israel, the, now the train iran is the sole cause of the pro and yet, you know, iran had a relationship with him 40 years ago. you always touch it. look at that as a hope for the future that you know, if they can find a way to work together 40 years ago, maybe they can find a way to put all everything aside and fight a peaceful way out. because a lot of people are going to get killed out of this a lot. yeah, larry, it's, it's, it's devastated. you know, i just saw before the things that i'm calling down here. we all get another a pro. now, let's talk a little bit about, of course we're russia we, we wouldn't be until him out quite a little bit, but will the us need to go back as soon as the 18 between now because i live it's close on i is why is well is that will yeah, that's, i'll be that's going to be one of the unexpected outcomes of this. that there was already talked. they were scaling back, that this is now going to 4th. but i guarantee you the members of the us congress. they were going to and stuff that is israel gets put at the front of the line and

then your credit is going to go to the back of the line. and it's going to, it's also going to probably in bold and make and make happen. inspections and accounting. that's something that people like grandpa and others have been pressing for, will finally be acted upon now as part of the bargain in order to deliver, to, to allow you print to have any more walk. it's what the problem there to is you praise, losing all the ground, they're not heavy military success. and this is going to be for trade, i think in the media of and coming weeks as the very, very, to visual and the hangs about. yeah. that are you now, but about 30 seconds left on the clock while i was told to buy clothes the other day. i really think joe biden has been a real, a dresser in his to do not see as lot martha or he's an angry old man. i remember bob gates, the former,

the secretary of defense, he was the director of intelligence when i was at the c i a yeah, he always characterized joe biden is having the unique gift of being able to get everything wrong. if you gave him a choice to many cubic choose a and you'd know the be was the right course of action. now, joe, joe, well, joe biden, in it is the method state now likes the even the mental faculties he had several years ago. and even then he was an angry person and he bought it so that's, that's the manifest now. and they flattery done certain fullness. seattle is, i'm comes to you. but this is a pleasure. so as always, thanks for your time. thank you. all right, so this is a cost though because i'm next you still to check that out. i will be back at the top of yeah. ready the

hello and welcome across the top, where all the things are considered. i'm futile about the mazda attack on israel from guys, a highlight still again, the plight, the palestinians, living under conditions of blockade. i'm us calls themselves resisting biters while of course, washington calls them terrace. also will be you adopt the brain in lieu of diminishing american aid the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess martin j america. she's an award winning journalist,

and commentator. and in budapest we brought the drawer to send me well, he's a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be bought on youtube and locals, right, general and cross lock rules. and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. all right, we'll start out with george in budapest. what we have a price is again in the palestine, israel conflict. it's a moving story from us is had a major incursion. something we've never seen before. massive missile attacks up to 5000 projectiles. according to some of the 1st 20 minutes and then the landing corrosion using some of the parachutes and whatnot. so it's very innovative here. and of course we know what that how is real is going to respond to this over well mainly. but you know, what is the antecedents to this particular crisis george he goes for from am i thinking is, is this growing normalization of is really relations with air of countries which of course, these are countries are,

are forgetting the palestinian cause and it looks like to me, at least i'll come by. mazda is reminding them that they're still there. there's a lot of other issues in play right here, but i think that is the most important issue at hand right now. george. i agree with you piece that, i think good the, the most immediate cause of this, um, explosion is this um, by the ministration attempt to expand the abraham of cards and to normalize relations between israel and saudi arabia going together with some sort of an american security guarantee, so for saudi arabia, i mean, obviously it's also the 50 around of us. 3 of the young people are attack rooms exactly to the day. but i think it's also, again a, a deeper issue which is that hasn't been any kind of a movement towards a middle ages. b settlement. i mean, they used to be proposals put forward by western pilots about every president,

the remembering the days of, you know, the mix of administration of the largest line. and then of course, it all culminated in the oslo accords, which is now 30 years ago as a facility is basically no one has done anything. i mean it's, and basically they, they've known this problem that this problem is festering, there's been no solution. you know, the thing is pressure on the side said many, many years ago, each new generation of palestinian states. these really is more than the previous generation. i think is that the, the idea that you can just simply continue like this without any negotiated without any kind of a peace conference without any beast plan was always ridiculous. and it culminated in this upside statement issued by the, by the national security council saying this was an unprovoked attack associated with the power a little bit with the new grants, all grow out of the blue. you know, just, you know, that everyone was living peacefully and suddenly this is unprovoked, the tax was costing, was provoked,

