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doing their stories and in my opinion, what we see here is uh systematic will land thought us campaign to demonize, not the mouse, but to the human eyes on the police to me and people. and this is a very dangerous matter. i do think that what we go through now as police didn't, people, is the worst time i'm the most dangerous time since 1940 cubes. one is there and conducted the ethnic cleansing, i guess 70 percent of the 1st thing that people. and the goal is not only to demonize palestinians what. busy is me, is the 3 things that are being done to us now complete the siege on guys are depriving people, including turn that into a more data from many from fluids that are medications and medicines. and then the strikes that are not to disagree,
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minutes and that after people feeling children, women's man, uh more than 400 children, hundreds of children slowed up by these strikes. and in addition to that, i plan to estimate, click lens, ballast to me, and some guys us through these out of a city that actions of what's happening today and to justify all of that. that is available. and there are many cuz unfortunately i have to get them engaging in the process of the human i zation of understanding. so i want to explore that in more detail as that a blinking jo biden's, the secretary of state, the former west exec uh, pen to can contract a consultant. he said when he arrived in tel aviv, what separates israel, the usa and other democracies when it comes to difficult situations like this is our israel and the usa is respect for international law and the laws of war. how do you think he was able to say that given footage, even on us media,
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showing them vast number of civilian casualties and depths. i said i just states has a very clear coat. i'm not on the do not to states about money was to governments, and the last 70 years is that it's a disrespect of international law when it comes to police to me initial not telling me that my posts are using the standard. one of the most obvious examples of the start of the or is what the, what they do in ukraine. sending more than $224000000000.00 of money equipment, military tax planes. somebody is whatever. and claiming, and saying that this is because you claim is fighting go corporation in our case. so the out of sending on this, these aircrafts and very heavy and bumps is one switch that missed and destroyed
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a whole neighborhood. 1111 bunk. and they and, and they said that the doing that supposed to go to buying in ones goes, declaimed out of fighting situation. and and another case they are supporting the buyers to is that or is, will have been ok, buying us and the list to bank. and as i stood by these jewels and ever since 56 years, this is the longest occupation in modern history. and not only that to have ethnically cleansed palestinians in the 1948. so there isn't a clear example of this disrespect of international law and this double standard that unfortunately is used. course them see if they need respect to the international law, they should have responded to a good tenor said, disagree with the united nations. who said that the decision guys a step in this one a and depriving people from water electricity for mid soon on medicine
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is nothing but a violation of international and the human rights which declared clearly in response to what day is an early defense minister said to and he said that the other thing is out of human animals. they said that the, what he said was disgusting. but more than that, that was baby and good old or water crimes. to be committed, i guess. but this thing and people, yes, hear you. i have going on when we're going to meet with entity blinked, and when he was in israel. but you know, antonio guitar is also condemned to, i'm us for, for what it did as well. and when you talk about the occupation, we've seen time and time again, global south countries, defeat the united states on goods for vietnam. perhaps. what, what do you believe is the strategy of the i'm us government in the gaza? i mean, there are a state that will, technically, because israel declared war gone,
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declared war and the terrorist outfits. as it was something i circled mainstream media and agent agency, what you have missed. but other than that, what is the strategy? is it a just dual sacrifice the lives of everyone in gaza because things are and have been so bad since the siege began in 20 o 7. i can speak on the mouse, but i can tell you the following festival. the day in the is there is optic luna, in gorge on people on ok. you bite the book because there is no state and guys, guys as a no q by 33. exactly like the west bank on the plaza and the sun kindful corporation, decisions by sea willing to buy and buy land and declaring good on people's dot to, to buy is something definitely that happened. and i think in modern history. and so
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now that of my relation, that is there and is do i am, but even if it's so hard then additional accept the fact that the present most the time us to and there isn't really prison. those are prison isn't for initial 3, it's palestinian prisoners, india, james as prisoners and for but they don't do that, surely palestinian resistance groups and there are many, it's not just how much that were involved in this recent taken in violence. they must have some strategy, surely. or did they? yeah, i believe or i believe 2 things happened. that is because it's becoming more clear now. festival, why did, how may i start this into this, this i think and before what time us did. and not only because we got on the q patient and the system will stop us, tied that as much was the prototype system that prevented south africa. and when i say outside, not only my opinion and it just open, you know,
