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i mean, we know that this going to be a john packed for 2. it was, we know that president periods and she didn't probably going to meet lots to talk about the what else do we know any details about boots and 4 minutes and not prof schedule yet? well, we are in central phasing now securities. i can tell you very heavy the, these, these new ones, because so many needs is presence probably minutes. you over a 130 countries moving a 130 countries will be represented here, uh bought by delegations here in beijing of the states residence in the middle of the city. and this is of course, 1st of all about the belt of root issues. if we choose one of the biggest mega projects in recent times, china as a mass mode, the well close enough to $8000000.00 over the past 10 years. it is
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10 years old, the broken roads initiative, but is it has a mass, this huge fortune in order to input connect with countries that the cheese as for change of the vital for its its future. it says that the deepening of ties between china and all these countries will these, these routes by which chinese goods and services will flow through the outside world will bring the prosperity to old and russia. vladimir putin has said that the chief supports, he supports this project as a subject with, as also a voice by say, gate lever of rushes for administer. who arrived a day before the russian president look this, this is also, of course, an opportunity for all these leaders to mingle the tools on the sidelines that this will be undoubtedly be a huge part of this conference. i've tried to get through to me today, for example, set to meet the presence of prime ministers from uh from both vietnam and thailand
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. tomorrow they'll be, they'll be moving meetings with, with heads of states and so other delegations, other dignitaries on coming here business to meet us at people that want to get involved with the b, r i project who wants to share their opinions. so the chinese side will be able to countries at the end of today, russia and china, of course, have a special relationship. it has been described. the search by both lead this relationship the that has new limits. that is how both leaders have described. the trade is ballooning, the 20200000000000 turnover revenue between the 2 sides between the 2 countries, russian, china, over the last year. we've also heard vladimir putin, the squad. what are these that makes the child to the side of russian relationship? so successful, it's every step but the russian showing that would guide the 1st and foremost by the national interest. the way each side understands that when either of the 2
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sides sort to take the next step, it always may show it to consider the opinion and interest of the other. whatever issue we addressed, we always have to compromise. even in the more complicated methods, the rooted in the past, not to mention the role of russian chinese relations and ensuring global stability . that alone is a fundamental component of all relations combined. all of these fact suggest that we've been going in the right direction and that it serves the interest of by the chinese and the russian peoples we've uh, also had heated from so the level of rushes for minutes about what are these the of the leaders of russia and china might discuss and that is everything. he said. so he left her upset the they will discuss the side of russian relationship. it's 2 pallets and so the subject time uh on both sides see where they stand on the most pressure pressure issues today would shut down and leave will include include the,
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the conflict even between palestine and israel, as well as the conflict between russia and ukraine. but i'm sure that we'll hear many more details as the conference unfolds over to today and tomorrow. the yeah. up sender. yeah, definitely seems that there was a note on the agenda that nicky, i know you're at the actual for him. i mean, i can imagine, you know, this is the attempt to, on a vast 3. there's probably a special atmosphere. what's the bypass it? good and have you heard anything interesting yet? i sounds good. yes. the opposite. he writes, i'm here at the, for him, in the media center to be most specific. you probably see thousands of journalists bouncing around behind me. it's not just international journalists, but there's some old across the china. of course, this is the country's most important diplomatic event of the year and also as you
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said, marketing in 10 years since its inception is quite extraordinary feeling for me because i was actually living here in china in 2013. when president she came to tell when he launched the belt and wrote in the states and the note of how i was hoping about a lot. but now 10 years later to see the impact that is high, that means you know, deals, the son good. i have to have a $200.00 bill sign, whatever a $150.00 countries across squad confidence. wow. trying has been really busy, you might like best and so on. the issue is, wow, dozen times sli a decade. wow. which is what i can give you all these numbers for days, but to really know how to balance and what it needs to be playing out on the ground . i have a special guest with me on doing that by c t t and report that younger change. see you actually spend weeks traveling around all of the belts in road countries to get a sense of how is making an impact on the ground. thank you. so much for joining us today. i know how busy you are this week and you've been traveling a lot,
