watch it because it might just change the way inside the . the hello and welcome to cross side were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. the tide appears to be turning against the crane. the counter offensive is a stunning failure. future western funding for the proxy war is in doubt and european voters and started to vent their displeasure for a conflict designed and promoted by their leads. is this the beginning of the in the prospect to ukraine and the west? i'm joined by my guess, larry johnson in tampa. he is a managing partner at burg,

associates and a former c. i. a analyst and us state department counter terrorism official. in belgrade we have stephen diets. he is a research associate at build rates institute for european studies. and in sydney we crossing simone wake up. he is a political activist, student contributor and host of the ozzy comstock show on t and t news radio gentlemen cross, i girls that i think that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. let's go 1st and larry in tampa. well, it looks like the western, the leads project known as ukraine is hitting some speed bumps. is it is a big, is it fair to say this is the end of the beginning, or i'm being too optimistic, larry? no, i think is there the, the, the key thing is how long will the west continue to try to pour money into this? that's the only thing that's keeping you create a float without western aid. they will last a week. and so what you're starting to see in washington is what was once unified

support has freight and afraid significantly, the congress is now at least some members of congress are willing to use ukraine and some leverage and the amount of funds that once were readily available have shrunk, so now we're, we're looking at the, the light at the end of the tunnel is not a non rushing training. steve, let's go to you and, and bell. great. i mean, and let's talk about your neighborhood. slovakia had an election, mr. pico, his good. come out on top, would be very much expected though, at the very last minute about the exit polls said something different. there's some kind of shenanigans going on there, but at least for the time being his party, one way hungry is in the same category here. what's going on with the so called western unity of the brain war is. busy only an avatar for a bigger picture, and that is the end of the parasitic system,

the end of near colonialism, which is happening everywhere. and of course it's happening in, in europe, in eastern europe, in particular. the small box that you've just mentioned, just heading off of uh, being bullied by brussels and by the united states. to be quite frank. uh, and constantly, uh, ordered to give more and more of their weapons money. and everything that is needed for the globalized cost, which is the ukranian war ended. they had enough, they simply had enough. so they've bolted somebody who wants to land this kind of a rental status that's loc. yeah. as well as many other, most of your being countries have towards a towards washington. so now what we see is only the beginning of the process that will continue. however, i do expect that there will be

a backlash. i think that the, the mobile is system that is pulling up bars. we'll do everything create more use. busy only in order to preserve what they have, i absolutely agree with you. they're not gonna go down without a fight, no way. and they head to mon will not give up easily. let's go to sydney some updates. one of the interesting things about this is we were talking about with slovakia and hungry and we had a politico in the last new cycle come up with 2 stories in politicos, probably the most pro war outlet and there is out there. no arms left for ukraine in europe and also the funding crunch is coming here. and these are the most pro war people ad political here is this a sign of the times that there will be beginning to think about changing the situation? go ahead and sydney a look, i think that this is a race to the bottom. what we're going to say next is a competition between western powers west and leaders to get out of the conflict.

first. it's a matter of who's going to be holding the baby loss. and for example, in australia, out prominent style, but easy, just yesterday, williams, that he's sending in the drying systems, the crime. and everyone in australia was saying, well, i got a 2nd on the american saying this stopping money. the british, the germans hung aries lucky, everyone is turning their backs. and the problem is through this trying to have been able to use these on the very heavy criticism because as trends that want to be left last housing, the baby and facing, for example, russia. but suffice it on the right or with it, with the coalition of whoever has left to the smart latest that the people in charge of wisdom, countries who have a little bit of a foresight. well, they can say that this is a very good opportunity to withdrawal, to say stop and get out of the situation before they left on the run with zalinski . well, larry and anyone, that part of the so called coalition that well with drugs will be punished by the

united states friend or foe larry in the united states has been a want to know, charlie, you know, there was a saturday night live skit several years ago with christopher walken and even the every time you come out, the band was playing and, and we tell them we need more cal bill. yeah. well, i remember that. yeah, that was all the wayne day to ourselves. that's a long time ago, but it's a good one. yeah, keep going. yeah, but because that's been the western strategy they call for more cal, but we did which it's just a matter of you only get the right weapons, the system and package and in the hands of ukrainians. then they'll be able to run off with it and defeat the russians. and it doesn't matter whatever weapon system is, is sent over whether it's the em triple 7 artillery pieces, or the high mars, or the f. 16 or the m one abrams tank or the leopard or the challenger. if you don't have trained ukrainians 2nd, operate that equipment. and then the russians have the effective fire from both

