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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered on peter roosevelt. the western world's ukraine project is facing some stark and probably insurmountable obstacles here is failing badly on the battlefield. western aid is reaching limits and there is never been popular support for this a leak driven project. the biggest loser is the crate. the process in kansas dilemma, i'm joined by my guess prime realistic and bank ought to use

a geo political analysts and a former us marine in lisbon. we have alexander guerrero. he has international law analyst, and here in moscow we have sonya of london. and then she is an independent journalist right across side girls that are in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want me. i always appreciate, let me go to 1st to brian brian, we have talked many times about you guys, ukraine, this conflict and more or less. i think you and i been in agreement and i think you, we, the trajectory that we saw for this conflict is playing out because we're seeing the, the, a, the, the, the room for maneuver narrowing very, very much way we have have this got a budget issue in the united states, which is divided the republican party and soon will divide the entire western world . the interesting thing about the budget crisis in the united states and the election in slovakia, which is the the,

the winter there is questioning the entire ukraine project. the important thing that's happened just recently is that you can talk about what is wrong with this policy. debate is beginning to happen 20 months in, but maybe now you can actually in polite society debate this go ahead, brian. and i think it's the veneer falling off of this entire project, just like every other us, more of aggression or proxy. more. it's always accompanied by huge amounts of propaganda. and that propaganda can only sustain itself for so long before the reality is on the ground. start to break through, people start to wake up to it and when people begin waking up to it, they cannot go back to sleep to these lives. since we haven't. i mean, we have talked about the short supply weapons and ammunition and how this proxy was unsustainable, how russia is ramping up its own military industrial production. all of this has made this unsustainable. the lies are not working anymore,

and there's nowhere else to, to hide. what is really happening, so now they have to confront it and that's where things become very ugly. alexandria our guest in lisbon. i've been watching the, the different narratives from the beginning, the democracy versus a talk or see ukrainian sovereignty. this is all about china, you know they keep changing their rhetoric, but the most recent one last few days is we need to practice matic solution. i don't know what that means, but there was, there was a pragmatic approach to this before the complex started and it was addressing the wrongs of the minutes process and rush. it presented its own blueprint and it was ignored. that was pragmatic. go ahead, alexander. yes, yes indeed. well actually the european union, even this week he took a are thinking about taking increasingly both steps because they feel that the

balance is going wrong. and support is beginning to fail due to the exhaustion and lack of capacity to be dressed yet due to 50. this is why they wanted to get together in q and even the speech is used absolutely bold and disconnected from reality. there isn't a wide spread perception that people are beginning to, to, to realize that we lose coming. and this is a clear sign that the west is far from the right side of the story. because the domain scores continues to be kind of drives more by d, interested in masses by the rooster phobia rather than piece for example. so is thinking about you being union for all these, but blue guys is just another desperate attempt to create the catchy message that through the resume we received a scan. did them encourage lifting copy this? they took advantage of the child. some of the gold message off you're being acknowledged, carrier from leads, but the girls or do need to get this message off leesburg to love you,

but stock good speeches that favored anerio beast and friendship. and suddenly, we seem to be in union making a speech demanded english. and last, they no longer able to discuss the guidance piece of grain. they want this piece control by the you and the, the, what i see only is that burrell what she described. this being a garden, like, you know, it's getting close that it goes it up, becoming the journal. yeah. well it, so anyway, i of this whole statement about lisbon to little gone. so that was, and the lead a bad a box. and i just don't think she knows very much about geography. so i think it's more stupidity then a policy a. but what sonya, one of the most important thing that's happened, we had this lebowski in election. and we had the electorate there reject the use policy. nato's policy when it comes to ukraine, probably joining hungry. there's a lot of rumblings in poland, but that can be for different reasons because of the upcoming election here. but you can't talk about european unity anymore. i don't believe it was ever there

because nobody ever voted on it. sonya, you know, that's right. and also uh, yesterday it was a huge demonstration and the day before. so how about we unification? date the 3rd to cover this, there was a huge demonstration in berlin. because of unity cation of germany, in 1991. but after that, because they said around $3000.00 plus people. okay. uh now today it was known that uh schultz is not going to send the powers of its to, to print. so maybe the gets a little bit frightened as well. and as you mentioned, yeah, it is. the time she is soto, she even thinks the price on that $65.00 days in the year. i think so. but i think the unification in europe is it's gall. recently there was also an interview with

