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a single math and the new york times tells us everything we need to know about the west losing proxy war in ukraine. the to discuss these issues and more enjoyed by my guess. martin j america sees an award winning journalist and commentator, and in budapest we cross the george w l. a. he is a pod crafter at the god, but which can be found on youtube and locals. gentleman cross up rules and the fact that music and jumped anytime you want. and i always appreciated. i start out with georgia in budapest, which the of canada and crudo is still reeling from one of the most god awful events in i've ever seen on display in my life actually parading out an actual nazi when. if you know the historical record, thousands and thousands of on nazi's were allowed entry into canada at the same time based on their tap to being and s as a member. and at the same time you had jews that were dislocated and they were put

in detention centers because they were deemed to be possible communist. and now it's kind of gone full circle. they want to tell us that this was a surprise to anyone, but anyone that knows the history shouldn't be surprised at all. they only made a surprising, it's just the pure stupidity of the canadian leadership. go ahead, george. it was, it wasn't a surprise, but they clearly so that they would get away with it. and again, keep in mind that almost everybody that knew exactly who he was it for. so if you look at christie, a freeland, who is clapping malik legal? see the footage of the traffic manager, but she knows very well who this person was. i mean, she grew up within that the extreme ukrainian nationally as the household to speak ukrainian. her grandfather had been a propagandist in nazi occupied poland. and again,

let's remember that you know, this a few years back, this was exposed and she made it to denied us that all this is russian, this information. and she is foreign minister, expelled russian. diplomats full this, this information before finally admitted. yeah. all right. it may be whatever, but she has suffered no consequences. the she knew very well and they own it was very well because ultimately they think were on the same side with things again, okay, this guy made a few mistakes. he joined the wrong organization, but, but he's on the same side as us. he hates the russians. what we hate the russians he wants to do free your brave from russia. we want to free your brain from russia . so he's a good guy and i would just say no, it just may have made a couple of mistakes. but they are the unfortunate thing was that they had this professor yvonne kitchen also gave from all to a. it was like he had to go to, you had the photographs, he had all the document. jupiter,

you couldn't get out of it. and well, you know, what then happens is that the, the crew of immediately blamed uh it was somebody else to speak. uh, and then the 2 big things even was by the e. apologize to the queues. uh 1st then it apologize for the polls. very apologize to the l g b t q, whatever you want. the people didn't apologize to where the russians, you know, the great those victims, all the apologies that you're getting the same statement that he was mentioning this information. but what did the clinic be part of them to do? it was a huge display of this information. it's really quite remark martin speed, you know what i find a really troubling it is that you know, this all comes from this whole cold board mantra of the captive nations. ok. so if you are a top to the nation, you were given a lot of dispensations, like bringing them not see or be involved. in pogroms, you were given

a clean slate because you were against the russians against the soviets. and this is a legacy that is, it remains and i contend, and i want to talk about this little bit later. this is part of the process of rewriting the entire history of the 20th century. martin. i think it is. yeah. but the other thing i think that sort of is up into question is, um, we tend to think people bunch interesting tend to think that we went to war and 1939 to crush fascism. but i think this incident and the kind of empowerment and all those and the fact the fact that we've just completely, i'm a media of completely whitewashed or admitted any references to the nazis who are running the credit and government the my mind. what i find worrying is the, i think, i think this was the question that you know, it's not that we full fascism in the 2nd level is that we for the 2nd strand of fascism that we didn't like. we didn't layout of good luck. we didn't like his policies,

we didn't like his particular interpretation of passions. but what's happened is this incident and the kind of bottom i think cuz i think it's pretty much exposed to us suppose to west or being hypocrites. with no anti fascist a tool. you know, i mean this is what a huge mess is. um we just, um, if you look at the, for example, the, the, this debate now let's kicked off. i'm frankly, as kicked off, you know, not sees in the west. you know, a lot of people don't know even people, my generation don't know the numbers. i'm not serious but left. not only countries like you can, but even germany, you know, america about the best pick america, the line share with best buy surgeons. best technicians, best engineers, best ministry experts, and even experts, so from the ministry who they could use um to them send to other regimes around the world to try and enter x into certain levels of expertise and to torture. for example, you know, there's a go that was the best, but also ukrainian, nazis flips tools, lots of places, a lot of them, which accounts, but not not,

was not known in my own country. and person is a spouse themselves of went to the u. k. and we are protected by the british government were given a new identity, a new spaces, you know, and the background was just, you number records, the white war. so i think not your right to make a reference to this canadian incident as being the, the worst thing you probably would say, i think is the, it's gonna be the worst phone policy initiative with us. right? well, the kinetic almost ever done in his history. i mean that the never going to get out this, this is now recorded. this is on the recommend the there is still a she's still there. yeah. and what's the screen really well known, big screen with that? sure. you know, if, if it hadn't been for the holocaust then and you know what, all the voices, you know, they were rough, you know, they were tough. ok. they were very authoritarian, but it's the holocaust that always is the problem when they want to completely rewrite that. they're trying, they're doing and we,

