was when they called the heinous crime committed by israeli occupation forces in the shelling of the hospital. joining me in the side of the capital of salmonella and sorry, according to our views, was the most influential political funded in the middle east in 2021. thank you so much solomon for coming on of this. so obviously very sad the time any update on the saudi response to what's happening in a week when which bite and then the british prime minister flew off to tel aviv to support that yahoo off to their voting against a ceasefire view and security council. yeah, thank you so much option. it's great to be back with you. it's actually, it's, i tried to do what we are witnessing right now, and there are no words that can explain the human suffering in front of everyone's eyes with regards to saudi arabia. definitely this how it is, and during this year alone, and before this goes, conflict initiated $21.00 strong statements against the practices of the far right

government. off of israel, they condemned, accelerate the illegal index stations. going to extend the west bank the, the back, the idea of kicking out some families from their homes, the pro vocations against the whole, the aesthetic sites and the killing of more than 200 students. and that was back so, so, and i was just before it goes on just this year and they explicitly the government, i'm sorry for the explicitly said that these practices with exploding the situation and endangered the peace process, which we are unfortunately witnessing right now. and, and as for the current, uh, saudi position decided official position right now. uh, with regards to that cuz the situation is primarily focusing a lot on the importance of the escalation of having a humanitarian assistance access and condemning and condemning the killing of civilians from all sides. and the complete projection of the force displayed the displacement plan. both of civilians and also definitely condemning the occupation

and the 2 states and tend to mentioned that the 2 state solution is the only way for peace. why does it, why does this is a lift aids? 2 guys are given obviously the impossibility of the roof of crossing. yeah. here's the thing, the saudis, under adoption. the other thing is how old voiced the concern about the idea of not having access to the humanitarian and the saudis have made it very clear along with the edge of sense. and the thing is that they would be bringing 8 to, to, to, to, to, to got so. but how can you bring a to does a since you are bombarding even even the, the, the place where you actually want to, to, to, back. but right now we have seen how the saudis have pushed americans. specifically, when secretary blinking came 3, all, they made it very clear that you have to, it's actually a pity that's we are trying our best to convince the americans to have access to

humanitarian 8. it's really a pity and it's going to be as painful in the u. s. a. parts definitely we have seen recently that they have lowered their, their status right now. they, the americans are actually more open with the idea of, of giving an 8th to, to, to the listing. and so that's a good development. but it's unfortunate that the came after a strong push from rewards and kyra, i mean you worked at at washington, you know how the americans think? i know that one state department official has already resigned from blinking state department george pool director of the political military affairs at the state department resigned with his bite and guides and strategy. why do you think they voted against a cease fire during an ongoing conflict where a 1000000 children are at risk of dying, of being killed? what's your understanding of, i mean, did as lots of people been killed yet? yeah, i suppose no one can deny the fact that the con to us foreign policy is literally

a disaster. it's most on impulses not on strategies. it's, is react to, and that's proactive. and, and as i said earlier, who have been mentioned to us to be reluctant to allowing access when payment is, are in a to be saved and bombard the posting and children and what all right, sorry you, you have monitored the saudi us relations for years. maybe decades, have you ever seen anything like this kind of behavior from washington in public? it is actually very interesting and surprising for the fact that the american democrats, they were the ones who claim to be champ, tuning the philistines, and they were the wasteful, were trying to solve the issue through the state solution. but when they came to test, we saw how they were completely biased. and this is very, very unfortunate and history will not forget these actions because we're not speaking off of more as we are speaking of civilians we are speaking of women and

children. we have one that's what 1000 people got killed by this brutal bombardment of the idea. it's very, very, very sad when we are witnessing right now. but let's keep the whole pipe. the americans are right now trying to rectify their trajectory by looking at things and naming things by their names. because that's going to be a big staying on the u. s. foreign policy forever. if they have really allowed this a bombardment to continue without having real access to humanitarian aid, you see some watching this program across the arab world in the islamic world may be wondering why you have any hopes left about this uh, the japanese own financial times. uh, this quoting and unnamed, a g 7 diplomat thing, we have definitely lost the battle in the global south of to the support for residents can ukraine, the proxy war in russia, and now the absolute military support for nothing. yahoo tequila leaves palestinian

civilians. why do you have these hopes still? i'm having hope because i believe in humanity at the end of the day. definitely, as i said earlier, the us foreign policy is a disaster. but that doesn't mean that these people who hold these policies are humans. they are humans and they need to come back to their mind and to see things and to call things by their names. and it's an absolute reduction isn't. if we only look at the 7th of october and talk about it without talking about the root cause of the 7 decades long conflict, and then we'll put it this way. the 7th of october plus 70 years occupation. and in other words, the rise of how much is in is right in the responsibility. it's an option. let me tell you of here on the bar rock in the form of lift that was already the prime minister. even brock. he was, he, he was once asked a what we'd do if he was a policy and in doing it, then you always tear. do you know what he exactly said?

