acknowledge all the insignia every time that there's a funeral. you know, these guys put on the wife and says, uniforms and his own on social media. but we've done results on it because it crashes with a narrative which due to from the british and american media a following from nature, you know that we don't have enough to call them and you claim it reminds but very much of um, out of when um in the 2nd level, for example, um when wasting church was discovered um the concentration comes in germany imposed and he did. he decided not to run the black and white footage on passing. that was because he was afraid that the amount of anti semitism in britain was that time might actually go against the objectives of what he was trying to do, which is to start more nationalism and get more people. it's the same thing. you know,

let's not show the truths about the nazi impact because if we show that what's really going on the then the support of nate. so and this month cut, my dear the we can when it was, you know, um yeah, but they, they fixed it as a switch and if we use the same time period when eisenhower is a supreme commander, when his troops found these concentration camps work camps, he forced german civilians to go through them to see really when a man of german descent actually did that. one of the great iron needs of history. quite gentlemen, megabit jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on so we only stay with our t the

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local bank across the dock were all things are considered non peters. well, this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news the high. let's go back to george in budapest because the new york times everyone's well accidentally the tell us the truth of it. i don't know, i'm a, or maybe they're getting spooked. i don't know. maybe they're getting leaks from someone, but judge that they put up and it just st math. and it's gotten quite a bit of coverage about the quote unquote the success or lack of success of the ukrainian counter offensive. it was so herald to betray us. only don't betray us, betray us. he, he was always just going to be granted, you know, and victoria knew, and so, you know, we've been planning this with them all along. and then the new york times puts up

a inconvenient, true, true. is it this counter offensive, completely funded by the west equipped by the west. and it's been an utter failure . the amount of land that is exchange hands has been a skill george. exactly. and if, if anything, it's actually the reverse that if you look up the map, the movement on the map since the start of the year since january, the 1st rush, it has it. if anything, gains search and you ukraine has if anything lost airfare. so if i ran the calls into question, the entire rationale of nato's was because native as being assuring us now all of this year is what fantastic progress your brain is. making a rough is being degree. it is humiliated, being driven out. and none of that is actually happening and, and therefore you gotta say, well, well, he's lives, it'd be in sacrifice for watch. exactly. you do it because the rational and that is gonna be a particular in the united states, you know, the politicians that, wow,

this is great. you know, we're getting such a, you know, the front desk like victory for the bucks. no americans are dying, wrote the russian military is being degraded well and you look at the maps in the russian military is not being degraded. god knows how many ukrainians have died. tens of thousands full, no games in territory whatsoever. so what's the in game here? i mean, they, you basically have to admit, nate, ukraine cannot win this war. ukraine's only hope is if nato gets involved in this war, directly, the gets. that brings up the question. george mean, i would say this is a nato. are me inches manned by ukrainians. okay. and it does have uh, british and american and other nato advisors. so i, i would, i would tweak great insights. nato cannot win this war unless they want to go to the ultimate escalation. martin jump in. that's the warning thing. this is the question now is, what is the next level?

you know, when you have the new york times basically admitting, i'm directing as republican audience because it's largely a right witness. but it's not so sympathetic to the present, but in ministration. when the new york times is basically shrugged shoulders, the st. this kind of, we win this war and they also has a cause. now we count then what's the next best scenario, you know from not winning. and they don't have the own so, and they also seems to be just to keep, funneling more and more money that way. i'm on now. and so let's keep wants to talk about setting up joints on um, production ventures in the ukraine. more money for him and his couple, you know, this makes sense. um, there was an ocean in congress just 2 weeks ago, i think, to stop up 24000000000. so what do you guys, i think someone's going to correct me, i'm sure, but i think that's been blowing out the water of red. yeah. and it's temporarily. it'd be, they go through this could boot the feet are about closing down the government. you know, i've gotten used to it, but it's as we're speaking gentleman,

the mother spick, it has been turned off, but it's only for like 45 days. okay. but it does send a very interesting method. george, a d is kind of a semantic thing, but we see a bill crystal, maybe we can talk about his whatever. um, when the commercial directed at republicans, okay. they know they, they tell knows you and it's in, in, in it's a government regime and can't they know they can't win, but they want to avoid losing. i don't know if you see what i mean by that. by not losing. they just keep it going, right? they keep it going and now you have the you, you gave defense. secretary was those given in ends of you to the telling her of a lot of them in which is the well actually we're going to send you k troops directly into the combat zone. and you great. yeah. will have uh, you know, of you, you can naval ships in the black sea because we're a label power and we know out of fights and, you know, as a, well,

that's the dramatic escalation. now, i mean, be the, you know, the russians. i think the russians are really liked to take us a swipe at the bridges. they don't like the british. i mean, i think, you know, we can say that the russians, they don't like the germans, but at least they have respect for the jobs they don't like. they might, because they have respects of the americas. they don't like or have any respect for the british. so if you can, it really does want to go down the spot. i think we're going to get stopped. and i don't think that we're going to be able to call in nate's so to bail them out. so, but this is live but you know, it's, it's a of a piece of however ridiculous as well as however literally as being a shave. there are still directors like this. well, yeah, we've got to do more. you know, we've got to give them all directly involved. i you, martin who is, is everybody seems in british leaders so they all kind of, you know, churchill in curious. okay. and you know, you see kind of be like churchill now. i mean, i, i, when i read that i want,