you and i have documented this for 20 years of, of read with the soviet union was really the enemy, and churchill won the war in europe. and is that landscape like churchill see how it works? george's, no, it is. exactly right. i think my mother picks on a very important point which is the hipaa was unacceptable. i mean that was just no way that you could accept somebody who was a regular so rapidly. i just submitted bringing all kinds of trunks from the medieval times. you know, you just comp live with anything like that, had a, been a little more moderate. and it just simply limited himself to hating the communist, hating the russians, and what were one thing to push these terrible people, these savages out of your, i think it would have one phone more. it here is that he did as it does. it was, he did have a here is, i mean, you know, the hipaa's invasion was joined by others, but that's the office i got name is not, it was by no means just

a german invasion. so we joined bios and i think this has been the case with was the landscape as a widow and he's a very good friend of mine and i think, well, the landscape things though he can't possibly be a fascist because he's a junior and that that is this monitor and they say yeah, but you could have is sort of all the aspects of fascism in place. you know, leave out the jewish bother, you know, what is that? and you know, because that's just too embarrassing. but it's still the same thing is the still the same etiology is still the same. and we need to embrace the coming college it that's, that's driving your brain later. he's willing, perfect, this opinion, covering this up. that's, that's, that should be people that we treat them should be asking that question, not the fact that he's jewish. but why is the going along with this here? you know, martin is at the beginning of this special military operation. a lot in love last year in february they would leave the russian leadership and that's 2 goals. the

militarization indeed notification and a lot of people are mystified by this. i want to point out to everyone here. during the 2nd world war, the vast majority of ukrainian spots on the soviet side, not the the nazi side. there were many, many, many 1000 of ukrainians that did indeed fight with the nazis. and they fought approximately for them, and they were given protection if they survived the war. so i don't want it when killed all ukrainians, but there is an element in ukraine then you know, tons of thing with georgina, you know, we talked about in july i think it was, you know, you know, this is, it kind of gives, it's a kind of un comfortable, and we have to be careful and then the through the article becomes ubiquitous. the patches and the symbolism in the icon, i have to be ok. this is a real problem here, and this is what it's getting out. it was really killed by the west and still is. but this incident, canada should be a wake up call that such an issue does exist in ukraine. go ahead,

mark it does. it exists very much and it's not being posted on because of uh, a completely ubiquitous um blackout from western media, particularly patricia and american media who just refused to report on what you just mentioned is interesting the media and the last 5 or 6 years or so have quite considerably moved, shifted in the direction of following a social media. you know, there's one of the survival strategies that they have is that we should do more from social media if you ever bridge these. but, you know, are we off of what you see from the social media, and yet, they are very selective. over was a couple of, you know, they don't want this idea of the most of the majority of british people, for example, in england to understand just how strong the policies are and you crate. and it was just at least a truck, you know, a former british to promote just everybody recently on the talk show that he believed with us. um, but says the landscape will have to some combust of nazis round and it will basically hold him hostage. you know,

so he people into the idea that the landscape will not an extreme is to fall right individual himself. but he was trapped. he was surrounded by these, not caesar now basically running the show, you know, and nobody in the west wants to know. there's that nobody wants to acknowledge all the insignia every time, but there's a funeral, you know, these guys put on the wife and says, uniforms and his own on social media. but we've done revolts on it because it crashes with a narrative which due to from the british and american media a following from nature. you know that we don't have enough sleep problem and you claim it reminds but very much all of them out of when in the 2nd level, for example, um when, when church was discovered, the concentration comes in germany and potent he did. he decided not to run that black and white footage on passing news because he was afraid that the amount of anti semitism in britain of that time might actually go against the objectives of what he was trying to do. which is to more nationalism and get more people. it's

the same thing. you know, let's not show the truths about the nazi impact. because if we show that what's really going on the then the support of nate. so and this mad cut, my dear. so we can win a will, you know, um, yeah, but they, they fixed it as a switch and if we use the same time period when eisenhower is a supreme commander, when his troops found these concentration camps work camps, he forced german civilians to go through them to see really when a man of german descent actually did that, one of the great iron needs of history. quite gentlemen megabit jump in here. we're

going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on. so we only stay with our t the same as possible any more to understand western security and defense policy with rational analytical c. reeves concepts, east is now move into the re, um, of the irrational emotionally as calculus thing. the