and this the publication. so the use of doing absolutely nothing. and this allowing the power steering is essentially to be, you know, a crushed out of existence. yeah. well, i think the only the only parallel where you go back to your, the phrase unprovoked is that the west didn't recognize the self determination of the people have done best is they don't recognize the self determination, right? so the palestinians, martin here in the region here, what are your, what's your initial reaction? because i guess we all hope and pray that this will be over as destructive and bloody is it's going to be and it will be, hopefully will be soon go ahead. martin, you know, i think the feeling is from an awful lot of arabs is um, this was coming. this wasn't eligible. it was just a question of when you know and june with dimensions, no one in the west to do the city is i think if you look at what the west did or didn't do in the last couple of years, which was condemn the acceleration of israel's human rights abuses,

the latter grabs the assassinations. dehumanization of the palestinians. we know which is really picked up in the last 2 or 3 years. i mean, just this year alone. i think the records been broken for the number of listing is i've been murdered. we saw nothing, a total from europe in union. if any student we saw a tacit encouragement from the you and from the west and in general, to, to go ahead with what you're doing, do whatever you need to do to resolve this problem. you know, because you're never going to receive the human rights opprobrium from us listing lee is like nothing, you know, who took the really what it was was and, and run with it. and now you know, the consequences of periphery. i don't think this is ever going to end. i'm you talk about the ending in the, in a couple of days time, israel, who will create some sort of security and go so it will move in, in a, in a big way. i know. go back to the 2005 period of taken total military occupational, but that's not the end. that's the beginning. well, you know,

what i mean to may have these, you know, it's moving the grass as they like to cynically say here in that, and that's a big and the phase that i'm looking at. george is, as we speak here, there are reports that has below his injured the fray, if only in a minor way with some missile attacks on, in northern israel. and is this a possibility where this is what her mouth was looking for? i mean, you know, to britain bringing other actors and to chat to just basically make a point here just with martin was saying here is that and you were saying is that this has been pestering and we have all of our all through is gentleman, is it we have a radically right wing government in, in israel. go ahead george. i, i think it's quite possible that that was the plan to get to is paula involved just what happened back in the 2006. um iran obviously which is uh strongly uh, in his bowl as kona they arrive as being very unhappy about this. um,

us sell the uh, plan and particularly the whole idea of saudi arabia recognizing israel. i mean, that would be a huge transformation in the, in the middle east. and particularly as the ron was just taking the staff of normalizing relations with saudi arabia and saudi arabia having just been invited into breaks or this is so i was literally rainy is a really will be very happy with this. so i think it's quite likely that his ball i would uh get involved and um the yeah, i think this would be quite a, a, a big, serious conflict. and again, i mean it's, it's, it's comes down to, you know, you, you just call and go on doing what is there it was doing, it, it was, it's not sustainable. it shouldn't be in this common sense. this is not a sustainable solution. just the idea of what we can go on doing it because we've got the americans in our going up and we can just treat you any way we want, you know, just, you know, essentially just white be off the face of the

a. and that's it. you know, and no, no, no one's going to say blue about it. so, so i think this is a, a, you know, a total failure of a west and foreign policy. i am good. well, it was a very, very serious conflict in martin. it's also the value of era foreign policy. ok, i mean we have all of us look at all 3 of us. our age has ever the arrow bleeders of always talked about the, the palestinian issue. been so many of them done. they have done very much about it, let's be honest. okay. and this is again from us at the risk of alienating the old people in the gaza strip. let's remember, israel's retribution is going to be over whelming, but they're, they're the, the come us leadership is appealing to the era world. i mean, you know, maybe your leader is going to be bought off. ok. but don't forget about us. and i think that's deployed right here. mazda is reminding saudi arabia of its past commitments to the palestinian cons. it was