they'll pay the said he was a public opinion citizen under it's in the house term. he would go and join that service group to fight back and i'm not making things up so people can watch my interview with they would brag. and he walked out of my interview and i explained to him that he a well they with the midwives off on last after all as, as we remember. but rather than your hopes of any kind of sense coming out of washington. do you don't think that the conference in b s and others have different hopes that there is a new world now emerging devoid of the declining power of the united states, learned west and europe's and presumably that was discussed when urgent sleep happens in the middle of the night the runs foreign minister and say, now mere july end flew to a jet or i think of just off of the hospital atrocity. i've never seen anything like it myself since covering this from the middle east during the 2nd intifada.

isn't i mean, what did you make of the fact it runs foreign minister flew in for this extraordinary meeting this week of the is that you always reference yeah. with the regards to iran, as you know, that we have had this kind of normalization. it doesn't mean that we have result of the issues we have with them. definitely. there are a lot of issues at stake and the unit one washington thought drove when they saw this happening. you know what happened in blinking said it'd be mostly, most of the problematic angle of that was because of the bulk or the broker was china and for the americans, they are super sensitive with regards to anything related to china. having diplomatic, strong relations tend to be a broker in both piece and, and can be seen as a pace maker in the middle east or anywhere else. so we understand that. but at the end of the day, we are going to take our decisions by ourselves to find a way through which we can actually, the price point of them is at least into atlanta for opportunity rather than blood

shit. and that does that mean we? saudis will be incompletes agreement for the uranium i don't think so. i don't think that's gonna even happen at any time soon, but we are trying to figure out a way through which we can actually coexist and to reduce the attention as much as yeah, i wasn't even talking about the sensitivities of a bricks in china that order around really because is it true and i do understand that it was true that the crown prince, mom had been someone just kept blinking waiting when he was flying everywhere, trying to presumably make terribly, to support the ledge of genocide and gaza. did it keeping wasted? so much thank you for ser, thank you so much for mentioning the word genocide because that's the way it should be described. and the fact that the, the saudis have been very vocal and it's very easy to tell them they are very disturbed with the way that us handled the whole thing. actually remember and is

really historian and a holocaust score. the russ sigo, he said a couple of days ago, a couple of days ago, he said that what's going on right now in goza is a textbook, a case of genocide, a textbook case of 10 sites, then some is really, is labeled him as so facing joe and if that's the case, then what about the remarks of the defense minister as wrote when he called god zones as human animals. after saying that, they definitely decided to pass the test that the water food, a fuel from guns that which has over 2000000 people, half of them are children. so some may argue that the only men come us, which is not true, he meant everyone. but let's, for the sake of argument, give them the benefit of the doubt and consider what they've said to be qual, leak, talking about has been, what about the president of israel's remarks when he said that? because then as citizens are also responsible because they didn't take how much out

in directly he is indicating that all civilians are legitimate targets. so may also argue, i'll go think the method and without that he said it's out of anger and he didn't mean and then that's also give them the benefit of the doubt. and what about the specimen of the i b f. when he said, we focus on destruction and not the accuracy for the sake of argument. let's also give them the benefit of the doubts because they are angry right now. so what about the free king? i b s actions for god sake. over the top, over $4000.00, the civilians got killed. half of them are children. like, what can we make about that? what can we, what can we say about that? 100 children gets killed every day. there is nothing more despicable. do you think that was what was behind the crime? pretty nice. a cover for such i only see this couldn't have happened, but this couldn't have happened without us military fund. nothing there is really government relies on the us. so is that why the crown prince, mom had been selling and kept blinking, waiting and well,

i mean over reason monthly is the look. i don't have a problem with the idea of then americans funding that is regulated with, with knowing that the israelis went and have actually existed without the american supports, even during the past horse. but at the end of the day, we want real peace between israel and arbel. and you cannot achieve that. it's so wishful thinking to achieve that without draining the swamp of terrorism, which although it can happen through the 2 state solution. because the only way to diffuse and to remove military group is to accept the fact that they are humans, human beings, besides, you will have been there and you have picked them from their houses on a different they're absolutely the right. i'm not speaking of what the palestinians think or what are the things or what the lessons think i'm speaking of the security council thing i didn't mention i'm speaking of the international community. every

one to say is that is right, isn't a few pi or so, where are the international laws? so my problem with the united states right now is that's how come you are. the one who owns always talk about of the international laws on how to abide by the rules. and when it comes to this specific issue, you only say, oh, it's complicated. so just some would say on many issues though, some of that, i'm sorry i'll, i'll stop you that more from the me least, the most influential political pundits in 2021. according to our muse. after this break, the, the international law has come home. not, i hopefully for a while by the task international law has been based on the balance of power and soft interest poway,

