of the 2nd of all, the way it is if something was very important and supporting american peterson and the different countries of space in the world. again, this is the confusion of point. so this has been very important, a lot of security on 3rd c and the guns happens in the nation. the thing is, i'm sure, maybe, and the american maybe. so this is also very important. things are not the, the most abusive because it shows the, especially in this area where you don't mind the lights are not homelessness picked up by the americans. for example, the sound is have been for ages the, the women installed the certainly it use, it will be, i don't know, this is the duplicate. it does all mean when do you want to subject me and you want to push on you, but i'm digit this by no human rights these and put the on the media and, and the pro ration of to it was definitely very, i won't accept the

h caught paying just off to the bribery scandal with the us senate. so with some egyptian officials, i mean, does a lot diminish washington standing when it comes to dictates and to other countries? what's right and wrong when it comes to morals. a look at the ability to sort of books a box in my mind. so i mean, everybody went about that back as, as additional them. but the point for what the doctor is with us and you have the few days. but if i, if i was just getting the sign on the phone from the us, or sometimes it makes on republicans and that's it. but when it comes to companies, they want to come in the want to impose sanctions. they don't want to explore to on remember even when visual specials be based on the fees, the similar effect, an impersonal by the congress to suspend it to solve any problem. if we don't see

them in the shop, i'm sure i know we will fix the old place, so we have to send them to the issue of human life is not be taking serious. well, it's definitely an ala carte approach to morales. the i would agree with you the i had to get speech is more in depth, especially about the adoption of elections that are going to be coming up in december. but that's the time that we have for now. thank you so much. that was said, subject political on this and that is how things are looking for now will be bought at the top in the meantime, cross to up next to ukraine, the counter offensive waiting support. sit tight, enjoy the the, [000:00:00;00]

the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the cross software. all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. the tide appears to be turning against the crane. the counter offensive is a stunning failure. future western funding for the proxy war is in doubt and european voters and started to vent their displeasure for a conflict designed and promoted by their leads. is this the beginning of the in the cross talking ukraine and the west? i'm joined by my guess, larry johnson in tampa. he is a managing partner at burg, associates and a former c. i. a analyst and us state department counter terrorism official. in

belgrade we have stephen diets. he is a research associate at build rates institute for european studies and in sydney, we crossly simone wake up. he is a political activist as food and a contributor. and hosts of the ozzy costs loc show on t n t news radio or a gentleman cross. i've roles in effect, that means he can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. let's go 1st and larry in tampa. well, it looks like the western, the leads project known as ukraine is hitting some speed bumps. is it, is i be, is it fair to say this is the end of the beginning? are i being too optimistic, larry? no, i think it's, they are the, the, the key thing is how long will the west continue to try to pour money into this? that's the only thing that's keeping you create a float without a western aid. so they will last a week. and so what you're starting to see in washington is what was once unified

support has frayed and frayed significantly. the congress is now. at least some members of congress are willing to use ukraine and some leverage and the amount of funds that once were readily available have shrunk. so yeah, we're, we're looking at the, the, the light at the end of the tunnel is not a non rushing training. steven, let's go to you and, and bell. great. i mean and let's talk about your neighborhood. slovakia had an election. mr. pico, his good. come out on top of be very much expected though. at the very last minute about the exit polls said something different. there's some kind of shenanigans going on there, but at least for the time being his party, one way hungry is in the same category here. what's going on with the so called western unity of the brain war is. busy only an avatar for a bigger picture, and that is the end of the parasitic system, the end of near colonialism, which is happening everywhere. and of course,

it's happening in, in europe, in eastern europe, in particular. the small box that you've just mentioned just had enough of, uh, being bullied by brussels and by the united states. to be quite frank. uh, and constantly, uh, ordered to give more and more of their weapons money. and everything that is needed for the globalized cost, which is the ukranian war. and the, they had enough, they simply had enough, so they've bolted somebody who wants to land this kind of a rental status that's loc. yeah. as well as many other, most of your being countries come towards a towards washington. so now what we see is only the beginning of the process that will continue. however, i do expect that there will be a backlash. i think that the, the, the system that is pulling up barnesville, do every thing create more use only in order to preserve what they have. i

absolutely agree with you. they're not gonna go down without a fight, no way. and they head to mon will not give up easily. let's go to sydney some updates. one of the interesting things about this is we're talking about with slovakia and hungry. and we had a politico in the last new cycle come up with 2 stories in politicos. probably the most pro war outlet and there is out there. no arms left for ukraine in europe and also funding crunch is coming here. and these are the most pro war people ad political here is a sign of the times that there will be beginning to think about changing the situation. go ahead and sydney a little. i think that this is a race to the bottom. what we're going to say next is a competition between western powers west and the latest to get out of the conflict 1st. it's a matter of who's going to be holding the baby loss. and for example, in australia,

