the on to something on a computer or device the . the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered non peter roosevelt . the western world's ukraine project is facing some stark and probably insurmountable obstacles here is failing badly on the battlefield. western aid is reaching limits and there is never been popular support for this elite driven project. the biggest loser is the crate. the process in care of this dilemma,

i'm joined by my guess prime realistic and bank ought to use a do a political analyst and a former us marine in lisbon. we have alexander vero, he has international law analyst in here in moscow. we have sonya of london and then she is an independent journalist across type roles that are in effect that means contributing. tell me one, i always appreciate when you go to 1st to brian brian, we have talked many times about you that you claim this conflict and more or less. i think you and i have been in agreement and i think you, we, the trajectory that we saw for this conflict is playing out because we're seeing the, the, a, the, the, the room for maneuver narrowing very, very much way we have have this got a budget issue in the united states, which is divided the republican party and soon will divide the entire western world . the great interesting thing about the budget crisis in the united states and the election in slovakia, which is the, the, the winter there is questioning the entire ukraine project. the important thing

that's happened just recently is that you can talk about what is wrong with this policy. debate is beginning to happen 20 months in, but maybe now you can actually in polite society debate this go ahead, brian. and oh i, i think it's the veneer falling off of this entire project, just like every other us, more of aggression or proxy more. it's always accompanied by huge amounts of propaganda. and that propaganda can only sustain itself for so long before the reality is on the ground. start to break through, people start to wake up to it. and when people begin waking up to it, they cannot go back to sleep to these lives. since we haven't, i mean we have talked about the short supply weapons and ammunition and how this proxy was on sustainable, how russia is ramping up its own military industrial production. all of this has made this unsustainable. the lies are not working anymore,

and there's nowhere else to, to hide what is really happening. so now they have to confront the end. that's where things become very ugly. alexandria our guest in lisbon. i've been watching, they've been different narratives from the beginning. the democracy versus a talk or see ukrainian sovereignty. this is all about china, you know, they keep changing their rhetoric. but the most recent one last few days is we need a preg maddox solution. i don't know what that means, but there was, there was a pragmatic approach to this before the complex started and it was addressing the wrongs of the men's process and rush. it presented its own blueprint and it was ignored. that was pragmatic. go ahead, alexander. yes, yes indeed. well actually the european union, even this week he took a are thinking about taking increasingly both steps because they feel that the balance is going wrong. and support is beginning to fail due to the exhaustion and

lack of capacity to be dressed yet due to 50. this is why they wanted to get together in q and even the speech is used absolutely bold and disconnected from reality varies the widespread perception that people are beginning to, to realize that we lose coming. and this is a clear sign that the west is far from the right side of the story because the domain of discourse continues to be going to rise more by the interested in mass is by the rooster phobia rather than piece, for example. so is thinking about you being union for all these, but the little guys is just another desperate attempt to create that gets you message that through the resume we received. yes. can do them encourage, let them go through this. they took advantage of the child, some of the goals message of you being acknowledged, carrier from leads, but the girls or do need to get this message off lease, but it does love you but stock good speeches that favorite anerio base and

friendship. and suddenly, we seem to be in union making a speech demand, english, and last, they no longer able to discuss that through guidance. did you great? and they want this piece control by you and the, the, what i see only is that burrell what you describe, this being a garden, like, you know, it's getting closer. it goes to the beginning, the journal. yeah, well it, so anyway, i, you know, this whole statement about lisbon to look at. and so that was and the lead about a box and i just don't think she knows very much about geography. so i think it's more stupidity then a policy a. but sonya, one of the most important thing that's happened, we had this little locked in election, and we had the electorate there reject the use policy nato's policy when it comes to ukraine, probably joining hungry. there's a lot of rumblings in poland, but that could be for different reasons because of the upcoming election here. but you can't talk about european unity anymore. i don't believe it was ever there

because nobody ever voted on it. sonya, i know that's right. and also uh, yesterday there was a huge demonstration in the day before. so how about we did unification. date, the 3rd to code it is there was a huge demonstration in berlin because the cation of germany in 1991. but after that, because they said around $3000.00 plus people, okay, now today it was known that uh schultz is not going to send powers of its to, to print so many a gets a little bit frightened as well. and as you mentioned, yeah, is the time she is soto, she even thinks the $565.00 days of the year. i think so. but i think the unification in euro is it's gone. recently, there was also an interview with ukrainian levy. and she said on sky use that, okay, i'm saying well, according to them, but they only have gains one percent of land in the account to benson.