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problem just international human rights wards. as well as even the is it any human rights organization, which is why do dispatch the big salem, these are the roots of the conflict and, and how much was not 250 years ago on 45 years ago or 40 years ago. at that time the, it was piano that was described to us that it was actually, i mean, monday, the busiest occupation is quite a dentist. i understand. but what, what is the military. busy author jorge. i think what, what, what's the receipt of this attack is the following? during the last day of the mazda, is it a ottoman? is there a sense of 248 other students in the west back, including for the teachers that are and continued the title of settlers? the said blood instead or under the supervision and support of the army, went as far as benjamin downs, building houses,
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bitten in cars like has happened in a lot of the messiah. we had to buy. you know, we, the citizens whose houses were bandwidth, american citizens, palestinian american citizens. i don't think it was started by doing is paying attention to them anyhow. in addition to that, the constant that tax on the ox, almost on muslim holy sides as well as christian or the sites listing as christians was picked up by as an early settlers we've seen for the location of the location taking place. apparently what you're saying is, is really important context. but then are you saying these resistance groups fell into a trap? nothing. yahoo was provoking them. and sure enough, they fell into his trap because we certainly have from seymour hersh, the great investigative journalist that uh that and yeah, who knew something like this was going to happen and let it happen according to his intelligent citizens. it says grad school several. and what is really shocking, cuz that i've started that,
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that happened. the guys are both of those. there was noise in early army and television for more than 6 hours. you know, this is it and which usually those not even us that allow i fly to fly into is it or, and without immediate to action. what happened there? why do this, the asylum? why did they they did nothing. in my opinion, i don't want to go into conspiracy and see what it is now. but i can tell you that nathaniel did something 3 weeks ago. i think almost 3 weeks ago, when he was told in the united nations in front of the hood, was in the assembly of that structure. that should be the guardian of international, the united nations. and the flag goes, then you will be the least when he come out of the country is that he will, he will normalize with and green and then have him type is it or linda center and blue color and showing the 0. and it was,
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is that is i mixing all of them to buy a boost bang next in the golan heights. and unexplained guys are stripped. a lot of times it was no fighting guys or at that time is the still claiming cause a is month to to buy it and is it or has left the guys are showing i'm i'm the next is both with the bank and gaza in my opinion. is very indicative of the plan of the elf, what he wanted to do, and it's the same time the most belong to violation of international go. i don't agree, none of the list and governments including today and i have to say is going to decide that to man except one government at the time, which is your money. everybody else stayed silent and in my opinion, he is not using what's happening to implement that lab plan that's, that's mapped. and the most dangerous thing is that they are trying to push the
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simians out of guys are into an act of ethnic cleansing through the beads. what happened to 1948 is it is yours with young people out of it goes or is it your understanding that the typical mainstream media in west and native nations talking about isis repeating the talking points. the circle has to borrow from the and that the whole government. they're comparing them us to isis. what is your understanding that the other himself treated isis patients in the golan heights? they occupied golden heights during the war on syria. yes. what is that americans also are dealing with isis before that and against and of course we have that as well known. and he nothing you know, am centralized, providing every possible support to, to, to these people because they weren't fighting because the senior and government doctor must have agreed to. i'll stop you that more from the general secretary and co founder and the palestinian national initiative and member of the palestinian legislative council. after his break
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the the public sentence. and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. several opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department c, i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do, don't watch my show state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time. but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change dwayne, say the
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in a c. 90 age. look forward to rico became a us colony, but still retain its own cultural identity. speak in favor of independence. we be thrown into prison today, close to half its population, the grow, the residence, of course a retail have new representation in congress on the u. s. presidential elections like okay, we're gonna make you american citizens, which you didn't ask for, even if we were office citizenship with had and we would prefer explain once again . it was in his twenties, he chose defiance that he's homelands independence. we felt that we could generate more of a spirit of resistance rather than submissive except for reality that we felt was like shot into the fair my sorry that i decided to fight for my
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country. no, i'm not good. i have done things differently. yes, absolutely. do i now think that violence is not the means to achieve anything? absolutely. the welcome back to going undergrad and i'm still here with the member of the palestinian legislative council doctor list of a biography. i'm sorry to have interrupted you. the just discontinue you told me about the oslo accords, which i have to say, i'm pretty discredited amongst uh many palestinians around the world today. but to go us furnace because because there are many mistakes and then but the most important to show here about nathaniel is that to you don't the whole book in 1994 to call the police under the sun in which he had started also attacked any possibility of peace was published against i'm denied for this to knows that i had to have a state. and then he was elected as prime minister was an early 1996 and killed the
