[000:00:00;00] the one of the reasons that this, the world's largest mountain made structure was built, wants to protect the fost international trading root, the salt quote, which so constant attacks from new mounts in the north. as far back as 2000 years ago, these flagstones sold the foot steps and caravans of men from soft, long paces speaking different languages wearing different clothing, trading and spices and textiles, t and ivory, gold and jade. as a nation bordering 14 of the countries china was on is you need to place to be a global nexus of trade, not just trade, which you guys decide. yeah, i hope that by engaging in full exchange of useful will contribute to pursuing the

balance involved initiative. a project on the sensory so it can bring benefits to people across the world. projects for people. so people corporations such as the so called culture. yeah, the tories, yeah. the all festival, the field, mtv project, to the seminar and the think tank guy like our floor. we're seeing these interactions have brought all people increasingly close us. the b r i has probably moved into a cultural project to funding scholarship servicing, research corporation and student exchanges. but economic into connectivity remains audits hot. and it's not just the thousands of columbus has a railway trucks and fiber optic cables along the way, nearly half a 1000000 jobs being created. and almost 40000000 people have been lifted out of publish see the be all right to date remains on challenged. not just in terms of the amount of money invested, but how it also has development without demands to fully 9 on ideology. somebody

from the developing country said to me, what we get from china is in the airport. what we get from the united states is a lecture. so hey, we all on a pod of stones in the middle of nowhere. so again, it's not too big, right? one of china for nothing. and the names, not just testament, put from monumental size. this right here is a symbol of telling us longevity of its enjoying ambitions on success in connecting nations and of its historic role in the facilitating of economic prosperity. not just for one, but for many well, now i was talking about the history, but of course the be all right is initiative that is all about the future to i want to bring back in alex, cuz we've definitely had enough of me. it's been an overdose of software in my multiple different outfits on that because you know, it's interesting. i remember when present, she visited in march. one of the final things he said to president putin was seeing,

i'm bringing about changes that have not been seen in a 100 years. and we're the ones leading the charge. nice. oh, my goodness, thoughts, a sentence to lead chills down the box of like he said, the countries that have run out of the country to invade just generally quitting before we listen to something that pretends that's what you make of this kind of recalibration for weld over time it's interesting, it's putting in check the collective west and the 5 countries here. if you look back in history, you will understand how we got to this point in history today. in fact, uh, it started with gold. americans been moved on to the dollars the trust is breaking down the petra dollar. everyone's being exposed. these countries are being exposed . and well, america builds military bases, trying to build bridges. what's very interesting as one of the things the president puts in touchpoint in not into cuz that's just quick to us into what exactly have say mr. president, recently of the valid i for them you talked about a fed multi polling weld order. you said that there was

a need for it. you've also mentioned such testing is for german isn't in morals, and ethics and values. i thought the also said that the rules based, well, or the is a manifestation of colonial thinking. what do you think? so what should be done to make international relations more democratic and different mountain build? a multi polar world folder. what do we suggest because there, by the other, you just mentioned the rooms based on i. have you ever seen those rules? no, because no one's ever put them in writing and no one is ever run them by anyone. so how can one speak of the order based on rules and i want to see from the point of view of common sense is nonsense. it is probably called. but it is beneficial for those who propagate this approach, because if no one has seen these rules, it means that those talking about data making up these rules as they go as it suits them. this is what colonialism is all about. our approach is quite different. we proceed from the premise. the old people are equal all have the same rights and the rights and freedoms of one country and one people and with the rights and freedoms

of another person or an entire state begin. this is how a multi part of the world should gradually and much. this is exactly what we're striving for. and this is what forms the cool of all cooperation with china in the international arena. it was interesting because that he's talking about how some organizations in the way that the patient must go see it. it's about quarter to on you think about some excellent policy. one us with someone feel challenged by that . it is interesting that we all seeing bricks with seeing the shanghai a corporation organization as well. but is it sad to look at these kind of really budgeting organizations as a tax on the west, or is it while the just sort of diversification of connections and ties? well, i think america should walk the walk. i mean, they're a country that says they welcome innovation. they welcome competition. same with the european union. they welcome competition. well, it's on your doorstep right now. it's right in front of you. and the interesting