him ukrainian, the v, as she said on sky used the thing went according to them, but they only have gauge one percent of land in the account to and she also, so the weapons from euro, the flow now is, is stopped somehow, so the mice will cover up until spring next year. so i mean, this is clearly assigned and the sides in the european union. the coming winter people will rise on more. as we can see in the, in germany now, even empties in germany are targeted. they are, the wall is in hospital and the well at least vital she, i think she went to my, your car or something, but there's a lot of things going on and unification for your brain. i think it's slowly, but surely it's gone. well, now the only western part, it was never there so well put here, you know brian, we had um zalinski and he's and he does mostly p r work. i don't know what else it means to be president of, of ukraine. but he, i think it was a tally and media,

he said, he admits a quote that or is fatigue. and of course, he's looking at the money dross and the spirit cut from the, from the west, which is in question i, i don't think you know that that's over yet. i think there's the be the differences in the united states in the us congress will be resolved one way or another. and that will be more appropriations, may probably not as much, but they will continue because the, the, the democrats can admit defeat on this. they want this war to continue, that's it. they're not, they don't want peace. they've never wanted peace. and they've only wanted a damaged russia, which america not getting. so they're just going to continue what they're doing. brian, a, unfortunately only a small handful of people in the us congress actually do one piece. a lot of people who are opposed to project ukraine are only opposed to it because it's not working out anymore. it's prospects look very dim and they want to pivot toward china and then repeat this whole process with

a nation with an even larger population of larger military, a larger industrial base. and they want to start the process all over again. i think the money issue will be resolved just as you say. i think the, the west is going to run out of arms and ammunition that they can send in at least and sufficient amounts to your cram long before they run out of money into us. prince money out of thin air, although this whole proxy war and the sanctions that accompanied its targeting russia. this has put in danger of the unit power system. all of its financial mechanisms. it as a sort as a catalyst to spring multi polar ism forward and help put another foot in the grave for, you know, paul arisen yeah, alexander, that's what i get. i guess one of the most mystifying things for me during this whole entire process is the position of europe. i mean, all it does is damage europe's economy. it's prospect's and,

and it's standing in the world and i don't see it recovering. i mean, we have um, this program i referred to him as sergeant schultz when he addressed the united nations. nobody listened to him. nobody wants to hear with the europeans, have to say in the global south, alexander and this, and that strictly the situation, even in europe being union, for example, if with the german yes of the, as an example, an entire branch of the german economy, the category industry which provide jobs to more than half a 1000000 people. he's on the verge of collapse. this is just one clear sign of what's happening to you. no one believes any more. on the european union's leadership and european union member states leaders. why? because you don't have, you have no longer people like showing people like, uh, the only dishes from the, from the sixties and from the seventy's to really those you look, you're going to have a new market at that said, what do you have? only presently, each one of these people who wants to be x to create these variation on your a,

b s. but they, they lack the knowledge, they let degrees man, and they know nothing about strategy. and that's why people are not showing signs of set to ration. bowls reveal a growing weakening of you to be support for your brain. and now we are beginning to see grace opening up the logs for unity in the last few days. for example, we have seen the political changes of black yet that political change was strongly to us, but the situation and you bring even the situation in united states. when i read the declarations by the republican house that grew from the house again. so secretary mccarthy's she was thrown into one of the reasons expressly mentions was these eastern support for you right now we will see what happens on sunday in poland, but these look trust you are, we are beginning to see barclays without much expression appearing as part of the solution and the most fast a possible solution because people are increasingly fed up with the data and the 2

weeks they have been pushed to this. is it presently the, the, the situation for example, the, even the financial situation in the west village extent. easy flow i, i'm sorry i have, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on campbell dilemma state with our team the, in the, in the year of 1954,

the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house supported the corrupt above the governments of southern vietnam. 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. defend the gun was confident that the victory would be on the american side, due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese, during this war into total, held for the occupants. unable to cope with the guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burned to all alive the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including $210.00 children, became a tragic symbol of this war, all and all, during the whole period of this conflict,

