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the hi max strand retention. welcome back to going under ground broke up single, around the world from the u. a. there's only one story. the world is focused on. it threatens not only 2300000 people in the besieged gaza strip, off of whom a children with global energy stability and the both of any new world order being born through brick so well that might consign decades of nature nation violence to history. let's go straight to a member of the palestinian legislative council. documents of about goods. he's general secretary and co founder of the palestinian national initiative and joins me from ramallah in the west bank. i don't know whether it is a besieged westbank, the doctor about goosey obviously our hearts go out to the palestinians. this as well as these rarely civilians in this terrible uh week. but let's just begin with
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why you think joe biden use the white house to spread unsubstantiated claims, even the adf distance itself from the claim. and it said it was had to be corrected by the los angeles times it. and it was in every newspaper in britain, on the front page. is that how my said, the headed 40 babies a, it's a big lie and they keep repeating lies. but that's not on the out of style and money through lifting the media and money through lifting their stories. and in my opinion, what we see here is uh, systematic world land sort of campaign to demonize, not only how mass, but to humanize on the police thing and people. and this is a very dangerous, not that i do think about, what do you go through now? as police didn't, people is the worst time um, the most dangerous time since 1940 kids. when is there and conducted ethnic cleansing, i guess they're going to put some stuff on this thing and people. and the goal is
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not only to do human eyes, but the thing is what, what is me is the 3 things that are being done to us. now complete the siege on guys are depriving people including children from water, from metal, from the fluids that are medications or medicines. and then the strikes that are not to disagree. minutes under that doctor to people killing children, women's men. more than 400 children, hundreds of children slowed up by these strikes. and in addition to that, i plan to estimate click lens, ballast to me on some guys as to these are about 3 that actions of what's happening today. and to, to justify all of that, that is, there is, i'm damage because unfortunately i have to get them engaging in the process of deal monetization of students. i want to explore that in more detail. as of the blinking
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jo biden's, the secretary of state, the former west exec uh, pen to can uh contract, a consultant. he said when he arrived in tel aviv, what separates israel, the usa and other democracies when it comes to difficult situations like this is our israel and the usa is respect for international law and the laws of war. how do you think he was able to say that given footage, even on us a media showing them vast number of civilian casualties and depths. i didn't, i just states has a very clear coat. i'm not one of the united states about money, wisdom, government, and the last 70 years is that it's a disrespect of international law when it comes to ballasting. initial not telling me that my posts are using the standard. one of the most obvious examples of the start of the or is what the, what they do in ukraine,
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sending more than $224000000000.00 of money equipment, military tax plans, something that means whatever. i'm claiming and saying that this is because you claim is fighting go to patient. and i lot of case the i've sending all this, these aircrafts and very heavy and bombs says wonderful which that makes them destroy the whole neighborhood. 1111 in bunk. and they and, and they said that the doing that supporting local buying in ones goes, declaimed out of fighting submission on to another case. they are supporting the q bias to is that our lives will have been able to buying us in the west bank and gaza stood by these jews and ever since 56 years. this is the longest occupation in modern history. and not only that to have ethnically cleansed palestinians in the
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1948. so there isn't a clear example of this this with respect to for international law. and this double standard, that unfortunately is used for something in the district and international law. this would have responded to a good, tighter sent the secretaries in on a very nice of nations. who said that the decision guys a step in this one a and depriving people from wood to electricity for a new medicine is nothing but a violation of international and the human rights which declared very clearly in response to what does, what are the defense minister said when they said that the but this to me is out of human animals. they said that the, what he said was disgusting, but most of that was baby and good old or water crimes. to be committed, i guess. but this thing and people, yes, hear you. i have go on when we're going to meet with entity blinked, and when he was in israel. but you know, antonio guitar is also condemned to,
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i'm us for, for what it did as well. and when you talk about the occupation, we've seen time and time again global. so countries defeat the united states on goods for vietnam. perhaps. what, what do you believe is the strategy of the i'm us government in the gaza? i mean, there are a state now technically because it's rarely declared war gone, declared war on the terrorist and outfits as it was something i circled mainstream media and agent agency was you miss. but other than that, what is the strategy? is it just to all sacrifice the lives of everyone in gaza because things are and have been so bad since the siege beginning to end 07. i can speak on behalf of her mouth, but i can tell you the following festival day in the is it our lives of declaring
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war on people or q by to people because there is no state and guys, guys as a no q by 33. exactly. like the west bank on the plaza and the different kinds of occupational decision by see, willing to buy and buy land. and. ready declaring good on people's dot to, to buy is something that's never happened and i think so, you know, the nice thing is i know that of my relation, that is there and is do a. but even if it's the award, then in addition to accept the fact that the present most of the time us to and there isn't a business our prison isn't for initial 3, it's about a student present notice in the jams as prisoners and for but they don't do that, surely palestinian resistance groups and there are many, it's not just how much that were involved in this recent taken in violence. they