thing is, is china is pursuing a more forward path to help these nations. well, i think that is definitely one of the things i mean when you look at bricks of coal . so many people also are eager to join it over food. see countries applied, which really shows you that people are invested, they're excited, feels like a historic moment that you know, we all going to see some changes on the global horizon about something that we'll be talking about and not over the coming days. i'm not too sure i'm very glad that you will be joining me, especially with your inside and knowing it's up to so many years living in china. it's not a something for you to look forward to. i hope we have teased you attempt to do to join us the next hour. we will be returning with the course of a very latest looking at this from all different angles. so what we hope you check back in mesa the

will be checking the what's ask you a throughout the day and the next 3 days as well for the meantime here on how to international, let's go back to the. but what is now the is ready, palestine, you in war, no food, water, medical supplies, fuel in gauze or it's all we're running out. hospitals that reportedly being destroyed the remaining are on the brink of collapse and the dead a now being buried in mass graves. we're looking at the loss now if more than $2600.00 palestinians over $9000.00 wounded. and most of the residents of guys are who were asked by the ad adf to evacuate. have done this so, but we understand. there was still half a 1000000 who have not yet laugh. well, that's across black. now 2 guys are based on what comes up charlotte, on the correspondent maria for an option of joining us from jerusalem. how does the 21st to you? what is the situation like where you are now, please give us the very like color

times the hello, how does the it's roll resume, show you here at most go. i hope you can hear me, but you can you give me an update at the very latest as to where you are now? can you please call again? all right, we're going to re establish the connection with homes for now over to walk east marie. if an ocean who is joining us from jerusalem, i know it's been, it's been a touch she night for every one bad with potentially the fear of more attacks. i know the idea of has continued a fair amount of offensive. it's from its side of the border. what is the latest where you are now? a well overnight israel has been been bogged in dozens of charges, and the guys as 3 political say to us the worst night and 10 days of the escalation and the most intense fire in 2 hours alone, they were 5th to strikes, registered unprecedented number. indeed, the army says that the targets are the sides connected with the activity of have

mice and palestinian islamic tied militant groups based industry play. western storage is and base as on the other side of the goals, or israel continues deploying chains. our resume codes and other munitions and equipment. we went to intro south yesterday and we've seen all that. and in addition to that, massive amount, all these really trips, we hear that tens of hundreds of them are now being deployed and all that in preparation for a massive significance ground defense is that is expected in the upcoming days. the goal, the declared goal of this operation, is to destroy him, us, and eliminate the terrorist threat in this house is realize, you know, consider is for mazda a terrorist organization. and we've heard these really commander in chief saying that we have to enter a gas, and in, although it is not exactly clear what will be characterized as a victory in this case, we know that israel has been talking about

a 10. i says infrastructure and it has been saying that the res and intensive extensive system of underground tunnels underneath good guys and see to this is where they have mass militants and paused. and as long as you had enough sense as well, probably hide and hide the launchers between the strikes. so this is why we still see him as a target in israel, and that's one of the countries southern communities. but like yesterday, for example, the city of telling me was under attack and now or receive justifications about to tags in the south. and in the settlement, they're like, be they and kind of me or so they are still capable of doing that. and probably the system of on the ground channels, often milan and they shouldn't be eliminated. but apart from that is not exactly clear what should be done and what will be considered as victory for israel and other goals. of course a for is role is to bring this kidnapped ad was for,

for now. we know that at least 155 is really families have been notified to that. their loved ones are house hostage by have mass mountains, indic as as 3, but of course the army has to return to them home. and there is a huge pressure here among the population on the government, on the army. so this a goal should be accomplished and the addition to that, how much is holding at least 50 dad, but, and the army should return them back to these rel to maria. i just wanted to ask you quickly because we know we know that israel has been talking for days now about a looming ground operation. they said at one point is going to be delayed because of the weather wasn't quite appropriate. can, can you give us an update? is it gonna start any, my mental, what do you know that it was expected for many days already? one of the reasons that we could think about is the fact that for now,