and she also, so the weapons from euro, the flow now is stopped somehow. so the mice, those phone to cover ocean see until spring next year. so, i mean, this is clearly a sign and the signs in the european union, the coming winter people will rise on more. as we can see in the, in germany now, even empties in germany are targeted. they are, the wall is in hospital and the well at least vital she, i think she went to my, your car or something, but there's a lot of things going on and you missed occasion for your brain. i think it's slowly, but surely it's gone. well now the only western by a was never there. so well put here, you know brian, we had um zalinski and he, he does mostly p r work. i don't know what else it means to be president of, of ukraine. but he, i think it was a tally and media, he said, he admits

a quote that or is fatigue. and of course, he's looking at the money for off and the spigot cut from the, from the west, which is in question i, i don't think you know that that's over yet. i think there's the, the, the differences in the united states in the us congress will be resolved one way or another. and it will be more appropriations may probably not as much, but they will continue because the, the, the democrats can admit defeat on this. they want this war to continue, that's it. they're not, they don't want peace. they've never wanted peace. and they've only wanted a damaged russia, which america not getting. so they're just going to continue what they're doing. brian, a, unfortunately only a small handful of people in the us congress actually do one piece. a lot of people who are opposed to project ukraine are only opposed to it because it's not working out anymore. it's prospects look very dim and they want to pivot toward china and then repeat this whole process with a nation with an even larger population of larger military or larger industrial

base. and they want to start the process all over again. i think the money issue will be resolved just as you say. i think the, the west is going to run out of arms and ammunition that they can send and at least and sufficient amounts to ukraine long before they run out of money into us. prints money out of an error, although this whole proxy war and the sanctions that accompanied its targeting russia. this says put in danger of the unit power system. all of its financial mechanisms that as a sort, as a catalyst to spring multi polar ism forward and help put another foot in the grave for, you know, fall, arisen. yeah, alexander, that's what i get. i guess one of the most mystifying things for me during this whole entire process is the position of europe. i mean, all it does is damage europe's economy. it's prospect's and, and it's standing in the world and i don't see it recovering. i mean, we have um,

this program i referred to him as sergeant schultz when he addressed the united nations. nobody listened to him. nobody wants to hear with the europeans, have to say in the global south, alexander this. and that's typically the situation even in europe being union. for example, if we take german, yes, a, as an example, an entire branch of the german economy, the category industry, which provide jobs to more than half a 1000000 people. he's on the verge of glass. this is just one clear sign of what's happening to europe. no one believes any more on the european union's leadership. and you're being union member states leaders. why? because you don't have to have no longer people like showing people like uh, the only dishes from the, from the sixties and from the seventy's to really those you don't even have a new market at dash or what do you have? only presently, each one of these people who wants to be x to create these directions on your a b s. but they,

they lack the knowledge. they left the korea's math and they know nothing about strategy. and that's why people are not showing signs of set to ration. goals reveal a growing weakening of you're being support for your brain. and now we are beginning to see grass opening up in the logs for unity in the last few days. for example, we have seen a political changes a lot yet that political change was strongly to us, but the situation and you bring even the situation in united states. when i read the declarations by the republican house that grew from the house, i guess i'll speak again, mccarthy. she was thrown into one of the reasons expressly mentions was these eastern support for you right now we will see what happens on sunday bolden, but to be legally pressed. you are, we are beginning to see barclays without much expression appearing as part of the solution. and the most fast a possible solution because people are increasingly fed up with the data and the 2

weeks they have been pushed to this. is it presently the, the, the situation, for example, the, even the financial situation in the west will large extent, easy, small. i'm sorry, i have, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on campbell dilemma state with our team, the, the, the, the