especially this balance of power. these are be out in the world into 19 ninety's. and so there was no one to balance to the american power the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to be living online. we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask a better. the answer is will be

the welcome back to going under brian, i'm still here with someone else. i'm sorry, the middle east, the most influential political pundits in 2021 according to our news. so on just before we went to the break, you were talking about the 2 states. i'll get home to that, maybe in a 2nd. but you know, in nature a nation propaganda media, they were talking about normalization between your kingdom of saudi arabia and israel, seen by the international community as committing war crimes at the moment. i mean, how can there even be any mutual defense treaty as was being discussed by saturday authorities and israel in september, we will what there was a mutual defense treaty with the united states as part of normalization, with his ro is that all bitten the dusk. now it's over, i would say i would say which have never ever even talk about the

possibility of normalization of the kind of time. if the israelis wanted to commit to more or less occurs in gaza. that's my personal opinion. i mean, custom to my own opinion look option. i am known for being pro america or set out date for so i'm, i've been an advocate for savvy is really a normalization for so long. and i still believe that it's the way it should be, because at the end of the day, we need to all or exist with each other. and i've also written an article in 2016 of the have that talks about the possibility of a 0 to be part of the big vision 2030 plan of february be by having exchange by having economic and commerce, etc. but what we are seeing and witnessing right now is unfortunately, is making things not almost hard, but almost impossible. so so,

so there must be some ways through which this escalation as top otherwise it's going to be wishful thinking to have the idea of having started way be for set . and the saudis have repeatedly said, that's the palestinians need to have a decent life. the palestinians writes the 2 state solution to our peace initiative . we've been talking about this for so long. and i said earlier, i would say it's a game we believe incomplete in the complete integration of as right in the middle east. but that cannot happen while you are depriving the rights of the palestinians of having so determination to have basically the twisted solution. what is the solution which i know is supported by russia, china only do emerging superpowers of this century. have you so might say that the way that the palestine is being cut to ribbons in recent is makes that just

a talking point. they need to have one statement is random palestinians. all living together in a country called palestine. israel has, i'm think you must have heard that argument before the 2 state solution is actually a chat. and you know, as regards your piece in the hill, what makes now so different to what happened to the palestinian women and children and civilians in 20 or 620 or 82010201120142018. 20192021. in gauze, we saw the slaughter, there was a different. yeah. and i would like to say that, don't look for my answers. don't look for the answers of postings or are ups. looks from look for the answers from whether it is really is or know for a fact that israel security will never ever be achieved without giving the palestinians their internationally recognized rights. and couple of them is self determination and ending the occupation. this is 101 in political and security studies. another important things to mention is that as,

as soon as the talk has always been about how most in a way that's with somehow side line, the id of the westbank and side line, the grievances of posting is inside line the, the 160 children that's how are in prison is right right now below 12 years old. let's not forget the time us has always been secretly chaired by the is really secure with the upper office. why? because they were happy to see power. steering is divided. they play the role in that device. according to the former us senator, one poll is really played a short side of game by supporting this device. thinking differently that this public opinion, a device called is more benefits for them. and that's it. will that make the 2 state solution to evaporate and they didn't know that it was backfire at them at the scale? so if there is one thing i would like to say, or like an advice to the israelis, there's one advice that was gift his right is it would be,

don't you ever use your current outrage on anger? and the temporary global popular supports or the western popular supports to lose your minds and wreak havoc and commit more massacres. this will result in more strategic losses. for israel, it's time to reflect an actress possibly and to weigh your options. logically, not emotionally. the lives of fault, innocent people should be saved, disregarding their estimates, the keys and religions, and the idea of a scorched earth policy with backfire. i to greatly and as we know, 4 out of pipe is really is thinking it's in the whole was the issue according to appall conducted by an israeli university. and lastly, the train of peace. since you asked earlier about normalization. i think the train of peace in the middle east has a temporary stop only. okay, i'm trying to be optimistic here. how does the temper stop normally that needs some kind of maintenance, but i would say to the israeli is done to blow up the train altogether. the train of faith needs to go forward. so as road can be integrated in the middle east,

in the right way, you can not deprive the posting is a right p, o. like or the, the, the legitimate government of, of, of palestine has been extending the olive branch and fort for the last 30 years since they committed themselves to me in violets is really, is picked that's, that's really is pickets. so absolutely. that's how much weight you want us to do it. that's why that's why i say, yeah, but that's why i say, how much on the far right government to visit, right. i would say it's are 2 sides of the same coin. how much wants to eliminate as or as a government altogether is right. it wants to eliminate senior state altogether. so where is the difference that's that's yeah, that's we're which of course the israeli government say that not blowing up any trains that just uh, doing exactly what they should be doing. that's what is real keeps saying. and as for many people that we can see behind the tea, a guys in ramallah,