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so i take it, could you give us an idea of what struck you the most about the belts in both countries, of course now for support. thank you very much for having me on the program. now when we talked about the felt enrolled initiative, we can talk about this merits pros and cons on paper on the internet for we it's on end, but it's a whole nother thing. when you go see these projects in prison and see how the benefits people's lives and make doing business a lot easier. for example, we went on the world's highest paid road called the care core on highway, which link focused on and china. and the 2nd phase of the project has been just didn't finish in 2020, under the belt enroll initiative and the traders. i met along the, along the way say this highway really provides a safe and stable way of, of moving goods around in a disaster prone area. and which is very convenient. opposed to a much longer see ruth, that has to go through the state of alaska and to southeast asia,
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so it makes doing business a lot more, easier and safer. and by the way, many traders on the way call me assumed which means, uh, brother in chinese, that so it's huge. oh wow. you've seen some incredible site says why it must be such a proud to be like the states, the impacts that beat belts in broad initiative is happening happening. that's why i'm not just because normally people are countries but also on people's lives. the husband criticism, so hasn't though, particularly of countries looking to china thinking how long it been, it you, you know, going into these countries during this. what are you trying to call cause the which is something that brought to me a page and also mentioned that he was exclusive and speak with cctv earlier this week. what are your thoughts on that? is it, is there any truth to it? well, i'm just trying to conquer the main controversy. i think it really surrounds this idea of i saw called that truck while the phrase is relatively new. the idea of the notion itself is not a new invention even years before the belt and wrote initiative was ever composed. the same accusations have being levied on certain western financial institutions
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for their allegedly predatory lending behaviors towards developing countries. these accusations were quickly dispelled as mis, and conspiracy theories by the same western media organizations. we sticking to the st, talking points this time on china, against finance, while lacking any concrete evidence of how the so called that trap really materializing into a so called a default occupation, call them as ation scenario. so that seems to me a little bit of a double standard. yeah, i mean the one that has been providing for an aide and investing in in foreign countries since the 1950s. there's nothing new right now. the bells and red initiative on the renew umbrella. and it's about cooperation, right? it's about development and cooperation. speaking of economic cooperation and development, and some of these countries do have an intangible example as far as from your travel. sure, i can give you a very concrete example. for example, we went through the port a previous in greece, which is as old as the country itself. it's been the ports and for thousands of
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years. so about 40 percent of the local population have their likelihood dependent on the port. so in 2009 and chinese shipping try and costco, we used to peers at the port and we all remember one year after that in 2010 degree gets prices in the port was near bankruptcy. so costco, through a lot of upgrades and automation and business practices, a lot of good forms which china has experienced as the child has gathered throughout the years for being the world tech has really upgraded the port and lifted it's spending from about 95 plays pre 2009 in the world to a 38 place today. so in the meanwhile, generating a lot of revenues, profits, which translates into taxes and fees that for the local government, for the local economy. and what's more important is that the entire process was done without any major layoffs and wage guns. so that is a very concrete example of how the benefits such an important business,
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which the entire population, almost half of it depends their likelihood. great, thank you so much for that. i expect so maybe don't know exactly what it's going to come out with the next 2 days, but i expect that going to be discussing the challenges, facing people, somebody needs to say the and what lies ahead over the next 5 for 10 years as well . so what do you think some of the challenges all and how they might be able to come? well, there are multiple challenges i can mention to. first of all is of course some of the enmity from certainly western politicians towards the projects which through media and social media will inevitably spill over an effect of the ordinary people . and i mean, because at the end of the day, the success of the initiative really depends on how it winds over the common people, the locals, and how that's really important gauge of how successful these projects are. and i think a 2nd challenge is security concerns in some of the less stable countries. experts
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have talked about how certain separatist groups or terrace groups might want to hold the safety of certain vi projects as hostage leverage against their own authorities. so these, when these projects go, maybe 10 more years into the future, this will be a long term concern for the b r i projects in the future. thank you so much for talking to us today. really appreciate your time and we have a special treats as well because we actually get to see one of your, your trips. i think it's 2 is done both. right. so let's take a look at the young. thank she's this is, is conbal airport. one of the world busiest terminals was about $200000000.00 passengers per year. however, when travellers step out of the building and hit the bustling streets of this metropolis, it could take them up to an hour and a half to reach the city center. in january this year, a brand new airport mitchell line was opened, reducing the travel time to just 24 minutes. where you go,