despite large scale and back creation of civilians from the so called guys the envelope and is ro south announced by the authorities. thousands of people still remain there. and we hear that the army should clear that area before a starts in the ground operation. another reason potential one to be the fact that guys is a role. so and not willing to leave the house is for various reasons. some of them just do not have a place to run to others, do not have transportation. as you know. following is ro, sage. there is a drastic shortage of food, walter and fuel for so some are simply, i'm capable of moving around. others say they are afraid to move around because of these rarely air strikes continue and intensify. as we've seen those nights, there are reports about humanitarian porter is open from time to time over there to allow civilians to leave. but it's actually very hard to verify at this moment

whether it actually works because we here are 5 and just here of lines of words, guys, a non stop, it looks like strikes. a good strikes, continue all the time, plus some of the people there. some guys may be afraid of her mouth because the militants grow cold on people not to leave and to stay there. probably there a is to use them as a human shield. and meanwhile, they sat and declared many times that they are ready to confront the enemy. and they are $40000.00 strong, an army is fully prepared. as for israel's ground operation, i think that israel is right now measuring all the risks and like a sas in how ready these really are me is yeah. well meantime area, a 2nd american aircraft carrier is on route to that part of the world that will be to america may be flipped tellos that to be parking alongside the is ready coaster . all these more if an ocean and jerusalem were going to try and re establish the

connection with a gauze at base john with how does that child line? we appreciate your patience. this is off the international now, in his latest interview, the american president drove by and dr. being august about the us meddling in the middle east and ukraine and at the same time 5 and says america can easily tackle both conflicts at one of the wars in the israel and ukraine. more than the united states can take on it. the secretary of the united states of america, for god's sake, the most powerful nation in the history, not in the history of the world, the history of the world. we can take care of both of these and still maintain our overall international defense. well, here we go again. as a us dispatch is yet another aircraft carrier to support israel. you'd imagine that the perpetual wherever the gate in washington will be seeking twice before jumping headlong into yet another red hot,

foreign conflict. it also imagine that there misadventures, interact, syrian of chemist on may have led to a more cautious approach to foreign policy. well, you'd be wrong, they medical kind of a few or they're pure pure evil perception. and again, the united states make no mistake about it stands with israel. here's my message. if hes blog, which is a proxy of a ron launch is a massive attack on israel allow, consider that a threat to the to, to the state of israel ex, substantial in nature when or do so resolution united states senate to allow military action by the united states in conjunction with this rule, to knock a run out of the old business, or ron, if you escalate this war, were coming for you. this shouldn't be personal for every woman and man in america . why? because when they did this, when they did the surprise attack,

when they took these hostages, when they murdered these families, they were celebrating. and what were they celebrating? they were saying death to israel, death to america. this is not just an attack on israel. this is an attack on america because they hate us just as much, but it seems to the growing list of failed for an interventions proxy was a jew, be as alliances, hasn't cool to see me. and let's desire for an even bigger war. and it's odd to me blinking phase 2 of worth you negligible regionally collapsed that with a company escalation. a recent high level report for the u. s. congress has advised lawmakers to prepare for full scale nuclear confrontation with russia and china. essentially what they're saying is get ready for world war 3 in the mills really troubling and increasingly aggressive behaviors. so frustrating china or the past decade lead congress to direct a review of this strategic posture. the united states, including nuclear weapons,

policy strategy and for structured thankfully on the russian and chinese sides. cooler heads are prevailing, as they both call for de escalation and palestine with russian president vladimir putin also pointing out the absolute insanity of even contemplating a full scale conflict. between the world's great powers, it seems that yet again, in the us government's thirst for a forever war, common sense is the 1st casualty. yes. then you try to, will you? what do you want to go to war with russia? it's a different kind of war. it's not a special military operation. look at what is happening in the middle east. is it a special military operation? if we're talking about a war between great nuclear power? so that's a different story. i don't think people in their right mind could think of such an idea. and if it does, it's alarming. and we were talking more over to go to war with both russia and china once is nonsense of course. so as you cranes failing proxy, war certainly drops off the west and media's radar. it seems, is wireless now become the latest place to be seen to stand with. that's of course,

