the hello and welcome to cross side where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. what those jo biden's bizarre visit to israel tell us the green light of land invasion of gauze. it was a deal made to allowed a deliveries from egypt essentially. does the binding administration have a strategy? in the meantime? palestinians and gods are, are dying at record numbers, the processing policy. and i'm joined by my guess for me 3 less got us in. they wrote is a lawyer, and if a freelance journalist also be what we have are what us been, she is a assistant professor at the lebanese international university and political commentator and in raleigh, we cross survey mcgovern. he is a former c. i a analyst. all right, cross talk roles in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated, right. if i go to you 1st in raleigh, and i'm looking at politicians in israel and then this whole train upon the western

politicians making their homage to jerusalem. i can't i, i have this feeling that i have this echo in my head. this is all the same rhetoric from 911. this is the, the global war on terrorism all over again. and we know how bad ended on and on top of it, everyone, george w bush. he has been rehabilitated completely and without any push back whatsoever. so i wanted to start with the, the larger picture, re what is going on here. and then we're going to dig deeper. obviously you want in the crisis, it's going on in palestine. go ahead, right? of the biggest thing, theater is what the old soviets used to call a correlation of forces. now, over the last 20 years, the correlation of forces has had a tech tonic shift. and that was apparent that the united nations yesterday, when the us had to veto a cease fire resolution and a pro have issued against what the israelis were doing, just placing people in kaiser. and it was the only only no vote that as big.

so what's going on here? well, i don't think biden is being well advised. a surprise, surprise. i don't think he knows what he's doing. i don't know who's writing his note cards. when he says, as he did on the plane, you know, i don't understand why people would believe this rarely version of what happens there are, there are. so, i mean, oh, maybe it was, maybe it was unintended. i mean, give me a break. so what i'm saying here is the correlation of forces has changed as the multi paula world. it's a bipolar world. it's the united states, and is vito, it goes to the rest of the world, you know, mar. well, one of the things that this administration is known for is the rules based order. we hear that all the time. well, there's no such thing as a rule space order. now if israel is not held to account for what it's doing and they don't want us to hold israel to account,

go ahead and bear with not only they don't want us to hold israel to account, they don't even want us to talk about the calamity and the atrocities that is being suffocated and suffered in being put as a burden for a lifetime. i guess people have found a spot, especially in gaza. i mean, they don't want us even to report about the massacres, but these really entity commit to the last of which is the baptist hospital, which took more than $1200.00 lights, including women and children majorly, and women and children. it's not only about and letting israel do what it can and what it should, the eyes of the west against the need to accomplish opinions, but also about putting out at the screen to cover the atrocities that they committed while doing so. and it's, it's a bit bizarre to see that on day 3 of the looks of flood operation, we saw how us and then the for on the okay, start something there are just carriers to the mediterranean as of like they have been planning a this,

but the palestinian resistance operation just brought it into effect earlier than it was expected. this is what everyone is talking about right now. they're trying to get here because they had a feeling that something is brewing. because for the past 3 years, we've been seeing that the palestinian resistance operations have an escalating, especially in the west bank and in parts of gauze as well. so this makes the world see that the so called the police, the self proclaimed police of the world who came to the helped to the age of its calling me in the heart of the middle east and made it very fast, made this decision without even going back to its own people, the people who elected them, they didn't have a choice, and that neither did the united nations as well. and we also how it was the united states of america that stopped the very dire, much needed a ceasefire, especially for the people of cause or at least to get in the necessary when to turn to eat. but they need at the moment because my friend,

before i started the show with the always speaking to my friends at gaza after i was thankful, the able to get some internet connections with them. and they start at the moment operations are being done. surgical operations are being done to the hospitals without anesthesia because they don't have the medicine anymore and it's being done on the floor because there is no space to do it. the more so it's b. i know what it is, but my wife, you'll never see that on the bbc or cnn will. yeah, of course not. okay, dimitri, what's really interesting. i thought the biden's trip was very bizarre. the bear hugging and all of that they have is just kind of creepy. okay. and is a re already pointed out. he's just reading from cards who wrote the cards, we don't know. but what's interesting is, is that, you know, you have the in the u. k. prime minister there, i think as we speak, the french president is coming, and it's almost if is, if netanyahu is giving them in a, in a putting them under. oh, you know, they're in front of some kind of grand jury. you're here now and you're gonna stick