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he is the surface center chief of this line. if any of them has the habit, this is the 1st space of the airport line as a total lives of 34 kilometers operation. begin on january 22nd of this year. all the traits on this line are provided by our company, c, r, r c, to jo locomotive the train travels at 120 kilometers an hour, making it the fastest way and took a capable of ferrying up to $800000.00 passengers per day. to the chance of the small or crude trade configuration to assist the 4 cars. but the design to be flexible, it can be coupled together to form longer trace of need. so there on the bottom passenger sort of additional cars can be got it to make it an 8 cartridge handle. as we were filming a passenger came up to offer advice to way 5 are going to happen to have this
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thread in here. it's very comfortable. i'm not say the animal or shuffle balls. there's 3 or 4 patients. the city's public safety is a top priority with over 800000 kilometers of smooth operation on the record. in the last time, a safety concern was triggered was during a major earthquake in south east turkey. in february, when i say he has a problem. with this 50 minutes, we mobilize our onsite team to conduct the inspection of the vehicles. after careful examination, it was determined that the trains were don't see, the only relief which i want me to meet you going thing off as early as the go curly the 1st stage of the project, the traits are fully automated. i took them however, in the 2nd phase of the project, all the trains will be upgraded to operate was on man driving this life is the 2nd stage project. when did you upgraded trees are locally manufactured in
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a capital and car boosting local employment. in this high tech project, dental's, the city of is time board took in a roll spoil for gas have for this for, and i'm joined down by program political on this alex report by um, you know, what i was looking at this great, well, you know, 21000 kilometers, felt some parts of it back in the 7th century. that along with the b r i a testament to the fact that china can build, build faust, build well and build cheaply. i'm guessing there's some people out that you don't really like that. yeah, i understand this is a very, very big b for china. i think many of the provinces autonomy is regions, municipalities where i'm from challenging it's a massive day. and why is that important? well, in junction, we have something called the international nancy tree core door. and it connects over, i think, somewhere around 700 ports through 120 connected nations. now,
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this really changes everyone's live all the way down that chain. there is even trans leaving junction. all the way to do is bird in germany. now why it's important is because china is taking the last decade here and said, all right, we need to get these goods to the market and it needs to be reciprocal. these other nations need to benefit as well. so if you're a durian farmer in thailand, for example, 95 percent of the export markets in, during, from thailand comes to china. so it's not just a win for china, but it's a win also for other nations connected to the b r i absolutely bringing and voice and infrastructure nations, which wouldn't necessarily a guess it that'll be something that we will be discussing a bit later on with you of course, in the meantime, what i do want to do is just cross certified to a report that was requoted by all to use correspond didn't read a cost report about russian china and the strategic relationship. let's have
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a look. the most common basing has been building their friendship for decades, and it seems that now that friendship is stronger than ever, which is very significant. considering this states all of global affairs. and not only are they helping each other out, but also working with other countries to ensure their common ultimate goal of a multi polar world. unlike some countries cleaning hedge mony, i'm bringing discord to the global harmony. russia in china are literally and figuratively building bridges are countries together with like minded actors, have consistently advocated the shaping of a more just multi polar world order based on international law, rather than certain rules serving the needs of the golden 1000000000. russia and china have consistently worked to create an equitable open and inclusive regional and global security system that is not directed against 3rd countries. and the like minded countries to their club through the international forms. they found that
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like the shanghai corporation, organization, and directs. and these to platforms not only becoming more popular, but also more relevant as various countries, especially in the global styles, have become disillusioned by western alternatives and their policies. they feel that the west is now looking out for their best interest as resorts to bully message when it doesn't get its way. president biden seems to make america weaker on the world stage every single time he travels abroad. and now he's taking his jumbo jets with his entourage to lecture india in the global south on the climate change. while he's of contributing to some of the behaviors that contribute to something they say is so serious. we need to make sure that we're leading by example, and as a result of this proceed topography, the global south is being turned against us by russia and china. there is no one size fits all time plate to guide countries and establishing democracy. a nation