out prominent style been easy just yesterday williams and he's sending in the drying systems, the crime. and everyone in australia was saying, well, hang on a 2nd, on the american signing this stopping money. the british, the germans, hunger is lucky. everyone is turning their backs. and the problem is through this trying to have been able to use these on the very heavy criticism. because as trends that want to be left last housing, the baby and facing, for example, a russia. but suffice it on the right or with it, with the coalition of whoever has left that the smart laid is out there. the people in charge of wisdom, countries who have a little bit of a foresight. well, they can say that this is a very good opportunity to withdrawal, to say stop and get out of the situation before they left on the run with the landscape. well, larry and anyone, that part of the so called coalition that well withdraws will be punished by the united states friend or foe larry in the united states has been a want to know,

charlie, you know, there was a saturday night live skit several years ago with christopher walken and even the every time you come out the band was playing and, and we tell them we need more cal bill. yeah. well, i remember that. yeah. that was all the waiting day to ourselves. that's a long time ago, but it's a good one. yeah. keep going, yeah, but because that's been the western strategy they call for more cal, but we did, which it's just a matter of you only get the right weapons, the system and package and in the hands of ukrainians. then they'll be able to run off with it and defeat the russians. and it doesn't matter whatever weapon system is, is sent over whether it's the em triple 7 artillery pieces, or the high mars, or the f. 16 or the m one abrams tank or the leopard or the challenge, or you don't have trained ukrainian 2nd, operate that equipment. and then the russians have affective fire from both

artillery, fixed wing aircraft. they're destroying it, right and left. so there's not the west has this military fantasy this been based upon, you know, 30 years of beating up on what i call little round people around the world, who didn't have our tillery who didn't have fixed wing aircraft. now they're come confronting a kind of war that they haven't, nobody alive has seen it. the last time they saw anything like this was in world war 2. on the back thing. we didn't have drones. well, it's steve and then then, you know, there are collective wisdom here. it, it tells me this is just the graph this, keep it going on as long as i get a funded. okay. mean they, the outcome is obvious here. okay, how we get there? that's a different story, but as long as the money is there, why not take it? the outcome is obvious, but what i am afraid of is, uh the, uh, let's say a soccer therapy or the shock event that might, you know, flip the attention so of ukraine is over. now let's move to some other spot. i mean,

nobody is asking today what happened with the uh, with the whole a coffee thing and uh, it odd reports about certain vaccines being that lead to or not. because now we have this big war and a lot if something else comes and then nobody will even notice that you grain is as the it does is faded away somewhere in the horizon. so what i think is that every trick in outside of the boat will be used in order to prolong the situation because it has the money is definitely over. and the countries all over the world and the peoples are all over the world are in this i would say a liberation movement. and they're trying to and are successful in, in, in the, in fighting grow this a new colonial system. but that is why i think we might see some, some events uh that, uh uh, that's my tried to divert attention. so what i'm looking at now is the region of

caucuses and, and the pacific. because it seems to me that maybe even the. busy because where i am, uh, because it seems to me that after the fail counter offensive, there's a desperate need to divert rushes energy and also the do to try to ruin the coalitions that are trying to be formed. especially i think that the middle eastern salt focuses locals are volatile, which is why thing that the, the attention of not only the united states, but also great brands and even more. and some other western countries are being focused on, you know, somebody, one of the things also that i'm worried about is a false flag operation. because i think that's the last card that the u. s. can play, we had north stream, but there are some other things they can do just to divert attention into it, make it the, you know, a pro democracy against the talker. so you get that message back online,

go ahead and send me the russians. they make strongly careful and heads off to the russian military and the leadership in russia for how careful they've been. they have been almost 0 attacks on civilians and people in the west understand that even the initial stages of especially the russian people are sympathetic because they still have the full marks of the russian armies being on least you know, world war to install the sports. the policy was that evidently was not true, and people in the west, in australia, for example, they say now that russia is the good guy. and i want to add to the opinions that definitely the opposition in the west, particularly in australia, is very growing, gets expanding. and in terms of the back of the look down as the 1st mandates in relation to the kinds of vaccines. people do not trust the government. people don't trust the government at all. now that there's a trend in australia. you've got people who support funding zelinski. well they

support locked down by support. ready very masks, they support the yes to the referendum which is coming up in australia and 7 days. and on the other side, the majority. now the growing majority, you have people who are saying no to the ability to governments referendum no to anything. the government's trying to propose not to all of the ad, to tell terry measures which the government takes and that to the doctor, nation of children. not to all this propaganda, which is taking class notes and most importantly, not through supplying any weapons, any estrada weapons or any is tried in money of a safety, a crime. it's probably the lowest now pauline in relation to support for a stratum development of the war. and, and that's a great thing for us. it's a terrible thing for you crime. but it's also a great thing for australia, because australia is a sick of seeing the demilitarization of australia, australia doesn't have a lot, just try, doesn't have any weapons. let's try to send him triple 7 systems drugs. me solves even a bush. last is