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the, the welcome act across software. all things are considered. i'm funeral bell to remind you we're discussing kids dilemma the . let's go back to sonya here in moscow. over the last couple of days, i've come across some very interesting, fresh demographic. i'm research into, into ukraine, and by some estimates, not by all, but by some estimates. ukraine's a population is half. it was in 1991 and it is getting smaller. it is richie, it could reach the point of 20000000 people and had 50000000 and 1991. so this is all what western health is doing for ukraine is creating it,

has ukraine is expiring, the, the adapt, a demographic catastrophe on like anywhere else in the world? sonya here in moscow. yes, of course, as a household population, the house is gone to europe. you know, the issue that i think about 4000000 are now in russia itself. i mean like the regions most console, but i mean that and there's so many also so many people died. so when he sold us, we see over, you know, the on tell it brand new can see is clearly the new crime is losing beverly on the battlefield. so that's also a big part. so maybe this is actually what they want. they want to empty elizabeth to crime as we were told that i so much our members, maybe it's true or not. i cannot clarify it myself, but they want to the left and ukraine because you know, it's heavy for thailand, so the green comes from down. we all know that of course it's mainly from eastern

part of that, but there's no rush guy. so they billed us. but it started set to see that all these people are gone. and i mean, the majority, i think we will not go back to doing the training or 2 boxes brochure at all. they, they, they will stay, you know? so this is maybe the whole idea because, you know, colon has some aspirations for the western box. so do you claim that will be poland states that they were going to be seen with that? so i think you can will not exist anymore. and maybe yeah, if you usual, maybe sooner we don't know. well brian, that you know, this is something you and i have talked about from the very beginning. i think after everything is said and done, there will be some country called ukraine, but it's certainly not going to be what it was in 1991, 2014 or 2023. brian. absolutely, and i think this continues with the theme of who is the, the, the biggest victim here and who is creating and driving all of this from 2014 the

onward, the us re shaped ukraine in to a battering ram to be used against russia. it provoked this more deliberately their think tank documents talked about deliberately provoking russia to extend it over, extend it. and now we see these terrible consequences playing out in ukraine for the ukrainian people. we also see the european economy taking a hit because of this, this the sanctions and then the united states itself, i essentially isolating itself on the global stage and sabotaging for all of these advantages that it's held economically financially. for decades. of all of this tells us who is, who is the real threats to the collective west. it is the united states that it's board policy. it is not in russia, and it is not china beyond that. and as far as the fates of ukraine, it's still very hard to tell. i think there,

there could be some residence remains of what you used to be ukraine. but i think rush, i was going to continue pushing they, they obviously have the advantage. they have no reason to stop, but west has not given them a reason. stop. so right now i think it's still hard to tell, but what will remain is is going to be very small. well, alexandra, whatever does remain after everything is said and done, it will be d militarized. let me repeat that. it will be d militarize. ok. russia is not going to allow nato to, to do the crane project to point. now they will not allow outset, also cells and burg last week you let the cat out of the bag. it was all about nato expansion. i mean, it's really quite incredible, you know, somebody has on the internet a montage of 3 minutes. so, you know, it's not about a lot about nato and then, well, of course, it's all about nato. so at least the, the, you know, they've drawn the curtain back on that it's all about destroying russia. okay. but

is that what people really want? okay, i don't think so. you know, actually what i feet are and what i read here in the area is not the same as what the shape of your view. you'll be in union and nato. actually, i've tried to spread the trying to inspire people in order to have a dress. yeah. and the most important thing is not to bring your brain to the level to the same level as well. if you apply that, you mean you don't have to be, but the main goal here is to find the c drug should be able to see trust. yes. and then get the western influence interest. yeah, this is the major message that they want to share. but yeah, what i would love to highlight is the fact that what you said, either it's the musician not only off the brain, but presently russia is the meaning, the rising nato itself. because nato countries are also losing their deal at the other capacity even to protect it, to defend themselves from the point for us. even days ago,

there was on the news. so be saying that the, even these are at least had to help germany to keep the entropy fast systems and the operational in order to allow that in case of emergency, they would have the means to protect themselves. so this is one of the most important lessons after you get from here is the meal zation from that going cell and losing the whole war on the golf link, that they are presently waging inside the wage against russia. however, there is a good point you from the russian side. also, we see is that what do you get boating and all the gradually they are not going after the problem patients that they're receiving from the western side because the west ones rushing to lose their minds. and finally, to get to bold on this coffee and they are work moderately and patiently waiting for the union and they took to, to the right thing. so yeah, i think, you know, that it's been a huge question all during the complex, what was of the most plan,