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can choose which phones, methods of implementing democracy that would best suit his particular state based on its social and political system, its historical background, traditions and unique cultural characteristics. it is only up to the people of the country to decide whether they've state is a democratic one. that's why most going beijing are building a block of economically powerful countries to resist what they see as western unilateralism. and if you take into account all the members of these organizations, as well as the ones that will be added soon, you can see just how much weight they hold. and these countries will less dependence on the west. the majority of trade, for example, between russia and china, is already settled in rubles, or you want. and what for 8, that is the equivalent about $190000000000.00. well, that was last year, and that number is only set to grow. and 5,
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russia is now one of china's top trade partners for the 1st time in history. the 2 countries also hold the joint military exercises on the regular basis, and they tend to agree on most international issues. well, imagine what will happen when older friends drop the dollar as well and unites militarily. it will definitely we shape the international system. and that's exactly what they're after. these plays you are in place. so for this i'm stage dogs. consequently, some things is rotating, damsel add ons, and the counselors and chain window. yeah. so age, those for lunch. i want to shoot this. uh, let me show you the shop right now. first thing we need
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to talk about countries. us, as i said, well that's good. that's like the most developed with these 2 countries because they're not selfish. they're asking for when, when partnership perhaps so that is already a good thing. they're not coming to push us down at the 2 digits as you need. this paternal is pick attitude of the united states that consists of making people believe the african countries belong to them. as france has done in several french speaking countries, i believe that we must move towards where the interest of our countries lie up to the computer lab, mississippi. the western powers need to understand that we are no longer in the era of colonization. whether is this relationship that by for so power, some can dominate others and submit them to the wishes election. china knows what it's developing. russia knows what it's developing, like, and they have shown,
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contrary to other countries, that they did not come to impose anything. it's obvious that washington is on a side of this powerful friendship. so adding even more countries to the list is definitely not great news for the us. and that's why they even came up with a new applicant policy. so counter china and ross is presence in the confidence. and this spring, us officials visited several african countries, promising numerous headlines states and that the scramble for africa had begun. they're trying to entice or african partners lots. many of them are fed up, quite frankly, looking for a breath of fresh air. something they seem to find in russia and china is future plans and perception of the world. and every meter is yet another opportunity to map out that future. for joining me right here is ben notes and editor of the 2 political economy reports and freshly moved to basing no one best to to give us an
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insight into the. all right, and of course the rising modes, pardon? well, because the b r y is that's what it's really about connecting these nations, giving them infrastructure and for east i'm, especially because we obviously talk you out into the shadow of the israel palestine conflict. and i was thinking, you know, you've got the arab league bring back syria, you have it wrong on saudi reinstating toys, people of african union, introducing its ideas for peace and ukraine. it's almost as if on china talking about is around pa decide to as of multiple r t as well. so promise the piece. as absolutely right, i mean, the reality is that if we look at many of these regions of the world in the global south, they were colonized for hundreds of years by western powers. and finally, after getting their independence, these countries have been able to develop. and what we see is the creation of new institutions and new projects of like the bound wrote initiative that are providing opportunities for these countries. so they can actually create infrastructure. we
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have to ask why is it that for instance, the u. k. colonized india for 200 years. why didn't they create any actual infrastructure to help lift people out of poverty? in fact, more people were in poverty. when british colonialism ended in india, now we see the western powers hypocritically accusing china of doing what they did . meanwhile, china is actually helping to build roads and hospitals and ports and schools, things that these countries need to develop. so it really is a force for peace and development. let me see this increasingly multi polar world. you know, we, we constantly hear that supposedly the western powers claim that, that as their hedge had you mind control over the world, weekends, it's going to bring about more instability. but how can anyone, with a straight face, say that the last 20 or 30 years have been an era of peace and stability. we're talking about the us invasion of iraq through times. the war and syria, the war in libya that destroyed the libyan state. the destruction of yugoslavia, the no longer exist as a country so absolutely. now that the world is becoming more,
