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foreign policy is only burning them down. perhaps it's time for washington to rethink the way it treats the rest of the world. meanwhile, us ministry basis has come under attack in both syria and do right on the sides where it hits by real kits and drones, but no serious injuries were reported separately in washington says an american navy destroyer shut down 2 missiles, apparently launch towards israel from yemen. for me, i saw me off cisco bennett, says these incidents points to i did not make a power struggle across them at least well, we are witnessing the increase drone attacks upon the united states naval vessels, precisely because the united states has given full uh, authority and its support behind is real in its current. so i would say genocide, operations against the palestinians, and this is inflamed, the surrounding muslim populations in syria, in yemen, interact in jordan, in egypt, in a raul, on the, in pakistan,
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all of the muslim nations in the middle east are now witnessing the united states is not a fair and honest broker for peace, but a one sided ally that israel has a green light to engage in crimes against humanity and war crimes. so as a result, this is generating a unified hostility from a variety of, of groups in syria, in yemen, attacking us forces with drones, uh, with, with all sorts of a symmetric weapon rate. so it's, it's without a doubt, a collab confederacy of different brooks in different areas, racks, area, and human. essentially seeing the us as, as a target and then um, aiding and abetting the, the crimes that is real is generating against palestine. so this is a response to the us policy. so those are the main stories this i'll do head over
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to oxy dot com or also so media pages from all the discounts on the back again of the some of the states have you want to thank you, the the hello and welcome to cross side where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . what those jo biden's bizarre visit to israel tell us the green light of land invasion of gauze. it was a deal made to allowed a deliveries from egypt essentially does the bye, didn't ministration have a strategy? in the meantime, palestinians and gods are, are dying as record numbers.
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the cross stuck in palestine. i'm joined by my guess for me pretty lot. scott, us in the room is a lawyer. and if a freelance journalist also in b route, we have our osman, she is a assistant professor at the lebanese international university and political commentator and in raleigh. we crossed the room, recovered. he is a former c. i a analyst. all right, cross talk roles and effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, right. if i go to you 1st in raleigh and, and looking at politicians in israel and then this whole train upon the western politicians, making their homage to jerusalem. i can't i, i have this feeling that i have this echo in my head. this is all the same rhetoric from 911. this is the, the global war on terrorism all over again. and we know how bad ended on and on top of it, everyone, george w bush. he has been rehabilitated completely and without any push back whatsoever.
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so i wanted to start with the, the larger picture, re what is going on here, and then we'll get to dig deeper. obviously went and the price is going on in palestine. go ahead, right? of the biggest thing, theater is what the old soviets used to call a correlation of forces. now, over the last 20 years, the correlation of forces has had a tech tonic shift. and that was a power that the united nations yesterday, when the us had to veto a ceasefire resolution. and a pro have issued against what the israelis were doing, just placing people in kaiser. and it was the only only no vote that as big. so what's going on here? well, i don't think biden is being well advised. a surprise, surprise. i don't think he knows what he's doing. i don't know who's writing his note cards. when he says, as he did on the plane, you know, uh, i don't understand why people would believe this rarely version of what happens
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there are there as well. i mean, oh, maybe it was. maybe it was unintended. i mean give me a break. so what i'm saying here is the correlation of forces has changed as the multi paula world. it's a bipolar world. it's the united states, and is vito, it goes to the rest of the world's, you know, mar. well, one of the things that this administration is known for is the rules based order. we hear that all the time. well, there's no such thing as a rule space order. now if israel is not held to account for what it's doing and they don't want us to hold israel to account, go ahead and bear with not only they don't want us to hold israel to account, they don't even want us to talk about the calamity and the atrocities that is being suffocated and suffered and being put as a burden for a lifetime. i guess people have found a spot, especially in gaza. i mean, they don't want us even to report about the massacres, but these really entity commit to the last of which is the baptist hospital,
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which took more than 1200. might be cutting women in general majorly and women and children. it's not only about and letting israel do what it can and what it should, the eyes of the west against the need to accomplish opinions, but also about putting out a screen to cover the atrocities that they committed while doing so. and it's, it's a bit bizarre to see that on day 3 of the looks of flood operation, we saw how the west and then the for on the okay start something they're, they're good carriers to the mediterranean as of like they have been planning a this, but the palestinian resistance operation just brought it into effect earlier than it was expected. this is what everyone is talking about right now. they're trying to get here because they had a feeling that something is brewing. because for the past 3 years, we've been seeing that the palestinian resistance operations have an escalating, especially in the west bank and in parts of gauze as well. so this makes the world