with us, whatever happens, okay? and you're going to cover for us and you're going to tell your media to do that for us. that's what it looks like to be. it's very bizarre, dimitri, as well as was interesting, the board and twitter account before she came shortly before it came, proclaimed that he was coming to israel in a show of solidarity. i personally found that very difficult to believe at that point in time he had sent blinking, blinking it had what could only be described as a disastrous trip, perhaps formatted expectantly. he was being made to wait. busy night by the saudi monarch for a meeting that was supposed to happen. and in the evening, he was tongue lashed by the uh, the leader of egypt, publicly, which was an extraordinary event. and i think that he had sent a to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean biden, so that there was no need for him to come on top of the billions that the u. s. provides every year to this apartheid state to show solidarity. i think it came

because the monster that the united states has controlled or has created largely is now what is control. and if in fact to mandatory and supplies are not introduced into guys a very soon, there will be a level of death and suffering in this fall. really devastated on play. that will far surpass anything that we've seen, the horrors that we witnessed up until now. i was a neutral, but dimitry, i'm sorry to interrupt you. that's the plan though, isn't it? that's exactly what the plan is and that, and the western leaders are supposed to give cover to it. okay. that's i think this is all one mentioned on well the is really government's plan is definitely that i, that to some degree there, the western governments are prepared to accept that, but not of the sake of their own hides. and they see that the muslim 3rd world is exploding with complete justification. and so they want to, i think again, i don't have a hawk binding to the white house. i'm looking at looking at this from the outside,

trying to interpret what is going on. my sense of what is going on is that there is a certain level of panic because of the immense, wide spread anger in the air of world. and the muslim world about what is happening . there is a genocide occurring and gas it before the eyes of the world. and so biden, i believe probably came to israel not for a show. busy of solidarity, but to have a frank conversation with, with mister netanyahu, and explained to him that at some point in the not too distant future, they're going to have to allow to manager and age into gaza in order to prevent a complete and utter explosion. in this part of the world, and i don't know whether this state this stage is going to be possible for anybody to control the monster that the us government is created. i mean, we have the incredible spectacle of the is really do defense minister for cleaning . at the very outset of this offensive that all rules or dispensed with, that he was going to lift all restrictions on the the is really offensive on what

he referred to as human animals. the man was basically declare, so it is. all right, so essentially move on to right as real is exempt from international humanitarian law. this is what we're saying here, right explicitly. well, it's called the right so okay, let's go to right here. go ahead, right? the name of the what's going on, this is genocide. all right? and the difference is that you have not only russia and china, you're not only have the arab states you have you, uh, we're not going to tolerate at this time. this time, the balance of power is very different from all last times you have the, you have the re and president calling up the head of saudi arabia. so they say it was amazing. yes. and then you have the, i heard the shooting. asking is when it's changed, could you please, could you please gather a meeting here?

good. we need to all get together with your supervision and your input because this is a big deal. so if, if this is a stick, lindsey is tenzing is launch big time. there's going to be really some reaction that we had never seen before. we have the actually really is the visiting with the head of, as by law as well as i had a i'm us. so they're getting ready and then it goes should still. so this is it one more thing because nobody has mentioned this is a personal stake. goodness ok. netanyahu and up in jail as so good, jo, buys you ok if you lose this one. if you lose your grade, if you lose the election, well, whoever comes in could end up putting joe biden and hunter and some of their associates in jail. this is a big personal stake that needs to be mentioned and needs to be taken into account tomorrow. and we have one main before we go to the break, the bar one,

go ahead. different perspectives, we see despite the fact that we agree most of the things to present. but the perspective from here is that we are ready to give our lives. we already gave 17 of our lives from all people, 17 fighters, and find a sex 6 to billions on the water was occupied. palestine and i do believe that the carriers, the aircraft carriers are there to do as stop any counter attack from crystal law. and i don't think it's working because last night was the toughest, the night on the border between the non and time is fine and it was on fire. and i think that the coming days will be very, very decided whether or not you will see an open war in the region let specifically by his will lot my people, my country under the fire of israel again. but this time fire back will be happy. okay. well, i'm going to jump in here folks, we're good to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. power start in state, the

the new for monday. i'm not getting back to the stuff. yeah, i mean you're going to use the normal this fixed. you'll take just a month at $100.00. no, that's enough to 100. i lied to you on this, this guy suddenly. ok, now i need to be here. we need to get you started with us. us produce side is sick and one on the left. she's on the more you and you now i'm out of this because i cannot send enough to know if i still equal to what do you guys to, what do i equal to the so to show the source of the other cheek, you know, most of them with us and scolded, it's due for me quite a while. so who tional 0. what do you want to go

