wind inside over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder lion likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. some of the living will not have very good propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better the answer is, will be the nation or tendency and welcome back to going underground real ga, single around the world from the u. e. m. is global outraged at the ongoing

violence in the middle east for a long dr. joint view, a rush or a resolution of the un security council for a gaza sci fi was opposed by france, japan, britain, in the usa. the u. e. of course is also the center of world attention because of next month's comp 28 climate conference with geo political, real configurations. as regards global energy markets will play a key role in attenuating any response to a man made climate change. joining me from jetta in global energy superpower, saudi arabia is before my senior advisor, decided these ministry of petroleum and former chief sadie, negotiate with you and framework conventional and climate change. dr. muhammed, also by a thank you so much. dr. alto bonds are coming on the show before we even get to the global impact economically of the catastrophic events in the region. your take on the slots are in gaza from war planes to buy the united states. going to be in union countries and britain. unfortunately, uh there was,

is practicing that sound. uh they, they were saying when lets us normalize relationship with visit i and we are, you are in one or asian and as i should have, i do, or the solution of to a space. but then with the i trust i see that is happening in god's that we see that they are fully supporting, is that i and they are bringing ships. and so again, it's a 2000 and started to come in. and they as a way out on this side of it, i, and this is not only the united states, but uh, or listed in categories. and this not surprising. they have the support thing, is it a for a long time? and they add on the giving lip service as to where they are leaders when they meet with them that way. yeah, we can support the united nation and that to go back to an idea of success and

bought a data with the jeff, easier way for them to be at the cap at the end of the site. but they never when, when we come to achieve our implement such a understanding, they start to move to the uh, the central committees, including the 4 categories. the committee is a committee that to them what they are doing and nothing. basically because there was a do not assist in particular, they don't want to off on this issue. so we see, sorry for what's happened in that last tuesday when we started the hospice and being bombard, i'm more than 500 fixed. as a result, it from that the bottom and i'm we so the next day when president buyer

then visited is that i it said one, it says not vision, highly team or this is the as a team, as if we had been a football game. and the tv means how much, how much on those days today at all gets to the settlement outside of the guys. uh, how come it is. nobody can believes that. so it should is it shows the blind side this with uh, is that i why the hood that is so with the whole award with the city and we have see the immunization here on there. it was. and, and data born and then what's the name on the, on woods, they sell a cnn because they are seeing the process, the, the, i see the genocide that is being before and the area. and that is not acceptable to any wise man or woman in door because israel

denies all sorts of things as regards what's happening in gaza. but uh, did it surprise even you, i mean did, when you were advising this out of the government. did anything like this happened? the king of daughter of jordan would cancel the meeting with an american president who flies in the, you know, the u. s. president flew in the 2nd intifada, but the idea that the a leader of egypt would not meet with the us president the obviously the palestinian authority is one of the bus, the beleaguered lead to the didn't. but uh they did surprise as use that the jordan one did nothing to do with biting, nor did egypt was enough to fly associated meeting kind of said, because what, what do they need to meet with for everything is clear storms, the vision storm with the killing himself, with the uh,

the fires and the guys that i try to withdraw from the guys that it's as simple as that. but with the process he is right that they don't want it. they want to continue this war because it's war. so why we have, i mean, so, as i said ma'am, with our best lives, to, uh, the, uh, westbank. and he had the, uh, the meeting with the government and then uh, uh, can go john bill. uh, cast the meeting according to the closest ation with the egyptian. uh president a cc. i'm and anybody else was going it was going to act in the meeting. i don't see any reason for that meeting. and i think a day of the solution is very clear on that they won't the meeting but been been i search in the security counsellor last year's

a last tuesday. they have the day before last tuesday they saw a block the decision to install. i have see is 5. so what kind of this discussion consultation that should go on on this issue? yeah, in fact, as the americans use the dead women and children from the christian hospital in gaza as an excuse as to why the meeting didn't to go to plan. and that somehow the morning period amongst muslims meant the bite and couldn't meet with the account of thoughts. but of course um, i mean you're saying you wouldn't surprise the suez canal is in egypt as mean hosting the buyer clearly wouldn't have done the same. i mean, did, does this have implications that much more profound? they've been a gyptian leader, would refuse to meet with the united states leader?

