or hey, and more, you know, it's helping you are in fact, given the green light for israel to commit to genocide what crimes and crimes against humanity you found us as american citizens. you failed us as philistines and you failed the world's community abroad. washington doesn't feel that citizens are safe anymore while we're even starting to see the sand and the state department itself, hopefully to the core of my soul that the responses or at least taking and with the american support by full, that responds and for the state just quoted the occupation, let me lead to more and deepest sufferings about the is really and the palestinian people and is not in the long term american interest. diplomacy is supposed to build bridges, but america's foreign policy is only burning them down. perhaps it's time for washington to rethink the way it treats the rest of the world. we have thoughts on this from international relations expert, donovan williams, and the international secretary of a south african trade union been gone. he must do cool. we must understand that the

u. s, economies based on the military, industrial complex the pitfall. so the military industrial complex already is pushy for all the way in different parts of the what. so it benefits from the is foundation or that's why the west destination says buyer uh, in the occupation and i bought a date and end of quarter. that is, the more we will not be attending that because otherwise, immediately it does sort of contracts with newton starting to business. but do you know if it's saved from the laptop and it's done the destruction? and now the companies that are building a u. s. companies, so it's business, but it's, it's a, it's how computers in wifes, general experience. it's in different parts of the way it should not be. and that's if she needs me to use the united states have sidelines or countries from

intervening for peace, particularly in palestine and israel. the not more than just not an honest broker. they, i have no intention for peace because as i said, they work in concert and for peace in the middle east. the main meta, the central massive remains, these variety, palestinian, or the oppression of is wrong on palestine. it is more than korea we saw, fitted in by the on these ways. supposedly to me for jordan, supposedly to meet with the palestinian authority and so forth. we saw that while he was on his way, both jordan and the palestinian authority said no the cost of each with the united states. i think that's a clear indication president biden by, but you'll also be telling me the security council is not interested in the scenes . fire is not interested in stopping the key, the killing of innocent civilians,

children and women and old persons and disable persons. can you call us at and that's all for now, but coming up a vital discussion on the israel palestine conflict and the us as role in it on cross ok. thanks for joining. we'll see you back soon. the a beautiful sun soaked to the vineyards nestled among some breast, picking the rolling hills as a gentle breeze comes off of the surrounding sea comic the imagery of french one country. but this is not france. we are in a coupon at russia on the black sea where recently they've got the serious about making some world class one the

. the hello and welcome to cross side were all things are considered. i am peter lavelle . what those jo biden's bizarre visit to israel tell us the green light of land invasion of gaza was a deal made to allowed a deliveries from egypt essentially does the bye, didn't ministration have a strategy? in the meantime, palestinians and gods are, are dying as record numbers, the processing policy. and i'm joined by my guess to me pretty lot scott, us and they wrote is a lawyer. and if a freelance journalist also and they wrote we him are what i'll spin. she is a assistant professor at the lebanese international university and political commentator and in raleigh, we cross the re, mcgovern. he is a former c, i a analyst. all right,

cross talk roles and effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, right. if i go to you 1st in raleigh and, and looking at politicians in israel and then this whole train upon the western politicians, making their homage to jerusalem. i can't i, i have this feeling that i have this echo in my head. this is all the same rhetoric from 911. this is the, the global war on terrorism all over again. and we know how bad ended on and on top of it, everyone, george w bush. he has been rehabilitated completely and without any push back whatsoever. so i wanted to start with the, the larger picture, re what is going on here, and then we'll get a dig deeper, obviously went and the price is going on and policy go ahead, right. of the biggest thing, theater is what the old soviets used to call a correlation of forces. now, over the last 20 years, the correlation of forces has had a tech tonic shift. and that was a power that the united nation is yesterday when the us had to veto

a cease fire resolution and a pro heather should against what the israelis for doing, just placing people because a and it was the only only know vote that as big. so what's going on here? well, i don't think biden is being well advised. a surprise, surprise. i don't think he knows what he's doing. i don't know who's writing his note cards. when he says, as he did on the plane, you know, i don't understand why people would believe this rarely version of what happens there are, there are. so, i mean, oh, maybe it was, maybe it was unintended. i mean, give me a break. so what i'm saying here is the correlation of forces has changed as the multi paula world. it's a bipolar world. it's the united states, and is vito, it goes the rest of the world, you know, mar. well, one of the things that this administration is known for is the rules based order.

