of the united states is in trouble in europe. it's in trouble with china, and it's in no position to start a new conflict in west asia. if the united states really does try to strike a ron, then the retaliation will be very hard hitting. and it will drive oil and energy prices through the roof, and that will destroy the us economy. the united states political establishment is highly racist. it is very hostile towards the palestinian people. and it shows that by supporting apartheid ethnic cleansing and the concept murder of palestinians literally every day. and usually teenagers find is ray the regime. so the nice easy in no position to accuse iran or anything when they apply to the policy. i mean,

people only gets worse due to the fact that the united states gives this way. we receive full support and iran, as well as its regional allies on not and is not and will not be intimidated by the united states. all the updates from them. it is conflict now going up online at all to dot com, also one arrow and this program as well. but for the meantime, we are currently on stand 5 for the russian for municipal sugar, elaborate off he's going to be holding a press conference shortly off the tool to the secretary general of the arab league . here in most though, we're on stand by for that hope you can stick around and join us for laughter off and his q and a with the, press the

below in. welcome across stock. were all things are considered. i'm futile about the mazda attack on israel from guys, a highlight still again, the plight, the palestinians, living under conditions of blockade. i'm us calls themselves resisting biters while of course, washington calls them terrace. also will they be you adopt the brain in lieu of diminishing american aid the to discuss these issues any more, i'm joined by my guess martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest week russell jordan, samuel, he's a pod cast her at the goggle, which can be bought a new 2 and locals. a gentleman cross that girls and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. all right,

we'll start out with george in budapest. what we have a price is again in the palestine, israel conflict. it's a moving story from us is had a major incursion. something we've never seen before. mass of missile attacks up to 5000 projectiles according to some of the 1st 20 minutes. and then a landing corrosion using some of the parish you, it's and whatnot. so it's very innovative here. and of course, we know what that, how is real is going to respond to this over well mainly. but you know, what is the antecedents to this particular crisis, george, because for my thinking is, is this growing normalization of a is really relations with eric countries, which of course these are countries are, are for getting the palestinian cause and it looks like to me at least i'll come by . mazda is reminding them that they're still there. there's a lot of other issues in play right here,

but i think that is the most important issue at hand right now. george. i agree with you a piece that i think good the, the most immediate cause of this, um, explosion is this um, bite and ministration attempt to expand the abraham accords and to normalize relations between israel to saudi arabia. going together with some sort of an american security guarantee for saudi arabia. i mean, obviously is also the 50 around of us. 3 of the young people are attack rooms exactly to the day. but i think it's also again a, a deeper issue which is that hasn't been any kind of a movement towards in the middle ages. be settlement. i mean, they used to be proposals put forward by western pilots about every president, the remembering the days of the, the mix of administration of the rock, just blind. and then of course, it all culminated in the oslo accords,

which is now 30 years ago as a facility is basically no one has done anything. i mean it's, and basically they, they've known this problem that this problem is festering, there's been no solution. you know, the thing is pressure all, as i've said many, many years ago, each new generation of palestinian states, these really is more than the previous generation. i think is that the, the idea that you can just simply continue like this without any negotiated without any kind of a peace conference without any peace plan was always ridiculous. and it culminated in this upside statement issued by the, by a national security council saying this was an unprovoked attack associated with the paolo. but we can do great. all grow out of the blue. you know, just, you know, that everyone was living peacefully. and suddenly this is an unprovoked attack, but of course it was provoked and this the publication. so the use of doing absolutely nothing. and this allowing the power steering is essentially to be, you know, a crushed out of existence. yeah. well,

i think the only the only parallel where you go back to your, the phrase fun provoked is that the west didn't recognize the self determination of the people who've done best is they don't recognize the self determination. right? so the palestinians, martin here in the region here, what are your, what's your initial reaction? because i guess we all hope and pray that this will be over as destructive and bloody is it's going to be and it will be, hopefully will be soon go ahead. my, you know, i think the feeling is from little from those arabs is, um, this was coming. this wasn't eligible. it was just a question of when you know and jewel dimensions, no one in the west to do the study is i think if you look at what the west did, of didn't do in the last couple of years, which was condemn the acceleration of israel's human rights abuses, atlanta grabs the assassinations. dehumanization of the palestinians. we know which is really picked up in the last 2 or 3 years. i mean, just this year alone. i think the records been broken for the number of