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peace process. he did everything, i mean the input options of course within shuttle and was in power and on much sort of like. but this man has to be in the prime minister, mainly because of and all these 16 years. and he did everything to kill unable stability of a peaceful resolution because his doctor finance is not defined. this thing in states is boston is unexplained. ok by 30 degrees. and now what he said is that all ballasting is in guys, i must evict their homes where to go to the sea, as military is focus just on, on that point. and i think many would say it's not just net yahoo, it's a, as you know, well, structures within these riley society rather than some color health pollution for individuals that we had talking about. why uh, would it help if egypt opened the crossing? i know it was bombed a soon off to what you just said when then yeah, we said leave guys a is if there was a way to leave because what,
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what do you see is your role of interest as to what he is a conspiracy between them you know, and unfortunately this american administration, which is behaving in my opinion and it will tell you how responsible them or not because nothing, you know, said people. so they figured their homes that military spoke special also not then, you know, came out and said, simians and guys, why should they fix their arms and go to egypt. this became the headline of their own on a few days ago. and then mister can be the support special knows that american defense ministry spent that there should be a human stadium, couldn't do it with egypt, but only in one direction to egypt. so what do we see here? it's that through go spit. i seem to keep bombarding people in guys or keep them but things i'm, i'm kilograms data on event and the back you, we have guys us to,
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to egypt creating one of the worst ethnic cleansing in the 21st. okay. so we've given, given to 1000000 people, given this conspiracy that you allege, given that your record over decades of fighting for the un security council resolutions that guarantee a peace and justice for about a city and people and we've seen and the blinking and the bite. and administration administer, what maybe half a 1000000 dead in ukraine is. they pulled weapons in into the last ukranian and the fight against russia is only an attack on the moon, a nuclear weapon system in israel. the possibility that open some kind of attempted saving the population of guys and because you're only using to be into amazing, they will wipe out 2300000 people with the european union, british and american weapon. i don't know, but this is very serious. so what's happening is very serious. if people named guys
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evicted to egypt, they would never be allowed to come back. and the age of this will even letting them in. yeah. is it plugged into the loan on that isn't that's not going to happen . it shouldn't. yeah, of course it shouldn't because and what we need is a humanitarian go to door to so that would, and, and fuel and electricity and water medicine would come to guys or, you know, i am, i'm going to go to the experiment. i know you'll be, you're not even expecting that to happen because you've just outlined the fact that netanyahu has grand plans as the structures and is rarely society. why do you still put this hope that they're going to suddenly, after getting all these children going to suddenly go, let's have a humanitarian car though, as i still believes the insidious thing such as the one i still believe. and i remind you, i still believe that out of good people in every country, and i am been getting my hopes on the fact that when they see all these a lot of images,
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especially students can of children and by this time slow type. why is it aided strikes that something were to move? i also built my home on this one is that it was anywhere in the world i'm doing. i would add up. i'm but a student in there asked for the people to stand up to this order, but i tackled by the stimulus. yes. to model the i mean, and in the coming days we would see what will happen in europe. the, you know, the, the, and the governments are now prohibiting and you certainly directed demonstrations with police to me and people not funded. that'd be the most divisions with how mass bucklin palestinian people, which means we see here a very clear case of do you monetization of not only for the experience, but anybody in support of the pedestrian and i to be free of spanish tv and people that i love to be of them by the bid and killed by his earlier style just found this as a medium to him proposal. and of course, you're right there have been solved diversity demonstrations in engine easier in
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chile, in a south korea all across the world at this time. maybe that's what makes it as different. but that having to stop the prime minister of britain, putting the is really flag in solidarity with nothing. yahoo and the is really valuable on the on downing street in the european union and so forth in britain binding the palestinian flag. it appears some of the saying is the design. i understand that there is the diaspora and the greater awareness of what the palestinians are going through. but that's not going to stop this immediate situation this week. is it? as it want? it might not, but i think i hope things will start changing. we were ready and cutters by statements that are coming from different countries, not like you to be on countries, not like united states. companies like russia, fronted like china to the countries like to proceed. and countries like south africa, i think, you know, and there's a, we can in the world is not, is it earlier america on?