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see that the so called the police, the self proclaimed police of the world who came to the helped to the age of its calling me in the heart of the middle east and made it very fast, made this decision without even going back to its own people, the people who elected them, they didn't have a choice and that neither did the united nations as well. and we also how it was the i 6 of america that stopped the very dire, much needed a ceasefire, especially for the people of cause or at least to get in the necessary when to turn to eat that they need at the moment. because my friend, before i started the show, the always speaking to my friends and gaza after i was thankful, the able to get some internet connections with them and they start at the moment at operations are being done. surgical operations are being done to the hospitals without anesthesia because they don't have the medicine anymore and it's being done on the floor because there's no space to do it. the more so it's b. i know what it is, but my wife, you'll never see that on the bbc or cnn will. yeah,
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of course not. okay. do me 3, what's really interesting. i thought the biden's trip was very bizarre. the bear hugging and all of that they have is just kind of creepy. okay. and is a re already pointed out. he's just reading from cards who wrote the cards, we don't know. but what's interesting is, is that, you know, you have the in the u. k. prime minister there, i think as we speak, the french president is coming, and it's almost a if is if netanyahu is giving them in a, in a putting them under. oh, you know, they're in front of some kind of grand jury. you're here now and you're gonna stick with us, whatever happens, okay? and you're going to cover for us and you're going to tell your media to do that for us. that's what it looks like to be. it's very bizarre, dimitri, as well as was interesting, the board and the twitter account before she came shortly before it came, proclaimed that he was coming to israel in a show of solidarity. i personally found that very difficult to believe at that
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point in time. he had sent, blinking, blinking it had what could only be described as a disastrous trip, perhaps formatted expectantly. he was being made to wait. busy night by the saudi monarch for a meeting that was supposed to happen. and in the evening, he was tongue lashed by the uh, the leader of egypt, publicly, which was an extraordinary event. yeah, i think that he had sent a to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean, pardon, so that there was no need for him to come on top of the billions that the u. s. provides every year to this apartheid state to show solidarity. i think he came because the monster that the united states has controlled or has created largely, is now out of control. and if in fact to mandatory and supplies are not introduced into guys a very soon, there will be a level of death and suffering in this fall. really devastated on play. that will far surpass anything that we've seen, the horrors that we witnessed up until now. i was a neutral, but dimitry,
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i'm sorry to interrupt you. that's the plan though, isn't it? that's exactly what the plan is and that, and the and western leaders are supposed to give cover to it. okay. that's i think this is all one mentioned on or well the is really government's plan is definitely that i that to some degree there, the western governments are prepared to accept that, but not at the sake of their own hides. and they see that the muslim 3rd world is exploding with complete justification. and so they want to, i think again, i don't have a hot binding to the white house. i'm looking at looking at this from the south side trying to interpret what is going on. my sense of what is going on is that there is a certain level of panic because of the immense, wide spread anger and the air of world and the muslim world about what is happening . there is a genocide occurring in cancer before the eyes of the world. and so biden, i believe, probably came to israel, not for a show of solidarity, but to have a frank conversation with, with mister netanyahu,
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and explain to him that at some point in the not too distant future, they're going to have to allow to manager and age into gaza, in order to prevent the complete and utter explosion in this part of the world. and i don't know whether at this stage stage it's going to be possible for anybody to control the monster that the us government is created. i mean we had the incredible spectacle of these really didn't defense minister for. ringback me at the very outset of this offensive that all rules or dispensed with, that he was going to lift all restrictions on the the is really offensive on what he referred to as human animals. the man was basically declare, so it is. all right, so essentially move on to rate is real, is exempt from international humanitarian law. this is what we're saying here, right explicitly. well, it's called the right so okay, let's go to right here. go ahead, right? the name of the what's going on, this is genocide. alright. and the difference is that you have not only russia and