we hear that all the time. well, there's no such thing as a room space order. now if israel is not held to account for what it's doing and they don't want us to hold israel to account, go ahead and bear with or not only they don't want us to hold israel to accounts. they don't even want us to talk about the calamity and the atrocities that is being suffocated and suffered and being put as a burden for a lifetime. i guess people have found a spot, especially in gaza. i mean, they don't want us even to report about the massacres, but these really entity commit to the last of which is the baptist hospital, which took more than 1200. might be cutting women in general, majorly it women and children. it's not only about and letting israel do what it can and what it should, the eyes of the west against the need to accomplish opinions, but also about putting out a screen to cover the atrocities that they committed while doing so. and it's, it's a bit bizarre to see that on day 3 of the looks of flood operation,

we saw how the west and then the for on the okay start something they're, they're good carriers to the mediterranean as of like they have been planning a this, but the palestinian resistance operation just brought it into effect earlier than it was expected. this is what everyone is talking about right now. they're trying to get here because they had a feeling that something is brewing. because for the past 3 years, we've been seeing that the palestinian resistance operations have been escalating, especially in the west bank and in parts of gauze as well. so this makes the world see that the so called the police, the self proclaimed police of the world who came to the health to the age of its calling me in the heart of the middle east and made it very fast, made this decision without even going back to its own people, the people who elected them, they didn't have a choice and that neither did the united nations as well. and we also how it was the united states of america, but stopped the very dire, much needed a ceasefire,

especially for the people of cause or at least to get in the necessary many turn to eat. but they need at the moment because my friend, before i started the show, the always speaking to my friends at gaza after i was thankful, the able to get some internet connections with them. and they start at the moment operations are being done. surgical operations are being done to the hospitals without anesthesia because they don't have the medicine anymore and it's being done on the floor because there's no space to do it. the more so it's be, i know whether it's bad, but tomorrow you'll never see that on the bbc or cnn will. yeah, of course not. okay. do me 3, what's really interesting. i thought the biden's trip was very bizarre. the bear hugging and all of that they have is just kind of creepy. ok. and is a re already pointed out. he's just reading from cards who wrote the cards, we don't know. but what's interesting is that, you know, you have the in the u. k prime minister there, i think as we speak, the french president is coming and it's almost if is,

if netanyahu is giving them in a, in a putting them under. oh, you know, they're in front of some kind of grand jury. you're here now and you're gonna stick with us, whatever happens, okay? and you're going to cover for us and you're going to tell your media to do that for us. that's what it looks like to be. it's very bizarre, dimitri, as well as was interesting this board and twitter account before she came shortly before it came, proclaimed that he was coming to israel in a show of solidarity. i personally found that very difficult to believe at that point in time he had sent blinking, blinking it had what could only be described as a disastrous trip, perhaps formatted expectantly. he was being made to wait. busy night by the saudi monarch for a meeting that was supposed to happen to 2 in the evening. he was turning last by the uh, the leader of egypt, publicly, which was an extraordinary event. yeah, i think that he had sent to, to aircraft carriers for the eastern mediterranean,

pardon. uh, so there was no need for him to come on top of the billions that the u. s. provides every year to this apartheid state to show solidarity. i think he came because the monster that the united states has controlled or has created largely, is now out of control. and if in fact to mandatory and supplies are not introduced into guys a very soon, there will be a level of death and suffering in this fall. really devastated on play. that will far surpass anything that we've seen, the horrors that we've witnessed up until now. i was a neutral, but dimitry. i'm sorry to interrupt you. that's the plan though, isn't it? that's exactly what the plan is. and that, and the and western leaders are supposed to give cover to it. okay. that's, i think this is all when mentioned, oh, as well the as really government's plan is definitely that i that to some degree there, the western governments are prepared to accept that. but not at the sake of their own hides, and they see that the muslim 3rd world is exploding with complete justification.