a failure on many level. it's not just some countries. and even, even from israel's perspective, let me know. i just wrote an article about a week ago talking about the increased. i'm so that is what i was enjoying it in my mind. you can forget about that. no, i mean how to israel so that signtech arms around the world when you got people lining up to say, well, it didn't even protect you because the other thing is, you said, how is it gonna protect us against people got much worse today than nittany, who's calling it their pearl harbor. okay. and we know what the putting state status reaction to pro are ready to go with any, you know, somebody that proposed to a statement yesterday on so on such a day and saying it's now well, well, you know, hello waco, it's, i think the people has been well, for 75 years, you know, and it is just just bigoted mindset and you can't really blame me when you look at wisdom media, you know, and i'm a wisdom need his own my own prime minister didn't even lose a heart based in supporting these running these full, the rights to defend themselves. amazing ups would be amazing. i mean,

what do you find these people have? what if they were there has been this news blackout? you know, i'm a journalist, so i've got a, a big in a, a, some, an extra grinding against this, i suppose. but there's news blackout for something wrong about what's been going on . and by the time, you know, just yesterday, christina, and before and cnn did an interview with the opposed to being a deputy investor in london. and the for 6 or 7 minute interview or just you just refused to acknowledge the occupation. it just was, it was something she wasn't gonna be drawing on, you know, so i think it's a failure on these roads sides. but when you talk about the apps, they definitely, um, i think this is pulse all of it, but it's part of the story of why the palestinians, there's somethings broken. somebody snapped, i'm like what snapped one of the top of that frustration is they've seen how they've been completely abandoned by the western world. but even the arrow pump this now, all lining up the western world, talks about the degrees, but

a starter in the western values and the burrell chronicles of georgia. the hope obviously this speaks to happen here. go ahead fully. exactly. and it's very interesting. i mean, what motto saying about the response in your up and how that has uh, changed just in the past. uh, you know, 3040 years. i mean, they used to be a distinct distinction between the way that your bands approaches of at least and the way the americans, the americans. we are always not on the, you know, whole, obviously, pro is ropes. but the europeans always have a very distinctive approach, which is, hey there, this is a call and say go to the side. so this complex, we need to approach this as there are 2 sides. and it has to be a resolution that satisfies both sides and hopefully in person the to the 2 is you know, the 2 state solution which low preceded was low or mean that was in the bike in my, in the 1970s. i mean, there was a europeans embrace that, i mean, i was, they be the global consensus,

the 2 state solution which the europeans and at that time, the soviet union and much of the reverse. well, what else to do? say it now the europeans are just essentially just pirating everything that the americans are saying and in the good when they've done is what they've done is that, i mean we look at jared questionnaire and you know, the engineer and abraham backwards, the palestinians. tony exist so they don't exist. it's not a problem martin. yeah, just to the point before you couple of last time is that when we look at the boards, you know, just the, every, i'm cold part of it. you know, the, every time cool is all the final insult for the palestinians, you know, who have grown up generations of grown up. excepting that we have the right supportive narrative from a lot of these are countries, particularly in the gulf states, but do they do any singular? what do you do? anything you know? and um, do you ever have a college this, this final acknowledgment, the not only are we not going to do anything, but we're going to line up and do deals with israel, you know, to support ourselves or run,

but to political agendas and sell the palestinians down the road, you know, like they are just kind of redundant livestock or some sort of uh they, this is an admissions wait. how we've gotten to this point here. okay. they refused to be forgotten. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we are to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate regarding the the well, the met across side for all things are considered non beautiful though this is a home addition to remind you. we're discussing some relatives

the let's go back to learning marrakech you were talking about the abraham sports continue. 5 so i think the big question though, and i think this has been raised by itself here a bit, which was just about to sign the ever in the cold is a, do they have anything left? and is there any credibility to it now with the a but i'm a culture. does this latest escalation just below the bottom? cool down the water under countries like where, okay, where i am now, you know, i have to look at this whole relationship with israel from a completely new perspective. so i think in that respects to disaster for is w touch briefly before on as one of the big question now, just briefly is for israel is not whether it contain the, the, uh, uh, an uprising within because of the question, military is kind of sustained and contained that i'm also deal with an attack from