local bank across stock were all things are considered. non peter, now this is a home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. the quite, let's go back to george in budapest and the new york times, everyone's well accidentally the tell us the truth of it. i don't know. my or maybe they're getting spooked, i don't know. maybe they're getting leaks from someone, but towards the they put it up and it just thing. but i think it's gotten quite a bit of a coverage about the quote unquote the success or lack of success of the ukrainian counter offensive. that was so carol, to betray us, only don't betray us, betray us. he, he was, i always was going to make ready, you know, and victoria knew and said, you know, we've been planning this with them all along. and then the new york times puts up a inconvenient, true, true. is it this counter offensive, completely funded by the west,

the quips by the west. and it's been an utter failure. the amount of land that is exchange hands is minuscule. george, exactly. and if, if anything, it's actually the reverse that if you look at the map, the move month on the map since the start of the year since january, the 1st rush, it has it. if anything gain search and you ukraine has if anything lost airfare. so if i ran the calls into question the entire rationale of nato's war, because native as being assuring is now all of this here is what fantastic progress your brain is making a rush as being the great it is humiliated, being driven out. and none of that is actually happening and, and therefore you gotta say, well, all these lives are being sacrifice for watch. exactly. i'm, you do it because the rational and that is gonna be a particular in the united states. you know, the politicians that, wow, this is great, you know, we're getting such a, you know, the front desk like victory for the,

i know americans are dying and the russian military is being degraded when you look at the maps in a rush, the military is not being degraded, god knows how many your brain is of di, tens of thousands full, no games in territory whatsoever. so what's the in game here? i mean, they, you basically have to admit, nate, ukraine cannot win this war. ukraine's only hope is if nato gets involved in this, go directly the image that brings up the question george, i mean, i would say this is a nato army inches manned by ukrainians. okay. and it does have a british and american, another nato advisor. so i, i would, i would tweak the site, nato cannot win this war unless they want to go to the ultimate escalation. martin jump in. that's the warning thing. this is the question now is, what is the next level? you know, when you have the new york times, basically a metric i'm directing as republican audience because it's largely

a right witness. but it's not so sympathetic to the present. but demonstration when a new, what times is basically trucking actual to the st. listen. can we win this war and they also has a cause no account. then what's the next best scenario? you know from not winning. and they don't have the also. and they also seems to be just to keep, funneling more and more money, but way more arms. i'm now and so let's keep wants to talk about setting up joint production ventures in the ukraine. more money for him and his couple, you know, this makes sense. um, there was a notion in congress just 2 weeks ago, i think to stump up 24000000000. what do you guys? i think someone's going to correct me, i'm sure, but i think that's been blowing out. it was a red. yeah. and it's temporarily. it'd be, they go through this could boot the feet are about closing down the government. you know, i've gotten used to it, but it's, as we're speaking gentleman, the mother speak, it has been turned off, but that's all only for like,

45 days. okay. but it just send a very interesting method. george a d is kind of a semantic thing, but we see a bill, chris, though, maybe we can talk about his over um, the commercial directed at republicans. okay. they know they, natal knows you and it's in, in, in it's uh, um government regime and kim, i know they can't win but they want to avoid losing. i don't know if you see what i mean by that. by not losing. they just keep it going, right? they keep it going and now you have the you, you gave defense. secretary was those given in ends of you to the telling her of a lot of them in which is the well actually we're going to send you k troops directly in till they come back zone and your brain. yeah. will have. uh, you know, if you, if you can naval ships in the black sea, because we're unable power and we know out of fights and, you know, as a, well, that's the, the dramatic escalation. now, i mean, be the, you know, the russians. i think the russians are really liked to take us

a swipe at the bridges. they don't like the british. i mean, i think, you know, we can say that the russians, they don't like the germans, but at least i have respect for the germans. they don't like the americans ever specs of the americas. they don't like or have any respect for the british. so if you can, he really does want to go down to this box. i think we're going to get stones, and i know things that we're going to be able to call in nate's so to bail them out . so, but this is live but you know, it's, it's a of a piece of however ridiculous as low as i live a little is being a shave. there are still directors like this. well, yeah, we've got to do more. you know, we've got to give them all directly involved. i the martin is, is everybody seems in british leaders. so they all kind of, you know, church really incurious. okay. and you know, you see kind of be like churchill now. i mean, i, i, when i read that i was, i thought, come on, this is like the build of babylon. be, i mean, this can be, i can't be serious, but apparently he is. how do you explain that?