palestinians had been murdered. we saw nothing of trouble from europe in union. if any thing we saw a tacit encouragement from the e u and from the west and in general, to, to go ahead what you're doing, do whatever you need to do to resolve this problem. you know, because you're never going to receive the human rights opprobrium from us listing lee is like missing, you know, who took the really what it was was and, and run with it. and now you know, the consequences of periphery. i don't think this is ever going to end. i'm you talk about the ending in the, in a couple of days time, israel, who create some sort of security and go so it will move in, in a, in a big way. i know. go back to the 2005 period of taken total minutes, occupation, but that's not the end. that's the beginning. well, you know what, i mean, i may have these, you know, it's blowing the grass as they like to cynically say here in that, and that's what the phase that i'm looking at, george as we speak here,

there are reports that has below his injured the fray. if only in a minor way with some missile attacks on, in northern israel. and is this a possibility where this is what her mouth was looking for? i mean, you know, to britain bringing other actors to just basically make a point here just what martin was saying here is that and you were saying is that this has been pestering and we have all of our all through is gentleman, is it we have a radically right wing government and in israel, go ahead george. i think it's quite possible that that was the plan to get to as ball a involved as what happened back in the 2006. um iran obviously which is uh strongly uh, in his bowl as kona they arrive as being very unhappy about this. um, us sell the uh, plan and particularly the whole idea of saudi arabia recognizing israel. i mean, that would be a huge transformation in the, in the middle east,

and particularly as iran is just taking the staff of normalizing relations with saudi arabia and saudi arabia having just been invited into breaks or this is so i was literally rainy is a really will be very happy with this, so i think it's quite likely that his ball i would uh get involved and um the yeah, i think this will be quite a, a, a big, serious conflict. and again, i mean it's, it's, it's comes down to, you know, you, you just call and go on doing what is there it was doing, it, it was, it's not sustainable. i was trying to be in the common sense, this is not a sustainable solution. just the idea of what we can go on doing it, because what about the americans in our going up and we can just treat you any way we want, you know, just, you know, essentially just white be off the face of the a. and that's it. you know, and no, no, no one's going to say blue about it. um, so i think this is a, uh, you know, a total failure of, uh, west and foreign policy. um, i'm good. well, it was very,

very serious conflict in martin. it's also a failure of error, foreign policy. ok. i mean we have all of us look at all 3 of us are h yes. or the arab leaders of always talked about the, the palestinian issue. been so many of them done. they have done very much about it, let's be honest. okay. and this is again from us at the risk of alienating the people in the gaza strip. let's remember israel's retribution is going to be over whelming, but they're, they're up to the, the come us leadership is appealing to the airport world. i mean, you know, maybe your leader is going to be bought off. ok, but don't forget about us. and i think that's deployed right here, much just reminding saudi arabia of its past commitments to the palestinian cons. i was afraid on many levels, not just some countries. and i even from israel's perspective, let me know. i just wrote an article about a week ago talking about the increased alms,

so that is what i was enjoying at the moment. you know, forget about that. no, i mean how to israel. so this high tech was around the world when you got people lining up to say, well, it didn't even protect you because the other thing is you said, how is it gonna protect us against people got much more today than netanyahu, who's calling it their pearl harbor? okay, and but, you know, with united states did, his reaction to pro are ready to go, but anyhow, somebody that proposed to a statement yesterday on sort of such a day and saying it's now well, well, you know, hello, we call it. i think the people has been a little for 75 years, you know, and it is just a bigoted mindset and you can't really blame me when you look at wisdom media. you know, and i'm a wisdom need his own. my own prime minister didn't even lose a heart based in supporting these running these full the rights to defend themselves. amazing up to be amazing. i mean, what do you find these people have? what if there was, there has been this news blackout. i, you know, i'm a journalist, so i've got a, a big in a, a, some, an extra grinding against this,

