ground invasion of cause that's from the set of what the us did. 2 decades ago. we heard from journalist and political analyst rubber and like how she would criticize the is rarely presidents allegations. anyone with a 2 brain cells active brain cells can ask themselves the question, why would it have mass fights are given that they don't have chemical weapons and there's no evidence they have chemical weapons. why would he be carrying a manual telling him how to make chemical weapons in the middle of and a military operation, crossing over into his early settlements and military sites with it just, it just does not add up. it's a way in order to try and justify what they're doing and distract from what they're doing because as well as being it's bombing campaign. we have over a 1000000 people are who are left homeless in the gaza strip as a result of israel bombarding civilian infrastructure. israel is not allowing a to go into the gaza strip. if israel wants to create a cover for its ground invasion,

the cover is just going to be massacring the goals and civilian population and bringing down more infrastructure, which it needs to continuously produce more lies in order to distract the western public. and that's what this is part of attempting to distract the western public at this point. and that's why you will hear all the ridiculous rhetoric from their side and, and claims which quite frankly, are to be considered as legitimate as claims that the earth is flat. at this point, but they're going to put them out there. and israel at this point has proven that it's not even in brave enough to go in on the ground in the gaza strip and is attempting to rope in the united states. and the united states obviously is backing what israel's doing, which is an attack on civilians. so that's what this is about for up to the minute updates on the war in the middle east, head over to r t dot com. we've got you covered there with headlines from around the world as well. please stay with us. we'll be back in less than 30 minutes now was much more

news in the meantime. of next on cross talks, peter levelland, his guest, discussed israel's plans to arrange palestine by the the, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the ground stuff where all things are considered. i'm futile about defense minister go on,

says israel will wash its hands of gaza once it is completed, its ground, military operation, and bank, which time us divide ministration is given israel to the green light to conduct its military operation as it pleases the goal. of course is to completely erase palestine and its people from the map the a to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j america. she's an award winning journalist and commentator. and in budapest we cross the george 70 wiley. he is a pod cast, read the gamble, which can be found on youtube and locals. right, gentlemen, cross up rules and effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. but it's going to george in budapest, um we have the commander in chief, the president's united states, joe biden, given address from the oval office, like none other in the history of the american presidency. he was deranged. it was

a special pleading. it was full of the bearers assumptions, prejudices of, i've given enough agitators, george, what's your thoughts? probably like a be more accurate. they observed, i can't think of a world of them. it was absolutely disgraceful speech and filled with hatred and completely one sided uh, bridget, as bigoted view of uh, what's going on in the middle east. and it's all of a piece with everything that he has done since. um october, the 7th, which is that he hasn't stopped yapping about what happened to his room. he hasn't said anything, it's all about what's been going on in gauze. he hasn't said anything about the siege of guys he ever said anything about the, the mass, a slaughter taking basing gaza. so he, he managed very quickly to say, oh basically it wasn't responsible for the attack on the hospital. he got got back

in the right on time and, and then much of the speech didn't even have anything to do with the middle east, which was supposed to this this or if it got back on the joyce people, which itself is of course a lot of but it was all about your brain about an hour, you know, and other terrible things that have been done through your brain and highway. and so it's so absolutely urgent that we do something for you kind of close it as well . absolutely dishonest because if he really wants to come up with money for israel or come up with money that you bring, he has it is the he doesn't the congress, he has emergency funds at his disposal. you can always the newest president of what was done. that's george w bush did that. he doesn't need congressional appropriation. so this is all, again, a political theater to present somehow that the horrible mean republicans, you know, on the on board was these great, the noble goals that the, the bite and the has in mind. you know, you know, mark,

now 3 of us can remember all of the camp david, the meetings with arrow to the home. you know, all these really leaders the now to multiple administrations. but this administration they, they're per site and nothing brother, name, error, muslim world, right? now, i mean, the, the president biden was snubbed, which is very rare. okay. it was what's quoted what nominal allies. ok. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. and it's george said, you know, as much as he wanted to emphasize this really was looking for money for ukraine. and i agree with george here, but he wants congress to be comfortable in all of these things. it's me because he wants to make sure that no one is absolved. you know, good, you'll be, you're past it, you voted for your be your be about matching my politics. this is what it, this is what this is all about. okay? and it's, it's interesting home didn't, you know, who did exactly the same thing with multiple western leaders. ok. so everybody,