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china, you're not only have the arab states you have you. um, we're not going to tolerate at this time. this time, the balance of power is very different from all last times you have the, you have the re and president calling up the head of saudi arabia. so they say it was amazing. yes. and then you have the arab, the shooting asking is when it's changed, could you please, could you please gather a meeting here? good. we need to all get together with your supervision and your input because this is a big deal. so if, if this is a stick, lindsey is tenzing is launch big time. there's going to be really some reaction that we had never seen before. we have the actually really is the visiting with the head of as by law, as well as i had a mas so they're getting ready and then it goes, it's still so this,
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i'll just say one more thing because nobody has mentioned this is a personal stake goodness ok, that's in yahoo and up in jail as so good, jo, buys you ok if you lose this one. if you lose your grade, if you lose the election, well, whoever comes in could end up putting joe biden and hunter and some of their associates in jail. this is a big personal stake that needs to be mentioned and needs to be taken into account . tomorrow. i mean, we have one minute before we go to the break the bar, what go ahead. different perspectives. we see despite the fact that we agree most of the things to present. but the perspective from here is that we are ready to give our lives. we already gave 17 of our lives from our people, 17 fighters, and find a sex 6 to millions on the border was occupied, palestine and i do believe that the carriers, the aircraft carriers are there, do as stop any counter attack from crystal. and i don't think it's working because
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last night was the toughest, the night on the border between live and on and time is fine and it was on fire. and i think that the coming days will be very, very decides of whether or not you will see an open war in the region let specifically by his will lot my people, my country under the fire of israel again. but this time fire back will be happy. okay, well, i'm going to jump in here folks. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion power spot in the state. the . the
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total is the aggressor today i'm authorizes additional strong sanctions today. russian was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing, but i think the stitch of the seniors is pick on the only thing the most, the more in the world will shift for banning all in portion of russian oil and gas in energy suffering the price for another country. hope all's well. with the rest of the fed service involved, the little joe bites in imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the
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american economy. so there's a boomerang the of the welcome back across. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm curious about your mind you were discussing how us not the demitria, you know, raise already mentioned that the in the united states has very hesitant to see more is that it promotes come to an end. we have this of the current war against the people of gaza. and of course the, in the warren ukraine, which there were 2 ample opportunities to ended. united states said no, but they want this to continue on. and so if we look at, but at the same time, they never know how to end wars. okay. and so, and ukraine, it's a stalemate. inevitably,
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ukrainian government will fail. but what are the as railways going to do with gaza? i mean, other than genocide, push them into the c pushed them into the egypt governance. have a mock mood, a boss, travel there for them on the back of it is really tank. i mean, what's the end game here, dimitri, as well there in game? i think it's the expulsion of the palestinian people from guys entirely this, this uh you know, raising to the ground of the northern part of guys or large parts of it, forcing people to move southward, which happens to be closer to the border of egypt. i think was a precursor to mass expulsion. that's the plan. but the egyptian government wants nothing to do with it. the arrow boiled will not tolerate the world outside of the urban muslim world. i think at this stage, particularly in other parts of the global south will not put up with this incredible monstrosity. and so this plan is going to fail. it is ultimately going to fail. and the context, i think sure is very important,
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is real strength is always derived from its support by the united states. it receives currently $3800000000.00 a year in military aid. the us a sense, as i mentioned, to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean, politically, economically, militarily in every conceivable sense, the us, the super power. up until recently, the sole superpower has backed up, is really in every way. but the ukraine war has showed beyond a shadow, but of the ukraine is that the united states is a much diminished superpower, still a superpower, but not the old dominant, super power that it once was. and that will have impacts for it is real. i think the world sense is now the united states and its allies are weaker than they have ever been. and they have an opportunity finally to bring this massive, unspeakable injustice that we've seen in palestine to an end. and i think that this is what's, what's going to transpire in the days and weeks ahead. and we'll see this just in just just coming to an end in the not too distant future model you want us to do.