i suppose. but there's news blackout for something wrong about what's been going on . and by the time, you know, just yesterday, christina and before and cnn did an interview with the palestinian a deputy investor in london. and the for 6 or 7 minute interview or just so you just refused to acknowledge the occupation. it just was, it was, it was something she wasn't gonna be drawing on, you know, so i think it's a failure on the, on these roads sides. but when you talk about the apps, they definitely, um, i think this is pulse. so all of it, but it's part of the story of why the palestinians, if somethings broken, somebody snapped, i'm like, what snapped, why don't part of that frustration is they've seen how they've been completely abandoned by the western world. but even the arrow pub, this now, all lining up the western world talks about with degrees, but a starter and the western values and the burrell chronicles of georgia. the in the box. you see the stinks to happen here. go ahead. well, exactly, and it's very interesting, i mean,

what motto saying about the response in europe and how that has uh, changed just in the pasta. you know, so it's 840 years. i mean, they used to be a distinct distinction between the way that you were bins approaches of at least and the way the americans, the americans, we always not on the, you know, whole, obviously pro, is route. but the europeans always have a very distinctive approach, which is, hey there, this is accounts, they go to the sides of this complex. we need to approach this as there are 2 sides . and it has to be a resolution that satisfies both sides. and hopefully in person the to the to is, you know, the 2 state solution which low preceded was low or mean that was in, back in my, in the 19 seventy's. i mean, there was a europeans embrace that, i mean, i was the, the, the global consensus, the 2 state solution which the europeans at that time, the soviet union and much of the reversible what else to do site. now the or bins, or just essentially just pirating everything that the americans are saying. and

then there's, there's a lot of the but when they've done is what they've done is that we look at jared questionnaire and you know, the engineer and the neighborhood backwards. the palestinians. tony exist so they don't exist. it's not a problem. martin. yeah. don't you over just about the point before you cut me off last time is that when we look at the abraham thoughts, you know, so you have your own goals are part of it. you know the every time cool is of the final insult for the palestinians. you know, who have grown up generations of grown up, excepting that we have the right supportive narrative from a lot of these are countries, particularly in the gulf states, but do they do any sick today? what do you do? anything you know, and um, do you ever have a call? it's august this, this final acknowledgement, the not only are we not going to do anything, but we're going to line up and do deals with as well. you know, to support ourselves or run, but to political agendas and sell the palestinians down the road. you know, like they are just kind of redundant livestock or some sort of, uh they, they, this is, and this is way how we've gotten to this point here. okay. they refused to be

forgotten. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. i'm going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate regarding the russian stage. narrative as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best ingles, all sense set up the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on russia to day and split the r t. suppose next, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question,

did you say steve and twist, which is the government across stock? were all things are considered non duty? well, this is a home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real is the right. it's go back to learning mira cache. you were talking about the abraham sports continue. 5 so i think the big question now, um do i think has it been raised by itself, you're a bit which was just about to sign the advent coaches. do they have anything left and is there any credibility to it now? the sorry for interrupting i rushed as 4 minutes behind me. so i got

off or off, holding a presser off the tools for the secretary general of the arab league here at moscow . let's listen me to spell them. we ladies and gentlemen, did he go? was the we have a hell of talks with the secretary general over the legal rep states. would you do it for those 2 minutes? i will get to the my do soon as we've discussed, strengthening the house corporation between now you've got the russian federation for those of us in september this year for sending me motivated most of them. it has been 20 years still still since ministry in the and the secretary general's office and signed that for a memorandum of understanding and for spokes push the end of this document remains gucho phone foundation for our joint work. most of the lines, the prospect's productive through the sides, the set up an important component as the russian attribution cooperation formulas must agree of upgraded with this is not the it's the last meeting was held in

