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[000:00:00;00] the, the hello, i'm the miller chan. you're tuned into modus operandi. there's been great fanfare made over the green movement out here in the west, especially in the way of trash and recycling. but are the numbers reported by the us and european union? really as good as they found today, we'll be talking trash, literally, as western states scramble to fulfill their green ambitions will impact all the garbage and find out what's really going on with all that rubbish. talk coming from the politicians. all right,

let's get into the m o the by now most of you watching this are familiar with the push to recycle. there are special been colors with special logos printed on them all over the western world. public officials talk about net 0 or carbon neutral recycle. reduce reuse. because western landfills are packed to the gills, especially when it comes to plastics. but what they're not telling you is that less than 10 percent of plastics that you drop into that blue vin are actually recyclable. and it's not likely staying within your home country. it's been shipped off to a developing nation and for them to sort out recycle as possible and the rest. well, that's also for that country to figure out. meanwhile, western politicians can publicly boast about how good their policies are working.

yet in the west, germany, france, wherever around, hey, they're delivering on promises that they made to their constituents. right? ok. so here it's a breakdown. the reality of this garbage is my guess, worries angle rawling, i'm my guess is a researcher at friends of the earth, malaysia, you can learn more about their work at s o, e dash malaysia dot org my guess. thank you so much for joining us. first, talk to us a little bit about the work that you and your group are doing in malaysia and why there is such a urgency to address the so called waste trade. okay, um i'm a senior research officer, the fence of the nation and also the consumers association, opening the members of the global alliance for insight to auction. it's in short republic, gaia and also basically from plastic. so in 2017 i will organization to die us project. i just thought the research on the effects of the street. we were tracking

the most one of the plastic with a globally. so during that time, there was news about continuous of these left in the fonts in melisha. and also a fun learning china's notification to the website organization that happened in 2017 and china had informed about the intention to enforce a band on the $24.00 types of base including plastic missing parts. so we anticipate the cascading problems to melisha, and we had already questions from nation goldman. at that time he tells you that melisha may become the next destination for the space. we did get a response from the department that was in charge. seeing that it had formulated specific rules to control prospect wasting faults, and they would also impose that stringent requirements on premises and also import licenses. however,

what we find was the control measures and enforcement of approval, not adequate them based on risk dumping. and how much you mean of indigo reciting, took place in many parts of melisha, especially near the c parts. rather beast was coming to, you know, so this happened in 2018, not only in the nation, but also at the southeast asian countries, such as indonesia and payment communities and civil side to organizations in those countries. types pop up highlighting the at risk impacts of the missing something out on the health and also on the enlightenment. him um, in some of this ways that could not be recycled with just dumped in the more it is in the summer. but some of this will intentionally button tend to just um, you know, because of so much of these they wanted to accommodate up and be blended. so besides the air pollution blending our sweet and now what the bodies were also produced it. so this was a really urgent issue to be addressed as we don't want our country to bend the

brand of the street. i would say, lane was the not a dumping. don't know. it seems that offshoring waste is a really big industry, much as the rubbish is. coming from western nations and being sent off to still developing nations, many in the asia pacific rim. what sort of impact does this have on the local population? like health consequences, perhaps other issues that most people in the west are not aware of. and i must say the global production and trade, the plastic reese had growing tremendously. you would there be subject, it's rustic? macy's mostly treated under the banner of plastic disliking. but what we're seeing is a beach and develop countries to actually have the capacity to manage its own wrist . shifting get us wants to be to developing and mostly under the false countries is village and injustice. you may call this beast clinic and so what happens is the

recipient countries, as i mentioned much of the plastic is a single use and also need to know the cycling value already low respecting value. however, it is still does things for recycling operations, although not all of those products can be dislike of what we saw in ready be coming into our shows. we're mix plastics and contamination these. yeah, and this risk cannot be to psycho this. i quote, the singled beast this vessel, these are the ones that were being dumped openly in the what it is and then intentionally but a daily basis. but the toxic fumes costs, respiratory problems and other elements to the neighboring communities. some suffered from breathing difficulties. s must skin problems and this may also lead to chronic illness. as you know, in the long run, for instance, uh in sort of by a, indonesia, it was reported that communities were using plastic nice, uh,