the russian plan because, you know, historically they think of the red army is a steam roll are going across here, a pull that is not happened and it's a very different comp, like than one would have expected sonya, you know, this militarization of here of i find it really interesting. first of all, i don't think voters want to pay for it. and i certainly don't think young men want to join up and fight russia. i just don't see it. i don't see with this younger generation at all. i there, they may be politicized, but not on this issue. sonya no, right. especially in the western countries like another lens, germany, i don't think they want to price for a, even for europe itself to you know, this. so this is, this is something what will not happen. the leaves are plenty and you will be new, new all the talk about it and you will be knobby, but i don't think it will get to the ground. so how it, it will not happen. and at the reservation of, uh, i think it will happen to some nato,

a lot spark because as we speak about it all the time, you're is losing bethany and these goals, like it's the, it's the u. s. i o. s coal. you're calling me from the us, but let's hope that this will change. so how, because, you know, euro is destroying itself and the weapons they have sent already the last one. i know how to use it. it's crazy. so they run out of the weapons and also, you know, the north stream pipeline is gone. so germany is a big mess of the country or uh, or the netherlands. this is another for, they are the most uh, russian. i hate things country. uh the each. uh, because we have the billing and the 817, uh this austin. so they still try, you know, still trying and saying because of the induced a promise to the f sixteens. but the people, the majority of the people, they don't, they don't believe unit anymore. if they even released it,

i don't think so. so i don't see it happening and i see it happening this days somehow. the terrorist that's most likely will happen in the near future. you know, brian, one of the, you know, you're a former us marine. i don't know what a part of the us means you were in, but i mean it will, although you last year and a half. i mean, during the 1st summer of the conflict, the cleaning army was decimated ends. and after that, they started rebuilding a nato, a army with ukrainian soldiers, but nato equipment from all the various countries. they haven't equate the acquitted themselves very well. and particularly the american ones very expensive, but particularly useless weapons here. and this is a great embarrassment. that's why i don't think they want to send f sixteens and stuff like that because they'll drop out of the sky like flies. so they, they really acquitted themselves very badly. very expensive junk brian. absolutely there's, there's so many factors that go into this. the fact that they sent

a whole variety of equipments to crime, they didn't just send one type of vince chief lighting vehicle or armored personnel, carrier, or tank or artillery. they send everything everyone has ever developed since the end of world war 2. they send all of that to ukraine. each one of those pieces of equipment requires different types of training, maintenance, or some, in some cases, different types of ammunition and fuel. they have to coordinate all of this. it makes already complicated logistics, even more complicated, whole reason why militaries are standardized as to avoid this problem. and then you have the problem with training p. i don't think people appreciate how much training goes into creating even a basic infantry man or tank or, or tillery man that could take up up to half a year to do. and they tried to not just transform con squared a few crating and con squared ups. and to uh, basic infantry or, or other basic roles. they tried to create entire brigades with $4000.00 men each

and created into a combined arms for us. this is something that would take years, they tried to do this in 2 or 3 months, and the results are very predictable, absolute catastrophe on the battlefield. then. yes, a lot of destroyed nato equipment. okay, alexander will give you the last word. what's the next step? alexander and lisbon, the next step will be trying to get more radical speeches in order to bring down the rest of which will is highly unlikely to happen in this minute. i'm not going to say that these in possible release, highly unlikely. but what i see is that they don't have a weight back, they can't actually, they don't typically as it here in your b unit in nato. so they really try to continue support providing support to bring as long as their own economies in the repressed systems, allow other water and then wait until they some kind of point where they can reach out to russia and finally celebrate any kind of peace deal. but i'm

a new without alexandra what it'll be i, i've already predicted it, they'll say, well the we, we stopped the russians before they got into paris. we won. okay. they'll have some kind of crack pot line like that. anyway, folks, we have run out of time, i want to thank my guessing band called lisbon and here in moscow. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our to see you next time. remember, across the the miss the charlotte and the bone, the soldier monument was erected in 1947 in the estonian capital by the soviets. authorities originally built above the burial site of troops remains its memorials of the soldiers who gave their lives in world war 2 was the risk of the department

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