southern lebanon, or from a syria, whereas we will have a, it's huge amounts of minutes installation with very sophisticated rockets. ok, well, have been in that, it just to further your point here. if there is an ongoing conflict, particularly if a has blog in lebanon is drawn into a, there's no arab leader in the world is going to be considering abraham records and, and normalizing relations with, with israel, by no judge. there seems to there's all to our lives and this has been this obsession with the, with the israel and, and, and how to frame and characterize the palestinian um element of batch which has been so totally skewed. it's almost, i'm recognized like before. we couldn't be in here, i was telling you i was watching a number of pod caps the, the lack of knowledge about hope. this comes like this biggest roaring mary george business. i because it goes to the media, have done um, nothing at all to inform the public about the origins of the state of israel. what,

how did this come about? how to get to eat while the bad a scene is when, when did they come from? and so that's why the is the sum and substance of the media coverage is a, what is right is under attack. the terrorists are attacking israel, israel as a right to defend as so we must help the sovereign states defend itself. so yeah, that's it. you know, so the, the, the palestinians are just to be wiped away from this equation. now is very interesting. what about what math and said about this is really intelligence? i mean it's, it's always been the floor of the chime for all of this be perpetrated on the, on the public that israel has, the spine has been just the world. um, you know, we, we remember the young people how that were able to mobilize in a time, history of them young people, what, what a surprise and is what i knew nothing. it's all about the list and, and the game,

you know, there's a buyer and they is very urgent. i is everywhere. you know, they know exactly what's going on that are completely caught by surprise of by this attack. so where is this uh, of, of, onto the don't just one of those is where it doesn't have that a, what israel has is the united states and it's pulling up and it's very good at goading the united states to wage was on his behalf. is that it hasn't been particularly good at waging was, i mean it was on able to defeat the is buying 2006. it doesn't really want anything since like the 1967. well, but, but it's very good at persuading the world that it's either limited and the and that because does it get us to like, you know, the question, ukraine, which is, why is the west of ours been obsessing, obsessing in this way, sending ever the hard way to ukraine, while i didn't even notice this, you know, which supposedly in america's got so much about the middle is right in front of them. and they were just simply give a call, you know, what,

why or what we thought was all about the plan. so there's this area of the world where, you know, which america has traditional interest. i knew nothing, it's all about, but they are absolutely obsessed with what's going on in your price, which is, which is the area of american national interest. yeah. but yeah, it will only until, 15 minutes ago. right, that, well that, that brings up the question that we, we have this situation in the us congress. so i don't want to go through the minutia here. but what's most important here is it questioning an aide to ukraine, is a legitimate question. now that happened to this speaker bite it in the us congress, which is welcome. because the, the ability to debate it publicly is finally caught up with public opinion because public opinion has been going in one direction steadily for the last, the 7 or 8 months now. and so you have the european union and saying, you know, we will continue to do whatever it takes,

but then we're burrell our favorite theories thing, but we can do with the help to you, ms. perkins. i guess everything is this has been generated by washington and backed by london and brussels is catching up with the fact that, well, maybe the me, the commitment from london and washington isn't um, uh, politically viable. i mean, i, the, the, the actors that are involved in this are gung ho we are totally in for it. but i mean, at a certain point, public opinion does matter, particularly in our a, of social media. go ahead one public opinion which obsessed of this concept of occupation in ukraine. the people just lined up, you know, whether it was western intelligence agencies or politicians or media. you know, people just went just rented on relentlessly from day one about this idea of russian occupation. and yet those same people don't see alice time this row. and you know, there's a, there's a strange but lots of logic that, but going back to this a bundle which has been thrown out, you know,

it will probably come back in and i think um, but i'm gonna probably push it if i don't think it'll be 24 been it may be a front. oh oh, you know what the white house is? bushing up. i what a one time. 100000000000. that's what they're pushing right now. like the yes they're, they're, they're, they're going for the big, big the jackpot here because they want to take it out of the election cycle. keep going. oh, okay. but then, you know, and that, but just trying to kind of brings us neatly to, you know, to government chief burrell in the you say, you know what, we need the americans we were coming from. but basically pretty uses, we're not america, you know, we've got this great deal with them. they pay for everything going to, but i think, oh, this is starting to fall apart because even if it's one shot a 100000000000, that's nowhere near enough to to really take it by fall. and the 1st 100000000 didn't go far. you go so, you know, but, but i think the voices of dissent in america are all starting to bring that fist on the table and talk about some kind of accountability to this money because thing