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you want to jump and go ahead. marble go ahead. yeah, i started seeing that in the i'm and i said everybody's in iraq when the has will not iraq function to send in a bomber drones to the i said air base. i don't know if you have that in your western media, and today that just this morning, there was an attack on the clinical oil field where the, the american occupation soldiers are there also with bomber drones. so now your interest, so the united states of america are being directly targeted by the axis of resistance in the region. and this is a very big escalation against the presence of aircraft carriers and support the beats really the entity. but again, at the end of the day, the main main people here, the main important functions that we're talking about here is garza and we heard the opposite resistance saying that in each part of yep. and you rock you're running and see here. yeah. and nothing on sitting, but in the event that these read, the entity actually starts an invasion examination against the gods that we're going to see a full scale war. but now i think they're going to start to shift their conditions to elevate their conditions by saying if you do not allow human entering 8 to enter,
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then we will shift into another strategy. i think we have started to see that strategy in our, on our region. yeah. will model are those 2 aircraft carriers? they're pretty big targets wouldn't be a think. i mean, that's, that may be tested here at one point while it may be tested, one might let me go to ray, ray in raleigh, all the usual voices, the usual performance in washington. this is all an opportunity. this is the opportunity of a sensory experience. go up to read what's topple with sod. this is a, this is a rhetoric that's coming out of these other places like washington right. well, peter, it is delusional. yeah. as you know, people have the grass, but with the fact sheer. one very interesting thing not mentioned yet is that n b c a, a challenge for in britain. they're not buying uh that it was uh
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how much that destroyed all those people at that hospital. i mean, this is amazing. there are that's being expressed in the most bains free media. that gives me some hope that people this time will say, well look, this is so obvious that it are ships to restricted sco how much paper last football data we're going to have the right of access. so let's, let's head you out beds here and let's, let's make it so that we don't look really stupid as we have almost all well read, ray, this is kind of like the north stream pipeline. i guess we'll never know who did it . you know, they just me, they liked the rabbit hole everything. absolutely. dimitri, i'm glad that re mentioned nbc, because of 3 era voices on nbc have been suddenly silenced. people that had experience of the middle east in dogs that i guess they've been furloughed . ok. i mean,
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this is just what the length that they go to to and dismissing form the public's dimitry. well that's certainly and we're talking here about mesquite site and the 3 personality that gives you the amount of safety and somebody that i, i have contempt for basically what he should have a right to speak every one to the right complete to spend it. and frankly, i share here contempt for mister a son, although he has been relatively good on the question of palestine. use compromise in any respects and they've removed him from the air. and it's not us. and 1st of all, that's indicative of the ramping is land before the. ready now, which continues to prevail in the western establishment, but they've gone well beyond that. i mean you had the, the, the, the, the home secretary in the united kingdom proclaiming, i think his name is braverman. that bearing the palestinians leg could potentially be a criminal offense under gk law. the so called champion the freedom. uh and in germany,
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you've seen people get a water cannon of women where into jobs, you know, accosted by the police, take it away simply because they're waving the palestinians leg. what i find a pauline as somebody who spent most of his life in the west is that the government, the claim to represent us or telling the non western world that they are a bulwark, a guess, authoritarianism. but their current behavior is the peer to meet a head board hearing as well. marley, you know, we, we had, we had nothing. yeah. hang on here. no, we had netanyahu. i don't know if it was with biden or, or whatever. it doesn't matter that all these western leaders are basically the same in my mind. you know that they, they have also the nazis or the new nazis. oh, it was with all those to show. so he was there. but the united states is backing nazi. it's a new crane. i mean, it's really quite interesting. i mean, there are real lots that use. we saw one in canada a few weeks ago. okay. and but you know, again, this labeling here go ahead, mar, one of