no one can say, you know, that you weren't heard. martin. i think a little bit, it's about his legacy as well. you know, he's obviously thinking about every election. i mean, i see sleepy general any more. i don't know. go ahead. well, i said the phone, your program i written might also codes, but i do wonder how he'll make it to the next re election. but the end of 2024 with this is mental states deteriorating all the time. he gave a speech just recently and i don't way where he just spoke to the person, actually called his microphone and actually watched it up. you know, that's how bad it is when, when joe stokes daybreak and he's got people who jump in very quickly and dropped the levels on the makes the case as they started playing jazz music. okay. so betsy's q 2 gigs. right? yeah. let's not talk about trust music and bible and blinking playing the blues. i'm in a, it's, there's a really awful mims going around on the internet of the opening can playing the

some, some police music and somebody's interested in all these opponents. you know, um, seems that goes a bunch of good as long as you like to. unfortunately it's, it's, we're living in unprecedented times. we've never seen anything any say like, what's going on now and goes and you talk about job i the speech i have to apologize to page. i didn't see it. i didn't worship read this must me. but you know, the book is very, very confused on policy. has never been this thing and he's just messing up on a glorious level. i mean, there must be people in the white house that are running around, you know, in a panic because we built a situation now where you have this, the real story for me and goes a, is this day today, the negotiation. this almost tragic between the, by the ministration of miss neil, who, who is the dog and who is the town who is actually running this entire operation. you know, we, we have completely whitewashed and brushed out the entire subject of 50 is what the

patient that doesn't exist. that's not popping up on any of the photos. that's not, that's not even possibly narrative. you know, it's, it's margaret, it's worse. that's a, it's come us talking point, that's what it gets down to, you know, charged. you know, i've talked about this a lot. i mean, when we look at the situation in ukraine, we look at the situation. but guys, in israel, these are all craving choices. these are choices people make. okay. and you know, we've had to meaningful attempts at britain having some kind of peace process in ukraine. detailed by the west, by the americans. we, we haven't even heard from this white house. you know, we're strange negotiations. we haven't even heard those words and then you have the european union running around like it's, it's like a chicken with, it's getting cut off. ok. you know, in support of israel, i mean, why it's never really explained. these are craving choices. george? exactly right. they are, and i think the biden is who he has always been. i me,

yes, he's them, old dominion said a big a now and is obviously is the suffering severely from dementia. but he has always been a neo con. i mean, right from the style of history, you know, 19 seventy's and eighty's. he has always been an avid intervention is an avid spokesman on behalf of the us phone policy making your lead. and, and he is, this is what he's about, you know, big game back in the ninety's. he was the most rabid, good advocate for bombing the subs. and so it isn't surprising that in his approach the lease, he kind of it focused on where, you know, where, where is the, the foreign policy media and military industrial complex position. this is it, any, any sites i'm not going to even make the slight this pretense as previous presidents have done all being even handed is right away,

just so incomplete. the identify themselves with israel and the n, as i said, she hasn't stopped working. the other one thing which was the attack on october, the 7th, nothing. it's all about anything that's happened since then. and again, it is blinking, it goes through is wireless. as i come here as a jude. i mean, if you scroll just above for a secretary of state, again, normally the united states as bill, supposedly the phone is broke up the mediator and i suppose he doesn't do it now on the question of ukraine. it's a game he is this you this policy very single mindedly, which is the side without any and all attempts to come to some sort of a settlement. so it's just been an interview. bob, based with former chancellor gerhard schroeder was as a he too had been involved in the early days of mediating something between ross and you're right. he to, and he's explicit about, it was rebuffed by the united states. that's who he is, and nothing is that he has said since october,