artillery, fixed wing aircraft. they're destroying it, right and left. so there's not the west has this military fantasy this been based upon, you know, 30 years of beating up on what i call little brown people around the world who didn't have artillery, who didn't have fixed wing aircraft. now they're coming, confronting a kind of war that they haven't, nobody alive has seen it. the last time they saw anything like this was in world war 2 on the back, then we didn't have drones. well, if even then, then, you know, there are collective wisdom here. it, it tells me this is just the graph this, keep it going on as long as i get a funded, okay? mean they, the outcome is obvious here, okay, how we get there? that's a different story, but as long as the money is there, why not take it? the outcome is obvious, but what i am afraid of is, uh the, uh, let's say a soccer therapy or the shock event. that might, you know,

flip the option. so ukraine is over now let's move to some other spot. i mean, nobody is asking today what happened with the uh, with the whole a call the thing. and uh, if are the reports about certain vaccines being deadly true or not? because now we have this big war and a lot if something else comes and then nobody will even notice that ukraine is just the, it is faded away somewhere in the horizon. so what i think is that every trick in outside of the boat will be used in order to prolong the situation because the hazard money is definitely over. and the countries all over the world and the peoples are all over the world are in this i would say a liberal ration movement. and they're trying to observe successful in, in, in the, in fight in grab this a, a new colonial system. but that is why i think we might see some,

some events that a, that's my tried to divert attention. so what i'm looking at now is the region of caucasus, and, and the pacific. because it seems to me that maybe even the bulk is where i am. uh, because it seems to me that after the fail counter offensive, there's a desperate need to divert rushes energy. and also the do to try to ruin the coalitions that are trying to be formed, especially i think that the, the middle east of itself focuses locals are volatile. which is why thing that the, the attention of not only the united states, but also great britain, even more and some other western countries are being focused on. yeah, it's about one of the things also that i'm worried about is a false flag operation. because i think that's the last card that the us can play. we had north stream, but there are some other things they can do just to divert attention into it,

make it the, you know, pro democracy against autocracy. you get that message back online, go ahead and send me the russians. they make strongly careful and heads off to the russian military and the leadership in russia for how careful they've been. it have been almost 0 attacks on civilians and people in the west on the stand that even the initial stages of especially the russian people are sympathetic because they still have the full marks of the russian armies being on least you know, world war 2 style that i scored stood policy was that evidently was not true. and people in the west, in australia, for example, they say now that russia is the good guy. and i want to add to the opinions that definitely the opposition in the west, particularly in australia, is very growing. it's uh, expanding and in terms of the back of the look, the honestly uh, forced mandates in relation to the kinds of vaccines and people do not trust the

government. people don't trust the government at all. now that there's a trend in australia. you've got people who support funding zelinski well they support locked down by support. ready very masks, they support the yes to the referendum which is coming up in australia and 7 days. and on the other side, the majority. now the growing majority, you have people who are saying no to the able to easy governments referendum no to anything. the government's trying to propose, not to all of the ad, to tell terry measures which the government takes not to the doctor, nation of children, not to all this propaganda which is taking class notes and most importantly, not to supplying any weapons any as trying weapons. when he's tried in money of a safety, a crime, it's probably the lowest now pauline in relation to support for a stratum development of the war. and, and that's a great thing for us. it's a terrible thing for you crime. but it's also a great thing for australia, because australia is a sick of seeing the demilitarization of australia. estrada doesn't have a lot. just try, doesn't have any weapons. let's try to send him for those 7 systems. drugs. me

solves even a bush. last is a 2500000 dollars age and they started simply does not have as the weapons to be involved in a world like this in the decline. i'm glad you brought up co would because the a, cobit and ukraine. these are a lead agenda is that we're not popular and no one voted on them. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go into a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine and the west state without the november 22nd 2022 outraged orthodox christians confronted ukrainian security service offices, looking entrances and exits. the keys oldest along the street were looking for at

least russian spies among the monks. we may have seen us uh and yours and why not only reason for the brutal crack down one churches parishioner sits on a song about the throne being reason enough to condemn any orthodox christian attack, imprisoned and even killed. i'm sure what i mean. i shot my hands to pick us company was store new, we installed a new install of the i see the used to use the same to knows december the new phone i used to miss dawn. this saves you need to just saw the, the russian