and so they want to, i think again, i don't have a hot binding to the white house. i'm looking at looking at this from the outside, trying to interpret what is going on. my sense of what is going on is that there is a certain level of panic because of the immense, wide spread anger in the air of world. and the muslim world about what is happening, there is a genocide occurring in cancer before the eyes of the world. and so biden, i believe, probably came to israel, not for a show of solidarity, but to have a frank conversation with, with mister netanyahu, and explain to him that at some point in the not too distant future, they're going to have to allow to manager in a into gaza, in order to prevent the complete and utter explosion in this part of the world. and i don't know whether at this stage stage it's going to be possible for anybody to control the monster that the us government is created. i mean we had the incredible spectacle of the is really the defense minister for. ringback me at the very outset

of this offensive that all rules or dispensed with, that he was going to lift all restrictions on the the is really offensive on what he referred to as human animals. the man was basically declare, so it is, it works. all right, so essentially move on to right as real is exempt from international humanitarian law. this is what we're saying here, right explicitly. well, it's called the x. okay, let's go to right here. go ahead, write the name of the what's going on. this is genocide. all right, and the difference is that you have not only russian and trying to, you're not only have the arab states you have you. um, we're not going to tolerate at this time. this time, the balance of power is very different from all last times you have the, you have the re and president calling up the head of saudi arabia. so they say it was amazing. yes. and then you have the,

i heard the shooting. asking is ministers, could you please, could you please gather a meeting here? go reading the all good together with your supervision and your input because there's a big deal. so if, if this is a stick, lindsey is tenzing is launch been time. there's going to be really some reaction that we had never seen before. we have actually rainy is the visiting with the head of, as by law, as well as i had a mas so they're getting ready and then it goes to it still. so this, i'll just say one more thing because nobody has mentioned this is a personal stake. goodness ok, that 10 yahoo and up in jail as so good, jo, buys you ok if you lose this one. if you lose your grade, if you lose the election, well, whoever comes in could end up putting joe biden and hunter and some of their associates

in jail. this is a big personal stake that needs to be mentioned and needs to be taken into account tomorrow. and we have one minute before we go to the break, how far, what go ahead. different perspectives, we see despite the fact that we agree most of the things to present. but the perspective from here is that we are ready to give our lives. we already gave 17 of our lives from our people, 17 fighters, and find a sex 6 dominions on the border with occupying the sign. and i do believe that the carriers, the aircraft carriers are there to stop any counter attack from his blah. and i don't think it's working because last night was the toughest, the night on the border between live and on and time is fine and it was on fire. and i think that the coming days will be very, very decided whether or not you will see an open war and the region let specifically by his will lot my people, my country under the fire of israel again. but this time fire back will be happy. okay. well, i'm going to jump in here folks, we're going to go to

a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state the the the

the welcome x across ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. true mind you were discussing how us not the demitria, you know, raise already mentioned it. the in the united states has very hesitant to see more is that it promotes come to an end. we have this of the current war against the people of gaza. and of course the, the war and ukraine, which there were 2 ample opportunities to end. the united states said no, but they want this to continue on. and so if we look at, but at the same time, they never know how to end wars, okay. and it's so and ukraine, it's a stalemate. inevitably, ukrainian government will fail, but what it is really is good to do with casa, i mean, other than genocide, push them into the see, push them into the egypt. governance, have a mock mood,