which had coming in for the before we seem to feel the stuffs for making the full. uh, we just have been that the doubts as well as a phone in its from chickens with the neighborhood. what we are saying is the costs and burden to public health and the environment. it's why waste that avenue that puts a me gain from reflecting and restrict uh, another issue that i would like to share is, uh, that is also what we call cheating plastics. this come in the form of plastics, in influx of paper bills. as i mentioned, what has happened instead of by a is also plastics and electronic and electrical products. there's also affects always, most of all the text bodies, actually a lot of fun things costing us is i think materials around the in fi amazed. and then that is also diffuse a july fuel this mix the base which contains about 30 to 50 percent of plastic this . uh,

another matter is we also need to consider the impacts of micro plastics. you know, this can be formed during the recycling process and it also, and so you know, what, what the bodies and produce our, what the bodies, what we did was when we were going, uh, you know, what allow is. yeah. um the admissions, but we street coordination events on our own. so it is that has become dumping drones increase in malaysia and um, some of this with not being kit and some of it has the plastic reset. this integrate that and we found a lot of uh, micro plastics because this uh, micro plastics from like to see these. so these are some of the issues that we have to one family. yeah. yeah. micro plastics are a very toxic and pervasive problem it's. it's also known to cause reduction of spawn accounts in human males, even animals, and, and longer term health problems. so in 2021, there was an ecological crisis that most people didn't hear about, because it happened in the throes of the cold. it pandemic,

a container ship crashed along the coast of sri lanka, spilling nearly 2000 tons of plastic pellets and nearly 10000 tons of toxic chemicals into the ocean water. now, i know this isn't directly a result of the rubbish transfer, but i thought it worth mentioning, especially since plastic pallets are, wouldn't get melted down to make other plastic goods like water bottles and so forth. and people eventually discard into the waste trade. can you tell us what happened with that spill? okay, um that speed happened in may 2021 of the congo sheep. the name is the express blue . it caught fire outside of the last 3 lanka. so after the 1st wave of air pollution due to the fire, the 2nd know me for solutions in the beach. us. uh this once a set of last couple including billions of uh plastic pallets which um microsoft pc check mentioned just now. uh and this i used to produce plastics. so this incident

has been described as the most in the 3 months of history. okay. uh, what was on board of the ship. them a $1486.00 shipping containers. of those, if you want to request the site s dangerous goods because they contain nitric acid in hosp folder. um this uh, that would be for the to contain a mixture of, uh, so little funds. so, um, box it up to the same plastics owing and metals such as net income. so following the fire, the contents of the continuous prompted to dig into the enlightenment. um, at that time uh, dislike to fishing before we get to in launch, it is along the course of uh, 3 months of hundreds of big petals of a phone for being a show and friends and friends of base feeling a spoken feeling to be just so according to the you and environmental administer advise the admission in the sheep k,

housing $680.00 funds of plastic pellets. so they did a calculation of approximately 0.02 names for permit. and that includes with off me, if you really instead, let's just imagine that if i'm being, although they don't know exactly how much of the sentence the out, the sheer amount indicates that this is the largest feeling on the quote. yeah. and the initial modeling suggested that the incentive not when you get to the 4th line . so it's really what if i'm able to reach indonesia, melisha and the rest who even to somebody a so although this message soon enough, it is not possible to remove all defendants from the enlightenment. and these are expected to have probably teaching fonts, defenses. and right me see that the prospect pollution it's not understanding it, see what i'm doing and then transport. it is also becoming more common um in the nature of chemicals and i just,

it's in the plastic means that. busy spills will have a wide range of negative effects on the enlightenment. and finally, subsequent people if you wouldn't have so. so to learn more about this particular incident and to check on the publication by the international pollutants and the munition network, i pin and the center for environmental justice, 3 lanka. and coming up next, missing the mark. the majority of european union states will miss their plastic recycling goals, find out what they're doing about it. next, we'll discuss it when we return with mega, sorry, sign. a rolling on to type the m o will be right back. the a,