i thought, come on, this is like, you be able to babylon be, i mean, this can be, i can't be serious, but apparently is how do you explain that? i mean, is there any support for and on the ground martin? no, i don't think it's serious. i. i really don't. i think it's just, i'm a new defense minister who was absent to experience a tool in the don't see a testing the water and feeding this out to his few. a general, as you know, who are ready to rewrite his his, his speech is or is or is is no since i can't see that i should have been taken very seriously. although i did site on your show, a branch of the very beginning of this company, i did say, i think it was a matter of time before british or american troops would be on the ground. i think that is still a possibility, but in a formal capacity, if, if this madness continues, you know, a sooner or less so. um the idea of taking seriously. the idea of most of the age of professionals, private soldiers is going to be put into the for it is that's going to be discussed at some point because the main problem is lensky has, is, you know,

you can list all the ministry problems, but his main problem is just to go the numbers and so, you know, just reset the i would also say he doesn't have the numbers. yes, i agree. let me throw at the george to that. doesn't have the air superior already . we had none of this makes any sense without airs, but you can control the hair, you cannot protect your man and not tailor it and everything else. and the russian simply refused to give them that. okay. and they never will. george? no, that's right. so that's why, you know, he's one shot and that's been clear for long time is to get laid so directly involved. so you have to get them so that they're actually involved in some, uh, shooting well. and um, and there's still a possibility of that that could happen there. you know, we've, we've, we've talked about different scenarios, some kind of a weapon of mass destruction. and usually a power plant is destroyed or something like that. but with that put, provoke a direct action, but other than that, and if you look at this map,

you have to realize that you, ukraine, which is something as obvious ukraine kind of when this will by itself. and then yesterday you'll say, well, why don't you and this will then why you just sending, you know, tens of thousands of troops to the disk. well, because that's the nature that's been they to align where we go to just keep this will going. even though there's a zip in the prospect of winning and the, the rationale which is, well, we're weakening. we are degrading russia. we're, you know, i mean, the, the, it isn't happening. so what, when, why you just gaping those go it and well that, but this of the people within nato, and that includes the, the, by the most basic, lose a little british government and the number of governments in europe. well let me just uh, keep it going. well, we have the selection now in, in slovakia that clearly the dissenting voices in europe and a, tell you precisely, this is nonsense. this is,

this is leading to complete the capacity of it. well embark name a weekend. oh, you know, the nato concert. oh, as much as it wants uh, at the uh, as of the russian forces and ukraine, if anything can be a very long term. but one of the things that just not talked about enough and i think is very serious, is that you're, you're, you're having a societal, klaus and ukraine. i mean, you know, you can talk about numbers all you want, okay. and get the men back from europe and you know, and put them in the military. but you know, you the greatest society down so much that it's, that ends up being a total pre ball collapse. and then then what do you do? and, and i, i don't personally, i don't think the russians want that. i think john meter, some are really, but it's best and it's something to ponder and it's really dark. but he said, the russell when, but it will be an ugly victory. and that's the, that's why i think the ugliness is the societal collapse of ukraine. it will be a no man, so nobody's going to invest money in that it all go ahead with the we already have

thought is the pollutants that doesn't want that as much. one of the reasons why it doesn't go with lion and just filled out and vision, it doesn't need to, as it was, i think, written in the new york times piece that you're referring to. i think the also mentioned that teaching does not need to do anything over the light, doesn't need to do any full attack. he's got time on his side. the idea is we just sit and wait and we watch the ukrainian release. i mean time model is just basically implode on itself and that's already happening. and you talk about this as a, as a breakdown. nobody is more conscious of that. so let's give self. cholenski knows that politically, he's losing out, he's losing improves and i think the board and ministration also knows that. and i think the way out the all from the american commentators always talk about. but never elaboration. you know, to be all from, could be originally in change in ukraine and you take advantage of a new person in to actually start a whole new process, a piece of toast. you know,

the americans are pushing the landscape. how does the leg since next year? he's resisting and for good reason. he knows he has the ethics as a different political logic. and i'm going to actually give deference to, to george because this has been his mantra for a year and a half 20 months. is that it's going swimmingly for the americans. george, why don't you think worry okay, why don't you pay me and that's willing to fight. things are cool. we're good. don't really exactly that. and the, that the american leaders have a lot of this out on many education, which is, i know americans are dying and we're making a lot of money. the mean only on contracts is and then it goes all the private equity funds, all the hedge funds there will making money. there will be compensated by american tax with american taxpayers oppose getting screwed over level of losing money, but nobody really cares about them. the other thing is i don't think they want to get rid of the landscape is precisely what we were talking about earlier is joe, is he is the boss like iowa by, you know, however much you can bring up the subject of not as a, he's

a do how can it be possible to use a building not this is that you can even mostly out of it, but uh, so i think is far too useful. well, the american is leading ukraine to complete capacity. the americans now, well know this, but they don't care about that. he's making them a lot of money. so i don't think i have any additional getting rid of him. yeah, i don't think they have a pension program for him because he won't be around to collect debt. ok, that's all the time we have dental and i think my guess americans and in budapest number i think our viewers for watching us here at our dc. you next time, remember prospect rules

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