moscow in april. 2019 can use the buddhist critics here to hand car plans off to that last worth cost offset by the coven. 19 from democrats to yesterday. today, we have re offend, have to have a mutual desire to hold. another meeting on the forum in december this year in the moroccan city of america. for our future, something we both agree that the situation and the world. i'm glad to show in the middle east and north africa. russian is mexico starting strengthening our farm political coordination. 7 more relevant to the, to the, to police with, especially in light of what's been happening, guys in recent days. but it's still in gaza and, and tell us to the entire trees, supposedly 73 i'm going with, we've reaffirmed opposition. that's any sort of violence is unacceptable. maybe senior or sheer verse has is pushing in some yes,

infecting damage. indeed this on the civilian population was still on any side taking women and children. hostages is unacceptable. and both the league and the russian federation, when you sort of it is very cold. she and eunice on the believe with district of oral to suspend order, all fighting, immediately cushion. because i tend to stop talks, we will because i pushing that, you know, stuff like this. so we are gravely concerned that there are hundreds of these. riley's and palestinians have died and a thousands more. i wanted to be able to and send you the gaza strip. i filled out the se system these today and is now been doing this to class videos and talk it over and responding operation by israel country they propose that there is um, a couple of a lot of you going on live on the, on the west bank and there's also

a conflict potential in the 11 on is riley boulder. as i've said, we condemn the resiliency of any kind in violent sort of the recipients of precaution in any form. we and we strongly a goal for a ceasefire, so that so test issues we have said could go through a source of the statements by our western counterparts who sees that i condemn the attack against israel and we expect that they will of key. and we also know he's by the coal for the city is new or process until it needs to be something other than that. but pretty good. i teach you that are pretty strong praises some questions because they say that israel to the stuff you must win and destroy the terrorist and those that us study. and that's that some of this and that when you go to, it has happened to many times during this long, unsettled conflict. so you go to the full set of breakdowns to have happened to

time. and again. and the last of the situation was normalized to the most of what was that i need. they were never removed, but it's, you know, half it's go to the why it's that business abuse to address the root cause of what's undermining disability. we still school in the middle east in the us and we'll get them to left in the affordable list separately. israel palestine problem based on these 2 state formula in accordance with one security council decisions. so i'm just the agreements reached in oslo and agreed to use and then a cool and this would be our piece initiative this month that it would specify anybody's deal with all these decisions. and the book, or books, agreements require a media that's the state of palestine. that's with live. what israel function in piece will send it to the end, the cooperation to for that particular. and we have many times we have found including this is

a person as to the police to me either either by president brutal that we are committed to reaching security as a board in israel and the hosting. there are many russians living in israel, us, and we use news. we are concerned about their fate or making efforts to establish whether with anyone needs any help to was and we are, we will make sure that we provide support to those who want to leave and when you more them so full russia. and once again, most of us, we cannot agree with those who say that security for the boy 6 that he needs must only be insured through a fight against the extreme music. interest of the new police, curious global cit, the mines, the united nations. when you open and look at decisions on the creation of the state of palestine, and here i must mention the destructive policies of the united states and this model that undermine the collective efforts as part of the collected quartets. the

so you, so that is the when the assessment and using the russia us, i'm thinking you this across this, it has this mechanism that was recognized as key field mutual. this is the, for the implementation. missed that there were some of all the policies that are needed to promote the 2 state solution that used to be good. instead of using this channel instead of cooperating with a league of arab states. so united states are trying to monopolize to mediating efforts, but it's still something to use and to divert the dialogue between israel and palestine towards a political settlement and away from the creation of the state of palestine. because a plus misty on what else go to the trying to supplant the security council decisions . you're still interested in buying a discussion of the social problems of the tax stuff and there's the police populations about for this patient, israel, palestine, contest contacts,