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more multi polar. now that the countries that were colonized and they've been able to develop have more of a voice in the international stage. we can see that they are the ones calling for peace. you mentioned the conflict in israel, palestine. there was just a session at the un security council and russia propose a resolution for humanitarian ceasefire. that sounds like a great thing that everyone should support. what were the countries that oppose that the u. s. the u. k. friends in japan, the old colonial powers. what were the countries that supported the call for a cease fire? it was china, russia, mozambique, bone and the u. a. so countries in africa there were colonized and china and russia and also the u. 8. so, and they're the ones pushing for peace in the world. what the, what, when the old colonial powers continue to push for more war? it is interesting. we talk about obviously the us justifies a lot of it, some patients by saying on national interest and our national security is at risk. i find the national security is really just a sending them full of us toner. i mean, the, the tom
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t told her eyes ation has been found to, to around for a while now. but it definitely feels in the last 18 months so, so that we've reached some kind of historical cross roads. it's not right. it's absolutely right. with the western sanctions on russia that are they violate international law. we've seen a massive interest in the dollarization, especially dollarization of trade between countries that trade with russia and also countries a trade with other nations. so for instance, china and brazil have deed authorized their trade. china is trading and it's currently the one for zillow is trading in the rail. it's currency. we also see projects of like belt and road are part of this process of d dollarization because after the 2008 financial crash, which was created by the us banking system and destabilize the global economy, it was a wake up call for china and trying to realize that it needs to start diversifying its economic relations with other partners, especially in the global south. and this is one of the ideas that led to the creation of the belt road project 10 years ago in 2013. and the idea is to bring
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back the silk road to re integrate trade in asia, also to build more ports and integrate countries, you know, throughout, throughout, you know, different. yeah, oceans. i mean, not just, it's not just one belt what road anymore. it's all across the world, the string of pearls as they refer to it. so what we're seeing really is all of these projects are about moving the center of the global economy away from the trans atlantic western powers. and the dollars ation is a big part of that because the us tries to impose its economic gemini on the rest of the world and uses the dollars a weapon to do that. if countries like china and russia and indeed any run can create these new institutional frameworks. so they can trade with each other and hold other forms of, you know, reserves in their foreign exchange reserves. then they can engage in mutually beneficial trade and development. and they can also be sure that the western powers can not simply steal their central bank reserves, which is exactly what happened to russia. the western powers store $300000000000.00
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in your o's of assets. the us also store the central bank reserves of venezuela, of iran, of i've got a son which is causing a fan and right now, so it's no surprise at so many countries are looking for alternatives. and they're looking for ways to trade that don't involve a dollar and then also explains again why they're so interested in things like the adult run initiative and just quickly also have your final question i'm we've seen at the immunization of the b r i b will so see the static ration of breaks and its expansion. a watching team has got about economy. what can it possibly contribute? it runs a pride symbolic piece for russia. what is it? is it fair? no, it's ridiculous. i mean, we have to ask why it is urgency, and i keep having these problems because of this history of this neo colonial, that relationship, the debt that argentina holds, which is the stabilizing. the economy is largely owed institutions like the international monetary fund, which is controlled by the united states is the only country vito power. and it's also owed to vulture,
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funds on wall street who are profiting from these economic problems. that's why countries like argentina are interested in joining bricks and seeking alternative. it's why also urgency in art and china are de dollar rising, their trade as well. and of course there are many other countries you mentioned iran. iran is a country that yes, it is demonized by the western powers, but in much of the global self, which represents the global majority, they don't see run the same way. they see iran is a country that has withstood 40 years of constant attacks and sanctions by the western powers and has been able to continue to advance, develop its own technology, its own infrastructure, and can defend its national interest. so that's why it even long time western allies like saudi arabia, that historically have been so close to the us, even they're starting to diversify their relations because they can see that the future of the global economy lies toward the east, not toward the west. the western economies are in decline in the bricks. economies already represent more than one 3rd of the world economy, and they continue to increase and their share. i know it's asking you when i speak
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to you and all the people, it really seems like an exciting new period of history that was finally entering. i'm so grateful, but you were here to join us in this sport that was bad norton at the top of the interior political economy report, but it's due to the south, but we will be back of course, with the very latest with people from like ban here in china, but uh on the on the will but also in beijing we'll see later on the,
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