until the bigger fish, like say, tie one knocks them off the top spot for moral outrage. an iron clad support. whatever happens in the coming weeks and months. the us politically lead, she'll be acutely aware, the well taking on home us on to 1000000 impoverished palestinian civilians is one thing. taking a rush and china is something completely different. maybe it's time for uncle sam to realize that to defend everywhere is to defend nowhere or that's going to abroad a vision on the us presidents interview and his remarks coursing alive now to radio host and a political company. they did areas steve, gil, it's always so good to see you, steve. i loved being able to pick your brain, especially when it comes to geo politics. what do you think you drove by it and saying 2 conflicts on 2 friends, one in ukraine, one in garza, it's no problem. america can handle both of them. your thoughts as well as emphasize contradicting. a recent reports that the us, munitions that have been devoted to ukraine, the,

the weapons and the lessons left behind that afghanistan, that the america is running short on the weather. and so it needs to conduct a war in one region, not less 3. so i think it, that is, the administration is contradicting itself. the other thing that i saw in the 60 minutes interview i think that we're doing is to try and project strength on behalf of joe biden. but his weak voice is appearance. but why that he does not appear strong? he did not appear strong in the interview. and i think the more he stumbles around up and down stairs steps the more his voice is weakened. and it sounds like uh, an old grandpa. and i think scott felt like the interviewer was treating him with kid gloves as kind of like the interviewing your grandfather around the dinner table. yeah, i think is a very good point, especially with the, with the election, not that far off. so you like, i guess, i guess the pot he needs to project an image of strength and capability. all that kind of stuff that i wanted to ask you, you know, 5 buys and says i'm, we're not going to dispatch in the us troops to israel and made the war on going now with the palestinians. i know how boss,

but america will provide israel with everything. it needs that steve, this into this just for a moment, stand by. i want you to listen to what by and had to say. can you for see us troops in combat in this new middle east or more? i don't think as i say israel has one of the finest fighting forces. i can't guarantee we're going to provide them everything they need. yeah. when you think about a safe, you know, i guess america's past experience, afghanistan and iraq, when they joined ne tobin into libby a as well, what do you, i mean, can you read between the lines? what do you think will us troops potentially be dispatched to the middle east region? and i think they will do their best to avoid that. i think you're already getting more fatigue after again, that disastrous withdraw enough damage stand in the never ending or they are. i think there's war fatigue with uh, continuing to support ukraine. you're seeing a big split that just among republicans,

but also democrats in washington about the blank check that we've been writing in ukraine for it with no apparent result. and then the idea that you go into another battlefield, putting american troops at risk. there is always a strong vain of isolationism in us politics. and i think the by the ministration is pushing strong against that. again, as you point out, as we had towards an election year. the other thing i thought was interesting of this interview is the tele really didn't push him on the intelligence failure. and there are many, it is in ministration. del talking about it from the israeli standpoint. but the us intelligence failure of not seeing this coming. i think the latest reports of the 2500 terrorist across the border parachuted into is real. how was dismissed. that was the leadership, but in our own intelligence, got communities missing this. and there are to be some real tough questions. asked both here and it is real about how this massive attack was missed with apparently the, i mean the reports are all the steve, the cairo was warning officials and israel,

4 weeks before the hamas stripe. they said how much is preparing an unprecedented attack. and israel apparently apparently ignored the warning. steve, i want you to just bear with me for another witness. listen to another comment from present a bible. he says the israel follows all the rules of wolf have a quick listen to this. i'm confident that israel is going to act as a major dessert, the rules of war. there are, there is a standard set, democratic institutions and countries will grow grow by and so i'm, i'm confident that there's going to be that ability for the indices garza to be able to have access to medicine, food and water. so there is, so there is the american presidency that israel follows a guess the laws of more fat, but that's been so much reaction already from so many parts of the world saying

that the way israel is conducting this actually goes against international law or rate between the lines for us still for steve what's, what's your take on this? that? i think israel has been bending over backwards looking at kind of an urban environment, knowing that they have the titles in gaza city where the fighters stay underground the, the civilians above ground to be sorted their protective cover. so i think that the israel has been fighting hard to avoid the targeting civilians on like the mos side of this on like what has the line others do when they target civilians intentionally, there will be collateral damage when you're going into this kind of a conflict and i think israel's doing the best that they can, i don't think it's helpful to israel side for the president. the already started harping and criticizing it. you're already seeing the left is media in the us starting to balance the, the victims, the casualties in the, in gaza against those that were killed in the brutal assault is real. not really looking at the context of one was targeting civilians. this is collateral damage.