states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best in most all sense and up in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians cruising and split the r t smart net keeping our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the fitness center. for what question did you say a request for check the welcome back to the prospect for all things are considered. non peter la belcher

manager were discussing ukraine and the west, the okay, let's go back to larry in tampa just to kind of stress the. this is an elite agenda . i thought it was really quite interesting is that we had the election outcome in slovakia and then we had joseph burrell in kev saying, you know, europe a, b, u is behind the ukraine. i mean, you have, you know, the electorate saying one thing, and then you have the so called foreign policy person who is of the food essentially. and mr. mcgrew saying he's speaking for all of the you. i mean, you can't get more of a contradiction than that. go ahead, larry. but the united united states and nato all are really, they're struggling with at the you because they had this plan and it was a plan based on hope. well that, and they thought that they could put enough product that number one, they built ukraine up as a military. they could defeat russia,

at least in their minds. they didn't really look at it appropriately, but that's another matter. the 2nd, they thought the food ned very weak support, that the russian economy was running on fumes. you know, the famous that says it's a country masquerading as a gas station. and what has happened in the course of confronting russia and imposing both the economic sanctions and then throwing every thing they have from a military standpoint, short of nuclear weapons, or putting nato troops on the ground. it's all blown up in the face. and the notion to put it in nato troops on the ground would mean that they were more effective fighters and ukrainians. it's just nonsense. it's ridiculous because the fact of the matter is we have a 30 year history now of watching us troops and nato troops. and places like iraq and afghanistan spell to quell people who did not have the same kind of intelligence support. and so is surveillance,

capabilities and weaponry. and so here in the dark thing here is the ukrainians, are actually taking advice from these clowns. yeah, it was, i'm putting these plans that have not one that conflict. i mean, again, you know, see partners and not a peer power. i see that, you know, one of the things that is very curious here is that as the counter offensive has failed, one has to wonder if russia is going to take advantage of it. one could make the argument then slowly, but surely what the special military operation is succeeding. but you know, there, i'll be honest with you living here in russia, there is frustration. russians feel that they have the capacity to end this and they would like to see it. and stephen, in a rush, those were reluctant from the beginning. i mean, this might sound ridiculous, but basically, i think we came to this point because russians were exhausting every possible way to just not escalate. so what they did,

they went through this means could raymond score for 7 or 8 years and they were tricked. and uh, at the end they had to resort to military intervention, which was obvious back in 2008, when in bucharest, nato decided to, to integrate the ukraine and georgia, which was a direct, a recipe for a disaster. and for a future war that is happening right now. so what the west did is actually forced russia to completely, i would say this for destroyed the combined ukrainian natal forces on the 33rd here of the former soviet republic or the crane. i think that this will only mean this, this part of the global war will and weighed russian troops in kiev and probably on the bulge border. same on in, in, in sydney here what i think it was last week of foreign minister law brock said the

west, what's the conclusion in ukraine on the battlefield? and he said, well, that's fine with us here. and i, and i'm agreeing with what we heard with steven here mean the west that's. ready want piece, they never talk about peace. they only talk about russia's defeat, which is not going to happen. so, you know, all of this western support for ukraine is destroying ukraine. go ahead and send me a i think what the problem is that the west was never really, truly committed to fighting russia. it was all about adventures signaling someone. ready well, i know somebody come on, no, i'm no, i, i, i, well, i wouldn't have the variation on that. they, they wanted to fight russia, but they wanted someone else to do it. i think that's the whole, that's what it was began, but here keep going. go ahead. exactly what i mean. they were happy to say ukrainians died and these mess cemeteries that i will lever your crime. once these territories liberated, waiting to have monuments stand plaques to those do credit and soldiers decided these men died because of nights or is actually night to be killed. these hundreds

of thousands of you tried in all around the country. very sad because russian that will, one thing that we know the read, the why the russians start the new diversion. in fact, russian troops on the 24th of february, 2020, to many of the russian from for say, don't shoot at ukrainian soldiers at all because we expected them to surrender will come and join outside. we were filled with the you for yeah, from crime. yeah. and that was the expectation. and at the end of the day, now the night to has gone it's vice dates shun the whole world, but it's, it's weapons inferior. it's tactics that inferior russia, on the other hand, images out of this conflict as a very strong country. it's the most a because i strongest russians ever. bane military production levels are back to where they were in the soviet union dies. russia has the most ad drive at tech and defense systems in the world because why i said that is, be a good job. you will,