a boss, travel there for them on the back of it is really tank. i mean, what's the end game here, dimitri, as well there in game? i think it's the expulsion of the palestinian people from guys entirely this, this uh you know, raising to the ground of the northern part of guys or large parts of it, forcing people to move southward, which happens to be closer to the border of egypt. i think was a precursor to mass expulsion. that's the plan. but the egyptian government wants nothing to do with it. the airport world will not tolerate it. the world outside of the urban muslim world, i think at this stage, particularly in other parts of the global south will not put up with this incredible monstrosity. and so this plan is going to fail. it is ultimately going to fail and the context, i think sure is very important, is real strength is always derived from its support by the united states. it receives currently $3800000000.00 a year in military aid. the us a sense,

as i mentioned, to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean, politically, economically, militarily in every conceivable sense, the us, the super power. up until recently, the sole superpower has backed up, is really in every way. but the ukraine war has showed beyond a shadow over to the ukraine, is that the united states is a much diminished superpower, still a superpower, but not the old dominant, super power that it once was. and that will have impacts where it is real. i think the world sense is now the united states and its allies are weaker than they have ever been. and they have an opportunity finally to bring this massive, unspeakable injustice that we've seen in palestine to an end. and i think that this is what's, what's going to transpire in the days and weeks ahead. and we'll see this just in just just coming to an end in the not too distant future to morrow. and you want us to do. you want to jump and go ahead, mar, what? go ahead. yeah. started seeing that in the us of everybody's in iraq when the has, will not iraq function the send in

a bomber drones to the i know i said air base. i don't know if you have that in your western media, and today that just this morning, there was an attack on the clinical oil field where the, the american occupation soldiers are there also with bomber drones. so now your interest, so the united states of america are being directly targeted by the axis of resistance in the region. and this is a very big escalation against the presence of aircraft carriers and support defeats really entity. but again, at the end of the day, the main main people here, the main important functions that we're talking about here is garza and we heard the axes of resistance saying that in each part of yep. and you rock, you're running and security, i'm not saying. but in the event that these read, the entity actually starts an invasion, a ground invasion against the gods that we're going to see a full scale war. but now i think they're going to start to shift their conditions to elevate their conditions by saying if you do not allow human entering 8 to enter, then we will shift into another strategy. i think we have started to see that

strategy and our on our region. yeah. will model are those 2 aircraft carriers? they're pretty big targets wouldn't be a think. i mean that's, that may be tested here at one point. well, it may be tested, one might let me go to ray, ray in raleigh, all the usual voices, the usual performance in washington. this is all an opportunity. this is the opportunity of a sudden jury go after a wed what's topple of sod. but this, this is a rhetoric is coming out of these other places like washington. right. well, peter, it's is delusional. yeah. as you know, people have to grasp. but with the fact sheer, one very interesting thing not mentioned yet is that n b c a, a challenge for in britain, they're not buying uh that it was uh how much that destroyed all those people at

that hospital. i mean, this is amazing. there are that's being expressed in the most, the bane's free media. that gives me some hope that people this time will say, well look, okay, this is so obvious that it are ships to restrict how much people last football data . we're going to have the right of access. so let's, let's head you out beds here and let's, let's make it so that we don't look really stupid as we have almost all well read, ray, this is kind of like the north stream pipeline. i guess we'll never know who did it, you know, they just me, they liked the rabbit whole everything. absolutely. dimitri, i'm glad that re mentioned nbc, because of 3 era voices on nbc have been suddenly silenced. people that had experience of the middle east in dogs that i guess they've been furloughed . ok. i mean, this is just what the length that they go to to and dismissing form the public dimitry. well that's certainly and we're talking here about mesquite site and the 3

personality that gives you the amount of safety and somebody that i, i have contempt for basically what he should have a right to speak. every one should have the right complete to spend it. and frankly, i share here contempt for mister a son, although he has been relatively good on the question of palestine. use compromise in any respects and they've removed him from the air. and it's not just the 1st of all that's indicative of the ramping is land before the. ready yeah, which continues to prevail in the western establishment, but they've gone well beyond that. i mean you had the, the, the, the, the home secretary in the united kingdom proclaiming, uh, i think his name is braverman. that bearing the palestinians leg could potentially be a criminal offense. under gk law, the so called champion the freedom and in germany you've seen people get a water cannon of women where into jobs you know, a. ringback accosted by the police,