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and on this note, i would like to say something about what the american president said, and i wish you would not disagree minute see that you did not discriminate between american palestinians when america isn't or is you spoke about, i made it kind of as early as can he didn't mention any word about the police to me and i made it kind of most peaceful again and i'm just kidding. i'm awfully, was assassinated by i knew that or this night, but i'm plus neighbors and nobody was ever indicted for clinton. and he didn't say i, what about the 500 americans? are the students who are now in guys us through, on the bottom and on their strikes and their high life is a tightest and i'm sure many of them will die. so i'm not, you know, it's still not quite sure why you surprised by that from the american administration, knowing what they have a said the in public as to their attitude, to palestinians in general. just one quick question about the children,
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because obviously nature nation propaganda media. they're talking about the hostages, that the children and g o save the children documented is really messed attention of children. what's your experience over the years of the detention of palestinian children by the u. u. k. us back to is really government successive ones. i have to send 20 years in prison for palestinian children for throwing stones as being the sentence. that's true. and it on size 1000, throw blue fire, send to the prisoners. now in is there age is including dollars done to 100 children. and many of these children, like are the other 1260 by the studios are under administrative detention, which means they don't know why they are in june, which means they are practically kidnapped. which means that there are lawyers don't know why they are in jail, and they kind of defend this is the sort going to administer their detention
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doctors or is using, i guess, by the student people. and by the way, that's was one of the reasons why, how most conductive did i typed it. because if for more than 10 years they've been trying to negotiate uh, presidents exchange. so that kind of thing and, but it's not necessarily during the summer for me. i have been there for 4040 years and would be released and those that i know don't listen. and now the media was all i know that they were going to go in this direction to something happens. but the media pulls out as a media ceasefire to stop these optimistic. is that happening to now in goza, to save the lives of both by this to me as an is, are these. and then initiate a prisoner does exchange with all the prison or st goes or could come home safely. and then the student engineers, and those would be the least. okay. when, when is the, i'm going to be an issue. we have to see how many survive on that. i'm going to
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also us, i know the gods are authorities, claim that many of those going to that music festival according across fi with the idea of when it happened. but is it normal that there are music festivals and dancing bodies just next to the besieged guys, a strip with 2300000 people are in close. it's not been happening recently. the people young people would go and have music festivals, just me is where all these the descendants of those ethnic print plans. i believe that the, the defendants live. i don't know if this was an autumn, but i know that there is there and has made all these uh, supplements out on zillow and it does uh, as uh, to district sites. uh, every foot administered or equity fund. and do the comes is usually invited to visit these areas to showing that there is an n as in victor, no one has to be under. okay. and uh,
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so this was the habit. so i do not want to type in that system and i didn't see people can there maybe that way and people can problem areas where is there a picture of it? of course. yeah. you, you were information. minnesota jones, out of, of people living near the area. i don't think we have set up that the area of the system or not. i don't want to to, to, to justify anything. but i want to tell you something. i am a person who have own was i'm ok, the non violence or my life. i don't agree with the killing, i disagree and all that is there anyone punished again? but what we see today is something that should not be acceptable at any level, which is the human eye is ition of other students inviting. is there any to commit crimes? i've started crimes. i've started crimes against civilian police to me and people. and just to find the killing of hundreds of palestinian children, nobody should do that. it's unacceptable. and it should not be allowed just finally and very briefly. and it seemed strange to be talking about multi $1000000000.00
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weapon, re arriving in the eastern mediterranean, off the coast of cause of the united states, proclaiming it the largest aircraft carrier in the world with all its military at that. who do you think that's aimed at? i know the shares of all the big good nature nation arms companies have risen. has the death toll mounts in gaza? who is that intended for? and do you now reflect on the fact the palestinian authority should never have collaborated with israel as it has done in recent years of the festival? i think that the goal of these aircrafts done because it is very clear the days the americans lived in height and decided to say on the time they want to frighten his bella on live on. so that's a within the field, and they would not support the spanish the games and garza and i think this is the
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main goal and this is the main name i'm down the bite instead of lincoln said that they want to, i mean i'm not about to do different in some food in control. it's happening here, but i do not think that other parties can stay silent. the see i'm activating the cleansing happening or seeing more and more interesting. i'm still doing these, but it can, it strikes oh and see what happens about the student and the thought of it is so weak and it has to be marginalized and humiliated by isn't or is constantly under repeatedly. and then even the areas that should be under the student and also to do with inventive constantly by is 0. and of course, spanish thing is, i guess the security collaboration with verizon and decide especially now with all these i trust that is committed, i guess, by the student people. but i think the problem with the student knows how to do that to test him through unified palestinians. and i think at this very moment it
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is the duty of things that are best and all about us to empty the immediate 22 and a 5 listing as a stand in front of this festival. the festival feed that would take place. so i know that if mackenzie and i know that around those crimes and this whole destruction of one of the guys a strip time is for the unity, i'm not for internal division. but the big responsibility here is on bush on the state. and i'll try to talk to mr. wagner. d, thank you. a thank you. and that's it for the show. will be back on monday with the schiller institute to say no scar you ahead of and you will peaceful will to being joined by james the milton road for him. uniting the world in global development. not more, but until then, keep in touch viral social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel doing undergrad tv on your own, was on come to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday the
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