no, we all support what this decision being taken by easier by uh, can you just on jonathan? definitely in the substance situation. any wise man, any wisely, that would never go to such a meeting to discuss the very obvious solution to the problem and they know what they need to do. okay, well sorry, you're not saying it as i make implication then for this who is canal dray. but ne donation media are claiming and have been claiming this out of the recognition of israel is still on the table normalization this, this phrase that to the use of, i mean, did you believe the reports that were also relate to that? and b, s kept blinking waging when he buzzed around this region, desperately trying to presume we seek support for this and yahoo! it is not the only support he was coming through so that abs 20 via

the normalization excellence. and there is, there was supposed to be congress and the legation coming through so that he meant to do the same. but so the position is very clear from day one that we have another initiative on the table for many, many years. and we need to revise that and make it, it is a very clear. and this is also the method nation decision that we need to have a 2 state solution. when uh for the, for the city is on the 1967 bought a bare with each other with them as capitan and also retaining dalton, georgia, and i, and my data shop i live in, in on the jewish state. if this is not happening, we would never accept any normally zation. at least this is my understanding. on

the last tuesday, the 1000 of ministers are so that india and he stated this position. and they said that be a, uh, a very sad about the what the, the huge number of casualties and guys that i, uh, the only solution is to have to stay with the 0 to us. and then it's got everything okay. or i will have an assigned is only that is the united states position, despite the fact may be deceased by, as you know of can i say that if that didn't surprise you, the fact that that or bleed is a refusing to meet with president biden? nothing like this has ever happened. the foreign minister of a ron, flying in for the extraordinary meeting of the is that a conference in a way us meetings me from? i mean, what did you make is that, i mean, that, that never happened when you were advising this. how do you government?

first of all, what i, what sort of alarm do you think of that goal is in the nature of nation countries? and what do you make of why he flew in, in the, in the middle of the night? when that show is that's a stomach entities are very serious. they are not happy with the website is happening in gaza. and if it continues that will initiate not on the, the out of countries, but the same company is malaysia, said that it on many other countries that based on our next steps and they cannot access to continue. this is a big strategy. hey, when you see choose it, and i love that as i'm killing and be can. i'm the, could i any any? what is the human emotion is what is the and feeling of human? this is jennifer, i think would be

a slam if that confidence the organization which makes the on last wednesday. i think that basically i am decisions that this shouldn't stop on or otherwise. it wouldn't be expedited into a huge and then it's not an international war between instead i and as of the summit and out of board, i don't know if it's the american aircraft carrier is causing the interference. but that seems to be a bit of freezing. there for in the link from that jet it to you by. i have to say the thing is that when a russian speak is we're being shelled 14000 dead and don't pass rusher came to the rescue as it will all be to critics of pigeons. a came to late when this is happening and gaza, as you said, these woods, whichever echoing little around the, is that make world as well as we are, will. that's about it isn't it's notion of, uh sure, a lot of support. no, no i,

what i mean was russia went and acted some say, belatedly to save the people have done best. the arab world is not going in to save the people of god as they, when is it says continue is that is continues that can also see on the coming on sending a gods out and ask the guys that people to go to migrate to easiest or to jonathan, or should i make war include the god of war? when, when say, you know, and they will go into a fight, they, in order to at least stop the aggravation of is that it is that your lives are nothing without the united states. when they saw that the united states is on their side, they started to show that they are, they can do what they want. this is not a sense. i'm gonna have to be accepted by the whole out of world. and this,

let me go talk to mom and else i'll stop you. there. more from the former senior advisor decided you raise minister petroleum up to this frank, the the, [000:00:00;00]

the, the welcome back to going underground. that's usually with former senior advisors is how do you rate these minister petroleum, dr. muhammed us about no trusts about in part one. you are talking that about the fact that will be some kind of response. but of course, if there isn't any, got a military response to save the people of guys that from the are will, the islamic world biden has his aircraft carriers, the gerald, the ford, and the eyes, and how the masses, multi 1000000000 dollar pieces of weaponry as the people of guys of stuff and die.