the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the puppet regime inside on fall. however, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 vietnamese people became the victims of america in aggressors. the welcome backed across stock were all things are considered. i'm futile belcher mind. you were discussing kids dilemma the . let's go back to sonya here in moscow. over the last couple of days, i've come across some very interesting, fresh demographic. i'm research into,

into ukraine, and by some estimates, not by all, but by some estimates. ukraine's a population is half. it was in 1991 and it is getting smaller. it is richie, it could reach the point of 20000000 people and had 50000000 and 1991. so this is all what western health is doing for ukraine is crating. it has ukraine. is expiring the, the adult demographic catastrophe on like anywhere else in the world? sonya here in moscow. yes, of course. as a household population on the left, the house is gone to europe. you know, the flat. i think about 4000000 are now in russia itself. i mean like the regions most collin, so i mean that and there's so many also so many people died. so when he sold us, we see over, you know, the alternative around you can see is clearly that the crime is losing beverly on

the battlefield. so that's also a big part, so maybe this is actually what they want. they want to empty elizabeth to crime as we go by so much our members, maybe it's true or not, i cannot clarify it myself, but they want to the left and ukraine because you know, it's very short. charlotte and so the green comes from burial. know that of course is mainly from eastern part of the does not recognize the us, but it started set to see that all these people are gone. and i mean, the majority, i think, will not go back to, to your training or 2 boxes. sure. i know they, they, they will stay, you know. so this is maybe the whole idea because, you know, colin has some aspirations for the western box of ukraine that will be poland states that the dc was that. so i think you cream will not exist anymore. and maybe a few years or maybe sooner we don't know. well brian, that you know, this is something you and i have talked about from the very beginning. i think

after everything is said and done, there will be some country called ukraine. but it's certainly not going to be what it was in 1991, 2014 or 2023. brian. yeah, absolutely. and i think this continues with the theme of who is the, the, the biggest victim here and who is creating and driving all of this from 2014 on where the us re shaped you. praying in to a battering ram to be used against russia and provoke this more deliberately. there thing tank documents talk about deliberately provoking russia to extend it over, extend it. and now we see these terrible consequences playing out in ukraine for the ukranian people. we also see the european economy taking a hit because of this, this the sanctions and then the united states itself essentially isolating itself on the global stage and sabotaging for all of these advantages that it's held

economically financially. for decades. all of this tells us who is, who is the real threats to the collect, the west. it is the united states that it's board policy, it is not in russia, and it is not china beyond that. and as far as the fates of ukraine, it's still very hard to tell. i think there, there could be some residence remains of what you used to be ukraine. but i think rush, i was going to continue pushing they, they obviously have the advantage. they have no reason to stop, but west has not given them a reason. stop. so right now i think it's still hard to tell, but what will remain as is going to be very small. well, alexander, what ever does remain after everything is said and done, it will be d militarize. let me repeat that. it will be d militarize. ok. russia is not going to allow nato to, to do it the crane project to point. now they will not allowed on outset. also

skelton bird. last week you let the cat out of the bag. it was all about nato expansion. i mean, it's really quite incredible. you know, somebody has on the internet, a montage of 3 minutes a, you know, it's not about, maybe it's not about nato and then, well, of course, it's all about nato. so at least the, the, you know, they've drawn the curtain back on that i think it's all about destroying russia. okay. but is that what people really want? okay. i don't think so. you know, actually what i hear and what i read here in the area is not the same as what the shape of your bill. you'll be in union and nato. actually, i've tried to spread the trying to inspire people in order to pay dress. yeah. and the most important thing is not to bring your brain to the level to the same level as well. if you're like that you, you don't have to be. but the main goal here is to find the fee drug should be able to dc trust you. and then get the rest of the employees interest you. this is the major message that they want to share. but yeah,

what i would love to highlight is the fact that what you said, either east immunization not only off your brain, but presently russia is the milling, the rising nato itself. because nato countries are also losing their ability of their capacity even to protect it, to defend themselves from the forwarding threats. even days ago, there was on the news, something saying that the, even these royalties had to help germany to keep the systems and the operational in order to allow that in case of emergency, they would have the means to protect themselves. so this is one of the most important lessons after you get from here is the merely thought i'd station from that going cell and losing the whole war on the golf leak, that they are presently waging inside to wage against the rush. you. however, there is a good watch you from the russian side. also, we see is that what do you mean? 14 and all the grandly. they are not going after the publications that they're