they would say the about a city authority has done the job of dividing bellas indians as the popularity of resistance groups has boomed in recent decades at the failure of the as you call it legitimate, i should say, on elected government in ramallah. okay. if lots of people in saudi arabia thinking like you are, and people in the government, saudi arabia, maybe. what do you expect from the united states in terms of opposition to the saudi position? at already with going to see the weaponized ation of human rights, which i'm sure you're very familiar with in nato nation propaganda media. but they also have warships in gaza that they're deploying all these troops just and they've fairly said it's not against the guys or government. they're doing this for a inside the ravia prepared to be threatened as the united states, some people say declining and acting like a dying animal is its empire. declines. is saudi arabia prepared for what we us has

in store for saudi arabia, if it continues to disobey orders. here's the thing. i can't speak of the saudi government. sure. what i can say is the following, that are we upsets of the way that us handled the whole thing? absolutely, yes. are we upset of that? of genocide and murderous by the f right though? absolutely. yes. are we trying our best to get the wall to get back to with sensors? yes, we have trying to do so how things will develop, i don't know, but based on the reports with regards to the u. s. deployment i think the us with lots to get into the, the missy situation and right now, but they are there just to deter hezbollah on the, in the run in general. so it's just mostly like a symbolic kind of a get away with it or the wait a minute. so in recent years, what we seen in saudi arabia refusing the abraham accords as a signed, they do

a deal through china with iran. they do a deal with syria, they refused to increase oil production as big as they were told by joe biden. i mean, how many things do you think that you're a big can do against what the us sees? it's interest presumably that, and the, obviously he's against israel's interest without some kind of action from nato nations, against saudi arabia, saudi arabia, clearly this did not simple the united states, v drawing of the seas for un security council resolution this way. yeah, i think we should not go to have this kind of hyperbolic kind of expectations that things will go completely to pictures on tv screens are more than hyperbolic, some would say, no, no, i'm speaking about saudi us relations. i'm not speaking about the situation and goes in politics, you need to work with your partners. let's not forget the united states is i will

always remain our strongest security partner. we should not just sidelined that. does that mean we are incomplete, incomplete agreement with the way they conduct their policies? absolutely not. but what i'm hoping to see, and i think that would happen. the us will somehow rectify its trajectory and get back to its sensors and to deal with the situation without having this kind of biased position. that's actually the human eyes, the palestinians because at the end of the day, but as the, the us doesn't want to be in confrontation with the whole most the month. it's nothing. it's the best interest. it's not in the best interest of the policy makers of the united states because of the end of the day. you don't want to repeat the same mistakes that you have done through invading iraq and afghanistan. and the us as to a thinking and contemplating about all the consequences, consequences that happened at through that time. so i think the united states is trying its best right now to show to the israelis that we are on your side. but at

the same time, i almost, i would say, believe that the us will pick this time and push the israelis to find a ways to which they can initiate or to reactivate the piece a talk with regards to it. well, just finding a briefly, you expect saudi arabia to continue forging good relationships with moscow and badging as a valid enemies of the united states government and security services according to what we hear from washington savvy. and we will continue to be good friends of china and russia. absolutely, sorry. there is a friend with any nation super powers or like medium sized countries or whatever. so right. be a has the absolute sovereignty to multiply its relations with everyone. and the russian government has been active through the security council to draft resolutions to basically ask for the escalation and opening access to the military

and support. so unfortunately, that's was rejected by the us, but you can for us. this will, as i said, we'll, we'll, we'll have us paying on the 3 countries moral history. but does that mean we're going to be on one sides against the other? i don't think so because that's not the the way started rate be i conducted to business that every day is there to be a stabilizer to be in the middle and to not take sides when it comes to this kind of superpower kind of a struggle at the end of the day, the russians, we are continuing our relations with them. the same goes with the chinese. we have big a projects. that's our hands of us. so definitely i think uh the saudis, we should not think for a 2nd. the facilities will be in a position to take a slides in this kind of multi polar word that is actually on the right. so on right now, more than any type of testing,

but us position with regards to does that right now, more than any time we can see the benefits of multi polarity, rather than that, you any priority that is, that has been lived by the united states. so i'm an island, sorry, thank you. thank. lots of of the show will be back on monday, which will i'm inside you petroleum administer senior advisor, doctor mom, and else up on who claims the latest nature of nation war crimes, from gaza to ukraine. signal the end of a washington dominated world until then keep in touch, why will i social media or if it's not the sense that in your country and had to channel going underground tv on rumble dot com junction you and old episodes of going undergrad? see him under the oh the the people on, on the, on uh, getting bundled with stuff. yeah. i mean,

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