the 7th would indicate any american interest in any of them for some sort of a human what. what makes this really sensical and even really dangerous. martin is that, you know, when you look at the correlation of forces around israel, this is about 20 years ago, 25 years ago. we have um hezbollah, which is a very potent political for in political and military boards. and um, instead of, you know, taking the, taking a step from the away from the abyss is they're actually encouraged at naming to the point. where do you think the biochemistry, she really wants a, a total out because they want total victory. so you're gonna have to make a total commitment, go ahead marble. and that's where the best, where the dilemma risk to apply to. and he wants to see and wants to support as well as much that kind of mentioned y'all who doesn't know his dream. but he hasn't got the goals, he hasn't got the class really hasn't got the the of the money in the bank to go the whole 9 yards, which is why i think it was

a huge mistake to send the site before 5 destroy is the top of the coast is a i know i can understand the logic behind that he was showing support to these really to say i'm the, if you need me. but you can't do the was just a token. because when you do that to hezbollah and the rainy, and joe, you're really playing russian roulette. you know, with not one glitch in the 6 round china, but 3 bullets. you know, you're spending the bow and, you know, who knows what will come out of it. the real worry for me is by them is out of his depths. doesn't really understand the implications of jordan has split way around, inter regional war. these rallies, know they comp site, a war on 2 fronts. it's just too big. it's took stream and the americans would never ever support and with such a venture. so what do we got left with? got a lot of the paper tigers in the room pretending to, to be powerful conflicts and the muscles. but at the end of it is just a narrative and lies. i'm an installation. what next meal? how much do it is he's squeezing by to? he's going by the throat and he's saying, look, i can easily exterminate only

a 1000 gossip people tomorrow. they can drop dead like flyers, how you're going to handle that politically in your country with the press. you know, he's got him that type. and that's what this whole 2 monetary of so called project is a little about letting 20 trunk same 20 trucks. the extending your argument in, i'm a brand name, this program, a re racing palestine because that's what it's all about. okay. and now for you, there may not be another opportunity to come in and they, you know, get, you know, every time there's a crisis, it's turned into an opportunity for these people here. and that's what, that's what i'm netanyahu's government wants they want. they want to be, they want to be able to, to minute atrocity and get away with that george, like mike, good ideas of what i think so, but i think it's a doomed venture to erase. and i mean these are, let's try that before. uh with not any great success. i mean is problem

is that, you know, yeah, we're gonna raise bias, i'm going to invest, we're going to do that, and the other bed you have to have to do it. you have to go in there and do the job . and israel as shown itself in the boss to be on willing to do that and that job because it was an apple sustained, enormous casualty, is it so, and he doesn't want to do it. you know, we have to talk about, you know, tens of thousands of, uh, that is rated and is rarely shown that it's not willing to do it. so, at the moment, i mean, it's all lost. i mean, you know, weeks go by and i haven't done anything you're aware of what we're about to go in and we're about to go and maybe they will. but from everything that we know of israel in the past, they don't actually like the getting the hand to hand come back by can polarize, they can style, they can deny medical treatment and so on. and you know, and frankly, but they don't like sending in their infantry a drug bit chance. likely have to have a hard break here. and after that hard break,

we'll talk about the possibility of israel's land war against scouts est with are to the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power type vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the a welcome act across software,

all things are considered computer little. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real minutes the to go back tomorrow. let's talk about the possibility of a land war here. over the last few days, pep talks from the defense minister going to go on to the troops. you know, next you can see guns over there soon. you will see you guys have room with in with him the all the, some, you know, psych ops you know, for the, for the media and all of that. but realistically, i think it's weeks is george, as already mentioned in the 1st part of the brother, it's very, very problematic. but the problem is, is it, mark me, the israel's calling card in the region is been deterrence. now that deterrence was undermined on october 7 in a major way. and it's only deterrence in fear that keeps is real safe within

what, what it doesn't even define its borders. but when, when to be, when it calls itself the state of israel. but it needs to get that deterrence back or else some there is a world of bad things are going to happen here one way or another martin? yeah. the name, but the thing is the possibility of deterioration or a complete collapse of israel, as we know it's i don't think that's mix up duration. i think that's what the stakes. all i mean, i'm an engineer who knows that seats is go, some of the political pressure on him to pull a rabbit of the mothers is running these play to filter with the 7th. but i don't think most is really is up behind him with this idea of a new on slow the new campaign on the got the was 11 to 70 is i come, which is around a lot. and i can tell you one of the list or best kept secrets the middle east, is how pull these really is when we talk about infantry. because are the tank single grades, sophisticated weapons that go to the force of infantry and put treatment on the