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easiness did not put up with the loss of freedom era. patriots had been fighting against french colonialism for decades until june easier gained independence in 1956. welcome back. across stock were all things are considered computer level to remind you were discussing palestine. the demetrius res, already mentioned that the, the united states has very hesitant to see more is that it promotes, come to an end. we have this current war against the people of gaza. and of course the, the war and ukraine, which they were to ample opportunities. the end of the united states said no, but they want this to continue on. and so if we look at, but at the same time, they never know how to end wars. okay. and so in ukraine it's

a stalemate. inevitably it'd be ukrainian government will fail, but what are the is really it's good to do with god. so i mean, other than genocide, push them into the see push them into the egypt. governance. have a mock mood, a boss, travel there for them on the back of it is really tank. i mean, what's the end game here, dimitri, as well there in game? i think it's the expulsion of the palestinian people from guys entirely this, this uh you know, raising to the ground of the northern part of guys or large parts of it, forcing people to move southward, which happens to be closer to the border of egypt. i think was a precursor to mass expulsion. that's the plan. but the egyptian government wants nothing to do with it. the arrow boiled will not tolerate the world outside of the urban muslim world. i think at this stage, particularly in other parts of the global south will not put up with this incredible monstrosity. and so this plan is going to fail. it is ultimately going

to fail. and the context, i think sure is very important, is real strength is always derived from its support by the united states. it receives currently $3800000000.00 a year in military aid. the us a sense, as i mentioned, to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean, politically, economically, militarily in every conceivable sense, the us, the super power. up until recently, the sole superpower has backed up, is really in every way. but the ukraine war has showed beyond a shadow over to the ukraine, is that the united states is a much diminished superpower, still a superpower, but not the old dominant, super power that it once was. and that will have impacts where it is real. i think the world sense is now the united states and its allies are weaker than they have ever been. and they have an opportunity finally to bring this massive, unspeakable injustice that we've seen in palestine to an end. and i think that this is what's, what's going to transpire in the days and weeks ahead. and we'll see this just in just just coming to an end in the not too distant future. what model you want to do

. you want to jump and go ahead, mar what? go ahead. yeah, i started seeing that in the i'm and i said everybody's in iraq when the has, will not iraq function the send in a bomber drones to the i said air base. i don't know if you have that in your western media, and today that just this morning, there was an attack on the clinical oil field where the, the american occupation soldiers are there also with bomber drones. so now your interest, so the united states of america are being directly targeted by the axis of resistance in the region. and this is a very big escalation against the presence of aircraft carriers and support defeats really entity. but again, at the end of the day, the main main people here, the me important function that we're talking about here is garza and we heard the opposite resistance saying that in each part of human you rock, you're running and security, i'm not saying. but in the event that these read, the entity actually starts an invasion examination against the gods that we're going to see a full scale war. but now i think they're going to start to shift their conditions

to elevate their conditions by saying if you do not allow human entering 8 to enter, then we will shift into another strategy. i think we have started to see that strategy in our, on our region. yeah. well morrow. and those 2 aircraft carriers, they're pretty big targets wouldn't be a think. i mean, that's, that may be tested here at one point. well, it may be tested, one might let me go to ray, ray in raleigh, all the usual voices, the usual performance in washington. this is all an opportunity. this is the opportunity of a sensory experience. go up to read what's popular with sod. but there's, this is a rhetoric that's coming out of these other places like washington right. well peter, it's, it should be lose, you know? yeah. as you know, people have the grass. but with the fact sheer, one very interesting thing not mentioned yet is that n b c a,

a challenge for in britain, they're not buying a that it was how much that destroyed all those people are bad hospital. i mean, this is amazing. there are that's being expressed in the most bains free media. that gives me some hope that people this time will say, well look, this is so obvious that it are ships to restricted sco how much paper, where football data we're going to have the right of access. so let's, let's head you out beds here and let's, let's make it so that we don't look really stupid as we have almost all well read, ray, this is kind of like the north stream pipeline. i guess we'll never know who did it . you know, they just me, they liked the rabbit whole everything. absolutely. dimitri, i'm glad that re mentioned nbc, because of 3 era voices on nbc have been suddenly silenced. people that had experience of the middle east in dogs that i guess they've been furloughed

. ok. i mean, this is just what the length that they go to to and dismissing form the public's dimitry. well that certainly, and we're talking here about mesquite site and the 3 personality that gives you the amount of people and somebody that i, i have contempt for basically what he should have a right to speak every one to the right complete to spend it. and frankly, i share here contempt for mister a son, although he has been relatively good on the question of palestine. he's compromise in any respects and they've removed him from the air. and it's not us. but 1st of all, that's indicative of the ramping is land before the. ready yeah, which continues to prevail in the western establishment, but they've gone well beyond the, i mean you had the, the, the, the, the home secretary in the united kingdom proclaiming, uh, i think his name is braverman that, uh, burying the palestinians leg could potentially be a criminal offense under gk law. uh the so called champion the freedom uh,