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the meeting. that is not illegal to austin. in florida, but oh, okay. to actually its way students lives in the west anymore. but its way. ok to waive a nazi it's mark and the support nazis at to see not the personnel of the canadian parliament or at least to see a insurgencies coming from a fighter is coming from europe coming from the west, swearing the nazi patch on their shoulders. that's ok. that's very okay, and it's not ok to support thomas by or to at least have been promising a narrative to tell the truth about what's going on in pounds. but that doesn't really surprise us, because if we look at how they've been dealing with our as part of the world media wise, we see that over the past 4 years, they have taken us over from satellites. they have taken our websites down, they have taken our youtube channels down, they have taken our social media accounts down and they don't allow us to speak. i know these platforms are western platforms,
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but now they go on and they take away their own reporters just because they support the palestinian cause or at least want to try and tell the story or from the palace the need to sign. i mean, our sounds here in the we most are on a, i saw me, i don't know the reuters for thought river and reuters itself wouldn't allow its own. so it can be some fee of saying, oh count i saw and they wouldn't mind if their statement. this is beyond words, but this is reality. they control the air, meaning they control the frequency of the, the, the, the, the people use for a, for their narrative. and now they want to show anyone else in their home and not allowing them to wave the flag by not allowing them to support thomas time, even by not allowing them to save a time from the river to the sea. this would be a, an offensive act in the united kingdom, and that's beyond words. and also we have a lot of friends in canada and united states of america that are suffering from oppression from the regimes in those countries. because they opened,
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disappointed about a son, or at least is because they are from the region they have. well we are, a lot of them are well, marwood, there are there are palestinian americans in gaza. what is, what is, what is biden doing for them? okay. i mean, i size a nose if they were waving a ukrainian flag, they might get some help here. re you want to jump in, go ahead. yeah, i just wanted to point out how is sent it to how are you good, how naive political hacks like chords of germany are arriving in tell of a on a roost. wafaa wayne was there, could you germany cross on what, which is at all and german tanks, it evaded the soviet union way back when. okay, now hello. there's nobody ever the sense of history here. the answer is no, they don't, but they're going to learn a lot of history and the next couple of weeks. yes and,
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but unfortunately when i've looked at them are what, and i look at dimitri m, i worry that that war is going to come to, to their part of the world to meet when you have one minute left. go ahead, finish it off to look. i know it's very difficult right now for those of us who are and i think the vast majority of people are very concerned about the future of the palestinian people. but i, if you look at the tectonic ships which we had talked about, which are happening in the world today, and the reaction we're seeing both inside and outside the west to this genocide. i'm actually quite hopeful for the future of the house to post it. people there is much suffering to come sadly and tragically. but i do believe that the end of this apartheid regime is at hand. and it's just a question of time now before it finally comes to immersive land. well, a, the, i get it and i, i, i think right, really set it up really well. this is not the same world that we lived in 20 years ago. and all of your sophisticated military trained kids are not going to change
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the course. the arc of history as it's being played out here, i want to thank my guess and be rude and in raleigh. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc you next time. remember, press stop rules the . the beautiful sun soaked vineyards nestled among some rest. picking the rolling hills as a gentle breeze comes off of the surrounding sea comic imagery of french one country . but this is not france. we are in a coupon at russia on the black sea, where recently they've got a serious about making some world class wants the
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notice of both, both the models you need to do both looks really a lot for the you not be last week on the 50 wallace, they need to be brought you pronounce for the for sure. the rest of the 1st phone number here the
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the 16 people are reportedly killed and dozens and jet afternoons. rarely, bomb hits, the oldest greek orthodox church and gaza. a civilians were sheltering from mass strikes. they've been showing every thing, even churches and most house was gone. so we relocate to the church that they showed us that the families of those kidnaps 2 guys started as a soldier if he could 10 very fast to big protests. people come here. 247 distorts and relatives of some of the 200 is very still believes to be held hostage by him. us to about moist on to secure their release. we want to find the bodies but that back to death then fall into the hands of from us.

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