and i think the other thing is that they're including the mos leadership, the military leadership, among the so called civilian casualties when they, when they report is here. and it's interesting that the, by the administration has not paid attention to the atrocities, to the war. crimes committed by ukrainian militia in the dumbass region for the last 9 years. they weren't talking about that. then when civilians were targeted when they continued to be targeted by their allies in ukraine. and you're not hearing the same reports as, as the russians special operations move in to those, those areas where they've pushed the ukrainian military and melissa back. you're not hearing about the assessments that abuses of civilians that we saw from the ukrainian side and continued to see targeting of civilian areas when they're firing missiles past the front lines. they're clearly targeting civilians. yeah, i think i think it's a very, very fair comment. actually, a radio host on political coming to steve deal with joining us through an aussie international. it's always

a pleasure to see you. thank you very much for your time. a bank for a while, a polish opposition lead donald to us because claim victory in the countries national elections. off the exit polls show, the incumbent potty has lost its majority go up. a scott phone has one democracy has one. we have driven them from power. this result made to now to be even better. we can already announce it today. this is the end of the screen period. this is the end of the reign of the law and justice party . so i have no doubt that this day will go down in the history of poland as a bright day. as a data opens a new era, throughput of our public property, or if the exit polls results the end of officially steining the lower and just as potty get more parliamentary seats than any other party. 200, but not enough to form a government. a 3 main nobodies and bodies of likely want to combine 248 seats. so

let's take this conversation further now here on our to international i let's so let's join our guest at george w a, a senior research fellow with a global policy entity. joining us here. we're not you international georgia. so good to have you want just i know i know you know this story very well. just just give it to me straight would the election outcome why, why poland ruling party hasn't managed to achieve an absolute majority like it has before. so we don't know yet the final outcome, the exit polls are not in line with the, the voting as it's being conducted right now. so it's possible that the final outcome will be a little different from what the exit polls suggest that much as that happened in the case of slovakia, a few weeks ago where the exit polls predicted that robust co would lose. and then pico is however, a brendan, is that so i think what, what should hold out before you know, breaking out the champagne. so donald says,

what about what about the issue of ukraine? it's been a big one from poland to just the head of this crucial vote. we've seen a sudden change in rhetoric and was so whether it's about ministry a, the, the giving of ministry, a from pose. and also the in from as grain did bade good can, can you bring in the ukraine fund to enter this for us whether you create a fact. so plays a, um, a role. um that is because the polls are getting very tired of this uh, war. there's no real love lost um between phone and then ukraine. you know where there's a long history of deep uh, animosity in strife and the lord just this body, which went full in uh for your brain when old infant nato's war found that the public wasn't really with them. and so suddenly, in the selection, they re discover polish and national interests were published. national interest

obviously was not compatible with cheap ukrainian grain being dumped on the polish market. so the opponents of the announce that when we weren't going to take in any more ukrainian rain, the farming boat is huge, really important in poland. so the loan, just as by the, has to do that. however, i have my doubts that they will maintain this of this stance off to the election. i think who whoever wins, whether it's low or injustice also they platform um they will get back on board with nato because both of them has just the boldest ruling elite has so much invested in this uh. ready oregon is russia. i always interesting comment to that from george. i'm a while a senior research fellow at the global policy institute. george, thank you. thank you. thank you for joining us. thrown off to international. we come to live from moscow. it's nearly 10 o'clock monday morning. we are back in about one minute.

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the at the debt total and gas or reach is $2600.00 to you. and the side of the region is quote, on the verge of the, of this, if you buy the air and cries, reaching new law, it was just food, water, and medical supplies. they're all running out. the united nations peacekeeping force 11 on his court in the crossfire as israel and hezbollah exchange drive. and so it's the 1st day i need to review both houses, killing civilians, women and children entire families inside their homes. the 4th is clearing the