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a major election year here in the us, but also for many in the you. many parliamentary seats are up for grabs. so politicians are scrambling to meet their promises made, or at least appear to be making inroads, especially when it comes to going green. it's not us. why were you sound a rolling? i'm is from friends of the earth, malaysia. she is back with us to discuss it. thank you for staying with us, my guess. so over in the you, a new report issued by the european commission. the summer indicates that 19 out of $27.00 egos states are at risk of missing their plastics. recycling targets, their collective goal was to recycle 50 percent of their plastic waste and it doesn't appear that they'll get there by 2025. the you was under pressure ahead of elections next year. it's been documented that since the you set such a vicious climate and environmental goals for themselves,

that they are unable to meet, that the new states surreptitiously present. how well they're doing by simply offshoring. the ways to turkey, turkey is in fact become europe's landfill, taking in some 40 percent of a you trash, according to bloomberg. what are your thoughts on that? especially on how the politicians are misrepresenting how good they are on environmental issues. yes, um, uh, not really in the new houses in the u, as japan, most of the developed countries, they have a vigilant, ju, separating the rece to be recycled. as many were not aware that the base was being transported overseas. and mostly to developing countries supports that need to be recycled. yeah, um, as you had mentioned in the annual has been going on with b and, and why them and to me by shipping the prospect, reese, 2 countries such as 30 which is the easy,

the country and not to militia him. and that they would not taking into consideration the ends of this working conditions and also the toxic week which to nearby communities. we find that this is extremely and just uh, the english and other countries, countries, too bad the responsibility of the race. you know, in the name of treat, especially sending out ways to make an economist that has less ability to manage important ms in addition to having a on plastic miss. mm hm. um, so effective risk management of dispute is shouldn't be based on the principles of proximity. you should take responsibility of your own based. so what we have been competing is for you to take the best possible deal of the risk that the agenda, the thing. what happens in the october 2022. as i mentioned, we are also members of the big p from plastic hoffman. um this move on and rethink

plastic alliance. strongly. it will get it for the you to end the export of plastic this outside the european union. yes. what is to be countries such as the key and also law issue, the countries for example, melisha, melisha, spot, mistreat coalition and other and use sense like this to the members in the you know, can finally been a and find the lead, the open parliament and vitamin committee uh what the in favor of a ben on. uh you, plastic music sports and also uh, strongest safeguarding meshes for intra e, rustic mistreatment. yeah. so you, it says um they will also she, um, they are transporting the bass to a little uh, from a country seem to be a either to be present as all a sudden uh put his entering to reach us. um and uh they had a what that showed that you acknowledged how plastic with exports the loopholes and um you know, when they can dispute exporting. so it goes up once you get

a high level of plastic being produced and you know, and also being consumed. and now as well after the what uh, in january 2053, the in parliament adopted uh its negotiating on the position for approximately are the governments on the new law to the wise uh you for us. it is. and also control measures for risk treatments. so we hope that all the um, you know, countries in a nation, so you was sick and consideration of the, you know, the injustice that is happening in the developing countries and, and in the end of this 20 conditions should and you know, pick clint consideration of all these issues and take this once we do off the, on these. so when, who was talking to, uh, what do you say about how do we process this? what is, what do we do or what do, how do we treat it? then i know they with me pick up stream meshes by stuffing. oh me thing. the

production of plastics for decades. china was actually taking in nearly half of the world's plastic waste. suddenly in 2018, the chinese brought an abrupt end to this practice. much of that waste was coming from the u roughly 55000000 tons of plastics cardboard paper and so forth. it all had know where to go. the chinese cited that the mountains of trash were to what they called impure for them to continue to recycle and said that now their rules for recycling were more stringent than that of the you. now they are only accepting certain paper trash with a total ban on plastics. what do you make of this move by china? yeah, via what china was taking this stringent action. china was supposed to burn or betty that has to do a race there from other countries that within the cycle. so this and that to mess

this and why them into pollution and public health impacts in the horse company just processing just important plastic missed. so china responded to calls for 3, now it's x by bending. the implication of crossing this, any focus on the collection and reflecting of plastic this, which were generated from mystically. yeah. but however of the china and falls, it's been nice spot that seeing how illegal treat in plastic nice head search. though this was seen spring to 18 and premium criminal groups. i've also sought to exploit the message market disruption prompted by china. decisions have been rustic missing what's 2 countries in the southeast asia, south asia and eastern europe. they bought the bundle of this uh, moving criminal activity as a prospect miss. cheap ones from europe and north america would die with it. our country's m. this is also, if you want to buy into products and how does this even go trade happens?