of course, but russia has the experience rush of the on the country in the world that has been using drugs and also defending against drugs and such a capacity. so we emerge out of the special with depression, with russia being the much well prepared out of any country in the world for a future logic conflict, which is probably around the corner. this is probably a very similar situation to the soviet finish wall, which preceded the 2nd world war the right by try to cool web. it was necessary to have some mistakes, learn some mistakes, costly, but then it improves deposition in the future. so russia is most prepared out of all the countries now, and i think roughly is in very 5 morales is most important thing. the russian people are rallying behind the president, the russian knew it series reading and russia is it's, it's sort of a post itself off track this page, the sofa of the said i then use the f as be reported that it ran and come. jessica was arrested and stripped of his russian citizenship. now this is a very interesting development that this is happening. and they're actually now

stripping people of russian citizenship for a extremism for calling for the murder of reference or a tax on russia. and of course, as i surprised at this man was an ex ukrainian who received references in 714. so within russia inside is fantastic. the you can cite the advancement that rushes, receiving all these hidden unlocked bonuses, period and started with certain objectives, demilitarize. and then that's cation of the crime, but he's also dealing with arise, a whole wave of nights, or countries the east and the reason why they love to be a poland, as trying to even if they've all been demilitarized. yeah, well, larry, that also this conflict is, is revealed what's happening in nazi occupied canada, which is a fact which is a, a topic of another program which i've already done. but it's very interesting we, you know, we heard from some of them that you know, the russians have learned from their mistakes. i agree. well, natal learn from its mistakes, larry. now there's a flat learning curve. yeah. kind of the, a real resistance. in fact, i,

i am aware that you, the us military right now has been carrying out some exercises there preparing to go to war with china. i made, it sounds mad. it sounds insane, but they have not learned anything from this conflict in the war and ukraine. they made the calculation number one, recognize ukraine, represented. even though it wasn't an official member of nato have represented the 2nd largest military force in nato. and they sincerely believed that they could launch it against russia, that the, the russians would collapse because the russian military, according to the western intelligence, was a hollowed out shell. only lead with people who had been conscripted against their will and were a bunch of criminals and away. and then it would just rapidly collapse and implode plus rush. it didn't have any ability whatsoever to produce muscles that fire one or 2 and it'd be done. well, it was all a lie. and what so shocking about this is the west. the western intelligence did

not correctly identify the real capabilities of russia had. and what to do, and so now they've cruise the single hand at least destroyed what was a us led international order and have now created the culture world war 2 thing is done, it's dying. and we're, and we're witnessing the rise of a new genuine, both type all the world. well, it's even, you're, you're living in europe. i mean, what has the average european citizen gotten from all of this mean? they're always saying sacrifice the lead, say sacrifice may never sacrifice the leads. never. okay. and but well, you know, what is, what are people in slovakia? what in hungry in poland, in, in your country? what it, what is the, uh, the upside of all of this, i can see any non 0 serves being given into wars with natal during the 9th. these are probably an exception to the rule. but in europe 1st,

they were fed with propaganda. and i thing now they're fed up with anger because the living standard is flowing and there is no point and no progress from this the, from the standpoint. busy where they begin with that ukraine is defending the free world. i mean the old basically the, the, the old of miss. busy spartans being individualistic, europeans who are fighting against these hordes from, from, from a design. so that was exactly what people are use basically, again. yeah. i, yeah, that's absolutely right. we've been here before and keep going, keep going. i mean, at the same, where's the same? no european identity or been, excuse me, just look at the of the nazi propaganda in the countries outside of germany occupied by the germans or allied. but through the germans, it looks exactly the same that you know, you're being unit the against the, these evil 100 miles from the east and so on. so i think that the,

this is also holding a barge and at the same time with the global and actually the globally so drive the folding. i think we are seeing already, and we'll see more and more of internal disputes and a god. those wants to be quite honest in the future a when it comes to western european society is in particular because uh, the leads are, have a time and again failed. their holders failed their citizens. and as somebody we'll have to, uh, to be responsible for this. and i think that the citizens will try to do so. however, these societies are quite divided among many lines within themselves. and that is why i think we expect some kind of growth in decades of mathematics. a style. well, i mean, well, well i'll, i'll be very modest. i, i'll be happy just to see the end of nato that would like, i'll take that vicar when i can get it. okay. it's all the time we have gentlemen,

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