ground. boots on the go is what is known as all that good when they and when that was proved, when they took on his beloved 2006, that was the i reported on that, you know, and that's the big worry from this. and you can send and type divisions in to gauze . some of these times we blown up some might be catch it. you know, when the real fights, if it's going to take on has, has blood. so i'm just going to take on. so it how much in the end goes it will be on the ground, it will be soldiers. and how many, what's the most, the magic figure out? how many can be a full 2 times, and how many can you know afford to lose? i would say 100, so i wouldn't go with judges figurative thousands. i would say when it gets to 56700 idea of soldiers slow to me. it's good they, they but the dilemma it takes kidney afford not to go in. and george, you know, that it can able to go in what it is. he has options. i mean, he can basically he can turn to buy them and, and off bite. and really,

well, why don't you tell me not to do this once it's only pay you bought it? i'll do is you buy it, we don't, we don't want a, a, a blood by some, right? well if you say so i'm not going to do it. so that's a way to get out of it just as well. i couldn't do anything because the americans, you know, stayed my hand and, and i, we gone for the full i have with the americans. so that is a way that he can get out of this. so, i mean, i mean i, i don't disagree with the mother and he made it may be hundreds. i mean, it may, may be thousands, but the fact is that is the way it has lost hundreds in the past. and bullying was and you know that and they bench to overcome them because victory. it's a is, was a successful at the end of the road. i don't they last about a 1000 people in the ninety's 67 war. but nonetheless, they continued in a breaking out of a champagne for years subsequently. um, but in this case it's small to see what this victory would look like, a little bit to destroy it. how about so, i mean, how much is, you know, it's all about it and then not just going to go in and the big, the mouth house, the house that is a very,

very messy operation. not just house the house that have to go to the tunnels and everything that's going to be an easy task, you know, going through all the channels. so, you know, you know, they just like they lose even, you know, several 100 ext uh, several 1000 without any successful outcome of the and well then that will have been a failure. so then the question is, you know what, how far with israel go and that's an interesting question. how far is israel willing to escalate? is a willing to use nuclear weapons and what else you say that? no, no, no, of course not. i don't know is that you can say the same thing about is what it oh, i think it's very much on the table here because the stakes are so high because martin, we've just heard over the last what 2 weeks is that, you know, we don't negotiate with terrorists, the is really government doesn't want the big o'shea with a mouse over hostages guitar is doing the odd, you know, other i n g o's and whatnot. l o. and then you do in reverse and decide we're going

to leave a standing after everything that's been said in the words matter, words matter a lot. and he, you can, um, you know, if words were bells, who kept and brings up. okay. and this is the dilemma again, i keep stressing this is, these are all been choices and no reality is sitting in here and, and again, like i said, martin is a, it's deterrence. they've lost that. go ahead. oh yeah, they listen to turn some i think if, if, if much time policy is nothing you know, who will lose the credibility of being this great will top is great. need to choose me. i think he's already told studying that the whatever resolution there is, he's out the door. i would i to be as a plane on the tarmac, the old up go ahead to get to go back to george's point. the um, i think is right. i said, i think the time the so now in the most luxury center is that he doesn't launch

a huge ground offensive. he doesn't need to be what i believe very strongly and i've been lost it on the internet for sadness. i think they're looking at a policy of repeating the holocaust. i think they want to stop hundreds and thousands of dollars. and so, you know, they don't need to send the soldiers in, but how much, you know, the, the effect that i would have on, on, unless it would be possibly my break the will of a lot of young man or, you know, with that, that's the way these ways of thinking and if button is not strong, spine is not so you know, we, we will see a west, a complacent west. that is some lives to, to these are realities that are looking at and they will just close the rise and pretend that isn't really happening on both sides. we'll be talking americans, these raise. we talking about a political conundrum. you know, we, which is still my, we called quite decide what to do. but in the meantime, another 100000 people just dropped dead light flights. you know, i think that's possibly the main thing is that an engineer who is, is the gentleman, if there isn't a land in encouraging