it happens to force declaration of the point, simon, this a, this is not caustic, this. so it is um, you know, if those customers would not be inspecting this uh, reese to and another thing we also saw indigo reflecting point. once popping up melisha most me uh, investors from china were doing it. they will open anything without for me it's, they also used the rule and technology and, and want them to be home for methods of disposal of and you know, it's when the beat was dis, dunphy, albany, him. and now we're also includes the nice thing in rest, this from china opening up a paper and prospect disliking plants. melisha, you know, most of these plans have on site in, so they just the one that has to do a res. so, so now we have to buy the brand again from the evolution ashan disposal and i would, he was being polluted. so when one countries fucking fucking then the other countries of reading the front of this uh, history. when we look at the,

the business of exporting rubbish, looking at which countries create the waste and later where that trash goes, there is no denying that the global south is bearing the brunt of what some have characterized as environmental imperialism. you have said waste imperialism, or even colonialism, obviously, trash climate change, the environment. all of this is a joint and global effort, but are, are the wealthier nations simply just subjecting the poor nations to the director or in need it impacts of mounting trash? meaning the wealthy nations get to live on the convenience of using stuff like single use plastics on the backs of the poor. yeah, my short answer is yes. happening um. but then usually once the issue in which any of the industrial in various forms it's in our packaging,

it's in our codes. it's on the electrical production electronic components. it's a lot of it is in the consumer from bats. and even in our cars, so of transportation and construction. so what we need to look at it is like in this case we need to look at plastic. it's in its entirety, him to address plastic pollution across its entire life cycle. developed countries, they tend to recycle high quality prostate doing it in that one countries. and then they want to know what plastics are developing countries. and this is what the thing i, what countries with and write them into pollution. it will sort of this, the house of how the communities and forces occupational his it's work us advising from the processing of this materials. if you were mentioning it as and monumental imperialism. what we are calling is miss colonialism him. so we need to and this risk clinton is i'm a and let them into intervene. isn't me not

a dumping ground m to however, if you're just ben rustic, this trait or exports you don't reducing plastic reduction, it was likely trigger more dumping the and costs toxic pollution. and also this will contribute to the climate crises. so what is needed is a global plastics. tricky to address this issues. so what's inside the organization? and some of the governments have been campaigning for this. both plastics, treaty and last year the united nations and vitamin assembly unanimously adopted a resolution and prospect pollution. so the mandate calls for addressing plastic pollution in all n y them is to a comprehensive approach on addressing the for the plastics life cycle. uh so this will also mean in terms of the extraction of costing tools to make this plastics and it's chemicals. yeah. so we knew that the prices of plastic pollution should be

a chief from upstream by reducing the overall amount of plastic production, we need to face out and bend. unnecessary single use plastics and also and recyclable plastic. we also have to address the subjects and caustics m and subsequently the foxes reciting. so, um, what we have been calling for is like look at prospects, a just and tired life cycle. and um, you know, banning a prospect main street is one of the options, but you need to also have upstream meshes to stop production of more plastics. i guess we're a single rolling on thank you so much for your time and expertise. my guess is a researcher at friends of the earth, malaysia, and you can learn more about their work at f o, e dash malaysia dot org. and so as you can see, the green movement isn't exactly what it purports to be. and that's not to say that all efforts are in vain, but we all share this one planet. you can't just shut off your waste to another

place and say, i'm doing so good for the environment. that's just lipstick on a pig. so we hope this episode delivered some transparency there. that's gonna do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep in the foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host window a chance. thank you so much for tune again. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m o

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