well for him, i suppose oil is one weapon, which, bizarrely, if a they reduce production which they have announced, continuations of reductions and production. it also helps the environment. do you expect to hope ag plus to dramatically, with use production to the sort i answer this question, what did what happen with the military? as far as is being different from the united states to your claim? yeah, it did nothing and does not change that as a. so i don't to be a sort of price. that's why we kind of stop the american aggregation medicaid. they know that they cannot fight against this, allow me cool. and they know that this is the edison, they want to 5 to risk you with those and guys. so it is nonsense that took the day, escaped us with the a be a with the or board of ships. um, uh,

some uh, some military forces. they have different funds, they have the strategies, but i'm, they, i pressure on funds and they cannot. so i issue where i think that actually i will not stay silent is and then i says start to do anything. and there is a to coming, coming to you with a question. i know we will not be hasty to review as part of the deal is i want to or in production i list the, the, the problem that i'm and is a list the is that i is not listening to the voice of wisdom. and then we will have to nothing but to use our oriend for election in order to embed it as a whole war that this is something serious that's being taken by the or in producers and doing a of course,

bizarrely that will help the united states economy in terms of oil exports because the price of oil will rise. yeah. how wide spread would you say your opinions are as regards what's happening then in, in guys of the similar to it? because, you know, over the years we've seen how the children and grandchildren of people and it's a young young countries in the gc, educate that children the leads in west and universities. i know you were educated in the, in the united states, but i widely is this understood this little during closet as the way you're talking about it i, you don't get the impression that there's a loss of faith and solidarity in the palestinian people in recent years in gcc countries, you know, i, they, the main problem is that this is not a whole in print using countries issue. it is and

a slamming issue. and when, as far as the point of sending an issue is uh, interesting but is issue. i knew how see it, immunization is not limited to this. let me call him, but his strength and the okay and size in germany, even though those cancelled as well. i'll say that we, i, democratic society and allow, as the citizen based try to stop these, this immunizations. this is ridiculous. that's one of the limit assigned that, that there was to is have a, this is at the end of a, a slow, the creating a problem. when we saw it without the out of giving you create isn't a thing they want in order better to list it, like instead of 5, i'm like and when it comes to the sign as they is. and they had to do the migration of aggressive though. so, and they, and we are,

and that's what it's about our children who are listening and their words taking advantage of cation, they can go anywhere and down, by the way, uh, the used to see is going to the ace we already established. but the relationship with china with the relationship when i side with the relationship with india, i'm, this is an app, repetitive to daniel international and all that which at the west wouldn't be among the days that a buying that a power of annual was. so if this has not been recognized by there was, it would be too late later on the night because they wouldn't have no power to show now. but at least security counseling isn't data they deal with in front of they will on the different on the i m. s, the one about assessing the draft to say and by then

ads is not the democracy that as they are reflecting hit on that. so they need to stop that. they need to know that the or that has this one to many part of that they need to achieve santibanez between the different policies in order to achieve stabilization, i avoid any in the nation anymore. yes. as regards freedom of expression, obviously frances band, palestinian demonstrations. talk in britain of a binding, the palestinian flag. and this on top of what's happening to julian, that's ons, but i have to say is your age and many to it's nadia range. you're prepared for the on slow, it's also called main stream corporate propaganda media renae donations as they attack saudi arabia and gcc countries. already headlines will start to appear about

the human rights records of jesus e countries as a weapon against your country, for a not bowing down to washington, you prepared for that this, this weapon, if it is the so it is useless, we get used to it. and this is not working, we, because we have our to do this, you know, you seem and we were, you know what we are doing. i mean, we didn't pay any attention to assessing criticism. please. i asked, there was to criticize them send before they can to criticize other countries including mine. so we have not flooded. i know they're trying to be awarded and this message has been delivered by our crown prince. how about this? and very clearly, especially when the president biden came through saturday via asking to increase or in production, asking to buy and then i saw from uh oh, okay, plus congregation. and we said we turned in no,