a 2500000 dollars age and they started simply does not have as the weapons to be involved in a world like this in the decline i'm, i'm glad you brought up coby, because the, a, cobit and ukraine. these are a lead agenda is that we're not popular and no one voted on them. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go into a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine and the west state without the we are in contract, the land of fire breathing volcanoes. volcanoes vividly capture the imagination and they define our lives much more than you would expect. so what are they capable of and what makes contract as volcanoes stand up the phone if you missed the charlotte. the problem,

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of the welcome back across. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter live else remind you we're discussing ukraine and the west. the ok. let's go back to larry in tampa. just to kind of stress the this is an elite agenda. i thought it was really quite interesting is that we had the election outcome in slovakia and then we had joseph burrell in care of saying, you know, europe a, b, u is behind the ukraine. i mean, you have, you know, the electorate saying one thing, and then you have the so called foreign policy person, who is the food essentially. and mr. mcgrew saying he's speaking for all of the you . i mean, you can't get more of a contradiction than that. go ahead. larry the, the united united states and nato dollar, really, they're struggling with at the you because they had this plan and it was a plan based on hope. well that they thought that they could put enough product

that number one, they built ukraine up as a military. they could defeat russia at least in their minds. they didn't really look at it appropriately, but that's another matter. the 2nd, they thought to put and add very weak support, that the russian economy was running on fumes. you know, the famous that says it's a country masquerading as a gas station. and what has happened in the course of confronting russia and imposing both the economic sanctions and then throwing every thing they have from a military standpoint, short of nuclear weapons, or putting nato troops on the ground. it's all blown up in the face. and the notion to put it in nato troops on the ground would mean that they were more effective fighters than ukrainians. it's just nonsense. it's ridiculous because the fact of the matter is we have a 30 year history now of watching us troops and nato troops. and places like iraq

and afghanistan spell took, well people who did not have the same kind of intelligence support and so is surveillance, capabilities and weaponry. and so here in the dark thing here is the ukrainians. are actually taking advice from these clowns. yeah, it was, i'm putting these plans that have not one that conflict. i mean, again, you know, see partners and not appear power. i see that, you know, one of the things that is very curious here is that as the counter offensive has failed, one has to wonder if russia is going to take advantage of it. one could make the argument then slowly, but surely what the special military operation is succeeding. but you know, there, i'll be honest with you living here in russia, there is frustration. russians feel that they have the capacity to end this and they would like to see it. and stephen, the russians were reluctant from the beginning. i mean, this might sound ridiculous, but basically,

i think we came to this point because russians were exhausting every possible way to just not escalate. so what they did, they went through this means could raymond score of for 7 or 8 years and uh they were tricked. and uh at the end they had to resort to military intervention, which was obvious back in 2008. when in bucharest they decided to, to integrate the ukraine and georgia, which was a direct a recipe for it is authorized for a future war. that is happening right now. so what the west did is actually forced russia to completely, i would say this for or destroyed the uh, combined ukrainian natal forces on the 30 to are very old, the former soviet republican crane. i think that this will only mean this, this part of the global war will and waved russian troops in kia, of, and probably on the bulge border. same on in, in,

in sydney here what i think it was last week of foreign minister law brock said the west, what's the, there's a conclusion in ukraine on the battlefield. and he said, well, that's fine with us here. and i, and i'm agreeing with what we heard with steven here. i mean, the west doesn't want peace, they never talk about peace. they only talk about rushes defeat, which is not going to happen. so, you know, all of this western support for ukraine is destroying ukraine. go ahead and send me a i think what the problem is that the west was never really, truly committed to fighting russia. it was a little bit of interest signaling. somebody will go, well, i know somebody come on. no, i'm no, i, i, i, well, i wouldn't have the variation on that. they, they wanted to fight russia, but they wanted someone else to do it. i think that's the whole, that's what it was began, but here keep going. go ahead. exactly what i mean. they were happy to say ukrainians died and these mess cemeteries that are well that when you cry, once these territories liberated,

we need to have monuments stand blocks to those. the training and soldiers decided these men died because of nights or is actually night to be killed. these hundreds of thousands of ukrainians all around the country. very sad because russia never wanted that. we know the right the why the russians start the new diversion. in fact, russian troops on the 24th of february, 2020 to many of the restaurants in for said don, should i do grinding soldiers at all? because we expected them to surrender. we'll come and join outside. we were filled with the you for yeah, from crime. yeah. and that was the expectation. and at the end of the day, now the night to has gone, it's price. it's shutting the whole world, but it's, it's weapons uh inferior. it's tactics that inferior russia, on the other hand, images out of this conflict as a very strong country. it's the most a because i strong this, russian, david bane military production levels are back to where they were in the soviet