for you don't know what a thing. now, what is the actual, how do you do that? how do you, how do you take the taxpayers money from america and send it to the most corrupt country in the world and just sit by mistake my, we don't need or thing all the things, but we're paying the all, so, you know, take time and who knows what we might find. you know, now it's just, i general, is this whole history of impunity. george, you mean it is real? it gets $3000000000.00 and could $78.00 every single year in the united states. so that's a, that's the well, i think it's with egypt as of it's, it's like, i mean, as the age wherever they get each one, i think that's the same. i think i give the same amount to each. but that's a very interesting issue because of cause, and this was raised by steve band environment of significant figured because he's very close to trump. and he said, well, look at this, or, i mean he's a cause a strong support a result. well, where does this money go? i mean we've, we've been giving them all this a for years and years and years,

and they just called flatfooted there. and where is that? what happened to them? intelligence, what happens, or they're incredibly powerful on pauses. and where did this money go? and then, you know, the band them being bannon, the raise the question, you know, baby lives in the off it was the 1st leader in the world who recognized biden's election victory in 2020, and also, or trumpet. don't say him with, you know, the abraham a goal is, you know, moving the embassy to jerusalem, recognizing the annexation of the going high, stopping the day to the power stands and offer all that lives in the will recognize the biden. immediately, you know, that's something that's what that's playing in the mind in a truck, you know, again is goes pro is random. so that's, that's also the case by golfing. so that's a problem for a if it's where it is rarely, you know, been, you've got people who were, you can count on as being your sub and advocates. i going to stop asking whether there's money, you know, i mean, what have you been doing all this time?

you know, you people, you know, you're not able to deal with this direct side. bunch of uh, you know, you know, brigands, um, so yeah, but that means that even there's a lot of citizens, cynicism in the, in this politics here in the middle east. martin let me know this is a bill for him. okay. investigations until probably drops. we'll probably get this particular sufficient re warm through a and they'll give you going to be able to kill a whole lot of palestinians. i mean, that's exactly what and yes, it was all about it. you could look at it that way. you could say, yeah, this is exactly what it has been dreaming of, you know, and i think he will usher in a much, much more stringent to tell her to be, you know, f o, any remaining traits as opposed to liberties. of course can be what job because you can justify. that was one that weren't a while now. so you know, we're going to just, are there any just out there who are going to critical of making a will get rid of those? you know, we thought how many dissenting voices no, no opposing now to know where it was or now old personal liberties will be crunched

down, bought george made the interesting point. you said, well, if, if, if anyone you comp trust and us and yahoo even when, when he did so much for trump, you know, and i think perhaps the people of this, what would be asking the same question, can we trust in this new i have now because you know, this great lead to you are the one who oversees the intelligence community. you know, you didn't see this coming into journalism generalist inmate. so i was just told a whole us a little bit and wait for a few days and a few weeks for some leaks to come out of the intelligence community. when people, columbia, a conspiracy theorist will say, perhaps nothing, you know, who did know it was coming. well, i didn't say you did, but i always, lia knew there, hey, i'm in the spring. but george, what do you think about that? well, that's a possibility. we'll have to see um, how let any yahoo, a response have a if he does indeed sees us as an opportunity. great. now we can just simply are we the people, you know, all the, you know on this, this is it, this is the excuse. we've been looking for, you know, then we'll say,

and he knew about this. um, i mean at least it, it would give him a sort of try to do it as a little better than the alternative, but he's just so, so totally incompetent. he didn't know what was going on in the dark. yeah. let's remember people, netanyahu's and gods, pearl harbor united states and destroy hiroshima and nagasaki was based on what we were attacked and process. well, that's right, and i think look, i mean mostly would accept if the on knew that this attack was coming. i mean, and basically he was waiting for it as a way to getting into world war 2. so it could well be that the nothing. yeah. who just sat on these hands, but wrote disability, which is also the alternative, which is where they are incompetent. you know, a problem. they were incompetent back in 73. they were called flatfooted. you know, that was settled breathing on young people and you know, not realizing this the, certainly a time and again the, the incompetence of the americans over the americans though it had been, they know the, something like this was coming when they found that they left the 11 on with their

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