receiving from the west and said because the west was rushed to lose their minds. and finally, to get the ball on this coffee. and they are work moderately and patiently waiting for the union and they took them to the right thing. so yeah, i think, you know, that it's been a huge question all during the complex, what was the, the ice plan, the russian plan because, you know, historically they think of the red army is a steam roll are going across here, a pull that is not happened and it's a very different conflict then one would have expected sonya, you know, this militarization of here of i find it really interesting. first of all, i don't think voters want to pay for it. and i certainly don't think young men want to join up and fight russia. i just don't see it. i don't see with this younger generation at all. i there, they may be politicized, but not on this issue. sonya read especially the western countries like another. let's do a many of those things i want to price for isn't for you real good. so to where i,

you know this. so this is, this is something was, will not have the leaves are plenty and you are the new need all the talk about it and you will not be, but i don't think it will get the ground. so how it, it will not happen. and, and the name of the conversation of, uh, i think it will happen from day to lots clark because as we speak about it all the time, you're is losing bethany and these goals, like it's the, it's the u. s. i o. a school euro economy from the us. but let's hope that this will change somehow because, you know, you're is destroying itself and the weapons they have sent already the last one. i know how to use it. it's crazy. so they run out of the weapons. also, you know, the north street pipeline is gone. so germany is a big mess of the country or uh, more than that is, this is another for, they are the most uh, rush, i hate things country. uh, the each. uh,

because we have the billing at the age of 18. uh nissan. so they still try, you know, still trying and saying because of the induced uh pro is to the f sixteens. but the people, the majority of the people, they don't, they don't believe unit anymore. if they asian believes is i don't think so, so i don't see it happening and i see it happening that the somehow the terrorist that's most likely will happen in the near future. you know, brian, one of the, you know, you're a former us marine. i don't know what a part of the us means you were in, but i mean it will, although you last year and a half. i mean, during the 1st summer of the conflict, the cleaning army was decimated ends. and after that, they started rebuilding a nato, a army with ukrainian soldiers, but nato equipment from all the various countries. they haven't equate them, acquitted themselves very well. and particularly the american ones very expensive.

they were particularly useless weapons here. and this is a great the embarrassment that's why i don't think they want to send f sixteens and stuff like that because they'll drop out of the sky like flies. so they, they really acquitted themselves very badly. very expensive junk brian. absolutely there's, there's so many factors that go into this, the fact that they sent a whole variety of equipments to crated and just send one type events, cheap flight in vehicle or armored personnel, carrier, or tank or artillery. they send everything everyone has ever developed since the end of world war 2, they send to all of that to ukraine. each one of those pieces of equipment requires different types of training, maintenance, or some, in some cases, different types of ammunition and fuel. they have to coordinate all of this and it makes already complicated logistics. even more complicated. the whole reason why militaries are standardized as to avoid this problem. and then you have the problem with training p. i don't think people appreciate how much training goes into

creating even a basic infantry man or tank or, or tell, or even next to take up up to half a year to do. and they tried to not just transform con, squared up ukrainian con scripts. and to a basic infantry or, or other basic roles, they tried to create entire brigades with $4000.00 men each and created into a combined arms for this is something that would take years. they tried to do this in 2 or 3 months. and the, the results are very predictable, absolute catastrophe on the battlefield. and yes, a lot of destroyed nato equipment. okay, alexander, i'll give you the last word. what's the next step? alexander elizabeth. the next step will be trying to get more radical speeches in order to bring down the rest of which will be finally unlikely to happen in this minute. i'm not going to say that it isn't possible that these highly unlikely, but what i see is that they don't have

a weight back. they can't exit. they don't typically exit here in your opinion of the nato, so they really try to continue to bore providing support to the brain as long as they're on the economies in their depressed systems allow otherwise. and then wait until day, some kind of point where they can reach out to russia and finally celebrate any kind of peace deal. but i'm a new without alexander what it will be. i, i've already predicted it does say, well we, we stopped the russians before they got into paris. we won. okay. we'll have some kind of crack pop line like that. anyway, folks, we've run out of time on, i think my guessing band called lisbon and here in moscow. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c a next time. remember, across the of

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