no way. so now and the balance power was an you'll economic, i mean, international, automatic, they cannot, we cannot accept auditors or any criticism from any country because we know we are doing that. i think and we have our agency is that when people take the an individuals a well comp to many ages happening in the u. a soon do you think uh, given your role in uh, climate change dynamics and geo politics in for the saudi arabian kingdom. do you think the joe biden blinking the jake sullivan, newland care about the environment, given what happened to the north stream pipeline given as you just said, that they desperately wanted the increases in the oil production to lower the price

of gas, whilst at the same time and that's petroleum, but is it, while of the same time wanting to massively increase l. n g from fracture gas in texas to western europe. when this is another case of the sun visited by then is giving permissions to different orange companies and different gas companies to increase production. and of the same time, the us, the other countries and the other international companies are investing internationally to stop because of the environment. okay, believe that a, this situation started to uncover easily a u. k. if you out from the u. k, they allowing no c a producer to continue exploding and producing or 11 gas in the notes to see them. but any other,

none of them are allowed at that. do you think it's all in line when they talk about the environment? they don't care about this problem in this village that there was that meeting last week of the, uh, oil companies in london. and to get it up on the other end. but i don't even been the edges they weigh together. uh, besides the inter continental with a lender and they would have shelby sub oh it is. so this is like a more that what do you use? uh when i get it, uh, if you know, had a young young den on there, she left to have had a temporary, had a score in order that there was a link that says the environment. i'm the only places that anything on the c or to why the convention a g, a u. n, a c c convention,

talking about all greenhouse gases in the order 6 this. and they are also said that was supposed to very few should be equal among other countries, even though the higher the convention say in the that there is a common but differentiated us about so really the sort of a so apply this for this event and based on invest that they are the responsibility in this that i can produce. people know that the environment for a long time, and they not only deal with various sources, but also saying so they are telling me that on convention and the whole agreement into an all in agreement. why is there a subsidizing core? and then just set eyes categories, they are within the heavy taxes or the or and when they talk about kind of one test,

basically they're so big guys are they simply designate that. so these are still them in the center. so i, i don't think it does being discover many delegations, many countries the same, the same that still a pharmacy system. what you are doing, you are doing good wrong to the environment and asking if one of these countries to bed the better than this is nonsense. i'm glad that i shan't funny. yeah, i'll do so the other dentist has to pay financially to therefore the countries in order to produce more than your words. so i just can i just adjust very briefly though. ask you about the some bugger cause went to do you have and then mentioned notes are just very, very briefly the danger of a nuclear threat from israel given as you say, the unity against israel level what's happening and gaza. they haven't usually when you,

when they use it is that i would use the nuclear power. have it be available. the old nurse a condemned to visit. i is for the for a position and they're having a new, clear problem. and the my nice, i'm the making a lot of hectic and show the again, is any can city who is going to have near clear to even meet the san for new york letter energy including the so i'm not defending here on but the i'm saying you that this is another, the devil to send that, why and why you are allowing is that i to on new, clear to power. why leo prevent others from doing this? when they say, when is that i is right? what is the wisdom we see now nowadays? and gods that there is no wisdom adore it. they said they were,

we would continue to them. but of them is that the way guys out from or a citizen and as a citizen. so this is never said that had to so this is nonsense sort of to say that, okay, obviously as rail denies the nuclear weapons expos by motor kind of, you know, dr. mom and alice about a oh no document else. right. and i do thank you. that's it for the show, and the condolences from the whole team here i'm going underground. but those bree by the ongoing violence in the middle east, will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch by the social media. if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going on, grantee on rumble, they'll come to what you handle that sense of going underground. saturday, the, the,

the, the is really for us to is reportedly head of refugee camp. and the north of does the killing at least 30 people overnight. disturbing images from gaza as names are written on the legs of childrens, identify them in case they're killed. as the death toll there arises to over 4600 is where, like amenities, brambles for ruins, to identify bodies, and find out what happened. and the 1st and last attacks, shocking findings that we cannot verify our head. we saw she was a pregnant lady. she was push it open to stomach was butcher dorothy there was