in germany. you've seen people get a water cannon of women were into jobs. you know, a accosted by the police, take it away simply because they're waving the palestinians leg. what i find a pauline as somebody who spent most of his life in the west is that the government, the claim to represent us are telling the non western world that they are a bulwark, a guest authoritarianism. but their current behavior is the pay them the head board hearing as well. marley, you know, we, we had, we had net now hang on here, and we had netanyahu, i don't know if it was with biden or, or whatever. it doesn't matter that all these western leaders are basically the same in my mind. you know that they, they, i'm also the nazis of the new nazis. oh, it was with all those to show. so he was there. but the united states is backing nazis. a new crane. i mean, it's really quite interesting. i mean there are real lots that use. we saw one in canada a few weeks ago. okay. and but you know, again,

this labeling here go ahead. mar, one of the meeting. that is not illegal to austin in florida, but oh, okay, what actually its way students lives in the west anymore but its way. okay. to wave a nazi as mark and the support nazis at to see not the personnel and the canadian parliament, or at least to see a insurgencies coming from a fighter is coming from europe coming from the west, wearing the nazi patch on their shoulders. that's ok. that's very okay, and it's not ok to support thomas by or to at least have been promising a narrative to tell the truth about what's going on and sounds like that doesn't really surprise us, because if you look at how they've been dealing with our as part of the world media wise, we see that over the past 4 years, they have taken us over from satellites. they have taken our websites down, they have taken our youtube channels down, they have taken our social media accounts down and they don't allow us to speak. i

know these platforms are western platforms, but now they go on and they take away their own reporters just because they support the palestinian cause or at least want to try and tell the story or from the palace the need to sign. i mean, our sounds here in the we most are on a, i saw me, i don't know the reuters for thought river and reuters itself wouldn't allow its own. so in decency of saying, oh count i saw and they wouldn't find it in their statement. this is beyond words, but this is reality. they control the air, meaning they control the frequency of the, the, the, the, the people use for a, for their narrative. and now they want to show anyone else in their home and not allowing them to wave the flag by not allowing them to support thomas time, even by not allowing them to save the time from the river to the sea. this would be a, an offensive act in the united kingdom, and that's beyond words. and also we have a lot of friends in canada and united states of america that are suffering from

oppression from the regimes in those countries. because they opened, disappointed about a son or a p is because they are from the region they have. well, the marble marwood, there are there are palestinian americans in gaza. what is what is, what is biden doing for them? okay. i mean, i so i suppose if they were waving a ukrainian flag, they might get some help here. re you want to jump in, go ahead. yeah, i just wanted to point out how is sent it to how are you good, how naive political hacks like corps of germany are arriving in tell of a on a roost. wafaa wayne was there comes to drumming cross on what which is at all and german tanks. it evaded the soviet union way back when. okay, now how does nobody ever the sense of history here? the answer is no. they know what they're going to learn

a lot of history and the next couple of weeks. yes and, but unfortunately when i've looked at them are what, and i look at dimitri m, i worry that that war is going to come to, to their part of the world to meet when you have one minute left. go ahead, finish it off to look. i know it's very difficult right now for those of us who are and i think the vast majority of people are very concerned about the future of the palestinian people. but i, if you look at the tectonic ships which we had talked about, which are happening in the world today, and the reaction we're seeing both inside and outside the west to this genocide. i'm actually quite hopeful for the future of the house to post it. people there is much suffering to come sadly and tragically. but i do believe that the end of this apartheid regime is at hand. and it's just a question of time now before it finally comes to immersive land. well, a, the, i, i, i, the, well, i think right, really set it up really well. this is not the same world that we lived in 20 years

ago. and all of your sophisticated military trained kids are not going to change the course. the arc of history as it's being played out here, i want to thank my guess and be rude and in raleigh. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. remember, press stop, rules the the the need for a monday. i'm not getting bundled with stuff. i'm either going to use the motor fixture. take garcia, i'm not the 100. no,

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known in vietnam, the vietnam war loss did for almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any time we have now. and then you don't see it. now. what is all i'm empty? hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. i got the american soldiers murdered resistors mercilessly burned down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals and lee by all right, did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did and on the the enemy's veterans ready to forgive? yes, yes. yes. that's the way to

the 8 people are reportedly killed in dozens injured. and it is really strike on the oldest freak orthodox church and gaza, where people were seeking safety again in the name of self defense, israel is seeking to justify what would amount to ethnic cleansing a un official warrens. israel could be committing genocide under the fall, go blue, or as the humanitarian crisis escalates and gaza with around 1000000 people all ready to display. this is the families of those kidnaps 2 guys. started as a soldier. if he gets hungry fast to big protests, people come here. 247, up to 200 people are reportedly b.