i mean, is there any support for and on the ground martin? no, i don't think it's serious. i. i really don't. i think it's just, i'm a new defense minister who was obviously not experience a tool in the don't see a testing. i'm also, i'm feeding this out to his few journalists, you know, who are ready to rewrite his his, his speech is or is, or is, is not since i call and see that i should have been taken very seriously. although i did say on your show, a branch of the very beginning of this company, i did say, i think it was a my from the time before british or american troops would be on the ground. i think that is still a possibility. but in a formal capacity, if, if this madness continues, you know, a sooner or less so, um the idea of taking seriously. the idea of most of the rates of professionals, private soldiers is going to be put into the for is that is going to be discussed at some point because the main problem is lensky has, is, you know, you can list all the miniature problems,

but his main problem is just to go the numbers and so, you know, just recently done this. i would also say he doesn't have the numbers. yes, i agree. let me throw at the jordan to that. doesn't have an air superiority. we had. none of this makes any sense without airs. you can control the hair, you cannot protect your man and artillery and everything else. and the russians simply refused to give them that. okay, and they never will. george? no, that's right. so that's why, you know, he's one shot and that's been clear for a long time is to get laid so directly involved. he has to give them so that they're actually involved in some, uh, shooting well. and um, and there's still a possibility of that that could happen there. you know, we've, we've, we've talked about different scenarios, some kind of a weapon of mass destruction. uh, you know, you play a power plant is destroyed or something like that. but with that put, provoke a direct actually, but other than that, and if you look at this map, you have to realize that you, ukraine, which is something as obvious trains kind of when this will by itself. and then you say they just say, well, why don't you endless?

well then why you're just sending, you know, tens of thousands of troops to the desk. well, that goes to that. so that's the nature. that's been a 2 line where we go to just keep this will going, even though there's simply no prospect of winning and then and then the, the rationale, which is, well, we're weakening. we are degrading russia. we're not, i mean, it isn't happening. so what, when, why you just gaping those go it and well that's, that's this of the people within nato. and that includes the, the, by the most racial as a british government and the number of governments in europe. well, let me just keep it going. well, we have this election now in slovakia that clearly the dissenting voices in europe and a tell you precisely, this is nonsense. this is, this is leading to the police catastrophe. well embark name a weekend. oh,

you know, the nato can serve as much as it wants. uh, and the russian forces and ukraine, and anybody can be a very long term. but one of the things that just not talked about enough and i think is very serious, is that you're, you're, you're having a societal, klaus and ukraine. i mean, you know, you can talk about numbers all you want, okay. and get the men back from europe and you know, and put them in the military. but, you know, literally you, with the greatest society down so much, then it to ends up being a total 3 ball collapse. and then then what do you do? and, and i and i, i don't personally, i don't think the russians want that, i think told me, or some are really, but it's best and it's something to ponder and it's really dark. but he said the rush of all wind, but it will be an ugly victory. and that's the, that's why i think the ugliness is the societal collapse of ukraine. it will be a no man, so nobody is going to invest money in that at all. go ahead, but we are, we are any of the is the pollutants that doesn't want that as much. one of the reasons why it doesn't go with lion and just filled out invasion. it doesn't need to, as it was, i think,

written in the new york times piece that you're referring to. i think the also mentioned that pitching does not need to do anything over the light, doesn't need to do any full attack. he's got time on his side. the idea is we just sit and wait and we watch the ukrainian release. i mean time model is just basically implode on itself and that's already happening. and you talk about this as a, as a breakdown. nobody is more conscious of that. and so let's give self to lensky knows that politically, he's losing power. he's losing improves and i think the board and ministration also knows that. and i think the way out the all from the american commentators always talk about, but never elaborate, you know, to, so the, all from could be origin change in ukraine and you take advantage of a new person in to actually start a whole new process, a piece totes, you know, the americans are pushing the landscape to hold as the leg since next year is resisting and for good reason. he knows the ethics. there's

a different political logic and i'm going to actually give different state to george because this has been his mantra for a year and a half 20 months. is that it's going swimmingly for the americans. george, why should they worry? okay, why don't you pay me and that's willing to fight. things are cool. we're good. don't really exactly that. and the, that the american leaders have a lot of this, of the many education, which is, i know americans are dying and we're making a lot of money, the only, honest contractors. and then it goes all the private equity funds, all the hedge funds there will making money. there will be compensated by american tax with american taxpayers oppose getting screwed over level to losing money, but nobody really cares about them. the other thing is i don't think they want to get rid of the landscape, is precisely what we're talking about earlier is joe, is he's the boss like iowa by, you know, however much you can bring up the subject of not as a, he's a do how can it be possible? it is a building not this is that you do get you've loss of the hour, but uh,

so i think is far too useful for the americans. is leading ukraine to complete the past of the, the americans now, well know this, but they don't care about that. he's making them a lot of money. so i don't think i have any additional getting rid of him. yeah, i don't think they have a pension program for him because he won't be around to collect it. okay, that's all the time we have gentlemen, i think my guess americans and in budapest and i think our viewers for watching us here at ortiz the next time. remember the prospect rules the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion. by how of tired vision with no real opinions.

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