take it away simply because they're waving the palestinians. like what i find a pauline as somebody who spent most of his life in the west is that the government, the claim to represent us or telling the non western world that they are a bulwark, a guess, authoritarianism, but their current behavior is the pay them. you have to oral care and as of what morrow and you know we, we had, we had nothing. yeah. hang on here. no, we had netanyahu. i don't know if it was with bide, nor, or whatever it does, it matters all these western leaders are basically the same in my mind. you know that they, they have also the nazis or the new nazis. oh, it was with all those to show. so he was there, but the united states is backing nazi. it's a new crane. i mean, it's really quite interesting. i mean there are real lots that use. we saw one in canada a few weeks ago. okay. and but you know, again, this labeling here, go ahead, mar, one, in the meeting. that is not illegal to austin in florida, but oh okay,

what actually it was in his life in the west anymore. but it's way ok to waive a nazi. it's mark and the support nazis at to see not the personnel of the canadian parliament, or at least to see a insurgencies coming from a fighter is coming from europe coming from the west, wearing the nazi patch on their shoulders. that's ok. that's very okay. and it's not ok to support thomas by or to at least have been promising a narrative to tell the truth about what's going on and found that doesn't really surprise us. because if we look at how they had been dealing with our as part of the world media wise, we see that over the past 4 years, they have taken us over from satellites. they have taken our websites down, they have taken our youtube channels down, they have taken our social media accounts down and they don't allow us to speak. i know these platforms are western platforms, but now they go on and they take away their own reporters just because they support the palestinian cause or at least want to try and tell the story or from the palace

the need to sign. i mean, our sounds here in the we most are on a, i saw me, i don't know the reuters for thought river and reuters itself wouldn't allow its own. so in decency of saying, oh count i saw and they wouldn't find it. and their statement, this is beyond words, but this is reality. they control the air, meaning they control the frequency of the, the, the, the, the people use for a, for their narrative. and now they want to show anyone else in their home and not allowing them to wave the flag by not allowing them to support thomas time, even by not allowing them to save a time from the river to the sea. this would be a, an offensive act in the united kingdom, and that's beyond words. and also we have a lot of friends in canada and united states of america that are suffering from oppression from the regimes in those countries. because they opened, disappointed about a son or a p is because they are from the region they have. well, the marble marwood, there are there are palestinian americans in gaza. what is what is,

what is biden doing for them? okay. i mean, i so i suppose that they were waving a ukrainian flag. they might get some help here. re you want to jump in, go ahead. yeah, i just wanted to point out how is sent it to how are you good, how naive political hacks like corps of germany are arriving in tell of a, a roost. wafaa wayne was their cousin to drumming cross on which is that all in german tanks. it is a to the soviet union way back when. okay, now how does nobody have any sense of history here? the answer is no, they don't, but they're going to learn a lot of history and the next couple of weeks. yes and, but unfortunately when i've looked at them are what, and i look at dimitri m, i worry that that war is going to come to,

to their part of the world to meet when you have one minute left. go ahead, finish it off a look. i know it's very difficult right now for those of us who are and i think the vast majority of people are very concerned about the future of the palestinian people. but i, if you look at the tectonic ships which we had talked about, which are happening in the world today, in the reaction we're seeing both inside and outside the west to this genocide. i'm actually quite hopeful for the future of the house to post it. people there is much suffering to come sadly and tragically. but i do believe that the end of this apartheid regime is at hand. and it's just a question of time now before it finally comes to immersive, when, well, a, the, i, i, i, i think ray really set it up really well. this is not the same world that we lived in 20 years ago. and all of your sophisticated military trinkets are not going to change the course the arc of history as it's being played out here. i want to think, my guess, and a root and in raleigh. and of course,

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