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must have some strategy truly or did they? yeah, i believe or i believe 2 things happened. that is because it's becoming more clear . now. festival, why do time us start this in, this is this attack. and before the, what time i was did, and not only because we got on the q patient on the system most are past i, that is much worse than the prototype system to prevent the south africa. and when i say outside, not only my opinion and it says the open, you know, if i'm interested in the national geo my towards as well as even the, is it any human rights organization which is why do dispatched to be selling these out of that also so for the conflict and eh, how much was not 250 years ago or 45 years ago or 40 years ago? at that time, the, uh, it was a piano that was described. i stood as actually, i mean by the that because this book patient is called catalyst. i understand. but what, what is the military. busy author of oregon, i think what sort of,
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what's going to see that this attack is the following. during the last day as mazda? is there any autumn? yeah, and there's an early sense, less than $240.00 other students in the west back including for the contributor and continued the title of settlers. the said gladstone, under the supervision and supported the army, went as far as bedding, downs, building houses, bitten in cars like has happened in a lot of the messiah we had to buy in the we, the citizens whose houses were bandwidth, american citizens, palestinian american citizens. i don't think because the by the end is paying attention to them anyhow. in addition to that, do with a constant that tax on docs almost on muslim holy sites as well as christian or the sites are listing. as christians was split up by as an early settlers we've seen, but a vocation of the location taking place. apparently what you're saying is,
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is really important context. but then are you saying these resistance groups fell into a trap? nothing. yahoo was provoking them. and sure enough, they fell into his trap because we suddenly hear from seymour hersh, the great investigative john missed that of that. and yeah, who knew something like this was going to happen and let it happen according to his intelligence. so since it is quite as possible and what is really shopping, cuz that i started that, that happened. the guys are both of those. there was noise in early army and the bridge. and for the more than 6 hours, you know, this is an inch which usually does not even allow a flying to fly into isn't or, and without immediate reaction. what happened there? why did this stay silent? why did they, they did nothing. in my opinion, i don't want to go into conspiracy and see what it is now. but i can tell you that nathaniel, who did something 3 weeks ago, i think almost 3 weeks ago,
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when he stopped in the united nations in front of the hood, was in the assembly of that structure. that should be the guardian of international, the united nations. and the flag of the new me, the least when he got out of the country is that he will, he will normalize with in green and didn't have tab. is it or linda center and blue color and uh, showing the 0. and it was um, is it a that is mixing all of the 2 by it was bang next in the golan heights and unexplained guys are stripped. a lot of times it was no fighting guys or at that time is that it was still claiming that the guys uh, is not able to buy it. and that is there and has left you guys a showing i'm the next is north west bank and gaza in my opinion, is very indicative of the plan of the end of what you wanted to do. and it's the same time the most belonged to violation of international. ironically none of the
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list and governments including the united states, going to decide that to man except one government at the time, which is your money. everybody has stayed silent and in my opinion, he is not using what's happening to implement that lab plan that's, that's mapped. and the most dangerous thing is that they are trying to best buy this thing is out of guys are into i'm asked of ethnic cleansing duty themes. what happened to 1948 is it is yours that with young people out as it goes, or is it your understanding that the circle of mainstream media in west and native nations talking about isis repeating the talking points. the circle has to borrow from the that the government, they're comparing them us to ices. is your understanding that in the as himself treated isis patients in the golan heights? ok, bye golden hides during the war on syria. yes. what is that americans also are dealing
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with isis before they turn against them? of course we have that as well known and he nothing, you know, am centralized, providing the very possible supports to, to, to these people because they were fighting the city and government documents of about good. yeah. i'll stop you that more from the general secretary and co founder of the palestinian national initiative and member of the palestinian legislative council. locked in his break. the . there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i've tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for. so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to living
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on that. we have said it was put together, you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath. any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better. the answer is will be the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still
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here with the member of the palestinian legislative council. doctor must have a biography. sorry to have interrupted you. the just discontinue you were talking about the oslo accords, which i have to say pretty discredited amongst uh, many palestinians around the world today. but uh, overall was furnace because because the money mistakes and then but the most important to show here in about nathaniel, is that to you don't the whole book in 1994 going to a place under the sun in which he had started also attacked any possibility of peace was published against i'm denied 1st against that i had to have a state. and then he was elected as prime minister was an army of 1996 and killed the peace process. he did everything, i mean the impact options of course within shuttle and was empower and on much sort of like. but this man as being the prime minister mainly visited in all these 16 years. and he did every thing to kill unable to validate with these for the evaluation because his doctor name is no to understand me and states is the next