a landing page. and then what martin is just said, there is the policy is. and if, and from what i can tell, i obviously do not watch cnn, but i, i've been told in the last few hours that they do all of their reporting from comfortable places and tell them even jerusalem. so they don't any images, any images of gaza at all. okay, i just talked to people on board the unfortunate people that have their loved ones . you've got to be in and the gaza strip, but that's about it. so my point, george is the reinforce. what we've just been said here is just go report on it just as the population is cold. it's a cali george. well, yes, it is a thing that i'm going to see just guys a will continue with is obviously the objective in mind, or just simply getting office population. but even of cnn, those are a boat. and even if the west in the public won't know very much about it,

the people in the middle east will know about the janet again, it will have is, or it will have different. so this avoiding a wide scale wor, um, because the people, you know, his father will know about this. i will know that you are basically just starving a population of death. and that would still is, or it will still have that problem on the times, which is that has, but i will get in, i mean, they'll be able to somewhat meet and start tomorrow. and i think that's an excellent point here. so if we, if we set a, we agree that the land invasion is just type in the, in, in, in lieu of another policy. but basically, the ethnic cleansing, do you think hezbollah would stand by and, and watch because they the to the theory of the case right now is that israel is hesitant to have a line invasion because it will, will be, it will see as blog intro, the of the conflict on the side of the palestinians, but even if the policy is just are being the mouth calling you thing cause blog

would intervene even under those circumstances. at some point. yeah, i mean, it has blah and the wrong just in a country to what ms. west novelist might like to see it has been running around, playing very, very cool call keeping very cool edge. and watching the day to day um, situation development, i think if we get stuck point when we're looking at what is clear, that is the policy then i think you'll see at least a certain amount of destruction. destructive attacks from has been the scuffles across buddha exchanges that govern heights exchange about to read that will be the end of the glitch. and then they'll see how is real in a place that the big worry here, the religious, but you know, a little while right now, but this is going to escalate originally. and i wonder if that's now who was thinking of to know them both a and another war with a, with his blood as a, as a account to wage to what he's not doing and done so, you know,

he might think they're all great victories to the americans, now the hezbollah has approximately a 100000 rockets, which are quite sophisticated programs as we speak, targeted to cumulative installations, power stations for government buildings, you know, and there's no way that they're gonna, america is going to allow that to happen. but the worry is miscalculation and the worry is that we aren't being treated by nets now. who in a certain point he will create a false flag attack between hezbollah and those american ships. and that's my worry . that's what i think the, you know, it's excellent. and our suspicion, george, why is the united states supporting israel the way it does mean? what is the strategic interest security interest? this is what the photos me is confuse me all my life. one question. yeah, yeah, no i, i don't know what's answerable. i'm putting george on the spot as i easily do, but he does. it usually comes back with a good one. go ahead. george. yeah,

i don't know if i can come up with a good one because i don't think it's a very good on simple. this is never, has israel done anything at all for the united states though to strengthen the united states as position of the united states as formulated its foreign policy. and what was the beginning from this to the time that the state of israel was created, which was solving the refugee problem adhering to resolution to, for, to withdrawal from the occupied territories. no set the lens of and eventually a 2 state solution. all of these positions of the, of the american government has of head to this royal, this just basically defied the united states. we also know about all these things like the of the back on the us as liberty, which was never explain, you know, the family, you know, go on and on. israel has never done anything. it's all like nights of states. but yet the united states is continually showering gifts on israel and also getting nothing in between them. and the, you know,

it's really interesting. tell me at the end of this point here, but going back to bite and speech a piece of uh, absolutely to, to the, to the hilt supporting 2 s no fanatical regimes, one in israel, in one in ukraine. where are those rules based? ordered the rules, base order. gentleman, i don't know for a gentleman that's all the time we have one to think, my guessing, marrakech and in budapest and want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time, remember about stifles the who. what else shows just don't you have to say power and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves will

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