had ensuring security on the ground, who says that on a day to day basis. that's cool. with the lots that has that still been no discussion of the creation news of the state of palestine understand was the implementation of the un resolutions. you're pretty much like even if the districts leave, what else do we think it is necessary to actively support the league? a veteran states preview, and you might, has recently proposed to many initiatives cd, including on rap. scuse me, you bringing syria back to the out of the family. and the use of seeing is the so with the scale to the end of the relations between saudi arabia and the rand. nearby shopping, normalized. and there is also some progress if you guys even use the cd it as regards normalizing ties between syria, i'm talking on the phone or if it's all of this stuff, it is a can be made

a reality and hope that so be helpful for sure. i fill out those for the region, the edition, the or but the resolution on the palestinian issue cannot be postponed any longer time still and the decision is made must be implemented. give us less more. we think that the lead developed states publics can play a decisive role, some of questionnaire to put in the normalization, the, for the good of the regional situation. pieces you said you promoting a practical steps a little bit. so that's the issue to create a palestinian state one as outlined in the un resolutions that will co exist as a dispute with israel that will do with these are 1st list even though wow, and the 1st through providing mutual security and a good neighbor shampoo excruciating you still from being put those to just to deal with this is the way to resolve the issues just to see that subsidies arise time and again, and this part of the world we have also discussed,

there's an issue of the syrian settlements and the serious problems in libya, deputies has statehood was destroyed as a result of the 2011 nathan regression. you might have supposedly comes now somebody will switch throughout the course of the assets being made. and let's see if we can put in those relating to restore the state who did, but so far that has been no results. so, but at least here we have discussed those measures to stop slug, shit. and so done, used on the lead diverted states and also has, has some ideas that we are willing to support how pro is giving us as most of them . and we will discuss that initially and phone request of our friends. we also have to inform them. i'm not sure about the situation around the train, but as of the system is the room and you go to our position with regard to various calls for talks to us. and the president putin has stated which our position is and

many times including gets the funds don't qualify for a most recent place. but it's like we never turned downs and they told us proposals . and usually if they're made on a series basis, you know, to, in the form of ultimatums to go to each the video. and now we see a darkness away may affordable as it goes straight to injection of any torque, spike crane motor, as opposed to choose the group. again, these acceptance, propagandist, yep. it doesn't, unrealistic, until they get statements. bonds to lensky host. now i get the flow to my colleagues, show it on the said that it was a, a thank you man is target my dear friend sir, do you love us cortico model? so now allow me to valid. uh, thank you for your husband, but that's more than welcome been my last home and i look up in this country now. it is dear to us that we have for how long and friendly relations with you in

particular relations with the entire world. and of today's meeting was very useful . we talked about a number of serious issues concerning the air of the world and what is happening in the world generals. we have focused on a look on the sick or the la garza and my daughter looked at that one back and they stopped me to an order and was the main thing that we discussed. i would like to say that that was in while lane l. a s, enough time hotels here we are taking was logical and balanced, locked in more positions. got a letter in front, you know, so taking these positions since the very 1st how look up the days of this conflict that i have to escalate it to you over the last few days is if this continues

circle of violence. here's the result of, is that the family or it's in the implementation of the agents and resolutions of the un security council about them, but not the big michelle or to m making this. and we have also worked on overall learned about the results of the yesterday talks and the security council. we are grateful to russia for the position that it is taken regarding this matter. and we also appreciate this position in a long time because the whole issue of the palestine is not something that you've already been cl hill. the flooding one cannot consider these, the letter and confrontation is something you. it goes through deep rooted causes. you'll know that you can shop it for the spinning and on your hook,

one killer can chew law. so let's see. i see the, the most stuck out of future for this was seen and people use their political aspirations, are implemented in the lowest indian state within the borders of the 1966 will be established last lot of full pallets to lift their refusal to follow the 2 state formula and peaceful negotiations. government blockade of palestine, peo, and construction settlements with, unless you will, all of these are factors that, that can not be ignored within the context. and they all want, we are witnessing today that's so alien. and we have hor and too much so many times that the extremist policy is by israel dot com is a time bomb across all venyadi that deprives the region head the for all.