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thing. ok, bye 30 please. and now what he said is that all ballasting is in guys, i must evict their homes where to go to the sea, as military is focus just on, on that point. and i think many would say it's not just net yahoo, it's a, as you know, well, structures within these riley society rather than some color health pollution for individuals that we had talking about. why do you, would it help if egypt opened the crossing? i know it was bombed soon off to what you just said when yeah, we said leave guys a as if there was a way to leave because what, what do you see is your role of interest as to as well. he is a conspiracy between nothing, you know, and unfortunately this american administration, which is behaving in my opinion and your daughter, do you have a responsible amount because nothing, you know, said people. so they figured their homes that military support,
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special also not then, you know, came out and said, i'm assuming is it goes, why should they make their homes and go to egypt? this became the headline of you. they're all settled, few days ago. and then instead of can be the spokesperson of the american defense ministry. spend there should be a human stadium, couldn't do it with egypt, but only in one direction to egypt. oh, what do we see here? it's a tool gonna spit i seem to keep bombarding. people in gaza keep bombarding them. i'm kilograms data on event on the back. you with guys us through to egypt. creating one of the worst ethnic cleansing in the 21st. okay. given, given to 1000000 people, given this conspiracy that you allege, given that your record over decades of fighting for the un security council resolutions that guarantee a peace and justice for the amount of city and people and we've seen and didn't
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even get into bite and administration administer what maybe half a 1000000 dead in ukraine is. they pulled weapons into the last ukranian in the fight against russia. is only an attack on the demona nuclear weapon system in israel. the possibility that open some kind of attempted saving the population of gods and because you're only using to be intimating they will wipe out 2300000 people with the european union, british and american weapons. i don't know, but this is very serious. so what's happening is very serious. if people and guys, uh, evicted to egypt, they would never be allowed to come back. and the egypt isn't even letting them in . yeah. is it plugged into the loan and that isn't. that's not going to happen. it shouldn't. yeah, of course it shouldn't because and what we need is a humanitarian go to door to so that would, and,
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and fuel and electricity and water medicine would come to guys or, you know, i am, i'm in the experiment. i know you'll be, you're not even expecting that to happen because you've just outlined the fact that nothing yahoo has grand plans as does structures and is rarely society. why do you still put this hope that they're going to suddenly, after getting all these children going to suddenly go that's have a humanitarian garzo. i still believes the insidious thing such as the one i still believe and to whom i mean, do i still believe that on good people in every country and i am been doing my hopes on the fact that when they see all these a lot of other images, especially students can of children and by this time, slow types of devices that ada strikes, that something were to move. i also built my home and decided that is the movement anywhere in the world i'm doing. i want to add up. i'm a student there. i split up people to stand up to this order, but i tackled by the stimulus. yes. to model the i mean, and in the,
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in the coming days we see what will happen in europe. the, you know, that the governments are now prohibiting any sort of directed demonstrations. would police to me and people not funded. that'd be the most that asians with how mass but living palestinian people, which means we see here a very clear case of the human eyes ition of not only for the experience but anybody in support of those of us to me and, and i to be free of us to have people that i not to be of them by that and killed by his earlier style just found this as a medium to him proposal. and of course you're right, there have been solved diversity administrations in engine easier in chile, in the south korea all across the world at this time. maybe that's what makes it as different. but that hasn't stopped the prime minister of britain putting the is really flag in solidarity with nothing yahoo! and the as rarely, people on the, on downing street and the european union and so forth in britain binding the palestinian flag,
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it appears somebody saying is the design. i understand that there is the diaspora and the greater awareness of what the palestinians are going through. but that's not going to stop this immediate situation this week. is it or it want it's might not, but i think i hope things. we started changing. we were very encouraged by statements that are coming from different countries, not like you to be on countries, not like united states companies like russia, fronted like china to the countries like to proceed. and companies like south africa, i think, you know, there's a, we can in the world is not, is it early order me to come on? and on this note, i would like to say something about what the american president said. i wish you would love disagreement and see that she does not discriminate between american palestinians on americanize that or is he spoke about american is there is can he
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didn't mention any word about the police to me and i made it kind of most peaceful again and i'm just kidding i bosler, who was assassinated by amazon or this night, but i'm plus neighbors and nobody was ever indicted for the clean care. and you didn't say i, what about the 500 american palestinians who are now in guys us through, under bombardment, under strikes and their high life is a tightest and i am sure many of them will die. so i'm not, you know, until not quite sure why you surprised by that from the american administration knowing what they have a said the in public as to their attitude, to palestinians in general. um, just one quick question about the children, because obviously nature nation propaganda media. they're talking about the hostages, the children and g. o save the children, documented is really messed attention of children. what's your experience over the years of the detention of palestinian children by the u. u k. us back to is really government successive ones. i understand 20 years in prison for