union dies. russia has the most ad drive attack and defense systems in the world, because what i said, that is, be a good job. you will, of course, but russia has the experience rush of the on the country in the world that has been using drugs and also defending against drugs and such a capacity. so we emerge at a be special with depression, with russia being the much well prepared out of any country in the world for a future logic conflict, which is probably around the corner. this is probably a very similar situation to the soviet finish wall, which preceded the 2nd world war the right by try to cool web. it was necessary to have some mistakes, learn some mistakes, costly, but then it improves deposition in the future. so russia is most prepared out of all the countries now, and i think roughly is in very 5 morales is most important thing. the russian people are rallying behind the president, the russian knew it series reading and russia is. and it's, it's sort of a post itself of track this page, the sofa of these today, and then use the f as be reported that it ran and come, jessica was arrested and stripped of his russian citizenship. now this is

a very interesting development that this is happening, and they're actually now stripping people of russian citizenship for a extremism for calling for the murder of russians or a tax on russia. and of course, as i surprised at this man was an ex ukrainian who received directions as exhibited 14. so within russia inside is fantastic. the you can cite the advancement and rushes receiving all these hidden look bonuses cruising started with certain objectives, demilitarize. and then that's cation of the price, but he's also dealing with arise a whole wave of nights or countries the externally. so any lovely appalling estrada, even if they've all been demilitarized. yeah, well, larry, that also this conflict is, is revealed the what's happening in nazi occupied canada, which is a fact which is a, a topic of another program which i've already done. but, but it's very interesting we, you know, we heard from some of them that you know, the russians have learned from their mistakes. i agree. well,

natal learn from its mistakes, larry. now there's a flat learning curve. yeah. what kind of the, a real resistance. in fact, i, i am aware that you, the us military right now has been carrying out some exercises there preparing to go to war with china. i made, it sounds mad. it sounds insane, but they have not learned anything from this conflict in the war and ukraine. they made the calculation number one, recognize ukraine, represented. even though it wasn't an official member of nato, it represented the 2nd largest military force in nato. and they sincerely believed that they could launch it against russia, that the, the russians would collapse because the russian military, according to the western intelligence, was a hollowed out shell. only lead with people who had been conscripted against their will and were a bunch of criminals anyway. and that it would just rapidly collapse and implode, plus russia didn't have any ability whatsoever to produce muscles that fire one or 2 and it'd be done as well. it was all

a lie. and what so shocking about this is that the west, the western intelligence did not correctly identify the real capabilities of russia had. and what to do. and so now they've, they've single handed, at least, destroyed what was a us led international order. and have now created the post world war 2 thing is done, it's dying. and we're, and we're witnessing that the rise of a new genuine both type all the world. well, it's steven, you're, you're living in europe. i mean, what has the average european citizen gotten from all of this? i mean they're always saying sacrifice the lead, say sacrifice may never sacrifice the leads. never. okay. and but well, you know, what is, what are people in slovakia? what in hungry in poland, in, in your country? what it, what is the uh, the upside of all of this. i can't see any non 0 serves being given into wars with natal during the 9th. these are probably an exception to the rule. but in europe

1st, they were fed with propaganda and i thing now they're fed up with anger because of the living standard is flowing. and there is no point and no progress from the uh, from the standpoint of where they begin with that ukraine is defending the free world. i mean, the old basically the, the, the, the old mess. busy busy spartans being individualistic, europeans who are fighting against these hordes from, from, from a design. so that was exactly what people are use basically, again. yeah. i, yeah, that's absolutely right. we've been here before. keep going, keep going. i mean, at the same, where's the same? no european identity or been, excuse me, just look at the nazi propaganda in the countries outside of germany occupied by the germans or allied the through the germans. it looks exactly the same to,

you know, your opinion unit, the, against the, the, these, the evil 100 miles from the east and so on. so i think that the, this is all falling apart. and at the same time with the global. and actually the mobile is to drive the folding. i think we are seeing already, and we'll see more and more on internal disputes and a god. those wants to be quite honest in the future a when it comes to western european society is in particular because uh, the leads are, uh, have a time and again failed. their holders failed their citizens. and as somebody we'll have to uh, to be responsible for this, and i think that the citizens will try to do so. however, these societies are quite divided among many lines within themselves. and that is why i think we expect some kind of growth in decades of mathematics a style. well, i mean, well, well, well i'll, i'll be very modest. i, i'll be happy just to see the end of nato that would like,

i'll take that record when i can get it. okay, that's all the time we have, gentlemen. i want to thank my get some belgrade can, but, and, and sidney. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time, remember, prospect rules the the,

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