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palestinian children for throwing stones as being the sentence that's through on that on size 1000, throw blue 500 prisoners now. and is there any is including dollars done $200.00 children. and many of these children like are the other 1260, by the studios on the mistook of detention. which means they don't know why they are in june, which means they are practically kidnapped. which means that their lawyer was don't know why they are in jail and they kind of defend this. it doesn't go into administrative detention. that is, there is using, i guess, by the student people. and by the way, that's was one of the reasons why, how most conducted the attack, because they've, for the motiv antennae is they've been trying to negotiate uh, presidents exchange store that understand them. but it's not necessarily during the
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summer for my been there for 4040 years. i wouldn't be released. i'm does that. i know don't listen. i'm out of the immediate proposal. i know that they were going to go in this direction then something happens. but the media to those that as a media sees fire to stop these optimistic is that happening to now in goza, to save the lives of both palestinians and israelis, and didn't initiate a prison. i was exchanged with all the prisoners in goes, i could come home safely, and then the policy and engineers, and those would be the least. okay. when is the how many be an issue? we have to see how many survive on that. i'm going to also us, i know the gods are authorities, claim that many of those going to that music festival according crossfire with the idea of when it happened. but is it normal that there are music festivals and dancing bodies is just next to the besieged, guys? a strip with 2300000 people are in closes. that'd been happening recently. the
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people young people would go and have music festivals. just me is where all these of defendants of those ethnic print plans. i believe that the, the defendants live i don't know if this was, i know i'm, that's, i know that is there and has made all these uh, supplements out on zillow and it does uh, as uh, to district sites, every foot administered or over the phone and do the who comes is usually invited to visit these areas to show that there is an end as a victim of the studio and okay, and uh, so this was the habit. so i don't know about what happened in that system and i didn't see people killed that. maybe you did when people into problem areas. where is there? uh, pictures of course of yeah. you, you were information. minnesota jones out of most people living near the area. i don't think we have set up that the area on the system or not. i don't want to to,
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to, to justify anything. but i want to tell you something. i am a person who have own was advocated non violence or my life. i don't agree with the killing disability and all that is there anyone punished again? but what we see today is something that should not be acceptable at any level, which is the human i zation for other students. inviting is or to commit crimes. i've started crimes, i've started crimes against civilian political people and justifying the killing of hundreds of police didn't. and nobody should do that. it's unacceptable. and it should not be allowed just finally and very briefly. and it seems strange to be talking about multi $1000000000.00 weapon re arriving in the eastern mediterranean, off the coast of gauze of the united states, proclaiming at the largest aircraft carrier in the world with all its military. that who do you think that's aimed at? i know the shares of all the big good nature nation arms companies have risen,
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has the death toll mounts in gaza? who is that intended for? and do you now reflect on the fact the palestinian authority should never have collaborated with israel as it has done in recent years or the festival? i think that the, the, they're going those, these, the aircrafts and carriers is very clear and designated they've done that many times they've been hired to do so same on the time. they want to frighten his bella on live on, on so that they went into the fields and would not supposed to stadiums and guys are. and i think this is the main goal and this is the main name. i'm down the bite instead of lincoln so that, that, that they want to, i mean, i'm not about to do different implement food ink and what's happening here. but i do not think that all the parties can stay silent if they see an act of ethnic
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cleansing happening, or seeing more and more productivity and still these, but it can, it strikes so and see what happens about the policy. now the thought of it is so weak and it has to be marginalized and humiliated by is or is constantly and repeatedly. and then even the areas that should be under as opposed to, you know, sort of the way the invented constantly by is 0. and of course, but as the nose out, i guess the security collaboration with guys and decide especially now with the all these are closer because for me to the spanish speaking and people. but i think the problem with the student knows how to do that, that has failed to unify palestinians. eh, i think, and this very moment it is the duty from us that our best and, or other students, either immediately 2 and a 5 listing as a stand in front of this terrible catastrophe that would take place of another mackenzie. and i know that around those crimes and this whole destruction of one of
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the guys a strip time is 40 unity. i'm not for at the division, but the big responsibility here is on the show on the state. and i'll try to talk to most of our biography. thank you. a thank you. and that's it for the show will be back on monday with the schiller institute to say no scar you ahead of and you will peaceful. well to being joined by james stood. milton road for him uniting the world in global development. not more, but until then keep in touch viral social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel doing undergrad tv on mobile dot com to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the the
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the, the guy's a humanitarian crisis reaches dangerous levels as it israel orders the civilian population to leave the north with the u. n. warning, it's an impossible task. a journalist is killed and 6 more injured as an international group of reporters comes under is rarely fire across the border and 11 on some other colleagues say the attack could amount to a war friday also ahead. the party reports from israel where police have tracked it down on.
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